Gambling Abuse ...

[Sakanwa]

Maybe gambling beyond what is meant by gambling is abuse because people cannot use gambling as entertainment. Those who want to use gambling as a place to make money are already abusing the purpose of gambling itself. But they don't need to be caught and tried because it depends on their purpose for gambling. And if they lose a lot in gambling, it is their own fault because no one told them to continue gambling and spend a lot of money.

If they don't gamble to make money,what else can people gamble for,I thought the main purpose of gambling is making money,and it is money that people wants to make that makes them always have the urge to gamble,the only people I can say they don't gamble to make money are people who are financially stable,and according to scientist,human want are insatiable,that is to say even people that already have money still needs money, therefore,anybody can gamble,and the main purpose is to make money.
Now people who abuse gambling to me are the once who even when they don't have the money to gamble,they still borrow,steal,become debtors because they just want to gamble,and even after borrowing money,they will still loose the money.Every gambler who gambles on credit have abused gambling to me.

[freedomgo]

Maybe gambling beyond what is meant by gambling is abuse because people cannot use gambling as entertainment. Those who want to use gambling as a place to make money are already abusing the purpose of gambling itself. But they don't need to be caught and tried because it depends on their purpose for gambling. And if they lose a lot in gambling, it is their own fault because no one told them to continue gambling and spend a lot of money.

Well, it certainly depends on the gamblers perspective towards gambling because I know that most of us (the gamblers) are seeking gambling to make money while entertainment comes in second as that will always follow whenever we are in the middle of our activities, regardless of what games are we playing or if we are inclined to sports betting or luck based games. Abuse for me is the same because it depends on how we interpret that word, and by my words, any excess is already an abuse.

[blockman]

what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?

I don't get this question but if it's about abusing gambling with that drug, we don't see what actually is happening from those gamblers that do use it. Any potential abuse that can be seen, some gamblers might tempt to do it.

If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?

Give them sanction and help, if they've been abusive because of drugs. What all they need is a rehabilitation. But if it's the actual abuse that they're cheating the casino, they might even go behind bars or total ban on that casino.

Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

Depends on the local law and business law.

[bittraffic]

what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?

I don't get this question but if it's about abusing gambling with that drug, we don't see what actually is happening from those gamblers that do use it. Any potential abuse that can be seen, some gamblers might tempt to do it.

If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?

Give them sanction and help, if they've been abusive because of drugs. What all they need is a rehabilitation. But if it's the actual abuse that they're cheating the casino, they might even go behind bars or total ban on that casino.

Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

Depends on the local law and business law.

When they abuse, that also means they are already addicted. That itself is already a punishment for the gamblers who couldn't stop despite losing money.  Some of them may even be trying to rob some things from someone in order to keep up their addiction. This is already a struggle.

This doesn't need to be argued though. If they turned gambling into their major source of income, it's their choice and we know how it ends to such stories if they don't quit. 
There are many stories of these people only a few have successfully got out of the addiction and gotten back up on their feet to a better life.

[BitcoinPanther]

First I think we must establish the meaning of gambling abuse in order to discuss the topic correctly.  @OP is somehow in haste to finish the thread failing to give examples and specific meaning of the term so instead of giving a specific example, he just stated a general terms which often confused the readers.  According to the internet gambling abuse is somehow the same as gambling addiction. 

With that we can say that gambling abuse has negative effect to the person because all it can do to the gambler is harm them.  Harm them in a way how gambling addiction works like being pre-occupied by the thought of gambling, uncontrollable urge to gamble, irresponsibility and so on. 

In gambling abuse it is not a matter of being entertain or getting profit from their gambling activity but rather being hooked and get addicted to gambling.

[Oasisman]

what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?
If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

Everything in excess is a form of an abuse regardless if it's still in line with the purpose or outside it. Earning or profiting from gambling is actually within the scope of how gambling should be, but if you're trying to make gambling as a means of living, that is obviously a form of abuse already because you need to gamble for many hours everyday as if you're in a day job.
But no, you can't arrest these kind of people because it is their money they used to o gamble and it is in their own discretion on which level they would digest the risk associated with gambling. Not unless if they commit crime to obtain some cash to do the gambling, then that obviously is against the law. But gambling excessively with your own money, the law enforcement doesn't really care about it as long you're not doing anything illegal.

[Dzwaafu11]

Today, many of our men and youths now take this drug, not for the purpose it was made, but for the fact that it gives energy and intoxicates at the same time, giving a feel-good kind of feeling, and lets also note that this drug is highly addictive, tramadol today is banned in a country like Nigeria due to the level of abuse on it, that is people taking the drug not for what it was created for, but for their own personal pleasure, police now arrest and prosecute owners of medicine shops who are caught selling tramadol to unauthorized patients.

Man, you are indeed correct. You forgot to mention another way of getting addicted to tramadol or any other drug that is a pain reliever in general, which is that some youths today get addicted to tramadol not only for its main purpose of taking it. but in which some people may come back from work and when they see that they feel a little headache or very tired and they see that they are experiencing some body pain, instead of these people having a bed rest and sleeping well, they will go and buy tramadol and take it to ease the pain. So you can see that some of these people who are addicted today got these conditions due to their work, and they keep buying these drugs repeatedly, and as a result, now they cannot do with these drugs every day they will be taking it.

Today, we have many players going the extreme just for a win, and most times if they fail, many resort to committing suicide as a way to lift of burden of debt they brought upon themselves due to irresponsible gambling which i can now also refer to as Gambling abuse .

I blame someone who uses gambling as a means of making money, which is not what it was intended for. This idea was not initially intended to be a means of support. Something that will wreck your life and cause you to feel bad but some people still utilize it as a means of making money. If they continue to view gambling as a means of making money, I'm sure that these people will experience health problems at last, since they may have a plan for every game to come as they want to help them solve there financial problems.

[Casdinyard]

While I would agree with the fact that gambling can definitely be abused by people, I don't agree much with the analogy you made. Tramadol while considered a drug, is way more detrimental to people's lives than gambling in my opinion. There are people who certainly threw their lives away through gambling and I only wish these people make it out of the hell hole they subjected themselves into but not only is tramadol life-disrupting, it's also deadly when used in excess.

I would advocate under the same banner as you since I sorely abhor gambling addiction, but at the same time we gotta paint a clear picture to the people we want to send the message out to so they don't mistake/misinterpret what we're trying to say.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

While I would agree with the fact that gambling can definitely be abused by people, I don't agree much with the analogy you made. Tramadol while considered a drug, is way more detrimental to people's lives than gambling in my opinion. There are people who certainly threw their lives away through gambling and I only wish these people make it out of the hell hole they subjected themselves into but not only is tramadol life-disrupting, it's also deadly when used in excess.

I would advocate under the same banner as you since I sorely abhor gambling addiction, but at the same time we gotta paint a clear picture to the people we want to send the message out to so they don't mistake/misinterpret what we're trying to say.

Very well said, but you realize the tramadol analogy is just an analogy after all, I didn't use it wit a mind of trying to compare the drug to gambling or compare gambling to the drug, from what I know, being addicted to gambling could be more dangerous to some people more than being addicted to the drug, and for others, the revise might be the cause, I personally wont come to the conclusion that either addiction to the drug or addiction to gambling is more dangerous, it all depends on the individual involved, at least, I know a gambler who was addicted to gambling for just two years and later ended his life at the beginning of the third year due to a supposed mistake he made, and having been addicted to tramadol in the past myself, I know a lot of  guys who are addicted to the drug for several years now and still alive and kicking.

[Fortify]

what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?
If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

Lets have a discussion.

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor or pharmacist, I know nothing about drugs, all I said concerning Tramadol is solely based on my personal use and experience with the drug, in medical terms, I could be wrong with the description of the drug.

So you or your friend was arguing that there is no such thing as gambling addiction? Seems pretty silly when all sorts of people end up addicted to all sorts of things. The "war on drugs" sounds good and is an easy sell for politicians, but in reality the problem has only gotten much worse since this was started decades ago and proves that it doesn't work. Offering people help and treatment should be the first step, because in the long run it will be much healthier for society and be cheaper than trying to persecute the problem away. Many gamblers end up deep in debt and misery, but do not resort to any sort of illegal behavior in the process, so they should be helped as much as possible.

[Makus]

Gambling abuse is not a crime, so nothing like prosecution.

Actually gambling abuse is a crime, almost every organization are built and running using policies or terms and conditions, and if you are a defaulter of the companies terms and conditions or policy you are automatically a culprit, not all culprits are being prosecuted for their crime often times the law enforcers are the ones to surfer the consequences.

I have witnessed a situation whereby an under age( not up to 18) went to a casino hall and was gambling, after a while some cops came in and arrested the manager and its workers for going against the companies policy by approving an under age gambler in the casino, the young gambler was left with advice by the cops but the manager paid severely for compromising.

from the  above experience, gambling abuse is not just subjected to how a gambler spends his finance in gambling, under age gamblers are all abusers.

Abuse and addiction are just the same.

Not all abusers are addicted to gambling vise versa.

[harapan]

Well, for me I believe the only way we can say something like gambling abuse is when the person is a minor and when a person is a gambling addict.
Gambling was never made to be the source of income, but it can be "a"source of income even if you're doing it for fun. The fact that it's supposed to be an entertainment doesn't mean it's wrong if you aim to make money from it. Isn't that the goal of gambling? Do you gamble if there is nothing to win?
Different people have different reasons why they gamble, so as far as they gamble responsibly, then it's fine by me.
There's no point policing the motive behind why people gamble or their reason for gambling.

[KTChampions]

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What is Gambling Abuse?
Gambling abuse is simply defined as gambling with a motive that is different from the real purpose why gambling is in existence.
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Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?
If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?
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You have built a very strange theory in which you have chosen a certain definition of gambling that suits your views. But firstly, other people may have different views, and secondly, if you look historically, then your views are definitely wrong, because initially gambling was based on the desire to win money and only on this. The cultural aspect of "playing just for fun" came much later and not everyone even now follows it. Therefore, I would say that your theory is divorced from reality and it is difficult for me to discuss it.

[Sandra_hakeem]

I don't think it's an abuse at that point,... that's just another person's view on how to utilize every privilege they've got to gamble - anyone could decide to use anything the way they want as long as it doesn't affect other people or goes against the government Policies...
I keep saying that nobody enjoys spending unnecessarily... I dunno if there's anyone though buh I believe any sane person shouldn't like weird things..
About the drug? Hmmm, mhan I didn't even stop jerking when you said you normally use them.... As what exactly if I may ask? analgesics??

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[lionheart78]

Gambling abuse is not a crime, so nothing like prosecution.

Actually gambling abuse is a crime, almost every organization are built and running using policies or terms and conditions, and if you are a defaulter of the companies terms and conditions or policy you are automatically a culprit, not all culprits are being prosecuted for their crime often times the law enforcers are the ones to surfer the consequences.

I have witnessed a situation whereby an under age( not up to 18) went to a casino hall and was gambling, after a while some cops came in and arrested the manager and its workers for going against the companies policy by approving an under age gambler in the casino, the young gambler was left with advice by the cops but the manager paid severely for compromising.

Isn't this a dereliction of duty?  This is not gambling abuse per se.  This is the manager allowing underage to gamble without thoroughly verifying their client.  This is a reason why the manager were arrested and was severely punished.

The one who commited gambling abuse here is the kid, imho, but because he is a minor and the manager failed to do his duty to prevent that kid from gambling, the punishment then was forwarded to the management.  This is one example of gambling abuse making harm to other people.

[milewilda]

Addiction or doing up those typical gambling behaviors doesnt really shows up on some abuse because you arent that using up something unlike on what you had mentioned on that example situation
in speaking about using up some substance then it would really be just that right that you should be faced up with some charges or as long it is really that prohibited on legal laws or something then you would be facing up that problem but if those substances or drugs arent that considered illegal then it would really be just make you end up on being hospitalized or being addicted on a substance.There's a particular limitation
on what are the things that could get you imprisoned or not.

In doing gambling and having that intent on making it as a source of income then the thing you are abusing is your own money, Why? You are playing like a mad man and having to
make those things that you do have in mind to make it happen which it isnt even realistic on having this kind of approach towards gambling because not a job on which you could rely
on but rather it is really a past time on which you could really be able to have leisure on.

[Reid]

what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?
If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

The effects are what makes them a criminal and I do think our governments have the numbers of criminal activities which are related to gambling abuse. Now, if authorities don't find it as worst as how it does with drug abuse, then no arrest will happen.
There's actually a big difference between the two, a gambler who abuses gambling doesn't really end up robbing a bank because his mind is intact, he is just stressed out. A drug addict has a different type of effect with drug abuse because it literally affects his brains. IMO.
Should gambling abusers be punished? I don't think so, but they do need help.

[Lida93]

The idea of gambling being a means of entertainment was conceived in the gladiators era an epoch when gladiators had to fight each other in an arena filled with spectators that places bets on them for who will lose or win the fight. Unfortunately it were  entertainments that cost the lives of fellows humans.
Today we have different means from which we can be entertained order than gambling. The majority of gamblers today are all in for the money they would win and needless of any entertainment. I don't know if it's the narrative for the money only that has led to so much abuse of gamble ranging from one form of abuse to another.

[Casdinyard]

While I would agree with the fact that gambling can definitely be abused by people, I don't agree much with the analogy you made. Tramadol while considered a drug, is way more detrimental to people's lives than gambling in my opinion. There are people who certainly threw their lives away through gambling and I only wish these people make it out of the hell hole they subjected themselves into but not only is tramadol life-disrupting, it's also deadly when used in excess.

I would advocate under the same banner as you since I sorely abhor gambling addiction, but at the same time we gotta paint a clear picture to the people we want to send the message out to so they don't mistake/misinterpret what we're trying to say.

Very well said, but you realize the tramadol analogy is just an analogy after all, I didn't use it wit a mind of trying to compare the drug to gambling or compare gambling to the drug, from what I know, being addicted to gambling could be more dangerous to some people more than being addicted to the drug, and for others, the revise might be the cause, I personally wont come to the conclusion that either addiction to the drug or addiction to gambling is more dangerous, it all depends on the individual involved, at least, I know a gambler who was addicted to gambling for just two years and later ended his life at the beginning of the third year due to a supposed mistake he made, and having been addicted to tramadol in the past myself, I know a lot of  guys who are addicted to the drug for several years now and still alive and kicking.

With that we both agree. I never meant to portray that Tramadol is more destructive than gambling mind you, just that these two things disrupt the person's life in different ways. With regular gambling there's patterns you won't see from people who's drugging themselves with Tramadol, and that's my only concern cause some people may think that these two things incur the same effects to the people which goes great if you want to scare off people from gambling, but bad if you want to make a point.

At the end of the day it still stands, gambling abuse sucks, so does substance abuse. I only wish recovery for people who have subjected themselves in these dire situations.

[romero121]

I don't think it's an abuse at that point,... that's just another person's view on how to utilize every privilege they've got to gamble - anyone could decide to use anything the way they want as long as it doesn't affect other people or goes against the government Policies...
I keep saying that nobody enjoys spending unnecessarily... I dunno if there's anyone though buh I believe any sane person shouldn't like weird things..
About the drug? Hmmm, mhan I didn't even stop jerking when you said you normally use them.... As what exactly if I may ask? analgesics??

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

As said people have got their rights and it is upto them to use the drugs based on their mind. We shouldn't make a connect to the gambling activities. Anything that doesn't affect the surrounding can never be judged wrong, he/she does it for self fulfilment and we don't have the rights to question unless it disturb others or the surrounding. Another thing if the money isn't involved into gambling then gambling could've never been this successful and people could've never been this active in it.