Exploring the Math Behind Crash

[Beparanf]

I saw the video but I don’t get it? How is it possible that this solution can tell us probability of what is next multiplier? I mean if everyone started using the this strategy then what happens to the house edge and other calculations? Isn’t that is going ti complicate the casino revenu Vs what’s user is earning in the first place. Though I am not maths related person and might be seeing it completely wrong. In the video they also shown that someone used the strategy to earn more than 600k in single crash game. That’s mind wobbling man, how can this be open source and it is still safe?

The video is all about explaining how the math works on determining the result of the crash game. It doesn’t gave any mathematical computation to solve upcoming rounds but rather he is just proving that strategy of betting small on crash games is useless by getting the formula on how crash games result being computed.

This topic is about just exploring the math behind crash game since it has open source code but it doesn’t mean that the future result can be computed using the video tutorial.

[serjent05]

I saw the video but I don’t get it? How is it possible that this solution can tell us probability of what is next multiplier? I mean if everyone started using the this strategy then what happens to the house edge and other calculations? Isn’t that is going ti complicate the casino revenu Vs what’s user is earning in the first place. Though I am not maths related person and might be seeing it completely wrong. In the video they also shown that someone used the strategy to earn more than 600k in single crash game. That’s mind wobbling man, how can this be open source and it is still safe?

The video is all about explaining how the math works on determining the result of the crash game. It doesn’t gave any mathematical computation to solve upcoming rounds but rather he is just proving that strategy of betting small on crash games is useless by getting the formula on how crash games result being computed.

There is a part of the video where it shows by providing the hash, the next hash is generated which is the same as the Roobets crash result. Though the explanation does not emphasize it. Though I think the video is also reminding us that martingale method won't work on this game since there is a 3% possibility (according to the video) that it will crash in an instant.

This topic is about just exploring the math behind crash game since it has open source code but it doesn’t mean that the future result can be computed using the video tutorial.

I agree, it is clearly stated that crash games is not favorable to the players in the long run.

[yahoo62278]

Crash IMO is 1 of the worst games out there but people seem to love it. Unless you're running a script, there's not a ton of time between rounds to adjust your bet accordingly and I feel like it rushes the player and in turn players make big mistakes.

The math says play crash= goodbye btc

[Fivestar4everMVP]

For my fellow math nerds,

I have found a very useful video which explains the mathematics and probabilities behind the game Crash and why beating the game with a low multiplier strategy in the long term is almost impossible. Anyone who has played on the Roobet Cryptocurrency Casino should know about it since their code is open source, which is available to everyone but you would need to understand the code itself to make any sense of how it works.

However, there is a youtube video which explains it from a simple mathematical standpoint, so even if you do not have the necessary coding knowledge, it is still easy to understand.

Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1HA7e3acSI

 

I have not watched the video yet, but thanks very much for sharing, from reading comments from other users, I know the video must be a very interesting one, i will will it later when i have free time, I am only commenting here to watch this thread so it serves as reminder for me not to forget.

Crash is one of my favorite casino games, I play it a lot but unfortunately, the only time i make anything reasonable out of the game is when i am playing it in demo  mode, the game could go as high as x300, x400 and even higher, but when playing the real game with real money, it hardly replicate such that it did in the demo version, i hope to learn to get a glimpse as to why such happens, through the video, and hope it helps me improve in the game.

[Gyfts]

It's interesting how the martingale strategy chart this guy presented has a peak negative EV on the 10th bet before decreasing. Without getting into the math, I thought the negative EV linearly grew with each bet, apparently that's not the case. Whatever the house edge is, crash implicates a lot of hindsight bias. I still enjoy playing it and I've seen a lot of clones on other places. Roobet has the best UI out of all of them.

[tusandii]

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Crash is one of my favorite casino games, I play it a lot but unfortunately, the only time i make anything reasonable out of the game is when i am playing it in demo  mode, the game could go as high as x300, x400 and even higher, but when playing the real game with real money, it hardly replicate such that it did in the demo version, i hope to learn to get a glimpse as to why such happens, through the video, and hope it helps me improve in the game.

Naturally, if you use the demo mode you can get a large multiplier because the demo mode has a curious effect on gamblers who try the game and even winning big is very easy there.
When playing for real by risking money in your balance it will be more difficult to win big or get a high multiplier as well as what I have experienced so far when trying the Crash game I have never even managed to have a very large multiplier.

As for the strategy, I don't really believe in it because in my opinion, Crash is only supported by luck if you want to win big.

[Pmalek]

I don't think the OP ever said it was possible to beat the game using a high multiplier. True, he said, "with a low multiplier strategy," and instead, he should have said: "with any multiplier strategy." However, if you watch the video, you will understand that this is not about beating the game but mathematically proving that the game is unbeatable in the long run.

All casino games are unbeatable long-term if you consider an entire userbase of players. Some of them will profit for sure, but the house edge (any house edge) will give the casino more profit than the winnings they have to pay out.

If there was something like a bulletproof game that can make anyone rich, you wouldn't be able to play it in a casino that is interested in taking your money, not giving it to you. It would be outlawed. If you get lucky and win the first time you play, take your money and go. The longer you stay trying to win even more, you increase your chances of losing everything or giving back to the provider a big chunk of your initial win. 

[Haunebu]

You don't really need to understand the math behind crash in order to realise whatever you stated because it's just another gambling game that makes sure that the house always wins in the long-term thanks to the house edge factor.

Some gamblers keep thinking that they found winning strategies just because they won in the short-term which is silly and dumb since those strategies will never work in the long-term.

Good share op though some people might not understand due to weak math skills.

[Yatsan]

You don't really need to understand the math behind crash in order to realise whatever you stated because it's just another gambling game that makes sure that the house always wins in the long-term thanks to the house edge factor.

Some gamblers keep thinking that they found winning strategies just because they won in the short-term which is silly and dumb since those strategies will never work in the long-term.

Good share op though some people might not understand due to weak math skills.

First of all, a gambling site or provider won't allow such patterns to be easily known and discovered by players 'coz it will yield to loss on their end. Indeed it is just a luck-based game just like others so I don't things pattern would really work on this game. Also if it does, eventually the provider would make an action to stop it 'coz' it will result to loss on their end. Algorithm would work in gambling industry but problem is accessibility in such pattern and avoiding further problems. House will indeed win most of the time. They simply have the money to change the thing which causes th negative outcome. If it works for you then that's good.

[Hispo]

Actually, I once played Crash on Stake during a boring afternoon and since I was new at the game I tried to go with a low multiplier strategy, instead risking to go forward and pick a big win. I was not aware of the math behind it but I quickly realized that beating the game and pocketing some money with such strategy was not a good way to go and I would eventually lose all my satoshis. That afternoon I was not feeling confident enough, so I quit after 10 rounds or so.

I must say from my own experience that playing crash and looking how people risked it all for high multipliers and they actually did it on live in front of me, it can only incite to continue playing. It is in my opinion one of the most adrenaline-inducing games in the general catalog of online casinos.  

[Fortify]

For my fellow math nerds,

I have found a very useful video which explains the mathematics and probabilities behind the game Crash and why beating the game with a low multiplier strategy in the long term is almost impossible. Anyone who has played on the Roobet Cryptocurrency Casino should know about it since their code is open source, which is available to everyone but you would need to understand the code itself to make any sense of how it works.

However, there is a youtube video which explains it from a simple mathematical standpoint, so even if you do not have the necessary coding knowledge, it is still easy to understand.

What you have ultimately got to understand is, that all these games are run by companies that are not charities. They do not exist to give money away and the fact that they can survive for years should highlight to you that they likely make a lot of money. On top of all the staff they're paying, the servers they host, the advertising that brings in more customers and all the required security to fight off people trying to take them down every day for blackmail - they're even slicing a profit on that. If, somebody was able to calculate a way to defeat these crash games, the casinos running them will adapt very quickly and it will leave you back at square one - being susceptible to the random number generator gods.

[Sandra_hakeem]

There are no arithmetical approach behind crash that practically works out... Gambling is never easy and sometimes I feel whatever maneuvers are usually created into the system are made by lame analysis of those self-acclaimed gambling gurus... But, the sad story is - casino programmers and developers aren't that dumb... They create these games in a way that there are no single maneuvers left - cus, that'll only be to the casinos disadvantage... afterall that's what they're paid for, right??..
Crash would suckup your balance till all you got left is just some few sats that can't even wager a chance in the game anymore.... beCAREFUL!!!

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[AmoreJaz]

There are no arithmetical approach behind crash that practically works out... Gambling is never easy and sometimes I feel whatever maneuvers are usually created into the system are made by lame analysis of those self-acclaimed gambling gurus... But, the sad story is - casino programmers and developers aren't that dumb... They create these games in a way that there are no single maneuvers left - cus, that'll only be to the casinos disadvantage... afterall that's what they're paid for, right??..
Crash would suckup your balance till all you got left is just some few sats that can't even wager a chance in the game anymore.... beCAREFUL!!!

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

that is true, i also don't think much about classic game like crash. if you will overthink about the mathematical approach on this, you will go crazy. i don't know why gamblers are trying to find a path that is really not plausible when it comes to luck-based games. hoping that it will affect their game because it is not. how many strategies that we have known, and yet, the outcome varies from one person to another.

[LUCKMCFLY]

There are no arithmetical approach behind crash that practically works out... Gambling is never easy and sometimes I feel whatever maneuvers are usually created into the system are made by lame analysis of those self-acclaimed gambling gurus... But, the sad story is - casino programmers and developers aren't that dumb... They create these games in a way that there are no single maneuvers left - cus, that'll only be to the casinos disadvantage... afterall that's what they're paid for, right??..
Crash would suckup your balance till all you got left is just some few sats that can't even wager a chance in the game anymore.... beCAREFUL!!!

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

that is true, i also don't think much about classic game like crash. if you will overthink about the mathematical approach on this, you will go crazy. i don't know why gamblers are trying to find a path that is really not plausible when it comes to luck-based games. hoping that it will affect their game because it is not. how many strategies that we have known, and yet, the outcome varies from one person to another.

Well, from the programming point of view, all the mathematical modeling that can be done can be done, and in fact certain patterns can be achieved, because if it is done in a simulator, things can happen, and there is no problem with that, ne the similator things can be seen well, but when it is run inside the program is something else, things do not look so ideal when it is a code, because we do not know at what moment things change suddenly, in the Internal programming must have scripts that allow them to have various ways of cheating and to be able to do something else, it's like when we're in a casino and we think we have the pattern, we start playing, playing and then suddenly everything changes and the ptatron doesn't It is that but another and then it changes, so that is the complication of this, that is why not even the AI can determine the patterns, much less the amount of randomness that there is.

Mathematics within a game is changing, for me there are many things, I don't know if those who saw the mathematics realized that there is a very good and complicated mathematics called game theory, in this matter they explain some of the modeling mathematical applied by programmers, however this is not all, in each game there are always random factors that change the meaning of the game, that is why it is so difficult to determine or find out what is the best pattern for you to try to find out what multiplier the crash game might have, but it is so difficult, because sometimes when the crash is played, a x1 comes out and that is already something that leaves neutral, when the players make a 3x crash bet it is difficult, because many Sometimes the algorithm can give us a surprise by not getting there, although most of the time when we play it is always 5x, 7x, but sometimes things don't work out the way they are, that is the care that must be taken.

[abel1337]

There are no arithmetical approach behind crash that practically works out... Gambling is never easy and sometimes I feel whatever maneuvers are usually created into the system are made by lame analysis of those self-acclaimed gambling gurus... But, the sad story is - casino programmers and developers aren't that dumb... They create these games in a way that there are no single maneuvers left - cus, that'll only be to the casinos disadvantage... afterall that's what they're paid for, right??..
Crash would suckup your balance till all you got left is just some few sats that can't even wager a chance in the game anymore.... beCAREFUL!!!

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

that is true, i also don't think much about classic game like crash. if you will overthink about the mathematical approach on this, you will go crazy. i don't know why gamblers are trying to find a path that is really not plausible when it comes to luck-based games. hoping that it will affect their game because it is not. how many strategies that we have known, and yet, the outcome varies from one person to another.

I agree, I never judge the mechanics behind crash. I've been playing it for a long time and actually it's one of my favorite casino game of all time. I always depend on my luck and guts when I play crash. I don't overthink on this type of luck based games since I believe that it should be played with fun and challenge. I'm using a strategy but I don't overthink so much to the extent that I question the mathematical things behind of the game and the codes of it. I'm not that kind of nerd.

[milewilda]

There are no arithmetical approach behind crash that practically works out... Gambling is never easy and sometimes I feel whatever maneuvers are usually created into the system are made by lame analysis of those self-acclaimed gambling gurus... But, the sad story is - casino programmers and developers aren't that dumb... They create these games in a way that there are no single maneuvers left - cus, that'll only be to the casinos disadvantage... afterall that's what they're paid for, right??..
Crash would suckup your balance till all you got left is just some few sats that can't even wager a chance in the game anymore.... beCAREFUL!!!

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

that is true, i also don't think much about classic game like crash. if you will overthink about the mathematical approach on this, you will go crazy. i don't know why gamblers are trying to find a path that is really not plausible when it comes to luck-based games. hoping that it will affect their game because it is not. how many strategies that we have known, and yet, the outcome varies from one person to another.

I agree, I never judge the mechanics behind crash. I've been playing it for a long time and actually it's one of my favorite casino game of all time. I always depend on my luck and guts when I play crash. I don't overthink on this type of luck based games since I believe that it should be played with fun and challenge. I'm using a strategy but I don't overthink so much to the extent that I question the mathematical things behind of the game and the codes of it. I'm not that kind of nerd.

Better not to make yourself that been boggled with those things as long you do know that you are dealing with a fair site or something reputable then chances of rigged games would be not possible but in overall in speaking
about odds on winning the game then it would really be entirely be depending on your luck. Codes would be always against its players on which there might be some people who do able to win but expect the other side that there would really be tons of losers which its not really that shocking anymore on gambling field.  Crash games are really that totally that famous wayback into those early years like 2015-2020 or even up to now which Bustabit is really that still existing and does still have that considerable amount of gamblers which does simply shows that interest and preference is still there. Im not really that shocked that there are really that those type of people who are really still that skeptical when it comes to fairness. Well, im not really blaming them on but as a common gambler behavior on which on the time that they would having a loss then they would really be always loving on blaming and pointing out fingers that they are dealing with something not fair or simply being rigged. lol

[iv4n]

Crash would suckup your balance till all you got left is just some few sats that can't even wager a chance in the game anymore.... beCAREFUL!!!

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

I think we can say the same for every gambling game. Any gambling game can lead us straight to zero if it's not "our day/night". It's hard to be careful in gambling, I would even dare to say it can be bad to be careful in some moments... simply if we are not brave enough to risk here and there our balance will just melt down like ice on the sun. It's more important to be careful with deposits, never deposit more than you can lose cause once you make a deposit you need to play the game and take some risks, and that can pay off or not!

There is the math behind Crash and all other games, but it's hard to make big calculations when we have a limited balance for playing and we wish to make more money in a short period of time. I guess greediness is one of the top reasons why we lose, at least in most cases...

[khaled0111]

Thank you OP for sharing this very informative video with us. I wish there were more threads like this one in the gambling board. This will help gamblers understand the math being the games they are playing and how things work under the hood.
I'm surprised I didn't notice it before although I visit the gambling board almost every day. Has it been moved here recently?

I'm using a strategy but I don't overthink so much to the extent that I question the mathematical things behind of the game and the codes of it. I'm not that kind of nerd.

After watching the video you will realize that no strategy will work on the long run. Forget about beating the house and simply enjoy the game.

[seoincorporation]

There is not a big deal in the math behind that or any other casino games, since the site has a house edge they will always win for the long run, and there is no way to win against it because the numbers are on the house side. You can think about it like flipping a coin, and each time you lose then you lose $10 and each time to win you win $9, since the statistics say you will win 50% of the times in the long run that profit difference is that wan that doesn't allow you to win for the long run.

[Onyeeze]

For my fellow math nerds,

I have found a very useful video which explains the mathematics and probabilities behind the game Crash and why beating the game with a low multiplier strategy in the long term is almost impossible. Anyone who has played on the Roobet Cryptocurrency Casino should know about it since their code is open source, which is available to everyone but you would need to understand the code itself to make any sense of how it works.

However, there is a youtube video which explains it from a simple mathematical standpoint, so even if you do not have the necessary coding knowledge, it is still easy to understand.

Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1HA7e3acSI

 

All of something of this nature are supposed to be shared in the trading section because looking at this particular thing you find that it give easy access to understand things and it give access know what you are doing. When I clicked the link you shared with us, I was not having the knowledge of coding before but with the youtube link I'm now able-bodied to understand small things about code, so therefore with these code can be learn and well understood very well.