Boxing: Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney (9th of December)

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If only power is the only factor and measurement to be the best of super-lightweight division then Devin Haney wouldn't have any problems but he shouldn't forget that it will be a new weight for him and a new division as well, and while he's still adjusting to the weight, his opponents like Regis Prograis who is more comfortable at 140 will not show him mercy just because of that. Haney does have a chance, I'll give him that, but not as decent compared to the one whom he will face. And Teo Lopez? It turns out that he's just an underrated boxer who actually does have a chance to be one of the bad guys at 140 and let's not forget Josh Taylor, I think he can still bounce back.

Haney is high technical and has reach advantage, so I don't really think different weight will give him a trouble.

Prograis, Matias, Romero and Lopez aren't high technical boxers, so it will be pretty hard to beat Haney. Well maybe Josh Taylor has a chance to fight with Haney even though he not own any title, but his last performance against Catterall and Lopez were not good.

Lopez actually an overrated boxer due to his popularity, he's strong and has a stamina, but his performance is just not stable.

I don't know what you're trying to say but reach advantage doesn't have anything to do with the weight needed to fight at 140 lbs., there is even no guarantee that he can even defeat and dominate the guys who are more comfortable at that weight class compared to him.

Look, I know that you might have high hopes towards Haney or something like that but the path that he's stepping into is still unknown and anything can happen because it's not his division to begin with. What more now that he's going directly towards the champion instead of trying a much safer debut first.

I understand why Haney chose to directly challenge the champion, as he believes he can defeat the champion and this match presents a significant opportunity to earn more money. From a promoter's perspective, this is an appealing fight, and it's possible that the organization permitted it, similar to Inoue moving up in weight to challenge and beat the champion Fulton with ease. As for this fight, its outcome remains uncertain, but looking at the odds from sportsbooks, Haney is the clear favorite to win.

There is nothing wrong about them facing each other in a fair fight in the agreed time frame because that's how the boxing works and we cannot deny Haney's right to approach a different division because he sees himself as a future champion in a different level but what happened is Haney is requesting a very lowball offer, he wanted to have the majority of the purse and then he wanted to contest it in a much earlier date and time which was not on their negotiations to begin with. He should also understand the opposite camp because this is not all about him.

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[Oasisman]

The present champion, Regis Prograis, has an impressive record as well. Although he is not an undefeated boxer, his KO rate is high—24 out of 29 fights, which is equivalent to an 82.7% KO rate. I hope he will be as quick as Haney so he will be able to hit him and use that high KO rate to his advantage.

You can't beat what you can't hit, and Haney is so good at hitting his opponent without getting hit, after Mayweather he is the best defensive boxer now, and I believe he can beat Prograis even if Prograis has a high knock-out ratio, Haney has beaten a lot of great punchers by his technical skills I don't know who will be the favorite by experts here but this early he is my favorite to win by decision.

Though technically you're right, one cannot beat someone who he can't do damage with, but this fight will be interesting to watch as both fighters had a not-so good fight prior to this one. A lot of boxing fans said their last win was a robbery. Prograis could have been easily the favorite if not his last performance, I mean he won 4 straight TKO's after he lost to Taylor in 2019. While Haney was being rocked by a smaller and aged fighter who is out of his prime during his last fight against Loma. I know Prograis is not as fast and agile as Loma but his a power puncher and I doubt Haney's chin though, 12 rounds is pretty long to try and defend yourself not getting hit by a hard hit. Nevertheless, Haney is a good defensive fighter let's just see who will prevail.

[freedomgo]

If only power is the only factor and measurement to be the best of super-lightweight division then Devin Haney wouldn't have any problems but he shouldn't forget that it will be a new weight for him and a new division as well, and while he's still adjusting to the weight, his opponents like Regis Prograis who is more comfortable at 140 will not show him mercy just because of that. Haney does have a chance, I'll give him that, but not as decent compared to the one whom he will face. And Teo Lopez? It turns out that he's just an underrated boxer who actually does have a chance to be one of the bad guys at 140 and let's not forget Josh Taylor, I think he can still bounce back.

Haney is high technical and has reach advantage, so I don't really think different weight will give him a trouble.

Prograis, Matias, Romero and Lopez aren't high technical boxers, so it will be pretty hard to beat Haney. Well maybe Josh Taylor has a chance to fight with Haney even though he not own any title, but his last performance against Catterall and Lopez were not good.

Lopez actually an overrated boxer due to his popularity, he's strong and has a stamina, but his performance is just not stable.

I don't know what you're trying to say but reach advantage doesn't have anything to do with the weight needed to fight at 140 lbs., there is even no guarantee that he can even defeat and dominate the guys who are more comfortable at that weight class compared to him.

Look, I know that you might have high hopes towards Haney or something like that but the path that he's stepping into is still unknown and anything can happen because it's not his division to begin with. What more now that he's going directly towards the champion instead of trying a much safer debut first.

I understand why Haney chose to directly challenge the champion, as he believes he can defeat the champion and this match presents a significant opportunity to earn more money. From a promoter's perspective, this is an appealing fight, and it's possible that the organization permitted it, similar to Inoue moving up in weight to challenge and beat the champion Fulton with ease. As for this fight, its outcome remains uncertain, but looking at the odds from sportsbooks, Haney is the clear favorite to win.

There is nothing wrong about them facing each other in a fair fight in the agreed time frame because that's how the boxing works and we cannot deny Haney's right to approach a different division because he sees himself as a future champion in a different level but what happened is Haney is requesting a very lowball offer, he wanted to have the majority of the purse and then he wanted to contest it in a much earlier date and time which was not on their negotiations to begin with. He should also understand the opposite camp because this is not all about him.

Haven't heard about that news because most of their tensions are just mere nonsense and were just made to add some fuel to the fire to attract more audience because we already know that Haney doesn't know how to market a fight aside from being boring in the ring. But as per their schedule, they are still set to face each other on October 28 in Las Vegas, Nevada.

[mirakal]

The present champion, Regis Prograis, has an impressive record as well. Although he is not an undefeated boxer, his KO rate is high—24 out of 29 fights, which is equivalent to an 82.7% KO rate. I hope he will be as quick as Haney so he will be able to hit him and use that high KO rate to his advantage.

You can't beat what you can't hit, and Haney is so good at hitting his opponent without getting hit, after Mayweather he is the best defensive boxer now, and I believe he can beat Prograis even if Prograis has a high knock-out ratio, Haney has beaten a lot of great punchers by his technical skills I don't know who will be the favorite by experts here but this early he is my favorite to win by decision.

Though technically you're right, one cannot beat someone who he can't do damage with, but this fight will be interesting to watch as both fighters had a not-so good fight prior to this one. A lot of boxing fans said their last win was a robbery. Prograis could have been easily the favorite if not his last performance, I mean he won 4 straight TKO's after he lost to Taylor in 2019. While Haney was being rocked by a smaller and aged fighter who is out of his prime during his last fight against Loma. I know Prograis is not as fast and agile as Loma but his a power puncher and I doubt Haney's chin though, 12 rounds is pretty long to try and defend yourself not getting hit by a hard hit. Nevertheless, Haney is a good defensive fighter let's just see who will prevail.

Let's see if Haney can still intercept and avoid Regis power punches because that is his only chance to win this fight because his technicality will always be a thing and his asset no matter what division he fights on, but those defensive maneuvers while throwing a counterattack will somehow vary as the more you weight, the slower you'll get specially if 140 is not your comfortable weight. Anyway, this will be a good fight as both of them have a thing to prove.

[FinneysTrueVision]

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.

The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

[Iranus]

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.

The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

I actually understand why they wanted to move the date. But I think that is not actually necessary to be honest. I believe the Haney fight is going to be a good one anyway. And there is no reason for him to make such a fuss about changing the date.

Obviously, people are going to want to see the other fight. Tyson Fury versus Francis, those two are definitely much more popular. And also will be able to bring in a huge amount of money. Because we got the interest of two worlds, two sets of fans, in this fight.

[bbc.reporter]

We have witnessed Tank vs. King Ry, Inoue vs. Fulton and Crawford vs. Spence. I am shaking my head why this young Devin Haney does not fight Shakur Stevenson and risk is undisputed lightweight championship against the best. These young boxers are sometimes only good in trashtalk, however, the opponents in their records are not big names.

Perhaps that's the reason why the Haney's sign with PBC, as he doesn't want to rematch Loma or fight Top Ranks Shakur Stevenson. But maybe they realized that they eat more than they can chew in choosing a reigning 140 lbs titlist in Regis Prograis. Much better, and has more power than any fighter that they have fought and so they want to take control of the negotiations in any way they can.

@Darker45 - if I'm not mistaken, the date is supposedly Oct 28 for them to clash.

This might be why we continue to witness more boxing fans start watching MMA. The organization behind boxing is in disorder because of these different promotions that compete against each other and these different championships that have their own mandatory rules. I reckon this makes it difficult for the best to negotiate with the other best and also much of the time, they avoid each other.

[Kemarit]

We have witnessed Tank vs. King Ry, Inoue vs. Fulton and Crawford vs. Spence. I am shaking my head why this young Devin Haney does not fight Shakur Stevenson and risk is undisputed lightweight championship against the best. These young boxers are sometimes only good in trashtalk, however, the opponents in their records are not big names.

Perhaps that's the reason why the Haney's sign with PBC, as he doesn't want to rematch Loma or fight Top Ranks Shakur Stevenson. But maybe they realized that they eat more than they can chew in choosing a reigning 140 lbs titlist in Regis Prograis. Much better, and has more power than any fighter that they have fought and so they want to take control of the negotiations in any way they can.

@Darker45 - if I'm not mistaken, the date is supposedly Oct 28 for them to clash.

This might be why we continue to witness more boxing fans start watching MMA. The organization behind boxing is in disorder because of these different promotions that compete against each other and these different championships that have their own mandatory rules. I reckon this makes it difficult for the best to negotiate with the other best and also much of the time, they avoid each other.

Nah, even though that corruption as rampant in boxing, still for me, it's one of the most watch fights as compare to MMA (no offense to MMA fans, as I'm also a fan). But it's very different with you have 4 governing bodies at the same time, and then we have a lot of promoters vying for that spot. For their fighters to become a champion regardless of what belt is it.
Compare to MMA wherein there is just one champion in every weight class and you have to earn your spot to become mandatory. But in any case, we shouldn't compare the two though, we can both be fans of this contact sports and enjoy it, IMHO.

[Vaculin]

We have witnessed Tank vs. King Ry, Inoue vs. Fulton and Crawford vs. Spence. I am shaking my head why this young Devin Haney does not fight Shakur Stevenson and risk is undisputed lightweight championship against the best. These young boxers are sometimes only good in trashtalk, however, the opponents in their records are not big names.

Perhaps that's the reason why the Haney's sign with PBC, as he doesn't want to rematch Loma or fight Top Ranks Shakur Stevenson. But maybe they realized that they eat more than they can chew in choosing a reigning 140 lbs titlist in Regis Prograis. Much better, and has more power than any fighter that they have fought and so they want to take control of the negotiations in any way they can.

@Darker45 - if I'm not mistaken, the date is supposedly Oct 28 for them to clash.

This might be why we continue to witness more boxing fans start watching MMA. The organization behind boxing is in disorder because of these different promotions that compete against each other and these different championships that have their own mandatory rules. I reckon this makes it difficult for the best to negotiate with the other best and also much of the time, they avoid each other.

Haney's choice don't really make any sense in my perspective because if they want a strong boxer to establish his name, then his mandatory title defense, Shakur Stevenson is the answer for that and that is a big pot of money waiting for him. But for some other reasons, they choose to take some risks, a much risky fight against a much veteran fighter that can somehow compete against him, Regis Prograis who is also a champion at 140. And if he gets successful in his campaign, I guess the other three champions are much easier because they already took the down the bigger tree.

[Yaunfitda]

We have witnessed Tank vs. King Ry, Inoue vs. Fulton and Crawford vs. Spence. I am shaking my head why this young Devin Haney does not fight Shakur Stevenson and risk is undisputed lightweight championship against the best. These young boxers are sometimes only good in trashtalk, however, the opponents in their records are not big names.

Perhaps that's the reason why the Haney's sign with PBC, as he doesn't want to rematch Loma or fight Top Ranks Shakur Stevenson. But maybe they realized that they eat more than they can chew in choosing a reigning 140 lbs titlist in Regis Prograis. Much better, and has more power than any fighter that they have fought and so they want to take control of the negotiations in any way they can.

@Darker45 - if I'm not mistaken, the date is supposedly Oct 28 for them to clash.

This might be why we continue to witness more boxing fans start watching MMA. The organization behind boxing is in disorder because of these different promotions that compete against each other and these different championships that have their own mandatory rules. I reckon this makes it difficult for the best to negotiate with the other best and also much of the time, they avoid each other.

Haney's choice don't really make any sense in my perspective because if they want a strong boxer to establish his name, then his mandatory title defense, Shakur Stevenson is the answer for that and that is a big pot of money waiting for him. But for some other reasons, they choose to take some risks, a much risky fight against a much veteran fighter that can somehow compete against him, Regis Prograis who is also a champion at 140. And if he gets successful in his campaign, I guess the other three champions are much easier because they already took the down the bigger tree.

And you know what's another thing that Devin Haney says that it doesn't make sense, is that after his 140 lbs fight against Prograis or whoever it was, he says that he will go down to 135 lbs and fight Shakur.

It's because why he not fight Shakur right now? And instead choose to go up at 140 lbs and chase another belt? And then right now we heard stories that he is offering low money to Prograis?

[jakelyson]

This is on the unconfirmed or just rumored to be on October 28, fight and it was on Tapology here is the link -  https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/103643-haney-vs-prograis

Devin Haney is surely being Criticise for not having enough power to knock out his opponent and his latest fights all ended with a decision but surely in his amateur fights it was all KO/TKO and this is because of his honed boxing style now he is an out boxer and setting up an attack with a counter and pretty much his Style was influence by Floyd Mayweather because Floyd was the one that has trained Haney back then and giving him tips on how to punch without getting punch, so another fighter will have a difficult time with his because he is constantly moving out and backing up,

Regis Prograis is an aggressive fighter well I really don't have any idea yet what his style is but sure it was normal aggressive punching and will surely go inside the ring in targeting getting a knockout for sure and pretty much he is an inside fighter he also got an accuracy in firing his shot so for sure this is surely an interesting fight, on who is going to win is it an aggressive puncher or the outside counter puncher,

[inthelongrun]

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.

The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

I actually understand why they wanted to move the date. But I think that is not actually necessary to be honest. I believe the Haney fight is going to be a good one anyway. And there is no reason for him to make such a fuss about changing the date.

Obviously, people are going to want to see the other fight. Tyson Fury versus Francis, those two are definitely much more popular. And also will be able to bring in a huge amount of money. Because we got the interest of two worlds, two sets of fans, in this fight.

I assume this fight is on pay-per-view as well. Devin Haney is paid millions of dollars per fight since his fight over Kambosos so I guess a million or two is not enough for him anymore. I remember when Eddie Hearn upon knowing Haney's promotional contract with Top Rank expired mentioned that he is becoming an expensive fighter and that he might not afford his services anymore. So it simply means that his fights are going to be on PPV.

Devin Haney is popular only to hardcore fans and while Prograis is a KO artist, he doesn't have a huge fanbase as well. Fury-Ngannou is a mismatch and is nowhere near the quality of Prograis-Haney but Fury has a huge fanbase and Ngannou might have the backing of the huge MMA community.

[Japinat]

We have witnessed Tank vs. King Ry, Inoue vs. Fulton and Crawford vs. Spence. I am shaking my head why this young Devin Haney does not fight Shakur Stevenson and risk is undisputed lightweight championship against the best. These young boxers are sometimes only good in trashtalk, however, the opponents in their records are not big names.

Perhaps that's the reason why the Haney's sign with PBC, as he doesn't want to rematch Loma or fight Top Ranks Shakur Stevenson. But maybe they realized that they eat more than they can chew in choosing a reigning 140 lbs titlist in Regis Prograis. Much better, and has more power than any fighter that they have fought and so they want to take control of the negotiations in any way they can.

@Darker45 - if I'm not mistaken, the date is supposedly Oct 28 for them to clash.

This might be why we continue to witness more boxing fans start watching MMA. The organization behind boxing is in disorder because of these different promotions that compete against each other and these different championships that have their own mandatory rules. I reckon this makes it difficult for the best to negotiate with the other best and also much of the time, they avoid each other.

Haney's choice don't really make any sense in my perspective because if they want a strong boxer to establish his name, then his mandatory title defense, Shakur Stevenson is the answer for that and that is a big pot of money waiting for him. But for some other reasons, they choose to take some risks, a much risky fight against a much veteran fighter that can somehow compete against him, Regis Prograis who is also a champion at 140. And if he gets successful in his campaign, I guess the other three champions are much easier because they already took the down the bigger tree.

And you know what's another thing that Devin Haney says that it doesn't make sense, is that after his 140 lbs fight against Prograis or whoever it was, he says that he will go down to 135 lbs and fight Shakur.

It's because why he not fight Shakur right now? And instead choose to go up at 140 lbs and chase another belt? And then right now we heard stories that he is offering low money to Prograis?

We don't certainly know what's up with him or their camp or his promoter, PBC. But I know that it's a stunt again because PBC has been known to do these kind of tricks but one thing is for sure, this particular step don't help Haney in his case or whatever it is because it will not make his name pretty as why would it be now if it's already clear that he is ducking Shakur Stevenson.

I remember that he actually have the balls to say that "I'm Number 1" in front of Shakur while Shakur responded "hey, for now" and then skipped the mandatory fight while hiding behind the reason that he is more interested to fight Regis at 140 but he's making himself already special by making demands even if he's not in the position to ask for it.

[btc_angela]

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.

The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

I actually understand why they wanted to move the date. But I think that is not actually necessary to be honest. I believe the Haney fight is going to be a good one anyway. And there is no reason for him to make such a fuss about changing the date.

Obviously, people are going to want to see the other fight. Tyson Fury versus Francis, those two are definitely much more popular. And also will be able to bring in a huge amount of money. Because we got the interest of two worlds, two sets of fans, in this fight.

I assume this fight is on pay-per-view as well. Devin Haney is paid millions of dollars per fight since his fight over Kambosos so I guess a million or two is not enough for him anymore. I remember when Eddie Hearn upon knowing Haney's promotional contract with Top Rank expired mentioned that he is becoming an expensive fighter and that he might not afford his services anymore. So it simply means that his fights are going to be on PPV.

Devin Haney is popular only to hardcore fans and while Prograis is a KO artist, he doesn't have a huge fanbase as well. Fury-Ngannou is a mismatch and is nowhere near the quality of Prograis-Haney but Fury has a huge fanbase and Ngannou might have the backing of the huge MMA community.

Yes, just to be fair with Haney, if he fights Prograis, he should be considered the A-side as he has been fighting good to great boxers and beating them. However, Prograis, may not ring a bell for casual fans, but if you check his record, he is a very good boxer as well and a KO artist and he almost beat the last unified 140 lbs champion in Josh Taylor.

And that's what make this fight exciting for us, a KO artist in Prograis and then Haney using his defense to his advantage and maybe beat Prograis with that kind of strategy and not allowing himself to get hit by the power of Regis here. But this should be at least fair for Regis to also get a good money in the purse split as he had the belt here.

[inthelongrun]

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.

The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

I actually understand why they wanted to move the date. But I think that is not actually necessary to be honest. I believe the Haney fight is going to be a good one anyway. And there is no reason for him to make such a fuss about changing the date.

Obviously, people are going to want to see the other fight. Tyson Fury versus Francis, those two are definitely much more popular. And also will be able to bring in a huge amount of money. Because we got the interest of two worlds, two sets of fans, in this fight.

I assume this fight is on pay-per-view as well. Devin Haney is paid millions of dollars per fight since his fight over Kambosos so I guess a million or two is not enough for him anymore. I remember when Eddie Hearn upon knowing Haney's promotional contract with Top Rank expired mentioned that he is becoming an expensive fighter and that he might not afford his services anymore. So it simply means that his fights are going to be on PPV.

Devin Haney is popular only to hardcore fans and while Prograis is a KO artist, he doesn't have a huge fanbase as well. Fury-Ngannou is a mismatch and is nowhere near the quality of Prograis-Haney but Fury has a huge fanbase and Ngannou might have the backing of the huge MMA community.

Yes, just to be fair with Haney, if he fights Prograis, he should be considered the A-side as he has been fighting good to great boxers and beating them. However, Prograis, may not ring a bell for casual fans, but if you check his record, he is a very good boxer as well and a KO artist and he almost beat the last unified 140 lbs champion in Josh Taylor.

And that's what make this fight exciting for us, a KO artist in Prograis and then Haney using his defense to his advantage and maybe beat Prograis with that kind of strategy and not allowing himself to get hit by the power of Regis here. But this should be at least fair for Regis to also get a good money in the purse split as he had the belt here.

Agree. So the A-side here is the challenger. I haven't fully watched the Taylor-Prograis unification fight but the stats are actually favoring Prograis slightly. Prograis keeps talking about wanting a rematch against Taylor or a fight with Ramirez yet he made the opposite move by refusing Top Rank's bigger offer and went to Matchroom.

I wonder if this fight is still a go. I hope this fight goes on. I want to see how Haney fares against a proven champion at 140 while I am also eager to see if Prograis still has it or if he is already declining as seen in his last fight.

[Japinat]

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.

The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

I actually understand why they wanted to move the date. But I think that is not actually necessary to be honest. I believe the Haney fight is going to be a good one anyway. And there is no reason for him to make such a fuss about changing the date.

Obviously, people are going to want to see the other fight. Tyson Fury versus Francis, those two are definitely much more popular. And also will be able to bring in a huge amount of money. Because we got the interest of two worlds, two sets of fans, in this fight.

I assume this fight is on pay-per-view as well. Devin Haney is paid millions of dollars per fight since his fight over Kambosos so I guess a million or two is not enough for him anymore. I remember when Eddie Hearn upon knowing Haney's promotional contract with Top Rank expired mentioned that he is becoming an expensive fighter and that he might not afford his services anymore. So it simply means that his fights are going to be on PPV.

Devin Haney is popular only to hardcore fans and while Prograis is a KO artist, he doesn't have a huge fanbase as well. Fury-Ngannou is a mismatch and is nowhere near the quality of Prograis-Haney but Fury has a huge fanbase and Ngannou might have the backing of the huge MMA community.

Yes, just to be fair with Haney, if he fights Prograis, he should be considered the A-side as he has been fighting good to great boxers and beating them. However, Prograis, may not ring a bell for casual fans, but if you check his record, he is a very good boxer as well and a KO artist and he almost beat the last unified 140 lbs champion in Josh Taylor.

And that's what make this fight exciting for us, a KO artist in Prograis and then Haney using his defense to his advantage and maybe beat Prograis with that kind of strategy and not allowing himself to get hit by the power of Regis here. But this should be at least fair for Regis to also get a good money in the purse split as he had the belt here.

Agree. So the A-side here is the challenger. I haven't fully watched the Taylor-Prograis unification fight but the stats are actually favoring Prograis slightly. Prograis keeps talking about wanting a rematch against Taylor or a fight with Ramirez yet he made the opposite move by refusing Top Rank's bigger offer and went to Matchroom.

I wonder if this fight is still a go. I hope this fight goes on. I want to see how Haney fares against a proven champion at 140 while I am also eager to see if Prograis still has it or if he is already declining as seen in his last fight.

I don't know why as well on why the rematch between Prograis and Taylor didn't materialized, or was there even a discussion about it? Anyway, if I'm correct, the later isn't having anymore of it as he might've though that his chapter against Prograis is already finish and there's nothing to prove anymore.

Now that Prograis is going to be challenged by an undisputed champion from 135, I bet he's thrilled by it specially after the fact that there are lots of fans thinking that he might lose this one because even if Haney is not a heavy hitter unlike like him, the unified champion got another asset that is quite difficult to approach.

[Kemarit]

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.

The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

I actually understand why they wanted to move the date. But I think that is not actually necessary to be honest. I believe the Haney fight is going to be a good one anyway. And there is no reason for him to make such a fuss about changing the date.

Obviously, people are going to want to see the other fight. Tyson Fury versus Francis, those two are definitely much more popular. And also will be able to bring in a huge amount of money. Because we got the interest of two worlds, two sets of fans, in this fight.

I assume this fight is on pay-per-view as well. Devin Haney is paid millions of dollars per fight since his fight over Kambosos so I guess a million or two is not enough for him anymore. I remember when Eddie Hearn upon knowing Haney's promotional contract with Top Rank expired mentioned that he is becoming an expensive fighter and that he might not afford his services anymore. So it simply means that his fights are going to be on PPV.

Devin Haney is popular only to hardcore fans and while Prograis is a KO artist, he doesn't have a huge fanbase as well. Fury-Ngannou is a mismatch and is nowhere near the quality of Prograis-Haney but Fury has a huge fanbase and Ngannou might have the backing of the huge MMA community.

Yes, just to be fair with Haney, if he fights Prograis, he should be considered the A-side as he has been fighting good to great boxers and beating them. However, Prograis, may not ring a bell for casual fans, but if you check his record, he is a very good boxer as well and a KO artist and he almost beat the last unified 140 lbs champion in Josh Taylor.

And that's what make this fight exciting for us, a KO artist in Prograis and then Haney using his defense to his advantage and maybe beat Prograis with that kind of strategy and not allowing himself to get hit by the power of Regis here. But this should be at least fair for Regis to also get a good money in the purse split as he had the belt here.

Agree. So the A-side here is the challenger. I haven't fully watched the Taylor-Prograis unification fight but the stats are actually favoring Prograis slightly. Prograis keeps talking about wanting a rematch against Taylor or a fight with Ramirez yet he made the opposite move by refusing Top Rank's bigger offer and went to Matchroom.

I wonder if this fight is still a go. I hope this fight goes on. I want to see how Haney fares against a proven champion at 140 while I am also eager to see if Prograis still has it or if he is already declining as seen in his last fight.

I don't know why as well on why the rematch between Prograis and Taylor didn't materialized, or was there even a discussion about it? Anyway, if I'm correct, the later isn't having anymore of it as he might've though that his chapter against Prograis is already finish and there's nothing to prove anymore.

Now that Prograis is going to be challenged by an undisputed champion from 135, I bet he's thrilled by it specially after the fact that there are lots of fans thinking that he might lose this one because even if Haney is not a heavy hitter unlike like him, the unified champion got another asset that is quite difficult to approach.

It's because Taylor chasing that other belts as well, so he didn't get to rematch Regis, but fight Ramirez to get the last of the belts, thus declaring him the unified champion. Then take a break and then fought Catterall, supposedly easy fight for him, but it was the other way around as he almost lost that fight. So there were news of a rematch, then he got injured pulled it off (maybe a clear duck).
But then make the wrong move of fighting a fellow Top Rank fighter (Prograis as you have said goes to Matchroom, so the rematch is scratch), in Lopez and soundly beaten. So there are reports now that he wanted to move to 147 lbs in his next fight.

[Japinat]

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.

The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

I actually understand why they wanted to move the date. But I think that is not actually necessary to be honest. I believe the Haney fight is going to be a good one anyway. And there is no reason for him to make such a fuss about changing the date.

Obviously, people are going to want to see the other fight. Tyson Fury versus Francis, those two are definitely much more popular. And also will be able to bring in a huge amount of money. Because we got the interest of two worlds, two sets of fans, in this fight.

I assume this fight is on pay-per-view as well. Devin Haney is paid millions of dollars per fight since his fight over Kambosos so I guess a million or two is not enough for him anymore. I remember when Eddie Hearn upon knowing Haney's promotional contract with Top Rank expired mentioned that he is becoming an expensive fighter and that he might not afford his services anymore. So it simply means that his fights are going to be on PPV.

Devin Haney is popular only to hardcore fans and while Prograis is a KO artist, he doesn't have a huge fanbase as well. Fury-Ngannou is a mismatch and is nowhere near the quality of Prograis-Haney but Fury has a huge fanbase and Ngannou might have the backing of the huge MMA community.

Yes, just to be fair with Haney, if he fights Prograis, he should be considered the A-side as he has been fighting good to great boxers and beating them. However, Prograis, may not ring a bell for casual fans, but if you check his record, he is a very good boxer as well and a KO artist and he almost beat the last unified 140 lbs champion in Josh Taylor.

And that's what make this fight exciting for us, a KO artist in Prograis and then Haney using his defense to his advantage and maybe beat Prograis with that kind of strategy and not allowing himself to get hit by the power of Regis here. But this should be at least fair for Regis to also get a good money in the purse split as he had the belt here.

Agree. So the A-side here is the challenger. I haven't fully watched the Taylor-Prograis unification fight but the stats are actually favoring Prograis slightly. Prograis keeps talking about wanting a rematch against Taylor or a fight with Ramirez yet he made the opposite move by refusing Top Rank's bigger offer and went to Matchroom.

I wonder if this fight is still a go. I hope this fight goes on. I want to see how Haney fares against a proven champion at 140 while I am also eager to see if Prograis still has it or if he is already declining as seen in his last fight.

I don't know why as well on why the rematch between Prograis and Taylor didn't materialized, or was there even a discussion about it? Anyway, if I'm correct, the later isn't having anymore of it as he might've though that his chapter against Prograis is already finish and there's nothing to prove anymore.

Now that Prograis is going to be challenged by an undisputed champion from 135, I bet he's thrilled by it specially after the fact that there are lots of fans thinking that he might lose this one because even if Haney is not a heavy hitter unlike like him, the unified champion got another asset that is quite difficult to approach.

It's because Taylor chasing that other belts as well, so he didn't get to rematch Regis, but fight Ramirez to get the last of the belts, thus declaring him the unified champion. Then take a break and then fought Catterall, supposedly easy fight for him, but it was the other way around as he almost lost that fight. So there were news of a rematch, then he got injured pulled it off (maybe a clear duck).
But then make the wrong move of fighting a fellow Top Rank fighter (Prograis as you have said goes to Matchroom, so the rematch is scratch), in Lopez and soundly beaten. So there are reports now that he wanted to move to 147 lbs in his next fight.

He might but there are still no clear indications that Taylor is indeed that inclined to climb the next weight class, which gave me some thinking that he might seek a redemption fight first or a rematch versus Lopez instead before exiting his present weight class. Who knows, but as of now, there are still no reports.

Going back to the discussion, is the date still the same or it was moved to a much earlier date? Because that was the issue and Regis lashed it out on the social media so that the people will know what Team Haney is trying to do.

[Kemarit]

^^ Well you can read it here, Josh Taylor planning to move up in weight class after losing welterweight unbeaten record.

Josh Taylor spoke about moving up to welterweight imminently after suffering the first defeat of his career to Teofimo Lopez in New York on Saturday night.

The 32-year-old Scot started the defence of his WBO and Ring Magazine super-lightweight titles at The Theater at Madison Square Garden looking like he had the measure of his Brooklyn opponent.

He doesn't have to prove anything at 140 lbs already, he has unified the belt but after that he has been struggling to make that weight. So obviously, it's the right decision for him and his camp to move up in weight class. And in the past he also said that he has sparred Ugas, who is a big 147 lbs and it went find. So definitely, I believed that the next time he will fight, he will go up to welterweight.

As for the update on the fight, we haven't heard any, and if I remember it correctly, this fight is happening around October-November time-frame.

[inthelongrun]

^^ Well you can read it here, Josh Taylor planning to move up in weight class after losing welterweight unbeaten record.

Josh Taylor spoke about moving up to welterweight imminently after suffering the first defeat of his career to Teofimo Lopez in New York on Saturday night.

The 32-year-old Scot started the defence of his WBO and Ring Magazine super-lightweight titles at The Theater at Madison Square Garden looking like he had the measure of his Brooklyn opponent.

He doesn't have to prove anything at 140 lbs already, he has unified the belt but after that he has been struggling to make that weight. So obviously, it's the right decision for him and his camp to move up in weight class. And in the past he also said that he has sparred Ugas, who is a big 147 lbs and it went find. So definitely, I believed that the next time he will fight, he will go up to welterweight.

As for the update on the fight, we haven't heard any, and if I remember it correctly, this fight is happening around October-November time-frame.

Yeah, Josh Taylor should've just moved up even before. So he ended up being injured again and inactive which benefitted Teofimo Lopez. For me, he looked like a fighter without motivation anymore. We'll see if he can still show something impressive in his 147 debut because I don't see the fire in him anymore.

As for this fight, I don't know what's the fuss on Haney wanting an earlier date. Why not just do it in the middle of November something to give Prograis enough time to prepare? Haney is still very young but he is becoming like a b1tch already trying to exploit his opponents. As if he is not boring to watch.