Merit source and top merit earners

[vapourminer]

Merit sources are chosen after an application where they have to meet some criteria.

some are that way. but many of us never applied and just logged in one day and were informed we were now merit sources.

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[GazetaBitcoin]

many of us never applied and just logged in one day and were informed we were now merit sources.

I am also more than certain that, even in such cases (which I also heard of), theymos made a thorough analysis for each such user. I have no doubts that theymos would choose a merit source based on nothing. So, most likely, each such user had a good history of meriting posts from various boards, spotting quality posts and good forum contributors. theymos is a rational person, as far as I observed, and does nothing on a rush or not by analyzing thoroughly his decision and potentially outcomes.

So I believe that those selected to be merit sources without a formal application also fully deserve their position.

[Nwada001]

It's obvious that the OP's account was just created for this kind of thread in order not to give a bad name to his or her main account, as this is obviously an alt account.
But allowing oneself to think about this kind of thing will only end up drawing the person back, as they will believe that nothing could possibly be achieved by them since they don't have any merit source to back them up with some merit, without realizing that some merit could just be earned by just dropping a few quality posts without them knowing.
 
@Cantsay and mk4 Was this meme created for this thread, or do you already have them in your gallery? Those images really made my day.😂

[Learn Bitcoin]

I would be okay even if the OP would be active inside his own thread. So far, it seems that he only started the topic to create some drama and abandoned it.

Maybe OP just wanted to see the community's reaction to it. He might add further words to back his claims if he gets any support. Since almost nobody supported it, he decided not to add anything.

Furthermore, as far as I see, absolutely nobody supported OP's ideas. What does this mean for him? That all which wrote here are hand in hand with merit sources?

Many members can support him (Not about the sockpuppet claim) about not meriting new accounts. But I don't think people will say anything here since it will show their bad face and might get ignored by others. Most people who think like OP is not aware of Meta board well. I believe most of them are under the Full Member rank. I feel like the Full member rank is not an expert, not a newbie type of rank. There was a time when I thought newbies do not get merits because of their rank. This is true, and I explained here why it's kind of true. At the same time, there is no point in raising the finger toward merit sources.

[Sexylizzy2813]

I think the OP's aim of opening this topic has been achieved but we don't seem to get it. I feel he only wants to create something that's not useful that's getting all high ranked members and also the merit sources of this Forum to come here and say things that not suppose to be like defending themselves over nothing or maybe his trying to know one or two merit source in this forum not that they offended him is just to gather you all in one room and you play to his tune... Because to me it's absurd and he's not even saying shit to back up his claims. OP I see you and I hope you're using your other account to reply too. Funny human.

[Cantsay]

Because to me it's absurd and he's not even saying shit to back up his claims. OP I see you and I hope you're using your other account to reply too. Funny human.

It was obvious right from the start of the thread that the Op will never return back to the thread, if he had the intention of returning he won't have created a new account just to post this thread on the forum.

As for creating this thread to know some merit source, I don't really think that's the reason. If you're observant enough and if you have stayed in the forum for sometime it will be very easy for you to spot those that are merit sources and if you use bpip.org to view the amount of merit sent by that profile you'll be able to note if that account is a merit source or not.

The only reason the must have triggered Op into creating this thread was probably his main account was stuck in a certain amount of merit for a long time and even after making several post he never got any single merit and that why he became butt-hurt.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Because to me it's absurd and he's not even saying shit to back up his claims. OP I see you and I hope you're using your other account to reply too. Funny human.

It was obvious right from the start of the thread that the Op will never return back to the thread, if he had the intention of returning he won't have created a new account just to post this thread on the forum.

You are right, this is exactly the same thought i had in mind when i first read the op, it is not possible for a newbie to just sign up and create such a thread as their first post, if i should guess, my guess would be that the real user who created this thread is either of a full member rank or senior member, if only the forum had a feature allowing users to view each other's ip addresss, maybe it would have been possible to find out who this user is if he or she is not using a VPN service.

As for creating this thread to know some merit source, I don't really think that's the reason. If you're observant enough and if you have stayed in the forum for sometime it will be very easy for you to spot those that are merit sources and if you use bpip.org to view the amount of merit sent by that profile you'll be able to note if that account is a merit source or not.

The only reason the must have triggered Op into creating this thread was probably his main account was stuck in a certain amount of merit for a long time and even after making several post he never got any single merit and that why he became butt-hurt.

Who or how does knowing who and who is a merit source help any user in the first place? finding out who a merit source is to either beg them for merit or attack them through pm or dm will only get such user sectioned with a temp or perma ban if the harassed user reports the case, so i see no way knowing who a merit source is benefits anyone including op, i very much go with your assumption of the op being stuck as a particular number of earned merit, that indeed can really annoying but still, is not enough to create a post as this.

[Pmalek]

Who or how does knowing who and who is a merit source help any user in the first place? finding out who a merit source is to either beg them for merit or attack them through pm or dm will only get such user sectioned with a temp or perma ban if the harassed user reports the case, so i see no way knowing who a merit source is benefits anyone including op

Maybe he thinks he has a chance to purchase some merits from some of them. Lol he should try and see how that goes. But I don't think he wanted to learn who the merit sources are. It's really an easy thing to find if you want to.

To answer your question about what benefit one could have from knowing who the merit sources are. It's a long shot, but a user could check in which subs the merit source distributes most of their merits. They could then adapt and adjust their posting habits accordingly. But genuine members wouldn't need to do that as they can collect members wherever they post. 

[The Sceptical Chymist]

They do really have the advantage and this what make this system sucks.

Advantage over what?  Getting into signature campaigns?

Has it crossed your mind that most merit sources have been members here for years and have had to demonstrate to Theymos through their merit source applications that 1) they want to help the forum by volunteering to keep the merit system running, 2) they know which posts are merit-worthy and which are crap, 3) they've been here long enough to prove that they're not likely to abuse the system?

As far as sources receiving the most merits, that's not necessarily a negative (though I'd like to see more merits going to lower-ranked members).  If a source like fillipone or LoyceV, for example, is one of the top merit earners they've simply gotten more sMerits to hand out--which they will eventually if they run out of source sMerits.

This is a non-issue that I've never heard brought up before.  It reeks of jealousy, OP.

[Sandra_hakeem]

...and the OP was so ambivalent about the whole thing that they had to create an alt to write this senseless wall of crap.. he's simply a Milquetoast. He' better suck his mum's cunt if he says otherwise.
What do merit sources got to do with campaigns and milking - milking the shit outta your dumb brains..huh??? no, haven't you also realized that you're ENTITLED to earning merits?? And that merit sources selloff 'em merits to everyone that has much more than you do?.... that's exactly why you ain't got the guts to come out and speak. I'll even listen more when you're being real...
Maybe you weren't informed that campaign managers scout for quality posters? ... Why don't you employ AIs to help you develop your writing skills, maybe that'll give you every single merit in here,.. don't worry, I'll tell the spam busters not to report your account 🙂.  ...yeahhh.. mhan,for the fact that you ain't onymous,.. I'm just wishing you got your ass whopped for this shit, seriously..

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[Husires]

It's one of the few posts where all the forum members agree that they are against @OP's idea.
Merit sources were chosen in a central way, their efforts are voluntary and they are not allowed to sell merit points so they have a kind of independence and the whole system is transparent and monitored which prevents obvious abuse and no merit source has been reported that sold a his merits.

You can hate a member or put you in them ignore list, this can be for 10, 20 or even 50, but If most of the merit sources do not want to see your posts, then the problem is with you.

[Shamm]

It's one of the few posts where all the forum members agree that they are against @OP's idea.
Merit sources were chosen in a central way, their efforts are voluntary and they are not allowed to sell merit points so they have a kind of independence and the whole system is transparent and monitored which prevents obvious abuse and no merit source has been reported that sold a his merits.

You can hate a member or put you in them ignore list, this can be for 10, 20 or even 50, but If most of the merit sources do not want to see your posts, then the problem is with you.

We are all know that merit source is not a paid job here in our community which means they volunteered or they've choosen by the admin so we can not force them that they will give us merits because they have their own way to give. And yes mate you are right once all merit source don't want to see OP's post then the problem is on the Op he must increase his style of posting and increase his  thoughts.

[Mate2237]

Op's perception on Merit Sources is very vague and for the OP to create this account to attack merit sources because he is a shit poster who could not get Merit from his posts as other users did and that is why he is coming to thread this thread to accused them. And instead of the OP to study how things are working in the forum and learn how to post quality posts, he is here using Alt-account to create trash here.

I have not heard that a Merit Source is bias in his dealing with the public when giving merits so therefore, op you can channel your accusation to another location and not to Merit Sources.

[Meritsourceareshit]

Bump....

How people been recently kicked on campaign due to lack of merits?
Aren't you being suspicious about those 100+ merit earners with those new names?

Those are alt accounts raised up by those top merit sources or earners which they are farming out signature campaign in non obvious manner.

[LoyceMobile]

Those are alt accounts raised up by those top merit sources or earners which they are farming out signature campaign in non obvious manner.

Great story. Now prove it.
Don't get me wrong: it probably happens. But there's no point in saying it without showing who exactly.

[SamReomo]

Those are alt accounts raised up by those top merit sources or earners which they are farming out signature campaign in non obvious manner.

Great story. Now prove it.
Don't get me wrong: it probably happens. But there's no point in saying it without showing who exactly.

That guy is only sharing what his little mind is able to comprehend. I also want the OP to show us some proofs of his claims because saying is easy than proving and if he can't prove his claims then he should stop promoting such things.

@OP, the merit sources are doing great job on this forum and it's because of them the new accounts that contribute good information are getting some merits. They try to help all those members whose contribution is helpful for the other members of the forum.

If you can't contribute good information then you should not make false accusations against others. Try to make some good posts and you'll see that how generous are the merit sources of the forum.

[Oilacris]

Those are alt accounts raised up by those top merit sources or earners which they are farming out signature campaign in non obvious manner.

Great story. Now prove it.
Don't get me wrong: it probably happens. But there's no point in saying it without showing who exactly.

That guy is only sharing what his little mind is able to comprehend. I also want the OP to show us some proofs of his claims because saying is easy than proving and if he can't prove his claims then he should stop promoting such things.

@OP, the merit sources are doing great job on this forum and it's because of them the new accounts that contribute good information are getting some merits. They try to help all those members whose contribution is helpful for the other members of the forum.

If you can't contribute good information then you should not make false accusations against others. Try to make some good posts and you'll see that how generous are the merit sources of the forum.

Any claims without sufficient proofs would really be considered trolling and there's no way that he could provide such information because if he had then he would definitely be presenting it to the community. Merit sources of this forum does make a great job on giving merits and it would of course will really be that depending whether your post is relevant and contributive or
simply a shit one. You wont really be getting any merits if you dont contribute something useful here in the community.

[hugeblack]

It is difficult for a single merit source to make his alt account legendary, you have a limit of 50 per month meaning you will need about 20 months to rise to the rank of legendary, and it is impossible to see a strange influx of merits this way without noticing. Therefore, even a Merit source needs to generate several high-quality replies if he wants to cheat or create a large farm of accounts that can be easily detected.

[OcTradism]

some are that way. but many of us never applied and just logged in one day and were informed we were now merit sources.

Only late merit sources had to make applications and wait for approvals from theymos.

When merit system was kicked off, there are merit sources and they got that directly from theymos. Maybe with or without invitation or agreement, I don't know exactly but perhaps theymos did sent invitations and wait for agreements before assigning merit source to a user.

Maybe first 35 merit sources are mostly forum admins and staffs.

Does that mean all merit sources are hand selected?

Right. There are about 35 right now.

I added more.

By no means is the set of merit sources or their sMerit/month static. I will be adjusting it a lot as needed, especially in the beginning. I wouldn't be surprised if there are 100-200 sources in a year from now.

[SamReomo]

It is difficult for a single merit source to make his alt account legendary, you have a limit of 50 per month meaning you will need about 20 months to rise to the rank of legendary, and it is impossible to see a strange influx of merits this way without noticing. Therefore, even a Merit source needs to generate several high-quality replies if he wants to cheat or create a large farm of accounts that can be easily detected.

I agree with you the merit sources can't send more than 50 merits to a single account per month and I don't think that merit sources have that much free time to rank up alt accounts to legendary rank. I also agree with you that without high-quality threads or replies even the merit sources won't be able to send that high number of merits to a single account, and it will be much difficult and noticeable if a merit source tries to send 50 merits to a new account each month for 20 consecutive months.

The claims by the @OP are 100% fake and I'm pretty sure that he won't be able to prove his so-called claims that he made against the merit sources. The merit sources are doing their job in the best way possible and I can say that they are fair with all those members who create high-quality threads or replies. We can't stop people like OP from making of such claims because our forum is the best example of freedom of speech, and that's why whatever they say we will listen to their words and we're okay to reply to them as many time as possible to prove them wrong.

I'm pretty sure that anyone who makes such claims is someone who is unable to gain merits because of his/her low-quality posts or not giving proper time to the forum for some other reasons. There are members who didn't made very high quality posts but were consistent in their efforts and tried their best to be active on forum and contribute whatever they could, and even such members also ranked up only because of the generosity and kind nature of the merit sources who support all those members who contribute something to the forum.