Gambling Abuse ...

[ethereumhunter]

Maybe gambling beyond what is meant by gambling is abuse because people cannot use gambling as entertainment. Those who want to use gambling as a place to make money are already abusing the purpose of gambling itself. But they don't need to be caught and tried because it depends on their purpose for gambling. And if they lose a lot in gambling, it is their own fault because no one told them to continue gambling and spend a lot of money.

[Die_empty]

what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?
If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?
Lets have a discussion.

Gambling was designed for two major reasons which are entertainment and profit making. To me, gambling to gain some financial benefit is not gambling abuse but relying on it as a major source of income is where the problem is. We indeed gamble because of fun but we all also want to win and make some good money. Gambling has made some people very rich.

Furthermore, gambling abuse is the inability to control your gambling activities which leads to financial, health, or even family problems. When a man is using almost all his earnings to gamble and leaving his family to suffer from want, he is abusing gambling. When you fail to engage in productive ventures and spend all your time analyzing and forecasting games, you are a gamble abuser. If your gambling activity is affecting your health because you are gambling more than your capacity, you are abusing gambling. When you get to the extent of selling personal properties or borrowing to gamble, you need help.

Gambling addiction or abuse is not a crime in my country. If you like you can gamble with your life, you are not braking any law. Maybe it is illegal in some other country and the law will contain sanctions for that. To me, gambling abusers should have their finance controlled by their spouse or a financial administrator until they show signs of self-control.

[RockBell]

I do agree that perhaps for others it's pure entertainment, specially if the they can afford the money that they will lose in the game. However, gambling itself is already bad in the beginning, as you can go and become an addict.

And admit it or not, some gamblers, really wanted to win big and that's why they are willing to take that risk when the money in their hand. Specially those who are really in need of money, most of them are going to casino to hit that one big jackpot that will chance their lives.

To me I think is pure entertainment for me and aside from that one I caution myself very well from being an addict, once it gets to the level of addiction you start spending serious money but once it is for fun it pays, how hilarious bro have you placed a bet and see the potential win you will be triggered to play continuous, looking at the fact that money is involved, and like you said once you really in need of money, you start imaging different means of getting money and you start spending money you don't have in your head, and the bad condition of the economy has made people hunting for money by all means.

[Mauser]

How Does This Abuse Relate to Gambling?
We all know that gambling is originally meant to act as a means of entertainment, that is, its one of the ways people entertain themselves and in so doing, they stand a chance at winning money..
Today, because of the possibility to win money through gambling, Many gamblers no longer gamble as way of being entertained, but have turned gambling into  their major source of income, this is abuse because gambling was never meant to be a source of income or livelihood to anyone, but rather, another way for players to entertain themselves.

I don't think this is true, the sole purpose of gambling is not entertainment. First of all casinos that offer us the opportunity to gamble are private businesses, they need to turn a profit to keep operating, otherwise they go bankrupt. The main purpose of the casino is to make a profit, they need more people to lose at their games than there are winners. An entertainment companies focus is to make the customers happy, a casino is trying to take our money. For the customers it's something different, they want to have a good time and the chance to become rich. It's true that most people feel excitement when playing with money and also feel a rush of happiness when winning, I don't think the majority of gamblers look at it for income. Among my friends nobody would quit their regular job and start gambling as their new profession. At least for me gambling can't be a reliable source of income, I don't have the skills to make enough profit each month to pay all my bills.

[rahmad2nd]

what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?
If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

Lets have a discussion.

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor or pharmacist, I know nothing about drugs, all I said concerning Tramadol is solely based on my personal use and experience with the drug, in medical terms, I could be wrong with the description of the drug.

I am very familiar with these types of drugs. from what you said, that's absolutely true. the phenomenon of abuse of certain types of drugs is not something foreign to us. I'm pretty sure, in almost every country there is always something called abuse as you say. but actually, there are many types of abuse that occur with various cases, not just the tramadol phenomenon.
IMO, to be honest, the phenomena that occur in your country cannot be separated from a weak government system. we can discuss it, even from a political and corruption perspective. it's just that our discussion is gambling, so we return to the theme of gambling.

Speaking of gambling, we agree that most of the history of gambling on this earth is intended as a means of entertainment for its people. starting from traditional gambling, until it's time to develop to be as sophisticated as it is today. it's just that, what you say we can't really generalize. why, because every person/gambler has different intentions from one another. to me, there is no such thing as the Abuse of gambling. this is definitely different from the comparison you said in this thread. remember gambling is not a type of drug, even those that are prohibited from circulating freely.

Gambling is designed as a means of entertainment, but each user is free to express himself in gambling itself. either those whose goal is just for fun, or those who are serious about making a major income from gambling. the point is, one must know what he is doing from his gambling. whatever the reason, there is no problem with it. The important thing is, one realizes that gambling also carries risks. the most common risk, experiencing defeat.  the risk of not having a good impact, a person becomes a gambling addict. psychologically, humans have their own understanding, will, and how they think. So, the point is there is no such thing as Abuse of gambling IMO. unless, a gambler commits fraud.

[Gozie51]

Maybe gambling beyond what is meant by gambling is abuse because people cannot use gambling as entertainment. Those who want to use gambling as a place to make money are already abusing the purpose of gambling itself. But they don't need to be caught and tried because it depends on their purpose for gambling. And if they lose a lot in gambling, it is their own fault because no one told them to continue gambling and spend a lot of money.

The purpose of gambling like we are trying to discuss is actually subjective as the responses have suggested with individuals different views. So likewise gambling "abuse", like is there any standard for gambling abuse when the law did not make it so. I think abuse is what you feel having negative effect on you or other person that at the extreme might cause loss of life. Drug abuse might have direct cause to death because drug is a substance going inside your body and might harm your health but a gambler may become an addict and it effect needs an extraneous support or contribution if death will ever occur.

[Jawhead999]

Today, because of the possibility to win money through gambling, Many gamblers no longer gamble as way of being entertained, but have turned gambling into  their major source of income, this is abuse because gambling was never meant to be a source of income or livelihood to anyone, but rather, another way for players to entertain themselves.

I can still understand if some gambler think gambling is one of side hustle, but if the gambler think gambling is a major source of income, this is really impossible. Major source of income need to be stable and pays well, while earning through gambling is never been stable and pays well is depend on your luck. Maybe yesterday you've hit 1,000x multiply, but you might have gamble for 30 days in a row and never hit 1,000x.

[coin-investor]

what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?
If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

Lets have a discussion.

Anything that exceeds is considered abuse and abuse in gambling can be considered dangerous to finances and mental health, they should not be arrested they are not harming anyone but themselves unless they are stealing to gamble, I prefer to call them victims because if they are in the right mind they will not do something that will harm themselves and their love ones but they lose their capability to think correctly because of their addiction to gambling.

Those who fall into gambling abuse should be rehabilitated, it's not a crime to be addicted to gambling, and their relatives and the authorities should help them to get cured and restore their right mental health

[naira]

what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?
If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

There is nothing that needs to be done, because in the first place the individual chooses how to deal with gambling on his own, just like someone who takes these drugs and abuses them. Gambling and drug addicts are none other than clear examples where self-control does not start from other people but oneself.

back to government regulations that prohibit gambling but that doesn't mean those regulations apply to actually prevent it. For example, we know that drug abusers are arrested and put on trial, but did you know that it's not the roots who are being arrested, but just a group of criminals who have the status of addiction? his drug dealers continue to roam instead of standing behind the institution to be part of the game. Likewise with the cases of gamblers who were arrested, only those who were addicted, while the casino dealers continued to operate.

[bitbollo]

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Many gamblers no longer gamble as way of being entertained, but have turned gambling into  their major source of income, this is abuse because gambling was never meant to be a source of income or livelihood to anyone, but rather, another way for players to entertain themselves.
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Tramadol is an oppiate. I will suggest to read some about this class of medicine...

If a gambler is able to earn, "making a living" from this activity... let's go ahead! well done! he has found a job and no one should judge and I can't see any abuse....

How many people are really able to reach such level? How many people are able to made this job for several years?

[ajiz138]

I have to ask if he is harming others by using gambling as an abuse? If not, then he himself will be responsible.
It is not our authority but the police who will determine whether gambling is prohibited or not, if it is prohibited then it is likely that the police will arrest him.
I feel that if it harms others, in the sense of robbery, deprivation etc. then it should be prosecuted, but there are also gamblers as fun but we do not determine which attitude is correct.

[livingfree]

About the punishment, each casino has their own ways to determine whether a gambler is abusing them or not. And for those that have been abusing gambling, I think it is the other way.

They're being abused because they don't know that they already have been. It's not a matter though but in terms of taking dosages and drugs, it's not just all about gambling but also their mental health.

Honestly, I've just heard of this drug for the first time.

[darkangel11]

what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?
If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

How does this gambling abuse relate to drug abuse? I fail to see the connection somehow. I don't know any gamblers who turned to drugs because they failed in gambling.
Whether and how they should be prosecuted depends on the harm done by them. If they cheated in a game resulted in small loss for a casino, they should be treated like system testers or hackers. They did not cost the casino a lot of money and in return showed a loophole in the system.

[kamvreto]

Today, because of the possibility to win money through gambling, Many gamblers no longer gamble as way of being entertained, but have turned gambling into  their major source of income, this is abuse because gambling was never meant to be a source of income or livelihood to anyone, but rather, another way for players to entertain themselves.

I can still understand if some gambler think gambling is one of side hustle, but if the gambler think gambling is a major source of income, this is really impossible. Major source of income need to be stable and pays well, while earning through gambling is never been stable and pays well is depend on your luck. Maybe yesterday you've hit 1,000x multiply, but you might have gamble for 30 days in a row and never hit 1,000x.

It is risky to consider gambling as the main income, because it will not provide the desired income. There will be some defeats that we don't want at gambling. Remember that gambling only relies on luck, unless you bet on sports gambling which can do some player analysis. But in general gambling is influenced by luck. Make gambling as entertainment, so it won't be burdensome, if used as the main income then there will be many losses that can be obtained.

[tusandii]

what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?
If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

If you interpret gambling abuse, then there are many types of abuse that are rife and it all depends on each of us' point of view.
Some countries also have strict prohibitions against gambling activities and are regulated by the laws of that country.
Like the country where I live also prohibits the practice of gambling and anyone who is caught will be subject to imprisonment and a fine of a certain amount of money.
Even so, there are still many gamblers in my country who gamble using online gambling sites to avoid being caught by the authorities.

[TimeTeller]

what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?
If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

How does this gambling abuse relate to drug abuse? I fail to see the connection somehow. I don't know any gamblers who turned to drugs because they failed in gambling.
Whether and how they should be prosecuted depends on the harm done by them. If they cheated in a game resulted in small loss for a casino, they should be treated like system testers or hackers. They did not cost the casino a lot of money and in return showed a loophole in the system.

I believe the OP is just making a comparison here. Drug abusers are getting punished.
And when it comes to gambling abusers, they are also getting penalties from the site they abused with.
This is easier for online gambling sites as they will have a record how a certain player will abuse the services of the site.
Just take for example, those sign-up bonuses or free coins. The site itself can have their own security features to fight with abusers.
If not, they have their security team flagging down account of those abusers. So in a way, those who are caught of abusing the system will receive the penalties from the site according to what is stated from their terms and conditions, depending on what kind of violation that a player committed.

[uneng]

what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?

I totally understand your analogy between the medicine usage and gambling practice and I think it makes sense. And I would add that the medicine and gambling aren't bad or good, they are simply neutral tools people can make use of. If the consequences are going to be positive or negative, it will depend on how those people are using each of them. Therefore, gambling or medicines shouldn't be forbidden, rather people should be educated on how to use each of them for the right purposes, in a healthy way that will benefit them after all.

If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

Gamblers who cheat should be punished accordingly to the laws defined by the casino and local regulators, the same way drugs users are.

[Wiwo]

Maybe gambling beyond what is meant by gambling is abuse because people cannot use gambling as entertainment. Those who want to use gambling as a place to make money are already abusing the purpose of gambling itself. But they don't need to be caught and tried because it depends on their purpose for gambling. And if they lose a lot in gambling, it is their own fault because no one told them to continue gambling and spend a lot of money.

The purpose of gambling like we are trying to discuss is actually subjective as the responses have suggested with individuals different views. So likewise gambling "abuse", like is there any standard for gambling abuse when the law did not make it so. I think abuse is what you feel having negative effect on you or other person that at the extreme might cause loss of life. Drug abuse might have direct cause to death because drug is a substance going inside your body and might harm your health but a gambler may become an addict and it effect needs extraneous support or contribution if death will ever occur.

I agree with you Gozie51 on the fact that there is no ratio to determine the rate of gambling abuse and what statistics to stand with that make a stamp to be called gambling abuse,  and if you look closely,  it is subjective and peculiar to individuals perception of what make an abuse d activities in gambling,  because what may look normal to you can be branded as an abuse by another person,  same thing with every other activity that requires human satisfaction and grading.

Gambling abuse can mean different things for different people,  but in general,  taking gambling as a means of making income is a bad idea in whatever content you try to view it,  so if you defeat the main purpose of gambling which is for entertainment and dive over into making gambling a means to generate passive income,  at that point you have lost track and you can easily slide into many other negative factors.

[Aikidoka]

Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?

In my opinion, gambling abuse can lead to many serious issues starting with depression and potentially escalating to the point where the gambler might consider suicide. Therefore I believe casinos should take this matter very seriously and closely monitor gamblers' bets and activities to prevent such incidents from occurring.

Gambling should exist for entertainment purposes rather than solely being viewed as a source of income, it can never be a reliable source of income due to its high risks, and one can never be sure whether they will win or lose imo.

[molsewid]

If we really take gambling as our source of income or we think that this could be a good for passive income then I think it will be an abuse of course, first of all it is made for people's entertainment so when things are beyond our control and it started to ruin our lives then it will be an abuse and become and addiction like in meds. Some meds are prescribe and regulated for use because it can cause addiction just like in gambling.