Population: Economic strength or weakness

[Iroh]

I particularly don’t agree that underdevelopment in certain countries are caused by overpopulation although overpopulation seems to be a common factor in underdeveloped and developing countries.
While bad governance from the government would always top the list on reasons on why those countries remain underdeveloped, literacy rate also is a key indicator on why any country would remain underdeveloped and overpopulated.

In a lot of places where there is little or no government intervention, unemployed people who go idle all day tend to mostly find the time to procreate with no little thought of the aftermath. Babies would be born into poverty and the cycle continues further increasing the gap between the wealthy and the poor.
Overpopulation could be a blessing to a nation as well as a major problem. It falls down to the government and also the people on how best to make use of the potential in Human Resources.

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[Unbunplease]

I particularly don’t agree that underdevelopment in certain countries are caused by overpopulation although overpopulation seems to be a common factor in underdeveloped and developing countries.
While bad governance from the government would always top the list on reasons on why those countries remain underdeveloped, literacy rate also is a key indicator on why any country would remain underdeveloped and overpopulated.

In a lot of places where there is little or no government intervention, unemployed people who go idle all day tend to mostly find the time to procreate with no little thought of the aftermath. Babies would be born into poverty and the cycle continues further increasing the gap between the wealthy and the poor.
Overpopulation could be a blessing to a nation as well as a major problem. It falls down to the government and also the people on how best to make use of the potential in Human Resources.

 Peasants usually have many children - someone has to work in the fields. But today's children don't want to work in the fields, they want to go to the city. There are not so many jobs in the city, and entrepreneurs like to use cheap migrants. So there is a situation where a large population is a big problem. There are jobs, but few indigenous people want to work in hard jobs, and the easy jobs quickly run out

[serjent05]

I particularly don’t agree that underdevelopment in certain countries are caused by overpopulation although overpopulation seems to be a common factor in underdeveloped and developing countries.
While bad governance from the government would always top the list on reasons on why those countries remain underdeveloped, literacy rate also is a key indicator on why any country would remain underdeveloped and overpopulated.

In a lot of places where there is little or no government intervention, unemployed people who go idle all day tend to mostly find the time to procreate with no little thought of the aftermath. Babies would be born into poverty and the cycle continues further increasing the gap between the wealthy and the poor.
Overpopulation could be a blessing to a nation as well as a major problem. It falls down to the government and also the people on how best to make use of the potential in Human Resources.

 Peasants usually have many children - someone has to work in the fields. But today's children don't want to work in the fields, they want to go to the city. There are not so many jobs in the city, and entrepreneurs like to use cheap migrants. So there is a situation where a large population is a big problem. There are jobs, but few indigenous people want to work in hard jobs, and the easy jobs quickly run out

Big population is only a problem if the government can't fulfill its duty to provide good paying jobs for their citizen.  But if the government is able to utilize its resources properly and able to provide jobs to his people, thei huge population can be an asset to the government.  Imaging if all its citizen has jobs and they are able to get taxes from their salaries, it will be a huge source of funds for the government.

Whether a population is a strenth or weakness depends on the government and how it utilize its resources to make these huge population an asset.

[komisariatku]

Peasants usually have many children - someone has to work in the fields. But today's children don't want to work in the fields, they want to go to the city. There are not so many jobs in the city, and entrepreneurs like to use cheap migrants. So there is a situation where a large population is a big problem. There are jobs, but few indigenous people want to work in hard jobs, and the easy jobs quickly run out

Honestly I don't agree with you. From the forecast data, countries with the highest DGP in 2030 are filled by countries with large populations. Large companies will move their business when there is a country with a large population because workers' wages are usually cheaper so they can reduce production costs.


Source: https://power.lowyinstitute.org/data/future-resources/economic-size-2030/gdp-2030/


Source: https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/

Maybe at first a country with a large population experiences poverty problems, but a country with a large population enables the country's economic turnover to be faster, so it is not dependent on world trade. In addition, more investment started going into countries with large populations, creating more jobs.

Why is so much investment going to countries with large populations? because the population is the market, instead of large companies having to ship finished goods, they prefer to move their factories to densely populated countries, where wages are cheaper and their products are in high demand by residents.

[jacafbiz]

Those pushing for reduction in population growth are doing it for their selfish agenda, it is very stupid to consider high population as a threat to economic growth, this is why I pity nations in the west, especially Europe, they have been brainwashed to think this is good, you don't want to give birth to more children, but you keep brining in strangers to your country, and these strangers are very prolific, soon you will become a minority in their own country. The money your government is supposed to be spending on you, they are spending it on strangers, if you have a father that behaves this way, you will call him out but most people just keep quiet. If this trend continues in the next 50 years most of the European countries would have lost their identity, but the like of Asians and Africans population would have increased significantly and will dominate because democracy is a game of number. 

[khiholangkang]

Those pushing for reduction in population growth are doing it for their selfish agenda, it is very stupid to consider high population as a threat to economic growth, this is why I pity nations in the west, especially Europe, they have been brainwashed to think this is good, you don't want to give birth to more children, but you keep brining in strangers to your country, and these strangers are very prolific, soon you will become a minority in their own country. The money your government is supposed to be spending on you, they are spending it on strangers, if you have a father that behaves this way, you will call him out but most people just keep quiet. If this trend continues in the next 50 years most of the European countries would have lost their identity, but the like of Asians and Africans population would have increased significantly and will dominate because democracy is a game of number. 

Of course, if you look at it from your point of view from here, assuming population is a weakness is absolutely wrong. I also noticed that their European countries have few generations of their nation, for example in Japan, which has a low population level. On the other hand, I also think that what will be the future of their nation if they continue to be entered by foreign nationals, which have been built by the nation and then its generations have shrunk and been filled by foreigners, the struggles of their predecessors have become futile and the infrastructure that has been built so far is enjoyed by foreigners.

But too much in printing that generation is the same as making the government overwhelmed in managing and preparing for its future in stabilizing the economy, but in comparison it is better to have a large population than a shortage, because the consumer market will be much higher.

[Dunamisx]

How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?

That is not apparently the solution needed for an economy to flourish and grow, we needed to make use of a capacity development strategy to make opportunities available for everyone to get onboard and involved in all aspects of the economy, this will result into a massive increase on the production level and workforce and there will be decrease in dependency, lack and poverty among the people when they all have activities they do that keeps the busy to earn a living, except for those who chose not to work may not have enough to eat and leave below standard, if the world population is reduced and there's no capacity building to help position the people in other of labour there won't be changes at all.

[flyingcarpet]

We have had different analyses about the implication of population on the economy of a nation. Some economists will argue that the reason for the underdevelopment of most countries is because of overpopulation. Hence they are advised to cut down the population through diverse means like birth control and so on. In other countries, economists are also predicting economic woes because of underpopulation. These nations have been advised to increase the birth rate through diverse means. Some nations are giving citizens diverse welfare packages to increase the number of children they have. Some are encouraging immigration to fill the gaps created by the labor shortages.

A close look at this situation shows that many of these overpopulated nations mostly in Africa and Asia are underdeveloped. While these underpopulated nations are economically buoyant. I think the reason for the poverty of these developing nations is not the population but bad governance and the inability to maximize and distribute available resources equally.  We cannot deny the fact that these overpopulated nations are economically important to these developed nations in terms of human resources. And they contribute immensely to the development of these first-world nations in terms of cheap labour.

How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?

Many problems arise as a result of the excessive enrichment of some segments of the population. Lack of equal distribution or people not getting what they deserve disrupts the general order.

It is difficult to provide for a surplus population. This requires production and the financial power to ensure this production. In the examples you give where these elements are not available, overpopulation makes things even more difficult.

The labor force needed by developed countries has turned towards qualified personnel over time. It is no longer as high as it used to be to look for workers with physical power alone or to receive immigration. So population is a big problem in terms of economic power.

[Vaskiy]

Population is just a factor that could drive the economy of a country towards the progressive path as well as downwards. It all depends upon the person in power. The population being productive is in the hands of the government. The government should engage into development and creating more opportunities. When the government fails, then the young population gets deviated from the track. This is where more crimes takes place and the same population turns to be weakness. Right now China and India stands high on population. Both are at the good position in terms economic strength, however the policies India government hold at the moment to divide and rule can anytime be a threat to the country as well as upliftment of economy.

[Mauser]

How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?

Shrinking populations in developed nations is the main argument for open door immigration policies. Many politicians argue that we need to take in people from all around the world to keep our population constant. Maybe that sounds like a convincing argument for some people, but I don't think it's true. Technological advances, production efficency growth and the development of AI is going to transform the work landscape in the near future and less people will be required. The problem I see is that in developed nations everybody is going to university. A university diploma today is what the high-school diploma was 20 years ago. But there aren't enough jobs for all these highly educated people, which then take on jobs in the service industry. Instead of trying to find the workforce abroad for less skilled jobs, the government could try promote these sectors and offer benefits. There isn't much planning being done on what kind of qualifications people should have for the future. Spending 3-5 years studying in a university only to work in a Callcenter or restaurant seems like a bad investment for the individual and the state that pays the education.

[awik p]

Population is just a factor that could drive the economy of a country towards the progressive path as well as downwards. It all depends upon the person in power. The population being productive is in the hands of the government. The government should engage into development and creating more opportunities. When the government fails, then the young population gets deviated from the track. This is where more crimes takes place and the same population turns to be weakness. Right now China and India stands high on population. Both are at the good position in terms economic strength, however the policies India government hold at the moment to divide and rule can anytime be a threat to the country as well as upliftment of economy.

For example in China, which has the largest population in the world, but they have an economy that counts for the world, there are almost no countries that do not use products from China. it's different in India which also has the largest population after China, from a developing country to finally being able to move to a developed country where the government can take advantage of the advantages of existing human resources, but what needs to be watched out for is the political role that feels like it wants to rule

[Ndabagi01]

How do you think these developed nations will fill vacancies in their nations and get cheap labor if the population of these developing nations is reduced?

They will be unable to fill those voids, thereby impacting their economic performance. Many economists have recognised and acknowledged population over the years for its contribution to increased manpower and productivity in the economy. We also cannot dispute that major countries are constantly looking for ways to hire more unskilled labourers and pay them pennies for their efforts in order to reduce costs.

There is one big factor that can change everything about the theory mentioned above. The reason why you see differences between the nations as per their population and economic growth success or unsuccess lies within the "literacy" rate of that particular nation.

You make an excellent point here, and while I agree with you on this point, I'd like to point out that a country with a high literacy rate but no government intervention to open doors for skilled labour to practise their skill will still have a difficult time controlling its population if literacy is a determinant of population growth.

[Cryptomultiplier]

The population is added strength when they contribute economically to nation building in individual quota. It becomes a weakness if hunger, unemployment, and other vices has become upheld.

With this current technological innovations in crypto, AI, Web3 worldwide, we are already witnesses to a population rise and a generation of android/smartphone babies who live more online and with earning skills online too.

[Smartvirus]

I think it counts for the weakness of an economy. Having the work force with no work to do simply means, an over competition on the available and over exploitation of the available resource. This often becomes the case for over populated nations hence the need for policies to help put population in check. China instilled one and its been working good for them, this was out of a necessity and not as though the economy.

When we look at the essential needs of a human, we talk about food, cloth and shelter. Not technology, not social media and the host of them you could think of. Over population puts stress on all that and makes conditions for living much difficult. That has a negative effect on the economy as it could lead to unlawful acts.

[n0ne]

The population is added strength when they contribute economically to nation building in individual quota. It becomes a weakness if hunger, unemployment, and other vices has become upheld.

With this current technological innovations in crypto, AI, Web3 worldwide, we are already witnesses to a population rise and a generation of android/smartphone babies who live more online and with earning skills online too.

Population is a strength to the country's economy, but the population needs to be the younger generation. The governments participation is much needed in creating jobs and fulfilling the basic needs of the population. When the government isn't able to do the needful automatically people will look for opportunities away from the country and settles down.

The dependence on online is much, however without the manufacturing sector we can't make an economy more stronger. The usage of online services were just to manage things in a better way whereas the manufacturing industry is the economy uplifting framework.

[Sithara007]

For example in China, which has the largest population in the world, but they have an economy that counts for the world, there are almost no countries that do not use products from China. it's different in India which also has the largest population after China, from a developing country to finally being able to move to a developed country where the government can take advantage of the advantages of existing human resources, but what needs to be watched out for is the political role that feels like it wants to rule

China implemented strict population control policies from 1970s onward and as a result they were able to put more resources into education and healthcare. This is the difference between India and China. China has eradicated extreme poverty, and the per capita income is at least 3 times higher than that of India. And in India, the population still depends on freebies and only around 1.2% of the population pays income tax. With one-third of the area of China, India still has more people living on its land compared to its Northern neighbor.

[Negotiation]

As the population increases, the demand for goods and services will increase and the market size will continue to increase in the days to come. An open environment exists in today's world to benefit from overpopulation or to accept the ill effects of overpopulation. The government has to pay attention to its policies and activities if it wants to make a profit. Careless vision will bring the evil of overpopulation a large part of the production comes from micro and small and medium industries. The government should emphasize on investment in this industry. Increasing investment here can be a good option for domestic employment generation in the future.

[bayu7adi]

As the population increases, the demand for goods and services will increase and the market size will continue to increase in the days to come.

The magnitude of market demand is indeed substantial, but it all hinges on the prevailing conditions of governance and politics at that time. Can the supply adequately meet all existing demands at the most favorable price? Or will scarcity ensue, driving up prices and inflicting hardship upon the populace?

Therefore, there is no definite guarantee that a large population will automatically translate into a promising market. If a significant portion of the population possesses strong human capital, I believe that the country would find it easier to progress, and poverty could be alleviated through the equitable development of human resources.

[Kakmakr]

This is a very interesting and complex issue...

I am lucky enough to work in both worlds as part of my job, so I see the consequences of over and under population on a daily basis. I think over population can be managed, if you have a good government ....but in most 3rd world countries, that is not the case.

Take China for example and compare them to India..... In China you have a country with the second largest population in the world and their government are strict and less corrupt than other governments in third world countries. India have a typical third world government, where corruption and mismanagement are part of their daily lives...and with the world's biggest population... poverty and suffering are part of their lives.  

[Afnan_faizah]

I think populations is not a problem for country which has a lot natural resources. country like Japan or Korea maybe need to reduce their population because their country natural resources is not so much, the price of food there also expensive. but as long as the people is productive and contribute to the GDP I think big population is not a problem. Today we have internet, bitcoin, youtube, tiktok, microstock and etc that ease people to earn money from internet. by this way their purchasing power will increase so they can import some goods that they need.