Exploring the Math Behind Crash

[abel1337]

There are no arithmetical approach behind crash that practically works out... Gambling is never easy and sometimes I feel whatever maneuvers are usually created into the system are made by lame analysis of those self-acclaimed gambling gurus... But, the sad story is - casino programmers and developers aren't that dumb... They create these games in a way that there are no single maneuvers left - cus, that'll only be to the casinos disadvantage... afterall that's what they're paid for, right??..
Crash would suckup your balance till all you got left is just some few sats that can't even wager a chance in the game anymore.... beCAREFUL!!!

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

that is true, i also don't think much about classic game like crash. if you will overthink about the mathematical approach on this, you will go crazy. i don't know why gamblers are trying to find a path that is really not plausible when it comes to luck-based games. hoping that it will affect their game because it is not. how many strategies that we have known, and yet, the outcome varies from one person to another.

I agree, I never judge the mechanics behind crash. I've been playing it for a long time and actually it's one of my favorite casino game of all time. I always depend on my luck and guts when I play crash. I don't overthink on this type of luck based games since I believe that it should be played with fun and challenge. I'm using a strategy but I don't overthink so much to the extent that I question the mathematical things behind of the game and the codes of it. I'm not that kind of nerd.

Better not to make yourself that been boggled with those things as long you do know that you are dealing with a fair site or something reputable then chances of rigged games would be not possible but in overall in speaking
about odds on winning the game then it would really be entirely be depending on your luck. Codes would be always against its players on which there might be some people who do able to win but expect the other side that there would really be tons of losers which its not really that shocking anymore on gambling field.  Crash games are really that totally that famous wayback into those early years like 2015-2020 or even up to now which Bustabit is really that still existing and does still have that considerable amount of gamblers which does simply shows that interest and preference is still there. Im not really that shocked that there are really that those type of people who are really still that skeptical when it comes to fairness. Well, im not really blaming them on but as a common gambler behavior on which on the time that they would having a loss then they would really be always loving on blaming and pointing out fingers that they are dealing with something not fair or simply being rigged. lol

I'm still playing on bustabit since it's the OG and the longevity of is something that neither other crash casino website has. Many have copied the game idea but as we see from the players, I believe that that casino is still reigning in crash games. I'm not good at analyzing and investigating codes that's why I think it's a waste of time for me trying to investigate it. Others who had a better skills would have been done it. There are gamblers who are skeptical but there are positive things about them like doing their own research about the negative things that can happen to a casino like checking if it is still good as it ever before.

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[dezoel]

There are no arithmetical approach behind crash that practically works out... Gambling is never easy and sometimes I feel whatever maneuvers are usually created into the system are made by lame analysis of those self-acclaimed gambling gurus... But, the sad story is - casino programmers and developers aren't that dumb... They create these games in a way that there are no single maneuvers left - cus, that'll only be to the casinos disadvantage... afterall that's what they're paid for, right??..
Crash would suckup your balance till all you got left is just some few sats that can't even wager a chance in the game anymore.... beCAREFUL!!!

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

that is true, i also don't think much about classic game like crash. if you will overthink about the mathematical approach on this, you will go crazy. i don't know why gamblers are trying to find a path that is really not plausible when it comes to luck-based games. hoping that it will affect their game because it is not. how many strategies that we have known, and yet, the outcome varies from one person to another.

Not just crazy but it can also make you go broke because you are testing every possibilities. That is not a healthy way anymore to gamble. Isn't it obvious on why they kept doing it? That is because they want to make living off gambling.

Although there are also streamers who can get paid and professional gamblers but I am not referring to them. Formulating strategies might affect our game in a way that we can last a little longer but in the end, the casino can still reign. There are well-known strategies but as we see, they are less effective. I think that is because the casino already knows about them and they already adjusted their system.

[Johnyz]

Not just crazy but it can also make you go broke because you are testing every possibilities. That is not a healthy way anymore to gamble. Isn't it obvious on why they kept doing it? That is because they want to make living off gambling.

Although there are also streamers who can get paid and professional gamblers but I am not referring to them. Formulating strategies might affect our game in a way that we can last a little longer but in the end, the casino can still reign. There are well-known strategies but as we see, they are less effective. I think that is because the casino already knows about them and they already adjusted their system.

Even if we try to solve such pattern or formula, you can still get the same answer and that is the house will always win.
Imagine having such numbers, you will really go crazy even if you are good at math. Better to use your math skills in Lottery which I think have the chance to decode a good strategy to increase the probability for you to win since there are rumors about solving it and many won in lottery already. Crash game is a system operated game, and casinos are more wise because they have to.

[Saint-loup]

It's interesting how the martingale strategy chart this guy presented has a peak negative EV on the 10th bet before decreasing. Without getting into the math, I thought the negative EV linearly grew with each bet, apparently that's not the case. Whatever the house edge is, crash implicates a lot of hindsight bias. I still enjoy playing it and I've seen a lot of clones on other places. Roobet has the best UI out of all of them.

How would you explain this decrease and this peak negative EV exactly? It would be surprising. IMO it's just because he made a mistake in his spreadsheet by truncating or rounding values of the Probability of losing column at only 2 digits after the decimal point. It doesn't matter for the first values when it's 51.71% or 26.71% for example. But it doesn't have the same consequences when it's 0.06% and 0.03% for the rest of the calculations.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1HA7e3acSI&t=480s

[goaldigger]

Not just crazy but it can also make you go broke because you are testing every possibilities. That is not a healthy way anymore to gamble. Isn't it obvious on why they kept doing it? That is because they want to make living off gambling.

Although there are also streamers who can get paid and professional gamblers but I am not referring to them. Formulating strategies might affect our game in a way that we can last a little longer but in the end, the casino can still reign. There are well-known strategies but as we see, they are less effective. I think that is because the casino already knows about them and they already adjusted their system.

Even if we try to solve such pattern or formula, you can still get the same answer and that is the house will always win.
Imagine having such numbers, you will really go crazy even if you are good at math. Better to use your math skills in Lottery which I think have the chance to decode a good strategy to increase the probability for you to win since there are rumors about solving it and many won in lottery already. Crash game is a system operated game, and casinos are more wise because they have to.

This is actually a good effort to compute the numbers and I agree that this is gambling, whatever you think the strategy is might not still be enough to break the system of casinos and they will still be the profitable one here. Though there’s nothing wrong to try too, and if OP will succeed on this the it can be a good progress for the gamblers, I’m sure OP is a math genius so there’s nothing to worry about getting crazy here.

[khaled0111]

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This is interesting but can you explain more!. As far as I can see, the guy give gave exemples based on his experience and based on some math equations. Why do you think there are inconsistencies! The equations he has provided and all the math behind it make sens.
It makes sense and it's logical.

[Chikito]

This is actually a good effort to compute the numbers and I agree that this is gambling, whatever you think the strategy is might not still be enough to break the system of casinos and they will still be the profitable one here. Though there’s nothing wrong to try too, and if OP will succeed on this the it can be a good progress for the gamblers, I’m sure OP is a math genius so there’s nothing to worry about getting crazy here.

In gambling, everything with impossible will become possible, and vice versa. We have to determine it to be more profit-oriented when our finger is on the mouse and bet button. As I remember in high school, there was a math lesson about opportunity theory, but the results were not certain exactly what we wanted, because the number of output results is always two-way which it depend on how many times we spin it. So when we talk about math in gambling, the results will obviously be different and unexpected.

[tbct_mt2]

In gambling, everything with impossible will become possible, and vice versa.

It's a game of probability and win or lose can come with our bet.

We have to determine it to be more profit-oriented when our finger is on the mouse and bet button. As I remember in high school, there was a math lesson about opportunity theory, but the results were not certain exactly what we wanted, because the number of output results is always two-way which it depend on how many times we spin it. So when we talk about math in gambling, the results will obviously be different and unexpected.

When we bet, our andrenaline and dopamine will change a lot which causes us to be more uncontrollable. We will make more emotional decisions with our bets and it's hard to stop if we can not have a calm mind. Mostly we lose our control with betting, a longer time we are betting continuously, a more possibility we will lose control of emotion and decision.

Math will no longer work for us when our minds are already emotional controlled.

[Beparanf]

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This is interesting but can you explain more!. As far as I can see, the guy give gave exemples based on his experience and based on some math equations. Why do you think there are inconsistencies! The equations he has provided and all the math behind it make sens.
It makes sense and it's logical.

I think he is just trying express the difference on outcome if the last part of the computation will not be rounded off since the percentage is already and it will give a significant difference if you round up on a place which the main value for the percentage is located.

There’s no problem on the math behind. The consistency on showing the data is what he is referring as I understand his comment.

[Saint-loup]

This is interesting but can you explain more!. As far as I can see, the guy give gave exemples based on his experience and based on some math equations. Why do you think there are inconsistencies! The equations he has provided and all the math behind it make sens.
It makes sense and it's logical.

I was just replying to Gyfts who noticed a so-called peak and a decrease of the Expected Value. The guy of the video didn't talk about that AFAIK, it's just an observation from this user. But I'm surprised by his finding because it doesn't seem logical and the values hardly follow a pattern. So I asked him if he had an explanation about that and if he tried to make the calculations without rounding the probability of losing, because it's the most logical explanation IMO.
-0.46 (-0.05) -0.51 (-0.01) -0.52 (-0.04) -0.56 (+0.07) -0.49 (+0.15) -0.34

[Mr.suevie]

Not just crazy but it can also make you go broke because you are testing every possibilities. That is not a healthy way anymore to gamble. Isn't it obvious on why they kept doing it? That is because they want to make living off gambling.

Although there are also streamers who can get paid and professional gamblers but I am not referring to them. Formulating strategies might affect our game in a way that we can last a little longer but in the end, the casino can still reign. There are well-known strategies but as we see, they are less effective. I think that is because the casino already knows about them and they already adjusted their system.

Even if we try to solve such pattern or formula, you can still get the same answer and that is the house will always win.
Imagine having such numbers, you will really go crazy even if you are good at math. Better to use your math skills in Lottery which I think have the chance to decode a good strategy to increase the probability for you to win since there are rumors about solving it and many won in lottery already. Crash game is a system operated game, and casinos are more wise because they have to.

It is very funny how some gambler would actually think he or she can actually use their maths solving abilities in an habit such as gambling, l mean just like you said the house always come out victorious in situation like this as I have seen a gambler who taught he can be too and calculate his way to victory on virtual soccer game by actually recording every single game that was played past and using these records against the house but the latter was the case and he lost a lot as his confidence to win practically put him into more blunder.

[Hamphser]

Not just crazy but it can also make you go broke because you are testing every possibilities. That is not a healthy way anymore to gamble. Isn't it obvious on why they kept doing it? That is because they want to make living off gambling.

Although there are also streamers who can get paid and professional gamblers but I am not referring to them. Formulating strategies might affect our game in a way that we can last a little longer but in the end, the casino can still reign. There are well-known strategies but as we see, they are less effective. I think that is because the casino already knows about them and they already adjusted their system.

Even if we try to solve such pattern or formula, you can still get the same answer and that is the house will always win.
Imagine having such numbers, you will really go crazy even if you are good at math. Better to use your math skills in Lottery which I think have the chance to decode a good strategy to increase the probability for you to win since there are rumors about solving it and many won in lottery already. Crash game is a system operated game, and casinos are more wise because they have to.

It is very funny how some gambler would actually think he or she can actually use their maths solving abilities in an habit such as gambling, l mean just like you said the house always come out victorious in situation like this as I have seen a gambler who taught he can be too and calculate his way to victory on virtual soccer game by actually recording every single game that was played past and using these records against the house but the latter was the case and he lost a lot as his confidence to win practically put him into more blunder.

On the time that the reality would slap into your face then this is the time that you would really be able to realize that Math or whatever analysis and methods you would be making or using will really be pointless.

Yes, you can win for sometime or some moments but doesnt mean that it is working or really that possible.It really just happen that you are really just that lucky that time and not something that give out
that kind of idea that the analysis you had made was indeed a perfect strategy. Sooner or later you would really be able to bust yourself on using those strategies. Its true and its been commonly known that
house do always win at the end. You would really be finding yourself on a situation on which you are really that losing even more just because you are really that trying out to make that strategy work.

Tihs is where most gamblers do really fail and getting wrecked on gambling just because of those kind of hopes which we know that this isnt how gambling do work and this isnt
how people should really be treating up this way. If you do have this kind of mindset then it would really be creating that kind of desperation.

[khaled0111]

It is very funny how some gambler would actually think he or she can actually use their maths solving abilities in an habit such as gambling, l mean just like you said the house always come out victorious in situation like this as I have seen a gambler who taught he can be too and calculate his way to victory on virtual soccer game by actually recording every single game that was played past and using these records against the house but the latter was the case and he lost a lot as his confidence to win practically put him into more blunder.

What's actually funny is that the guy in the video isn't using his math skills to figure out a way or to find a strategy to beat the house, as some members are suggesting. What he did is explaining how crash games work. He even gave detailed stats just to prove that you can't beat the house no matter what. He also talked about the martingale strategy and explained why it can't work.

[AmoreJaz]

It is very funny how some gambler would actually think he or she can actually use their maths solving abilities in an habit such as gambling, l mean just like you said the house always come out victorious in situation like this as I have seen a gambler who taught he can be too and calculate his way to victory on virtual soccer game by actually recording every single game that was played past and using these records against the house but the latter was the case and he lost a lot as his confidence to win practically put him into more blunder.

What's actually funny is that the guy in the video isn't using his math skills to figure out a way or to find a strategy to beat the house, as some members are suggesting. What he did is explaining how crash games work. He even gave detailed stats just to prove that you can't beat the house no matter what. He also talked about the martingale strategy and explained why it can't work.

well, a lot of people are gullible and they thought there's really some math explanation behind this game of chance. because if there' even one that can give you a guarantee of winnings, maybe, a lot of people already used such strategy. how many decades have people known about martingale, d'alembert and so on. and yet, no one has even known to become filthy rich by using such known methods.