Boxing: Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney (9th of December)

[inthelongrun]

This news is already circulating and reliable sources are telling that the undisputed lightweight champion Devin Haney already agreed to move up in weight to challenge super-lightweight champion Regis Prograis this coming October 28 in Las Vegas, Nevada. This is another big fight coming up and the young Devin Haney finally gets his wish to move up since there were issues already in the past that he is killing himself to make the lightweight weight. He will be tested against the 2-time champion and heavy-handed Regis Prograis.

There is a lot of drama in Haney's situation though as most fans and even the stats are saying Vassily Lomachenko beats him and deserves an immediate rematch. There's also the WBC's mandatory for him to face 2 division champion, Shakur Stevenson. And lastly, Top Rank's offer for Haney to face the biggest name at the junior welterweight, the lineal and WBO champion Teofimo Lopez. More updates soon if Haney will be stripped of his belts at 135 as he wanted to keep them while testing the waters at super lightweight.

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[Natalim]

With this news, it would mean Shakur and Loma have a decent chance of happening. Haney moving up seems to be the right decision; his body structure is capable of battling in the higher weight class, and I really think his chance of winning is high.

After witnessing one of the biggest fights today, we will soon witness Haney trying to challenge Prograis and steal the belt. This is a good move for him, so people will stop talking about the rematch against Loma due to the controversial decision.

The present champion, Regis Prograis, has an impressive record as well. Although he is not an undefeated boxer, his KO rate is high—24 out of 29 fights, which is equivalent to an 82.7% KO rate. I hope he will be as quick as Haney so he will be able to hit him and use that high KO rate to his advantage.

Regis Prograis record.

[coin-investor]

After beating Haney, a lot of great things are happening now for Haney just a few years ago he was trying to get a match against Ryan Garcia who keeps alluding to him, now he has achieved a lot more than what Ryan Garcia achieved and now he is moving up to challenge super-lightweight champion Regis Prograis.

It's another challenge for him, and Prograis will give him a tough fight but still, I see Haney winning this fight via unanimous decision because he is a more polished fighter than Prograis, Porgrais is a strong puncher but Haney is highly technical and has a good ring generalship.

[YOSHIE]

My assessment, if the fist between Devin Haney vs. Regis Prograis is really happening next October, in my opinion Devin has made a good decision for choosing to challenge Regis I'm sure many Devin and Regis fans agree they showed who is the strongest of them both in the ring.

I often see Devin Haney in the ring, so he is called the king of lightweight boxing, almost all the belts he has, in terms of age, maybe they are both very different, 24 years and 34 years, but that was not an obstacle for both of them to show their best in the ring, overall their records were not much different from 30 and 29, by winning 15 and 24 knockouts. despite the different ages.

I personally fist between Devin vs. Regis and I predict this boxing will be won by Devin, I'm sure he will win the WBC title this time. no real reason for me, just looking at the situation and luck.

[Maslate]

With this news, it would mean Shakur and Loma have a decent chance of happening. Haney moving up seems to be the right decision; his body structure is capable of battling in the higher weight class, and I really think his chance of winning is high.

Not so fast because Devin Haney is making sure that he still has his belts whenever his campaign at 140 pounds will not be fruitful as they imagined it to be, no sense in underestimating the future opponent as well because aside from the fact that Prograis is not an easy opponent to fight, this will be his first fight too at 140, so let's expect that there will be some adjustments to be done first to make sure that he does have a chance.

Also, I think Shakur Stevenson is more interested in fighting Gervonta Davis because by making that bout, he has something to look forward to not Lomachenko who have nothing to offer to the young blood.

[bittraffic]

Prograis is a natural 140. He's one of the baddest in SLW. This would be a big challenge for Devin considering his fight against Loma who goes up to 135, practically a smaller fighter but almost defeated Devin. It was a robbery and the majority agreed with this claim.

But I think Devin made a good decision to move up since he is at risk in both weight classes. It's Either Shakur or Prograis so he chose Prograis.

[aioc]

The present champion, Regis Prograis, has an impressive record as well. Although he is not an undefeated boxer, his KO rate is high—24 out of 29 fights, which is equivalent to an 82.7% KO rate. I hope he will be as quick as Haney so he will be able to hit him and use that high KO rate to his advantage.

You can't beat what you can't hit, and Haney is so good at hitting his opponent without getting hit, after Mayweather he is the best defensive boxer now, and I believe he can beat Prograis even if Prograis has a high knock-out ratio, Haney has beaten a lot of great punchers by his technical skills I don't know who will be the favorite by experts here but this early he is my favorite to win by decision.

[Maslate]

The present champion, Regis Prograis, has an impressive record as well. Although he is not an undefeated boxer, his KO rate is high—24 out of 29 fights, which is equivalent to an 82.7% KO rate. I hope he will be as quick as Haney so he will be able to hit him and use that high KO rate to his advantage.

You can't beat what you can't hit, and Haney is so good at hitting his opponent without getting hit, after Mayweather he is the best defensive boxer now, and I believe he can beat Prograis even if Prograis has a high knock-out ratio, Haney has beaten a lot of great punchers by his technical skills I don't know who will be the favorite by experts here but this early he is my favorite to win by decision.

Too soon for that mate and we should be conscious about his present situation that he is not the one who is holding the division that he is looking forward to, Regis Prograis, shouldn't even be underestimated just because of the fact that Devin can hit a boxer with his excellent technicalities and being the best defensive boxer after Mayweather. Moreover, we should not forget the fact too where Lomachenko revealed some of his weaknesses on their recent fight and some are even going to argue that Loma won that fight.

[bisdak40]

The present champion, Regis Prograis, has an impressive record as well. Although he is not an undefeated boxer, his KO rate is high—24 out of 29 fights, which is equivalent to an 82.7% KO rate. I hope he will be as quick as Haney so he will be able to hit him and use that high KO rate to his advantage.

You can't beat what you can't hit, and Haney is so good at hitting his opponent without getting hit, after Mayweather he is the best defensive boxer now, and I believe he can beat Prograis even if Prograis has a high knock-out ratio, Haney has beaten a lot of great punchers by his technical skills I don't know who will be the favorite by experts here but this early he is my favorite to win by decision.

Exactly. This fight reminds me of Shakur Stevenson and Oscar Valdez, a counterpuncher versus a power puncher but those heavy hands could damage nothing if it hits nothing. Devin Haney is in his prime now and as a defensive boxer, his team is trying to pair him to big name boxers but beatable and Regis Prograis is one of those, no offense meant to his fans but that is what i see in this matchup.

[Yaunfitda]

The present champion, Regis Prograis, has an impressive record as well. Although he is not an undefeated boxer, his KO rate is high—24 out of 29 fights, which is equivalent to an 82.7% KO rate. I hope he will be as quick as Haney so he will be able to hit him and use that high KO rate to his advantage.

You can't beat what you can't hit, and Haney is so good at hitting his opponent without getting hit, after Mayweather he is the best defensive boxer now, and I believe he can beat Prograis even if Prograis has a high knock-out ratio, Haney has beaten a lot of great punchers by his technical skills I don't know who will be the favorite by experts here but this early he is my favorite to win by decision.

Exactly. This fight reminds me of Shakur Stevenson and Oscar Valdez, a counterpuncher versus a power puncher but those heavy hands could damage nothing if it hits nothing. Devin Haney is in his prime now and as a defensive boxer, his team is trying to pair him to big name boxers but beatable and Regis Prograis is one of those, no offense meant to his fans but that is what i see in this matchup.

But I think Regis is underrated, so I will give him some chance to pull a upset against Haney. Although Haney is in his prime, and so is Regis, and he has a tough lost against Taylor years ago.

But I think Regis will give a interesting and very competitive fight for Haney here. I think this could go on the judges score card and could be a very close decision, could be a split decision for Haney, but I wouldn't be surprised if Prograis do enough to pull an upset.

[Natalim]

The present champion, Regis Prograis, has an impressive record as well. Although he is not an undefeated boxer, his KO rate is high—24 out of 29 fights, which is equivalent to an 82.7% KO rate. I hope he will be as quick as Haney so he will be able to hit him and use that high KO rate to his advantage.

You can't beat what you can't hit, and Haney is so good at hitting his opponent without getting hit, after Mayweather he is the best defensive boxer now, and I believe he can beat Prograis even if Prograis has a high knock-out ratio, Haney has beaten a lot of great punchers by his technical skills I don't know who will be the favorite by experts here but this early he is my favorite to win by decision.

Honestly, I don't think he is even close to the skills of Mayweather. Maybe he is also quick, but not as smart as Mayweather. Eventually, he will face a boxer who could exploit his weaknesses, resulting in his first loss. Regis Prograis could be that opponent if he manages to land hits on Haney or if Haney decides to go toe to toe. That might be the only time we see Haney in trouble.

Regis Prograis is a champion who isn't as popular as Haney, so most likely Haney will secure another win here. However, as a fan, it would be nice to see an entertaining fight because that's the only way we, as fans, will be fulfilled.

[btc_angela]

The present champion, Regis Prograis, has an impressive record as well. Although he is not an undefeated boxer, his KO rate is high—24 out of 29 fights, which is equivalent to an 82.7% KO rate. I hope he will be as quick as Haney so he will be able to hit him and use that high KO rate to his advantage.

You can't beat what you can't hit, and Haney is so good at hitting his opponent without getting hit, after Mayweather he is the best defensive boxer now, and I believe he can beat Prograis even if Prograis has a high knock-out ratio, Haney has beaten a lot of great punchers by his technical skills I don't know who will be the favorite by experts here but this early he is my favorite to win by decision.

Exactly. This fight reminds me of Shakur Stevenson and Oscar Valdez, a counterpuncher versus a power puncher but those heavy hands could damage nothing if it hits nothing. Devin Haney is in his prime now and as a defensive boxer, his team is trying to pair him to big name boxers but beatable and Regis Prograis is one of those, no offense meant to his fans but that is what i see in this matchup.

But Valdez is the smaller guy when he fought Shakur. In this case, it was Haney who is going up in rank and to be honest, I think Haney's body is more of a 140 lbs - even welterweight of 147 lbs.

However, we know how defensive Haney is, and if Prograis try to be the aggressor, I think it will be like Haney against Kambosos. Wherein Haney will have the upper hand as he will do the counter all night long. The only chance that Prograis is to hit Haney flush to win by ko as Haney doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

[inthelongrun]

My assessment, if the fist between Devin Haney vs. Regis Prograis is really happening next October, in my opinion Devin has made a good decision for choosing to challenge Regis I'm sure many Devin and Regis fans agree they showed who is the strongest of them both in the ring.

I often see Devin Haney in the ring, so he is called the king of lightweight boxing, almost all the belts he has, in terms of age, maybe they are both very different, 24 years and 34 years, but that was not an obstacle for both of them to show their best in the ring, overall their records were not much different from 30 and 29, by winning 15 and 24 knockouts. despite the different ages.

I personally fist between Devin vs. Regis and I predict this boxing will be won by Devin, I'm sure he will win the WBC title this time. no real reason for me, just looking at the situation and luck.

Unless Haney is heading to PBC wherein the easiest champion to beat in Rollie Romero (WBA) resides, Prograis(WBC) is the next easiest based on his previous poor performance. Matchroom and DAZN though are keen on getting Haney back into their side while I highly doubt PBC will allow someone to beat their champion who's been loyal to them for many years.

Money-wise and legacy-wise though, Top Rank's offer for Haney to face the lineal champion Teofimo Lopez (The Ring & WBO) is the best choice. Either Haney is mad at Bob Arum or he just wants to get rid of the biggest names of 135 and 140 like Lomachenko, Shakur, Teofimo, etc. who are all under Top Rank.

Somehow, I want Regis Prograis to land his heavy hands-on Haney and score an upset. This is better for boxing rather than young Haney who already ducked a Loma rematch, a mandatory from Shakur and Top Rank's best offer for him to face the lineal 140 champion Teofimo Lopez.

[coin-investor]

However, we know how defensive Haney is, and if Prograis try to be the aggressor, I think it will be like Haney against Kambosos. Wherein Haney will have the upper hand as he will do the counter all night long. The only chance that Prograis is to hit Haney flush to win by ko as Haney doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

Good defense and timing in counterpunching are the best defense against a strong puncher Haney is so good at frustrating his opponent and accumulating points, that Prograis should find a way to get his punches in.

Haney is a boring fighter like Mayweather but his style gets the nod of the judges, judges score on hits and defense and that's what happens in his encounter against Kambosos, he cannot avoid Haney's counterpunching, I don't think Prograis is the fighter that will handle Haney's first loss.
 

[Kelvinid]

However, we know how defensive Haney is, and if Prograis try to be the aggressor, I think it will be like Haney against Kambosos. Wherein Haney will have the upper hand as he will do the counter all night long. The only chance that Prograis is to hit Haney flush to win by ko as Haney doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

Good defense and timing in counterpunching are the best defense against a strong puncher Haney is so good at frustrating his opponent and accumulating points, that Prograis should find a way to get his punches in.

Haney is a boring fighter like Mayweather but his style gets the nod of the judges, judges score on hits and defense and that's what happens in his encounter against Kambosos, he cannot avoid Haney's counterpunching, I don't think Prograis is the fighter that will handle Haney's first loss.
 

That's just how he fights, and we have to accept it because it makes him effective in boxing. He may be considered boring, no question about that, but as long as he keeps winning, he will undoubtedly have more fights to come and more money to earn. Let's hope that he will have a good match with Regis Prograis, now that he is the challenger. If he wants to win convincingly, he needs to be more convincing in the ring, as we don't want to see a controversial fight like his previous one where some people thought he lost to Lomachenko.

[laurenB7742]

However, we know how defensive Haney is, and if Prograis try to be the aggressor, I think it will be like Haney against Kambosos. Wherein Haney will have the upper hand as he will do the counter all night long. The only chance that Prograis is to hit Haney flush to win by ko as Haney doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

Good defense and timing in counterpunching are the best defense against a strong puncher Haney is so good at frustrating his opponent and accumulating points, that Prograis should find a way to get his punches in.

Haney is a boring fighter like Mayweather but his style gets the nod of the judges, judges score on hits and defense and that's what happens in his encounter against Kambosos, he cannot avoid Haney's counterpunching, I don't think Prograis is the fighter that will handle Haney's first loss.
 

That's just how he fights, and we have to accept it because it makes him effective in boxing. He may be considered boring, no question about that, but as long as he keeps winning, he will undoubtedly have more fights to come and more money to earn. Let's hope that he will have a good match with Regis Prograis, now that he is the challenger. If he wants to win convincingly, he needs to be more convincing in the ring, as we don't want to see a controversial fight like his previous one where some people thought he lost to Lomachenko.

First of all, I think a fighter who punches with his 100% is not a good fighter. There is a big difference between a good puncher and a hard/strong puncher. The expertise of a fighter lies not in putting 100% power behind his punches because that is going to throw him off balance and also might potentially screw up his defensive position.

I don’t have any problem with a fighter being aggressive or defensive. We have seen aggressive fighter like Mike Tyson being one of the best at that time and we have also seen Floyd Mayweather who is definitely quite defensive to be one of the best in this era as well.

I think the fighters also have to remember that the Challenger must do well to claim the win. If there is a chance of the fight being almost even equal, the Challenger is not going to get the win. Because in most cases, the Challenger does not get the benefit of the doubt.

[Maslate]

However, we know how defensive Haney is, and if Prograis try to be the aggressor, I think it will be like Haney against Kambosos. Wherein Haney will have the upper hand as he will do the counter all night long. The only chance that Prograis is to hit Haney flush to win by ko as Haney doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

Good defense and timing in counterpunching are the best defense against a strong puncher Haney is so good at frustrating his opponent and accumulating points, that Prograis should find a way to get his punches in.

Haney is a boring fighter like Mayweather but his style gets the nod of the judges, judges score on hits and defense and that's what happens in his encounter against Kambosos, he cannot avoid Haney's counterpunching, I don't think Prograis is the fighter that will handle Haney's first loss.
 

That's just how he fights, and we have to accept it because it makes him effective in boxing. He may be considered boring, no question about that, but as long as he keeps winning, he will undoubtedly have more fights to come and more money to earn. Let's hope that he will have a good match with Regis Prograis, now that he is the challenger. If he wants to win convincingly, he needs to be more convincing in the ring, as we don't want to see a controversial fight like his previous one where some people thought he lost to Lomachenko.

Agreed. I don't think that in the first place Haney is interested to make the fans entertained because if he will do that, that might be his first loss in his professional career because he is not that kind of boxer that can entertain the audience by doing something out of his character. He is only there to win and nothing else, after that, fame and money will follow because that is the most important factors in this day of age. Boxers will try to destroy him because of his position now but that is not an easy job to do.

[inthelongrun]

Weird. We have more votes for the defending champion Regis Prograis rather than the undisputed champion Devin Haney. Do you guys want to see Devin Haney lose or do you just believe that Regis lands his powerful punches?

I am bored with Haney's fighting style and he is supposed to lose against Loma. Now he is avoiding a Loma rematch, avoided his mandatory on Shakur, and avoided the real lineal champ at 140, Teofimo Lopez.

Regis had a bad night in his last fight and if he performs the same way again, Haney will have an easy time outboxing him. Still, I believe Regis knows he needs to perform better this time. I won't be surprised if he hits Haney with his signature awkward but powerful punches, this is the only way to beat Haney. If he cannot hurt Haney then he will lose his belt.

[bisdak40]

Weird. We have more votes for the defending champion Regis Prograis rather than the undisputed champion Devin Haney. Do you guys want to see Devin Haney lose or do you just believe that Regis lands his powerful punches?

I am bored with Haney's fighting style and he is supposed to lose against Loma. Now he is avoiding a Loma rematch, avoided his mandatory on Shakur, and avoided the real lineal champ at 140, Teofimo Lopez.

Regis had a bad night in his last fight and if he performs the same way again, Haney will have an easy time outboxing him. Still, I believe Regis knows he needs to perform better this time. I won't be surprised if he hits Haney with his signature awkward but powerful punches, this is the only way to beat Haney. If he cannot hurt Haney then he will lose his belt.

Hahaha. I remember that you call Haney an email champion, don't know the reason why but seems you don't like him or his fighting style.

Of the three (Prograis, Loma and Shakur), it is Prograis for me is the weakest and beatable, maybe that's the reason why they took this fight. This could be a clinching feast for Haney to avoid those awkward punches that Prograis may threw. If Regis could not knockout Haney, he will lose in points as Haney may outpoints him through his jabs. Jab, jab and clinch, Haney's game plan lol.

I've read an article that Shakur and Loma are mandated by the WBC to fight for the championship belt so this means that Haney is being strip of this version of this belt.

[Kemarit]

Weird. We have more votes for the defending champion Regis Prograis rather than the undisputed champion Devin Haney. Do you guys want to see Devin Haney lose or do you just believe that Regis lands his powerful punches?

I guess fans wanted to see Haney fight, he had established himself as sort of Floyd Mayweather now. He is love but at the same time, many fans wanted him to lose and getting knockout, and as you have said, his fighting style is bored and that fans view that Loma won against him.

Regis had a bad night in his last fight and if he performs the same way again, Haney will have an easy time outboxing him. Still, I believe Regis knows he needs to perform better this time. I won't be surprised if he hits Haney with his signature awkward but powerful punches, this is the only way to beat Haney. If he cannot hurt Haney then he will lose his belt.

But he is the bigger puncher of the two. So if by chance one bombs land on Haney's chin, then maybe he will have a good chance to beat and let Haney taste the canvass for good. And Haney is technical, if he fought a awkward style like Regis has, it won't be that effective.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Weird. We have more votes for the defending champion Regis Prograis rather than the undisputed champion Devin Haney. Do you guys want to see Devin Haney lose or do you just believe that Regis lands his powerful punches?

I am bored with Haney's fighting style and he is supposed to lose against Loma. Now he is avoiding a Loma rematch, avoided his mandatory on Shakur, and avoided the real lineal champ at 140, Teofimo Lopez.

Regis had a bad night in his last fight and if he performs the same way again, Haney will have an easy time outboxing him. Still, I believe Regis knows he needs to perform better this time. I won't be surprised if he hits Haney with his signature awkward but powerful punches, this is the only way to beat Haney. If he cannot hurt Haney then he will lose his belt.

Hahaha. I remember that you call Haney an email champion, don't know the reason why but seems you don't like him or his fighting style.

Of the three (Prograis, Loma and Shakur), it is Prograis for me is the weakest and beatable, maybe that's the reason why they took this fight. This could be a clinching feast for Haney to avoid those awkward punches that Prograis may threw. If Regis could not knockout Haney, he will lose in points as Haney may outpoints him through his jabs. Jab, jab and clinch, Haney's game plan lol.

I've read an article that Shakur and Loma are mandated by the WBC to fight for the championship belt so this means that Haney is being strip of this version of this belt.

I'm not really sure if Prograis is the easiest, but if we look at the 140 lbs landscape, Regis could be one of the toughest champion that we have right now. He had a good fight against Josh Taylor and really put Taylor at bay but he lost a close decision, 114-114, 115-113, and 117-112.

So he is underrated at 140 lbs, maybe Haney Sr thinks it's going to be an easy fight for his son. But this is different league, against Kambosos and Loma he has the height and reach advantage but not in 140 lbs as there are good and bigger puncher than him obviously at this weight class.

[bisdak40]

Weird. We have more votes for the defending champion Regis Prograis rather than the undisputed champion Devin Haney. Do you guys want to see Devin Haney lose or do you just believe that Regis lands his powerful punches?

I am bored with Haney's fighting style and he is supposed to lose against Loma. Now he is avoiding a Loma rematch, avoided his mandatory on Shakur, and avoided the real lineal champ at 140, Teofimo Lopez.

Regis had a bad night in his last fight and if he performs the same way again, Haney will have an easy time outboxing him. Still, I believe Regis knows he needs to perform better this time. I won't be surprised if he hits Haney with his signature awkward but powerful punches, this is the only way to beat Haney. If he cannot hurt Haney then he will lose his belt.

Hahaha. I remember that you call Haney an email champion, don't know the reason why but seems you don't like him or his fighting style.

Of the three (Prograis, Loma and Shakur), it is Prograis for me is the weakest and beatable, maybe that's the reason why they took this fight. This could be a clinching feast for Haney to avoid those awkward punches that Prograis may threw. If Regis could not knockout Haney, he will lose in points as Haney may outpoints him through his jabs. Jab, jab and clinch, Haney's game plan lol.

I've read an article that Shakur and Loma are mandated by the WBC to fight for the championship belt so this means that Haney is being strip of this version of this belt.

I'm not really sure if Prograis is the easiest, but if we look at the 140 lbs landscape, Regis could be one of the toughest champion that we have right now. He had a good fight against Josh Taylor and really put Taylor at bay but he lost a close decision, 114-114, 115-113, and 117-112.

So he is underrated at 140 lbs, maybe Haney Sr thinks it's going to be an easy fight for his son. But this is different league, against Kambosos and Loma he has the height and reach advantage but not in 140 lbs as there are good and bigger puncher than him obviously at this weight class.

Easiest in the sense that Prograis is the slowest among the three though he hit hard but I think Haney is quicker than Prograis so hitting him is not an easy thing to do plus the fact that whenever Prograis has the advantage, Haney will clinch. The only thing that could slow down Haney if he will be hit early on but i doubt it and yeah this is an interesting fight for Haney as he have to fight the best hereon.

[robelneo]

There is a lot of drama in Haney's situation though as most fans and even the stats are saying Vassily Lomachenko beats him and deserves an immediate rematch. There's also the WBC's mandatory for him to face 2 division champion, Shakur Stevenson. And lastly, Top Rank's offer for Haney to face the biggest name at the junior welterweight, the lineal and WBO champion Teofimo Lopez. More updates soon if Haney will be stripped of his belts at 135 as he wanted to keep them while testing the waters at super lightweight.

So many opportunities for Haney after that controversial win against Lomachenko but all the opportunities that are coming his way, cannot convert to multi-million dollar mega fights like the recent Garcia- Davis and the Crawford - Spence, his coming fight against Regis Prograis if it pulls through can be considered as one of those fights unless he gets Ryan Garcia or Tank Davis, he needs legacy fight that will establish himself as a superstar and he should go for much bigger than Prograis, Shakur is also a good legacy that will attract big money.

[cabron]

There is a lot of drama in Haney's situation though as most fans and even the stats are saying Vassily Lomachenko beats him and deserves an immediate rematch. There's also the WBC's mandatory for him to face 2 division champion, Shakur Stevenson. And lastly, Top Rank's offer for Haney to face the biggest name at the junior welterweight, the lineal and WBO champion Teofimo Lopez. More updates soon if Haney will be stripped of his belts at 135 as he wanted to keep them while testing the waters at super lightweight.

So many opportunities for Haney after that controversial win against Lomachenko but all the opportunities that are coming his way, cannot convert to multi-million dollar mega fights like the recent Garcia- Davis and the Crawford - Spence, his coming fight against Regis Prograis if it pulls through can be considered as one of those fights unless he gets Ryan Garcia or Tank Davis, he needs legacy fight that will establish himself as a superstar and he should go for much bigger than Prograis, Shakur is also a good legacy that will attract big money.

If he wants legacy he'd already book Loma to prove himself and fans will assume he is ducking Loma. Shakur also is not an easy fight for him. But because he chose to move to SLW to fight the bogeyman in the division, that makes him tougher negating that ducking Loma fanbois claim but this is if he succeeds. Prograis is tough.  

If indeed Prograis will have a hard time fighting an opponent with long reach just as Hearn said, Devin might just be lucky.

[Maslate]

Weird. We have more votes for the defending champion Regis Prograis rather than the undisputed champion Devin Haney. Do you guys want to see Devin Haney lose or do you just believe that Regis lands his powerful punches?

I am bored with Haney's fighting style and he is supposed to lose against Loma. Now he is avoiding a Loma rematch, avoided his mandatory on Shakur, and avoided the real lineal champ at 140, Teofimo Lopez.

Regis had a bad night in his last fight and if he performs the same way again, Haney will have an easy time outboxing him. Still, I believe Regis knows he needs to perform better this time. I won't be surprised if he hits Haney with his signature awkward but powerful punches, this is the only way to beat Haney. If he cannot hurt Haney then he will lose his belt.

It's somehow debatable that is why we are seeing a mixed votes between the two champions, but for me, I chose Regis Prograis to win by a way of KO/TKO. I know that Haney does have an impressive style specially in his defense and counter punches but he doesn't have that much power to KO an opponent and certainly I don't believe that he can do it against Regis which is also an experienced boxer and had the same bouts as him. Now if Regis can utilize his power and speed, I think he got more chances in this fight compared to the upcoming challenger, Devin Haney.

[Yaunfitda]

Weird. We have more votes for the defending champion Regis Prograis rather than the undisputed champion Devin Haney. Do you guys want to see Devin Haney lose or do you just believe that Regis lands his powerful punches?

I am bored with Haney's fighting style and he is supposed to lose against Loma. Now he is avoiding a Loma rematch, avoided his mandatory on Shakur, and avoided the real lineal champ at 140, Teofimo Lopez.

Regis had a bad night in his last fight and if he performs the same way again, Haney will have an easy time outboxing him. Still, I believe Regis knows he needs to perform better this time. I won't be surprised if he hits Haney with his signature awkward but powerful punches, this is the only way to beat Haney. If he cannot hurt Haney then he will lose his belt.

It's somehow debatable that is why we are seeing a mixed votes between the two champions, but for me, I chose Regis Prograis to win by a way of KO/TKO. I know that Haney does have an impressive style specially in his defense and counter punches but he doesn't have that much power to KO an opponent and certainly I don't believe that he can do it against Regis which is also an experienced boxer and had the same bouts as him. Now if Regis can utilize his power and speed, I think he got more chances in this fight compared to the upcoming challenger, Devin Haney.

Yes, he has developed a defensive style to hide his weakness, and that is he doesn't have a punching power. And he had it like that for sure that Loma wasn't able to hit him flush that's why the fight was so close. Against George Kambosos style too, he plays defense and Kambosos wasn't able to close that gap and he had a hard time finding his range against a long Haney.

But with Regis, they are almost all even, and then Prograis has the power advantage. Maybe Haney defense will be in display again, but what if there Regis touch that glass chin of Haney? So we wanted to see that and how Haney will respond and also how Regis will follow up on that one.

[inthelongrun]

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Hahaha. I remember that you call Haney an email champion, don't know the reason why but seems you don't like him or his fighting style.

I called Haney an email champion before because he won his WBC belt thru email and not inside the ring. He was emailed by the WBC that he was elevated from interim champion to full WBC champion. This happened when the corrupt WBC tried to convince the boxing community that its new title called WBC Franchise is a legit title awarded to fighters that accomplished a lot. Then middleweight lineal and unified champion Canelo Alvarez was its first holder and then later it was also awarded to then lineal and unified champion Vasily Lomachenko. So Loma was elevated as a Franchise champion and then Haney was emailed as its new WBC regular champion.

It's a blessing in disguise though, the boxing community didn't consider the Franchise champion as the real WBC belt. So loud-mouthed Teofimo Lopez who was supposed to become undisputed after defeating Loma was never recognized by the boxing community since it considered Haney as the WBC's real champion. It's the same reason why Kambosos after beating Lopez unified his belts against Haney to determine the real undisputed champion.

It was the same situation when another corrupt sanctioning body the WBA created the WBA Super belt for WBA regular champions who successfully unified their belts with other champions (WBC/IBF/WBO). It still existed today but the boxing community only considers a WBA regular holder as the real champion if there is no WBA Super holder in the same division. That is why Tank Davis is a fake WBA champion because Haney is the WBA Super champion.   

[Kelvinid]

However, we know how defensive Haney is, and if Prograis try to be the aggressor, I think it will be like Haney against Kambosos. Wherein Haney will have the upper hand as he will do the counter all night long. The only chance that Prograis is to hit Haney flush to win by ko as Haney doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

Good defense and timing in counterpunching are the best defense against a strong puncher Haney is so good at frustrating his opponent and accumulating points, that Prograis should find a way to get his punches in.

Haney is a boring fighter like Mayweather but his style gets the nod of the judges, judges score on hits and defense and that's what happens in his encounter against Kambosos, he cannot avoid Haney's counterpunching, I don't think Prograis is the fighter that will handle Haney's first loss.
 

That's just how he fights, and we have to accept it because it makes him effective in boxing. He may be considered boring, no question about that, but as long as he keeps winning, he will undoubtedly have more fights to come and more money to earn. Let's hope that he will have a good match with Regis Prograis, now that he is the challenger. If he wants to win convincingly, he needs to be more convincing in the ring, as we don't want to see a controversial fight like his previous one where some people thought he lost to Lomachenko.

First of all, I think a fighter who punches with his 100% is not a good fighter. There is a big difference between a good puncher and a hard/strong puncher. The expertise of a fighter lies not in putting 100% power behind his punches because that is going to throw him off balance and also might potentially screw up his defensive position.

I don’t have any problem with a fighter being aggressive or defensive. We have seen aggressive fighter like Mike Tyson being one of the best at that time and we have also seen Floyd Mayweather who is definitely quite defensive to be one of the best in this era as well.

I think the fighters also have to remember that the Challenger must do well to claim the win. If there is a chance of the fight being almost even equal, the Challenger is not going to get the win. Because in most cases, the Challenger does not get the benefit of the doubt.

It's the strategy that matters, and we can conclude that Devin Haney knows the right strategy as he keeps winning. However, we cannot deny that fans would want to be entertained. They want to see the boxer they are leaning towards winning, and at the same time, they also would like to be entertained. When two boxers who have a reputation for being boring fighters in the ring face each other, that is not going to entertain the fans.

However, for Haney, I like his decision to move up as it's necessary for a considered great boxer to push his limits.

[Westinhome]

I called Haney an email champion before because he won his WBC belt thru email and not inside the ring. He was emailed by the WBC that he was elevated from interim champion to full WBC champion. This happened when the corrupt WBC tried to convince the boxing community that its new title called WBC Franchise is a legit title awarded to fighters that accomplished a lot. Then middleweight lineal and unified champion Canelo Alvarez was its first holder and then later it was also awarded to then lineal and unified champion Vasily Lomachenko. So Loma was elevated as a Franchise champion and then Haney was emailed as its new WBC regular champion.

It's a blessing in disguise though, the boxing community didn't consider the Franchise champion as the real WBC belt. So loud-mouthed Teofimo Lopez who was supposed to become undisputed after defeating Loma was never recognized by the boxing community since it considered Haney as the WBC's real champion. It's the same reason why Kambosos after beating Lopez unified his belts against Haney to determine the real undisputed champion.

It was the same situation when another corrupt sanctioning body the WBA created the WBA Super belt for WBA regular champions who successfully unified their belts with other champions (WBC/IBF/WBO). It still existed today but the boxing community only considers a WBA regular holder as the real champion if there is no WBA Super holder in the same division. That is why Tank Davis is a fake WBA champion because Haney is the WBA Super champion.   

Haney the email champion was the good name for him because of the WBC and your attack was real.Even my opinion was same on Haney for his action on the WBC Franchise.This controversy was accepted by most of the people in the boxing community.Now the boxing community was not agree with the WBC Franchise as the real championship and for the top order game.The most important reason behind this was the match fixing and the game which is almost all the time fixing by the WBC.Mostly on the game like Semi and Final matches.

[Russlenat]

However, we know how defensive Haney is, and if Prograis try to be the aggressor, I think it will be like Haney against Kambosos. Wherein Haney will have the upper hand as he will do the counter all night long. The only chance that Prograis is to hit Haney flush to win by ko as Haney doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

Good defense and timing in counterpunching are the best defense against a strong puncher Haney is so good at frustrating his opponent and accumulating points, that Prograis should find a way to get his punches in.

Haney is a boring fighter like Mayweather but his style gets the nod of the judges, judges score on hits and defense and that's what happens in his encounter against Kambosos, he cannot avoid Haney's counterpunching, I don't think Prograis is the fighter that will handle Haney's first loss.
 

That's just how he fights, and we have to accept it because it makes him effective in boxing. He may be considered boring, no question about that, but as long as he keeps winning, he will undoubtedly have more fights to come and more money to earn. Let's hope that he will have a good match with Regis Prograis, now that he is the challenger. If he wants to win convincingly, he needs to be more convincing in the ring, as we don't want to see a controversial fight like his previous one where some people thought he lost to Lomachenko.

First of all, I think a fighter who punches with his 100% is not a good fighter. There is a big difference between a good puncher and a hard/strong puncher. The expertise of a fighter lies not in putting 100% power behind his punches because that is going to throw him off balance and also might potentially screw up his defensive position.

I don’t have any problem with a fighter being aggressive or defensive. We have seen aggressive fighter like Mike Tyson being one of the best at that time and we have also seen Floyd Mayweather who is definitely quite defensive to be one of the best in this era as well.

I think the fighters also have to remember that the Challenger must do well to claim the win. If there is a chance of the fight being almost even equal, the Challenger is not going to get the win. Because in most cases, the Challenger does not get the benefit of the doubt.

It's the strategy that matters, and we can conclude that Devin Haney knows the right strategy as he keeps winning. However, we cannot deny that fans would want to be entertained. They want to see the boxer they are leaning towards winning, and at the same time, they also would like to be entertained. When two boxers who have a reputation for being boring fighters in the ring face each other, that is not going to entertain the fans.

However, for Haney, I like his decision to move up as it's necessary for a considered great boxer to push his limits.

But I think in this instance, the situation is a bit different because Haney will be moving into a hostile division. A weight class where he is not that accustomed yet whereas his opponent, Regis, who happens to be a champion as well is kind of accustomed to the weight already for he has been fighting in this division for I think almost a decade now.

Anyway, it's pretty much safe to say that we can see Haney's defensive capabilities again as that will always gives him an advantage towards anybody he faced and will face. Also, he got the reach advantage as well that will surely give some difficulties to Regis.

[inthelongrun]

Wow! Some big drama show here. So from being friendly and hospitable to something different. The Haney's are working underground and are trying to change the signed schedule into something earlier and that's what made the champion Regis Prograis mad. I cannot believe Devin at this young age is already trying to lowball his opponent. And I am glad that Regis is standing his ground and is sharing this with the public.

So Devin Haney after becoming undisputed all of a sudden is trying to exploit and avoid riskier opponents as much as possible. First, he does not want to give Lomachenko his well-deserved rematch. Then he offered a laughable 25% PPV share on Shakur, his WBC mandatory. He said he wants to move up in weight at the same time hostage all the belts at 135. He wants to move up in weight but he doesn't want to fight the new lineal champion of 140, Teofimo Lopez. He wanted the WBC champion Regis Prograis after its very poor performance in the last fight. And Devin is not yet satisfied so he wanted Regis to not take a full rest from his previous 12-round fight and forced him to a schedule with less training time. I hope this kid gets clipped.

Source: Regis Prograis Angry on Devin Haney

[aioc]

He wanted the WBC champion Regis Prograis after its very poor performance in the last fight. And Devin is not yet satisfied so he wanted Regis to not take a full rest from his previous 12-round fight and forced him to a schedule with less training time. I hope this kid gets clipped.

Source: Regis Prograis Angry on Devin Haney

He wants the easy route to win belts while making money at the same time, his promoters did not believe that he can take the like Shakur, Teofimo, and Gervonta he wants to protect is 0 and his title but eventually, he will have to face this guy because these guys will outshine him and the only way to establish his legacy is fighting these guys, so far among these big names he is the most underrated, Garcia I thought has the ball to take on Davis even if there's a dehydration clause.

[yazher]

Prograis is a natural 140. He's one of the baddest in SLW. This would be a big challenge for Devin considering his fight against Loma who goes up to 135, practically a smaller fighter but almost defeated Devin. It was a robbery and the majority agreed with this claim.

But I think Devin made a good decision to move up since he is at risk in both weight classes. It's Either Shakur or Prograis so he chose Prograis.

This won't be an easy fight for Devin Haney, but indeed he can find a way to give Prograis a hard time boxing against him, and there will be small chances of knocking him out. the best prediction would be reaching the official's scorecard, but I would like to see them not reaching that far because it would be boring since both of these guys are more than capable of knocking each other in the early rounds. Who knows, but in my prediction, it will surely be a knockout for Haney because of his vast experience compared to Prograis.

[Japinat]

Wow! Some big drama show here. So from being friendly and hospitable to something different. The Haney's are working underground and are trying to change the signed schedule into something earlier and that's what made the champion Regis Prograis mad. I cannot believe Devin at this young age is already trying to lowball his opponent. And I am glad that Regis is standing his ground and is sharing this with the public.

So Devin Haney after becoming undisputed all of a sudden is trying to exploit and avoid riskier opponents as much as possible. First, he does not want to give Lomachenko his well-deserved rematch. Then he offered a laughable 25% PPV share on Shakur, his WBC mandatory. He said he wants to move up in weight at the same time hostage all the belts at 135. He wants to move up in weight but he doesn't want to fight the new lineal champion of 140, Teofimo Lopez. He wanted the WBC champion Regis Prograis after its very poor performance in the last fight. And Devin is not yet satisfied so he wanted Regis to not take a full rest from his previous 12-round fight and forced him to a schedule with less training time. I hope this kid gets clipped.

Source: Regis Prograis Angry on Devin Haney

Another classic maneuver from Mayweather Jr.'s handbook, just like what Errol Spence Jr. did some time ago when he ducked Crawford for months and waited for quite some time before he decided to face him for the undisputed fight. Many excuses at that time too just like how Al Haymon and Spence convinced the sanctioning bodies to contest his mandatory title defense fight against Keith Thurman at 154 lbs. It was really unreasonable because how can he defend his titles at 154 if he doesn't have any belts in that weight class in the first place.

Now, I can see Devin Haney doing the very same thing or maybe much worse and just like what happened to Spence, his time will also come.

[Kemarit]

Wow! Some big drama show here. So from being friendly and hospitable to something different. The Haney's are working underground and are trying to change the signed schedule into something earlier and that's what made the champion Regis Prograis mad. I cannot believe Devin at this young age is already trying to lowball his opponent. And I am glad that Regis is standing his ground and is sharing this with the public.

So Devin Haney after becoming undisputed all of a sudden is trying to exploit and avoid riskier opponents as much as possible. First, he does not want to give Lomachenko his well-deserved rematch. Then he offered a laughable 25% PPV share on Shakur, his WBC mandatory. He said he wants to move up in weight at the same time hostage all the belts at 135. He wants to move up in weight but he doesn't want to fight the new lineal champion of 140, Teofimo Lopez. He wanted the WBC champion Regis Prograis after its very poor performance in the last fight. And Devin is not yet satisfied so he wanted Regis to not take a full rest from his previous 12-round fight and forced him to a schedule with less training time. I hope this kid gets clipped.

Source: Regis Prograis Angry on Devin Haney

Ok if I got it right, they already agreed and sign the contract and so they have the date already settled, then suddenly, they wanted to change the fight date much earlier?

Yeah, it's weird though, question is why they want the date to be change in the first place? They can't reason out that the venue is not ready or something. If they have sign a contract then for sure they already have a place for that. Not sure what to take from this drama, but definitely, this is a bitch-ass move by the Haney to derail Regis plan.

[mirakal]

Wow! Some big drama show here. So from being friendly and hospitable to something different. The Haney's are working underground and are trying to change the signed schedule into something earlier and that's what made the champion Regis Prograis mad. I cannot believe Devin at this young age is already trying to lowball his opponent. And I am glad that Regis is standing his ground and is sharing this with the public.

So Devin Haney after becoming undisputed all of a sudden is trying to exploit and avoid riskier opponents as much as possible. First, he does not want to give Lomachenko his well-deserved rematch. Then he offered a laughable 25% PPV share on Shakur, his WBC mandatory. He said he wants to move up in weight at the same time hostage all the belts at 135. He wants to move up in weight but he doesn't want to fight the new lineal champion of 140, Teofimo Lopez. He wanted the WBC champion Regis Prograis after its very poor performance in the last fight. And Devin is not yet satisfied so he wanted Regis to not take a full rest from his previous 12-round fight and forced him to a schedule with less training time. I hope this kid gets clipped.

Source: Regis Prograis Angry on Devin Haney

Ok if I got it right, they already agreed and sign the contract and so they have the date already settled, then suddenly, they wanted to change the fight date much earlier?

Yeah, it's weird though, question is why they want the date to be change in the first place? They can't reason out that the venue is not ready or something. If they have sign a contract then for sure they already have a place for that. Not sure what to take from this drama, but definitely, this is a bitch-ass move by the Haney to derail Regis plan.

It should be easy because Regis Prograis can always weave what they have discussed because of this nonsense move made by Haney and his camp, not sure what they thought by the way that led them to this but they just made themselves a huge embarrassment for trying to pull this trick. Also, if there was already a signed contract then this should be a done deal already, nothing will be changed unless if there were some injuries or emergencies.

[Yatsan]

Wow! Some big drama show here. So from being friendly and hospitable to something different. The Haney's are working underground and are trying to change the signed schedule into something earlier and that's what made the champion Regis Prograis mad. I cannot believe Devin at this young age is already trying to lowball his opponent. And I am glad that Regis is standing his ground and is sharing this with the public.

So Devin Haney after becoming undisputed all of a sudden is trying to exploit and avoid riskier opponents as much as possible. First, he does not want to give Lomachenko his well-deserved rematch. Then he offered a laughable 25% PPV share on Shakur, his WBC mandatory. He said he wants to move up in weight at the same time hostage all the belts at 135. He wants to move up in weight but he doesn't want to fight the new lineal champion of 140, Teofimo Lopez. He wanted the WBC champion Regis Prograis after its very poor performance in the last fight. And Devin is not yet satisfied so he wanted Regis to not take a full rest from his previous 12-round fight and forced him to a schedule with less training time. I hope this kid gets clipped.

Source: Regis Prograis Angry on Devin Haney

Ok if I got it right, they already agreed and sign the contract and so they have the date already settled, then suddenly, they wanted to change the fight date much earlier?

Yeah, it's weird though, question is why they want the date to be change in the first place? They can't reason out that the venue is not ready or something. If they have sign a contract then for sure they already have a place for that. Not sure what to take from this drama, but definitely, this is a bitch-ass move by the Haney to derail Regis plan.

Yes quite of an upset especially for audiences. Before a contract is made, negotiations with the venue and other things should come first, and last thing to come is the contract for players' managemebt as their approval to the arranged match. Confused if it is just a drama or just unprofessionalism to the one who is making the changes. Contract is a formal agreement and sudden changes shouldn't be easily entertained.

As other users have mentioned, this instance is also evident with some of the big fights before and many people believed that there's an intention of such action. Fighters have a planned routine and if it would be altered or adjusted then result would be different from what was assumed, which makes this a big deal.

[serjent05]

Weird. We have more votes for the defending champion Regis Prograis rather than the undisputed champion Devin Haney. Do you guys want to see Devin Haney lose or do you just believe that Regis lands his powerful punches?

I am bored with Haney's fighting style and he is supposed to lose against Loma. Now he is avoiding a Loma rematch, avoided his mandatory on Shakur, and avoided the real lineal champ at 140, Teofimo Lopez.

Regis had a bad night in his last fight and if he performs the same way again, Haney will have an easy time outboxing him. Still, I believe Regis knows he needs to perform better this time. I won't be surprised if he hits Haney with his signature awkward but powerful punches, this is the only way to beat Haney. If he cannot hurt Haney then he will lose his belt.

It's somehow debatable that is why we are seeing a mixed votes between the two champions, but for me, I chose Regis Prograis to win by a way of KO/TKO. I know that Haney does have an impressive style specially in his defense and counter punches but he doesn't have that much power to KO an opponent and certainly I don't believe that he can do it against Regis which is also an experienced boxer and had the same bouts as him. Now if Regis can utilize his power and speed, I think he got more chances in this fight compared to the upcoming challenger, Devin Haney.

Devin Haney was almost buckled by the smaller Lomachenco in the later round of their fight so there is no doubt that there is a possibility that Devin Haney will kiss the canvas in his fight against Prograis since Prograis is a heavier boxer, a heavier hitter than Loma and bigger than Loma.  I do not think that Haney can evade all the strong punches of Prograis so I also think that Prograis  has the possibility to win the fight via KO.

[btc_angela]

Weird. We have more votes for the defending champion Regis Prograis rather than the undisputed champion Devin Haney. Do you guys want to see Devin Haney lose or do you just believe that Regis lands his powerful punches?

I am bored with Haney's fighting style and he is supposed to lose against Loma. Now he is avoiding a Loma rematch, avoided his mandatory on Shakur, and avoided the real lineal champ at 140, Teofimo Lopez.

Regis had a bad night in his last fight and if he performs the same way again, Haney will have an easy time outboxing him. Still, I believe Regis knows he needs to perform better this time. I won't be surprised if he hits Haney with his signature awkward but powerful punches, this is the only way to beat Haney. If he cannot hurt Haney then he will lose his belt.

It's somehow debatable that is why we are seeing a mixed votes between the two champions, but for me, I chose Regis Prograis to win by a way of KO/TKO. I know that Haney does have an impressive style specially in his defense and counter punches but he doesn't have that much power to KO an opponent and certainly I don't believe that he can do it against Regis which is also an experienced boxer and had the same bouts as him. Now if Regis can utilize his power and speed, I think he got more chances in this fight compared to the upcoming challenger, Devin Haney.

Devin Haney was almost buckled by the smaller Lomachenco in the later round of their fight so there is no doubt that there is a possibility that Devin Haney will kiss the canvas in his fight against Prograis since Prograis is a heavier boxer, a heavier hitter than Loma and bigger than Loma.  I do not think that Haney can evade all the strong punches of Prograis so I also think that Prograis  has the possibility to win the fight via KO.

That's one weakness of Devin Haney, he has weak chin, there are other fighters as well that buckled him down, before Haney. It's that it was not a clear punch that hit him. But if a bigger guy like a natural welterweight in Prograis the Haney might not take it lightly and go down and this could be the selling point on how Prograis can score a upset here.

For sure Haney will be the favorite but facing hard hitters in the 140 lbs division, Devin will be made aware that this weight class is different for him and he might not survived at 140 lbs with all his big punchers and natural guys that literally packs a power.

[mirakal]

Weird. We have more votes for the defending champion Regis Prograis rather than the undisputed champion Devin Haney. Do you guys want to see Devin Haney lose or do you just believe that Regis lands his powerful punches?

I am bored with Haney's fighting style and he is supposed to lose against Loma. Now he is avoiding a Loma rematch, avoided his mandatory on Shakur, and avoided the real lineal champ at 140, Teofimo Lopez.

Regis had a bad night in his last fight and if he performs the same way again, Haney will have an easy time outboxing him. Still, I believe Regis knows he needs to perform better this time. I won't be surprised if he hits Haney with his signature awkward but powerful punches, this is the only way to beat Haney. If he cannot hurt Haney then he will lose his belt.

It's somehow debatable that is why we are seeing a mixed votes between the two champions, but for me, I chose Regis Prograis to win by a way of KO/TKO. I know that Haney does have an impressive style specially in his defense and counter punches but he doesn't have that much power to KO an opponent and certainly I don't believe that he can do it against Regis which is also an experienced boxer and had the same bouts as him. Now if Regis can utilize his power and speed, I think he got more chances in this fight compared to the upcoming challenger, Devin Haney.

Devin Haney was almost buckled by the smaller Lomachenco in the later round of their fight so there is no doubt that there is a possibility that Devin Haney will kiss the canvas in his fight against Prograis since Prograis is a heavier boxer, a heavier hitter than Loma and bigger than Loma.  I do not think that Haney can evade all the strong punches of Prograis so I also think that Prograis  has the possibility to win the fight via KO.

That's one weakness of Devin Haney, he has weak chin, there are other fighters as well that buckled him down, before Haney. It's that it was not a clear punch that hit him. But if a bigger guy like a natural welterweight in Prograis the Haney might not take it lightly and go down and this could be the selling point on how Prograis can score a upset here.

For sure Haney will be the favorite but facing hard hitters in the 140 lbs division, Devin will be made aware that this weight class is different for him and he might not survived at 140 lbs with all his big punchers and natural guys that literally packs a power.

That makes sense which is why Devin Haney was mastering the art of defense and counterpunching because he doesn't have any skills or options that can take down any given foe that he will face against. His only weapon is his IQ and defensive tactics that can evade strong punches but that too has its own limit and going against the natural guys at 140 pounds might be too much for him to handle and he will surely have some difficulties in that weight class.

I would be glad if he will be listed as the favorite in their upcoming fight because that will be a huge advantage for me to bet towards Regis Prograis, may it ML or via KO.

[Jawhead999]

Super lightweight seems to be an easy weight especially for Haney who have fought so many great boxers in lightweight. I think Regis Prograis is currently the tough boxer in super lightweight, if Haney can beat him, technically he don't have any problem to beat Romero, Matias and Lopez. All of them haven't defended their belt at least for once, that's why I think they're not really strong.

The result of this fight should be Haney win via decision.

[btc_angela]

Weird. We have more votes for the defending champion Regis Prograis rather than the undisputed champion Devin Haney. Do you guys want to see Devin Haney lose or do you just believe that Regis lands his powerful punches?

I am bored with Haney's fighting style and he is supposed to lose against Loma. Now he is avoiding a Loma rematch, avoided his mandatory on Shakur, and avoided the real lineal champ at 140, Teofimo Lopez.

Regis had a bad night in his last fight and if he performs the same way again, Haney will have an easy time outboxing him. Still, I believe Regis knows he needs to perform better this time. I won't be surprised if he hits Haney with his signature awkward but powerful punches, this is the only way to beat Haney. If he cannot hurt Haney then he will lose his belt.

It's somehow debatable that is why we are seeing a mixed votes between the two champions, but for me, I chose Regis Prograis to win by a way of KO/TKO. I know that Haney does have an impressive style specially in his defense and counter punches but he doesn't have that much power to KO an opponent and certainly I don't believe that he can do it against Regis which is also an experienced boxer and had the same bouts as him. Now if Regis can utilize his power and speed, I think he got more chances in this fight compared to the upcoming challenger, Devin Haney.

Devin Haney was almost buckled by the smaller Lomachenco in the later round of their fight so there is no doubt that there is a possibility that Devin Haney will kiss the canvas in his fight against Prograis since Prograis is a heavier boxer, a heavier hitter than Loma and bigger than Loma.  I do not think that Haney can evade all the strong punches of Prograis so I also think that Prograis  has the possibility to win the fight via KO.

That's one weakness of Devin Haney, he has weak chin, there are other fighters as well that buckled him down, before Haney. It's that it was not a clear punch that hit him. But if a bigger guy like a natural welterweight in Prograis the Haney might not take it lightly and go down and this could be the selling point on how Prograis can score a upset here.

For sure Haney will be the favorite but facing hard hitters in the 140 lbs division, Devin will be made aware that this weight class is different for him and he might not survived at 140 lbs with all his big punchers and natural guys that literally packs a power.

That makes sense which is why Devin Haney was mastering the art of defense and counterpunching because he doesn't have any skills or options that can take down any given foe that he will face against. His only weapon is his IQ and defensive tactics that can evade strong punches but that too has its own limit and going against the natural guys at 140 pounds might be too much for him to handle and he will surely have some difficulties in that weight class.

I would be glad if he will be listed as the favorite in their upcoming fight because that will be a huge advantage for me to bet towards Regis Prograis, may it ML or via KO.

Yes, I like that Haney too will be the favorite and see if he can hold that odds or maybe there will be swing odds for Prograis as there could be smart money that is going to Regis because they know the weakness of Devin and as we have said, this is a very different weight class for him and he might not be able to stand against big punchers on welterweight.

Or if he can get away from the power punches early, maybe in the later rounds when he is tired and reflex down, Prograis can find that hole and deliver that one punch that can change the complexion of the fight in his favor.

[Kasabus]

Super lightweight seems to be an easy weight especially for Haney who have fought so many great boxers in lightweight. I think Regis Prograis is currently the tough boxer in super lightweight, if Haney can beat him, technically he don't have any problem to beat Romero, Matias and Lopez. All of them haven't defended their belt at least for once, that's why I think they're not really strong.

The result of this fight should be Haney win via decision.

If only power is the only factor and measurement to be the best of super-lightweight division then Devin Haney wouldn't have any problems but he shouldn't forget that it will be a new weight for him and a new division as well, and while he's still adjusting to the weight, his opponents like Regis Prograis who is more comfortable at 140 will not show him mercy just because of that. Haney does have a chance, I'll give him that, but not as decent compared to the one whom he will face. And Teo Lopez? It turns out that he's just an underrated boxer who actually does have a chance to be one of the bad guys at 140 and let's not forget Josh Taylor, I think he can still bounce back.

[Kelvinid]

Yes, I like that Haney too will be the favorite and see if he can hold that odds or maybe there will be swing odds for Prograis as there could be smart money that is going to Regis because they know the weakness of Devin and as we have said, this is a very different weight class for him and he might not be able to stand against big punchers on welterweight.

Or if he can get away from the power punches early, maybe in the later rounds when he is tired and reflex down, Prograis can find that hole and deliver that one punch that can change the complexion of the fight in his favor.

Haney is moving up, challenging himself to test his limits. However, Regis Prograis is a boxer who lost to Josh Taylor and had a disappointing performance against Teofimo Lopez. So, considering that Haney is a more tactical fighter and probably quicker, I already have a good idea of where to lean in this match. The odds for Regis Prograis might be enticing, but as long as the odds for Haney are reasonable, I won't be tempted to bet on Regis Prograis.

[inthelongrun]

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.

Super lightweight seems to be an easy weight especially for Haney who have fought so many great boxers in lightweight. I think Regis Prograis is currently the tough boxer in super lightweight, if Haney can beat him, technically he don't have any problem to beat Romero, Matias and Lopez. All of them haven't defended their belt at least for once, that's why I think they're not really strong.

The result of this fight should be Haney win via decision.

If only power is the only factor and measurement to be the best of super-lightweight division then Devin Haney wouldn't have any problems but he shouldn't forget that it will be a new weight for him and a new division as well, and while he's still adjusting to the weight, his opponents like Regis Prograis who is more comfortable at 140 will not show him mercy just because of that. Haney does have a chance, I'll give him that, but not as decent compared to the one whom he will face. And Teo Lopez? It turns out that he's just an underrated boxer who actually does have a chance to be one of the bad guys at 140 and let's not forget Josh Taylor, I think he can still bounce back.

I like that this division is becoming like 50/50 against each other since the fall of Josh Taylor as it makes the division more exciting. Although Teofimo Lopez is the lineal champ as he beat Taylor. But prior to Prograis' poor performance, I also pick him as the strongest in this division. But just like Emmanuel Navarette who looked beatable before he was picked by Oscar Valdez, Regis is well aware too of his poor performance and will train harder and do better by addressing those bad habits in his next fight with Haney. I hope this fight is not canceled yet especially since the contracts are already signed.

[Jawhead999]

If only power is the only factor and measurement to be the best of super-lightweight division then Devin Haney wouldn't have any problems but he shouldn't forget that it will be a new weight for him and a new division as well, and while he's still adjusting to the weight, his opponents like Regis Prograis who is more comfortable at 140 will not show him mercy just because of that. Haney does have a chance, I'll give him that, but not as decent compared to the one whom he will face. And Teo Lopez? It turns out that he's just an underrated boxer who actually does have a chance to be one of the bad guys at 140 and let's not forget Josh Taylor, I think he can still bounce back.

Haney is high technical and has reach advantage, so I don't really think different weight will give him a trouble.

Prograis, Matias, Romero and Lopez aren't high technical boxers, so it will be pretty hard to beat Haney. Well maybe Josh Taylor has a chance to fight with Haney even though he not own any title, but his last performance against Catterall and Lopez were not good.

Lopez actually an overrated boxer due to his popularity, he's strong and has a stamina, but his performance is just not stable.

[btc_angela]

Yes, I like that Haney too will be the favorite and see if he can hold that odds or maybe there will be swing odds for Prograis as there could be smart money that is going to Regis because they know the weakness of Devin and as we have said, this is a very different weight class for him and he might not be able to stand against big punchers on welterweight.

Or if he can get away from the power punches early, maybe in the later rounds when he is tired and reflex down, Prograis can find that hole and deliver that one punch that can change the complexion of the fight in his favor.

Haney is moving up, challenging himself to test his limits. However, Regis Prograis is a boxer who lost to Josh Taylor and had a disappointing performance against Teofimo Lopez. So, considering that Haney is a more tactical fighter and probably quicker, I already have a good idea of where to lean in this match. The odds for Regis Prograis might be enticing, but as long as the odds for Haney are reasonable, I won't be tempted to bet on Regis Prograis.

He push Josh Taylor to the limit though and it was a close fight. But as for the Lopez fight, it's a different Taylor, prior to that so almost lost to Jake Catterall leading up to the speculation that he has a hard time making 140 lbs, no excuses though, Lopez beat him fair and square. But we can't compare Prograis performance against Taylor. As I have said, he put Taylor and maybe that's one reason why suddenly it was a different version of Taylor that we have seen after unifying the belts at 140 lbs.

And most likely, why those who love the underdogs like the chance of Regis Prograis against Haney who is moving up in weight. Although the fight is not yet final as we have seen Regis throwing tantrums that the Haney's is changing the terms specially the purse split.

[Natalim]

Although the fight is not yet final as we have seen Regis throwing tantrums that the Haney's is changing the terms specially the purse split.

I don't understand what kind of disrespectful act the camp of Haney is engaging in. They are the challengers, yet they want to dictate the terms of the purse split. We know that Haney is more popular, but they should respect that Regis Prograis is the champion. As a basic rule, the champion should receive more benefits in terms of the purse split. A 50-50 split might be the lowest acceptable, but if Haney were to request a 60-40 split in his favor, I think that would already be unjustifiable.

[Yaunfitda]

Although the fight is not yet final as we have seen Regis throwing tantrums that the Haney's is changing the terms specially the purse split.

I don't understand what kind of disrespectful act the camp of Haney is engaging in. They are the challengers, yet they want to dictate the terms of the purse split. We know that Haney is more popular, but they should respect that Regis Prograis is the champion. As a basic rule, the champion should receive more benefits in terms of the purse split. A 50-50 split might be the lowest acceptable, but if Haney were to request a 60-40 split in his favor, I think that would already be unjustifiable.

Yes, I agree, for sure it has something to do with the split that they are offering Regis, the current champion at a lower cut in the money here. And it's good that he engage the public here. Although not sure if the Haney has replied to it. But if you look at it, this are all businessman who wants to take advantage of their opponents to gain more money as far as split goes.

For me it's ok to call this 50-50, Haney is not a crowd drawer in his own rights. In his last fights, he need to have a good opponent to have a good PPV tickets and live gates. So it's just fair for Regis to complain if he is going the smaller cut here.

[Natalim]

Although the fight is not yet final as we have seen Regis throwing tantrums that the Haney's is changing the terms specially the purse split.

I don't understand what kind of disrespectful act the camp of Haney is engaging in. They are the challengers, yet they want to dictate the terms of the purse split. We know that Haney is more popular, but they should respect that Regis Prograis is the champion. As a basic rule, the champion should receive more benefits in terms of the purse split. A 50-50 split might be the lowest acceptable, but if Haney were to request a 60-40 split in his favor, I think that would already be unjustifiable.

Yes, I agree, for sure it has something to do with the split that they are offering Regis, the current champion at a lower cut in the money here. And it's good that he engage the public here. Although not sure if the Haney has replied to it. But if you look at it, this are all businessman who wants to take advantage of their opponents to gain more money as far as split goes.

For me it's ok to call this 50-50, Haney is not a crowd drawer in his own rights. In his last fights, he need to have a good opponent to have a good PPV tickets and live gates. So it's just fair for Regis to complain if he is going the smaller cut here.

He is the current champion, so he needs to maintain his position. Besides, if this fight does not happen, he will remain the champion and can still fight other boxers who challenge him. Who knows, he might get a shot at a unification fight, which I think is bigger than fighting Haney. Haney is the one who needs this fight; he is also trying to build his legacy, so he needs to become a champion. If he is too greedy, he will not get what he wants.

[Kasabus]

Although the fight is not yet final as we have seen Regis throwing tantrums that the Haney's is changing the terms specially the purse split.

I don't understand what kind of disrespectful act the camp of Haney is engaging in. They are the challengers, yet they want to dictate the terms of the purse split. We know that Haney is more popular, but they should respect that Regis Prograis is the champion. As a basic rule, the champion should receive more benefits in terms of the purse split. A 50-50 split might be the lowest acceptable, but if Haney were to request a 60-40 split in his favor, I think that would already be unjustifiable.

Yes, I agree, for sure it has something to do with the split that they are offering Regis, the current champion at a lower cut in the money here. And it's good that he engage the public here. Although not sure if the Haney has replied to it. But if you look at it, this are all businessman who wants to take advantage of their opponents to gain more money as far as split goes.

For me it's ok to call this 50-50, Haney is not a crowd drawer in his own rights. In his last fights, he need to have a good opponent to have a good PPV tickets and live gates. So it's just fair for Regis to complain if he is going the smaller cut here.

He is the current champion, so he needs to maintain his position. Besides, if this fight does not happen, he will remain the champion and can still fight other boxers who challenge him. Who knows, he might get a shot at a unification fight, which I think is bigger than fighting Haney. Haney is the one who needs this fight; he is also trying to build his legacy, so he needs to become a champion. If he is too greedy, he will not get what he wants.

Right, it shouldn't be even an issue to begin with because Regis is not the one who is chasing for a fight, Haney is, and because he is already the champion and he have a lot more options to choose rather than wasting his time on negotiations with Haney who surely got his head way back down. If that's what Haney wanted, then so be it, it will be his loss and not Regis's.

Don't know what's with Haney these days, he surely know that his days in the lightweight division are numbered but he thinks that he is still special and will always get the A-side even if he doesn't have anything to offer. What happened recently against Loma was just a lucky one and certainly will not be that lucky again in his next fights.

[mirakal]

Although the fight is not yet final as we have seen Regis throwing tantrums that the Haney's is changing the terms specially the purse split.

I don't understand what kind of disrespectful act the camp of Haney is engaging in. They are the challengers, yet they want to dictate the terms of the purse split. We know that Haney is more popular, but they should respect that Regis Prograis is the champion. As a basic rule, the champion should receive more benefits in terms of the purse split. A 50-50 split might be the lowest acceptable, but if Haney were to request a 60-40 split in his favor, I think that would already be unjustifiable.

Yes, I agree, for sure it has something to do with the split that they are offering Regis, the current champion at a lower cut in the money here. And it's good that he engage the public here. Although not sure if the Haney has replied to it. But if you look at it, this are all businessman who wants to take advantage of their opponents to gain more money as far as split goes.

For me it's ok to call this 50-50, Haney is not a crowd drawer in his own rights. In his last fights, he need to have a good opponent to have a good PPV tickets and live gates. So it's just fair for Regis to complain if he is going the smaller cut here.

He is the current champion, so he needs to maintain his position. Besides, if this fight does not happen, he will remain the champion and can still fight other boxers who challenge him. Who knows, he might get a shot at a unification fight, which I think is bigger than fighting Haney. Haney is the one who needs this fight; he is also trying to build his legacy, so he needs to become a champion. If he is too greedy, he will not get what he wants.

Right, it shouldn't be even an issue to begin with because Regis is not the one who is chasing for a fight, Haney is, and because he is already the champion and he have a lot more options to choose rather than wasting his time on negotiations with Haney who surely got his head way back down. If that's what Haney wanted, then so be it, it will be his loss and not Regis's.

Don't know what's with Haney these days, he surely know that his days in the lightweight division are numbered but he thinks that he is still special and will always get the A-side even if he doesn't have anything to offer. What happened recently against Loma was just a lucky one and certainly will not be that lucky again in his next fights.

Devin Haney already made his move and I don't know if that was wise or not but it's too obvious that he doesn't want Regis to prepare fully for their upcoming fight because he's afraid on what could happen. Moreover, Regis is the champion here and he have the full control of what could happen in the discussion, he shouldn't allow this to happen because he's been already underestimated.

First Haney wanted to be in the A-side when he's the one challenging Regis for the belt, for short, just a visitor who wanted to take his chance. And then now, he wanted to have a much earlier fight compared to what has been talked about.

[btc_angela]

Although the fight is not yet final as we have seen Regis throwing tantrums that the Haney's is changing the terms specially the purse split.

I don't understand what kind of disrespectful act the camp of Haney is engaging in. They are the challengers, yet they want to dictate the terms of the purse split. We know that Haney is more popular, but they should respect that Regis Prograis is the champion. As a basic rule, the champion should receive more benefits in terms of the purse split. A 50-50 split might be the lowest acceptable, but if Haney were to request a 60-40 split in his favor, I think that would already be unjustifiable.

Yes, I agree, for sure it has something to do with the split that they are offering Regis, the current champion at a lower cut in the money here. And it's good that he engage the public here. Although not sure if the Haney has replied to it. But if you look at it, this are all businessman who wants to take advantage of their opponents to gain more money as far as split goes.

For me it's ok to call this 50-50, Haney is not a crowd drawer in his own rights. In his last fights, he need to have a good opponent to have a good PPV tickets and live gates. So it's just fair for Regis to complain if he is going the smaller cut here.

He is the current champion, so he needs to maintain his position. Besides, if this fight does not happen, he will remain the champion and can still fight other boxers who challenge him. Who knows, he might get a shot at a unification fight, which I think is bigger than fighting Haney. Haney is the one who needs this fight; he is also trying to build his legacy, so he needs to become a champion. If he is too greedy, he will not get what he wants.

Right, it shouldn't be even an issue to begin with because Regis is not the one who is chasing for a fight, Haney is, and because he is already the champion and he have a lot more options to choose rather than wasting his time on negotiations with Haney who surely got his head way back down. If that's what Haney wanted, then so be it, it will be his loss and not Regis's.

Don't know what's with Haney these days, he surely know that his days in the lightweight division are numbered but he thinks that he is still special and will always get the A-side even if he doesn't have anything to offer. What happened recently against Loma was just a lucky one and certainly will not be that lucky again in his next fights.

Yeah, they wanted respect and they have been talking about it, but if they are going to lowball in every negotiations like this one, you wouldn't respect the Haney's. Like what Regis said, and so he exposed them are greedy as everyone sees it.

Perhaps it's getting into their head that they are a unified champion at 135 lbs and so they wanted to be treated differently when they go up at 140 lbs. But it's not the case, you have to earn it as what we said. But if they keeps on thinking that they are the A-side at welterweight, they are very wrong.

[bbc.reporter]

We have witnessed Tank vs. King Ry, Inoue vs. Fulton and Crawford vs. Spence. I am shaking my head why this young Devin Haney does not fight Shakur Stevenson and risk is undisputed lightweight championship against the best. These young boxers are sometimes only good in trashtalk, however, the opponents in their records are not big names.

[Darker45]

This match was already floated much earlier. The date was supposed to be August 1, 2023, but there were disagreements. This might still push through on a later date nonetheless.

Anyway, I voted for Haney's victory by way of decision. He should win this. As a matter of fact, he should even knock out Prograis. Prograis is 10 years Haney's senior. Haney is at the peak of his career right now. Despite Prograis' high knockout ratio, Haney's fighting style and athleticism could very easily defend that. And with a significant reach advantage, Haney could easily keep Prograis at bay with a jab or two.

Despite Prograis' less than sterling boxing resume though, I'd still want him to win.

[Baofeng]

We have witnessed Tank vs. King Ry, Inoue vs. Fulton and Crawford vs. Spence. I am shaking my head why this young Devin Haney does not fight Shakur Stevenson and risk is undisputed lightweight championship against the best. These young boxers are sometimes only good in trashtalk, however, the opponents in their records are not big names.

Perhaps that's the reason why the Haney's sign with PBC, as he doesn't want to rematch Loma or fight Top Ranks Shakur Stevenson. But maybe they realized that they eat more than they can chew in choosing a reigning 140 lbs titlist in Regis Prograis. Much better, and has more power than any fighter that they have fought and so they want to take control of the negotiations in any way they can.

@Darker45 - if I'm not mistaken, the date is supposedly Oct 28 for them to clash.

[Jating]

This match was already floated much earlier. The date was supposed to be August 1, 2023, but there were disagreements. This might still push through on a later date nonetheless.

Anyway, I voted for Haney's victory by way of decision. He should win this. As a matter of fact, he should even knock out Prograis. Prograis is 10 years Haney's senior. Haney is at the peak of his career right now. Despite Prograis' high knockout ratio, Haney's fighting style and athleticism could very easily defend that. And with a significant reach advantage, Haney could easily keep Prograis at bay with a jab or two.

Despite Prograis' less than sterling boxing resume though, I'd still want him to win.

But if you look at Haney's record, his last KO win was 2019 against Antonio Moran. So after that all of his wins are in decision, or in the hands of the judges. So it's hard to see how he can knockout a champion in Regis Prograis. He took the best of this division in Josh Taylor to a SD loss.

And it's obvious that Regis has more power and Haney chin is not that good in my opinion. He even buckled his legs when Loma hit him in their last fight.

However, we will have to see whether this fight is going to happen or not since there is some issues with the money split here.

[Sanitough]

This match was already floated much earlier. The date was supposed to be August 1, 2023, but there were disagreements. This might still push through on a later date nonetheless.

Anyway, I voted for Haney's victory by way of decision. He should win this. As a matter of fact, he should even knock out Prograis. Prograis is 10 years Haney's senior. Haney is at the peak of his career right now. Despite Prograis' high knockout ratio, Haney's fighting style and athleticism could very easily defend that. And with a significant reach advantage, Haney could easily keep Prograis at bay with a jab or two.

Despite Prograis' less than sterling boxing resume though, I'd still want him to win.

But if you look at Haney's record, his last KO win was 2019 against Antonio Moran. So after that all of his wins are in decision, or in the hands of the judges. So it's hard to see how he can knockout a champion in Regis Prograis. He took the best of this division in Josh Taylor to a SD loss.

And it's obvious that Regis has more power and Haney chin is not that good in my opinion. He even buckled his legs when Loma hit him in their last fight.

However, we will have to see whether this fight is going to happen or not since there is some issues with the money split here.

From my perspective, Haney seems to be approaching his fights more cautiously. He seems to prefer winning via the judges' scorecards rather than trying to knock out his opponent, especially when he knows he's leading in the scorecards. If we examine Haney's record after his KO victory, we see that all his wins have been via unanimous decisions. So, I suppose there's no need to alter his strategy if it guarantees him a victory. While I acknowledge he's the challenger, if he manages to make the champion appear inexperienced, there will be no controversy surrounding his win.

[Japinat]

If only power is the only factor and measurement to be the best of super-lightweight division then Devin Haney wouldn't have any problems but he shouldn't forget that it will be a new weight for him and a new division as well, and while he's still adjusting to the weight, his opponents like Regis Prograis who is more comfortable at 140 will not show him mercy just because of that. Haney does have a chance, I'll give him that, but not as decent compared to the one whom he will face. And Teo Lopez? It turns out that he's just an underrated boxer who actually does have a chance to be one of the bad guys at 140 and let's not forget Josh Taylor, I think he can still bounce back.

Haney is high technical and has reach advantage, so I don't really think different weight will give him a trouble.

Prograis, Matias, Romero and Lopez aren't high technical boxers, so it will be pretty hard to beat Haney. Well maybe Josh Taylor has a chance to fight with Haney even though he not own any title, but his last performance against Catterall and Lopez were not good.

Lopez actually an overrated boxer due to his popularity, he's strong and has a stamina, but his performance is just not stable.

I don't know what you're trying to say but reach advantage doesn't have anything to do with the weight needed to fight at 140 lbs., there is even no guarantee that he can even defeat and dominate the guys who are more comfortable at that weight class compared to him.

Look, I know that you might have high hopes towards Haney or something like that but the path that he's stepping into is still unknown and anything can happen because it's not his division to begin with. What more now that he's going directly towards the champion instead of trying a much safer debut first.

[Viscore]

If only power is the only factor and measurement to be the best of super-lightweight division then Devin Haney wouldn't have any problems but he shouldn't forget that it will be a new weight for him and a new division as well, and while he's still adjusting to the weight, his opponents like Regis Prograis who is more comfortable at 140 will not show him mercy just because of that. Haney does have a chance, I'll give him that, but not as decent compared to the one whom he will face. And Teo Lopez? It turns out that he's just an underrated boxer who actually does have a chance to be one of the bad guys at 140 and let's not forget Josh Taylor, I think he can still bounce back.

Haney is high technical and has reach advantage, so I don't really think different weight will give him a trouble.

Prograis, Matias, Romero and Lopez aren't high technical boxers, so it will be pretty hard to beat Haney. Well maybe Josh Taylor has a chance to fight with Haney even though he not own any title, but his last performance against Catterall and Lopez were not good.

Lopez actually an overrated boxer due to his popularity, he's strong and has a stamina, but his performance is just not stable.

I don't know what you're trying to say but reach advantage doesn't have anything to do with the weight needed to fight at 140 lbs., there is even no guarantee that he can even defeat and dominate the guys who are more comfortable at that weight class compared to him.

Look, I know that you might have high hopes towards Haney or something like that but the path that he's stepping into is still unknown and anything can happen because it's not his division to begin with. What more now that he's going directly towards the champion instead of trying a much safer debut first.

I understand why Haney chose to directly challenge the champion, as he believes he can defeat the champion and this match presents a significant opportunity to earn more money. From a promoter's perspective, this is an appealing fight, and it's possible that the organization permitted it, similar to Inoue moving up in weight to challenge and beat the champion Fulton with ease. As for this fight, its outcome remains uncertain, but looking at the odds from sportsbooks, Haney is the clear favorite to win.

[Maslate]

If only power is the only factor and measurement to be the best of super-lightweight division then Devin Haney wouldn't have any problems but he shouldn't forget that it will be a new weight for him and a new division as well, and while he's still adjusting to the weight, his opponents like Regis Prograis who is more comfortable at 140 will not show him mercy just because of that. Haney does have a chance, I'll give him that, but not as decent compared to the one whom he will face. And Teo Lopez? It turns out that he's just an underrated boxer who actually does have a chance to be one of the bad guys at 140 and let's not forget Josh Taylor, I think he can still bounce back.

Haney is high technical and has reach advantage, so I don't really think different weight will give him a trouble.

Prograis, Matias, Romero and Lopez aren't high technical boxers, so it will be pretty hard to beat Haney. Well maybe Josh Taylor has a chance to fight with Haney even though he not own any title, but his last performance against Catterall and Lopez were not good.

Lopez actually an overrated boxer due to his popularity, he's strong and has a stamina, but his performance is just not stable.

I don't know what you're trying to say but reach advantage doesn't have anything to do with the weight needed to fight at 140 lbs., there is even no guarantee that he can even defeat and dominate the guys who are more comfortable at that weight class compared to him.

Look, I know that you might have high hopes towards Haney or something like that but the path that he's stepping into is still unknown and anything can happen because it's not his division to begin with. What more now that he's going directly towards the champion instead of trying a much safer debut first.

I understand why Haney chose to directly challenge the champion, as he believes he can defeat the champion and this match presents a significant opportunity to earn more money. From a promoter's perspective, this is an appealing fight, and it's possible that the organization permitted it, similar to Inoue moving up in weight to challenge and beat the champion Fulton with ease. As for this fight, its outcome remains uncertain, but looking at the odds from sportsbooks, Haney is the clear favorite to win.

There is nothing wrong about them facing each other in a fair fight in the agreed time frame because that's how the boxing works and we cannot deny Haney's right to approach a different division because he sees himself as a future champion in a different level but what happened is Haney is requesting a very lowball offer, he wanted to have the majority of the purse and then he wanted to contest it in a much earlier date and time which was not on their negotiations to begin with. He should also understand the opposite camp because this is not all about him.

[Oasisman]

The present champion, Regis Prograis, has an impressive record as well. Although he is not an undefeated boxer, his KO rate is high—24 out of 29 fights, which is equivalent to an 82.7% KO rate. I hope he will be as quick as Haney so he will be able to hit him and use that high KO rate to his advantage.

You can't beat what you can't hit, and Haney is so good at hitting his opponent without getting hit, after Mayweather he is the best defensive boxer now, and I believe he can beat Prograis even if Prograis has a high knock-out ratio, Haney has beaten a lot of great punchers by his technical skills I don't know who will be the favorite by experts here but this early he is my favorite to win by decision.

Though technically you're right, one cannot beat someone who he can't do damage with, but this fight will be interesting to watch as both fighters had a not-so good fight prior to this one. A lot of boxing fans said their last win was a robbery. Prograis could have been easily the favorite if not his last performance, I mean he won 4 straight TKO's after he lost to Taylor in 2019. While Haney was being rocked by a smaller and aged fighter who is out of his prime during his last fight against Loma. I know Prograis is not as fast and agile as Loma but his a power puncher and I doubt Haney's chin though, 12 rounds is pretty long to try and defend yourself not getting hit by a hard hit. Nevertheless, Haney is a good defensive fighter let's just see who will prevail.

[freedomgo]

If only power is the only factor and measurement to be the best of super-lightweight division then Devin Haney wouldn't have any problems but he shouldn't forget that it will be a new weight for him and a new division as well, and while he's still adjusting to the weight, his opponents like Regis Prograis who is more comfortable at 140 will not show him mercy just because of that. Haney does have a chance, I'll give him that, but not as decent compared to the one whom he will face. And Teo Lopez? It turns out that he's just an underrated boxer who actually does have a chance to be one of the bad guys at 140 and let's not forget Josh Taylor, I think he can still bounce back.

Haney is high technical and has reach advantage, so I don't really think different weight will give him a trouble.

Prograis, Matias, Romero and Lopez aren't high technical boxers, so it will be pretty hard to beat Haney. Well maybe Josh Taylor has a chance to fight with Haney even though he not own any title, but his last performance against Catterall and Lopez were not good.

Lopez actually an overrated boxer due to his popularity, he's strong and has a stamina, but his performance is just not stable.

I don't know what you're trying to say but reach advantage doesn't have anything to do with the weight needed to fight at 140 lbs., there is even no guarantee that he can even defeat and dominate the guys who are more comfortable at that weight class compared to him.

Look, I know that you might have high hopes towards Haney or something like that but the path that he's stepping into is still unknown and anything can happen because it's not his division to begin with. What more now that he's going directly towards the champion instead of trying a much safer debut first.

I understand why Haney chose to directly challenge the champion, as he believes he can defeat the champion and this match presents a significant opportunity to earn more money. From a promoter's perspective, this is an appealing fight, and it's possible that the organization permitted it, similar to Inoue moving up in weight to challenge and beat the champion Fulton with ease. As for this fight, its outcome remains uncertain, but looking at the odds from sportsbooks, Haney is the clear favorite to win.

There is nothing wrong about them facing each other in a fair fight in the agreed time frame because that's how the boxing works and we cannot deny Haney's right to approach a different division because he sees himself as a future champion in a different level but what happened is Haney is requesting a very lowball offer, he wanted to have the majority of the purse and then he wanted to contest it in a much earlier date and time which was not on their negotiations to begin with. He should also understand the opposite camp because this is not all about him.

Haven't heard about that news because most of their tensions are just mere nonsense and were just made to add some fuel to the fire to attract more audience because we already know that Haney doesn't know how to market a fight aside from being boring in the ring. But as per their schedule, they are still set to face each other on October 28 in Las Vegas, Nevada.

[mirakal]

The present champion, Regis Prograis, has an impressive record as well. Although he is not an undefeated boxer, his KO rate is high—24 out of 29 fights, which is equivalent to an 82.7% KO rate. I hope he will be as quick as Haney so he will be able to hit him and use that high KO rate to his advantage.

You can't beat what you can't hit, and Haney is so good at hitting his opponent without getting hit, after Mayweather he is the best defensive boxer now, and I believe he can beat Prograis even if Prograis has a high knock-out ratio, Haney has beaten a lot of great punchers by his technical skills I don't know who will be the favorite by experts here but this early he is my favorite to win by decision.

Though technically you're right, one cannot beat someone who he can't do damage with, but this fight will be interesting to watch as both fighters had a not-so good fight prior to this one. A lot of boxing fans said their last win was a robbery. Prograis could have been easily the favorite if not his last performance, I mean he won 4 straight TKO's after he lost to Taylor in 2019. While Haney was being rocked by a smaller and aged fighter who is out of his prime during his last fight against Loma. I know Prograis is not as fast and agile as Loma but his a power puncher and I doubt Haney's chin though, 12 rounds is pretty long to try and defend yourself not getting hit by a hard hit. Nevertheless, Haney is a good defensive fighter let's just see who will prevail.

Let's see if Haney can still intercept and avoid Regis power punches because that is his only chance to win this fight because his technicality will always be a thing and his asset no matter what division he fights on, but those defensive maneuvers while throwing a counterattack will somehow vary as the more you weight, the slower you'll get specially if 140 is not your comfortable weight. Anyway, this will be a good fight as both of them have a thing to prove.

[FinneysTrueVision]

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.

The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

[Iranus]

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.

The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

I actually understand why they wanted to move the date. But I think that is not actually necessary to be honest. I believe the Haney fight is going to be a good one anyway. And there is no reason for him to make such a fuss about changing the date.

Obviously, people are going to want to see the other fight. Tyson Fury versus Francis, those two are definitely much more popular. And also will be able to bring in a huge amount of money. Because we got the interest of two worlds, two sets of fans, in this fight.

[bbc.reporter]

We have witnessed Tank vs. King Ry, Inoue vs. Fulton and Crawford vs. Spence. I am shaking my head why this young Devin Haney does not fight Shakur Stevenson and risk is undisputed lightweight championship against the best. These young boxers are sometimes only good in trashtalk, however, the opponents in their records are not big names.

Perhaps that's the reason why the Haney's sign with PBC, as he doesn't want to rematch Loma or fight Top Ranks Shakur Stevenson. But maybe they realized that they eat more than they can chew in choosing a reigning 140 lbs titlist in Regis Prograis. Much better, and has more power than any fighter that they have fought and so they want to take control of the negotiations in any way they can.

@Darker45 - if I'm not mistaken, the date is supposedly Oct 28 for them to clash.

This might be why we continue to witness more boxing fans start watching MMA. The organization behind boxing is in disorder because of these different promotions that compete against each other and these different championships that have their own mandatory rules. I reckon this makes it difficult for the best to negotiate with the other best and also much of the time, they avoid each other.

[Kemarit]

We have witnessed Tank vs. King Ry, Inoue vs. Fulton and Crawford vs. Spence. I am shaking my head why this young Devin Haney does not fight Shakur Stevenson and risk is undisputed lightweight championship against the best. These young boxers are sometimes only good in trashtalk, however, the opponents in their records are not big names.

Perhaps that's the reason why the Haney's sign with PBC, as he doesn't want to rematch Loma or fight Top Ranks Shakur Stevenson. But maybe they realized that they eat more than they can chew in choosing a reigning 140 lbs titlist in Regis Prograis. Much better, and has more power than any fighter that they have fought and so they want to take control of the negotiations in any way they can.

@Darker45 - if I'm not mistaken, the date is supposedly Oct 28 for them to clash.

This might be why we continue to witness more boxing fans start watching MMA. The organization behind boxing is in disorder because of these different promotions that compete against each other and these different championships that have their own mandatory rules. I reckon this makes it difficult for the best to negotiate with the other best and also much of the time, they avoid each other.

Nah, even though that corruption as rampant in boxing, still for me, it's one of the most watch fights as compare to MMA (no offense to MMA fans, as I'm also a fan). But it's very different with you have 4 governing bodies at the same time, and then we have a lot of promoters vying for that spot. For their fighters to become a champion regardless of what belt is it.
Compare to MMA wherein there is just one champion in every weight class and you have to earn your spot to become mandatory. But in any case, we shouldn't compare the two though, we can both be fans of this contact sports and enjoy it, IMHO.

[Vaculin]

We have witnessed Tank vs. King Ry, Inoue vs. Fulton and Crawford vs. Spence. I am shaking my head why this young Devin Haney does not fight Shakur Stevenson and risk is undisputed lightweight championship against the best. These young boxers are sometimes only good in trashtalk, however, the opponents in their records are not big names.

Perhaps that's the reason why the Haney's sign with PBC, as he doesn't want to rematch Loma or fight Top Ranks Shakur Stevenson. But maybe they realized that they eat more than they can chew in choosing a reigning 140 lbs titlist in Regis Prograis. Much better, and has more power than any fighter that they have fought and so they want to take control of the negotiations in any way they can.

@Darker45 - if I'm not mistaken, the date is supposedly Oct 28 for them to clash.

This might be why we continue to witness more boxing fans start watching MMA. The organization behind boxing is in disorder because of these different promotions that compete against each other and these different championships that have their own mandatory rules. I reckon this makes it difficult for the best to negotiate with the other best and also much of the time, they avoid each other.

Haney's choice don't really make any sense in my perspective because if they want a strong boxer to establish his name, then his mandatory title defense, Shakur Stevenson is the answer for that and that is a big pot of money waiting for him. But for some other reasons, they choose to take some risks, a much risky fight against a much veteran fighter that can somehow compete against him, Regis Prograis who is also a champion at 140. And if he gets successful in his campaign, I guess the other three champions are much easier because they already took the down the bigger tree.

[Yaunfitda]

We have witnessed Tank vs. King Ry, Inoue vs. Fulton and Crawford vs. Spence. I am shaking my head why this young Devin Haney does not fight Shakur Stevenson and risk is undisputed lightweight championship against the best. These young boxers are sometimes only good in trashtalk, however, the opponents in their records are not big names.

Perhaps that's the reason why the Haney's sign with PBC, as he doesn't want to rematch Loma or fight Top Ranks Shakur Stevenson. But maybe they realized that they eat more than they can chew in choosing a reigning 140 lbs titlist in Regis Prograis. Much better, and has more power than any fighter that they have fought and so they want to take control of the negotiations in any way they can.

@Darker45 - if I'm not mistaken, the date is supposedly Oct 28 for them to clash.

This might be why we continue to witness more boxing fans start watching MMA. The organization behind boxing is in disorder because of these different promotions that compete against each other and these different championships that have their own mandatory rules. I reckon this makes it difficult for the best to negotiate with the other best and also much of the time, they avoid each other.

Haney's choice don't really make any sense in my perspective because if they want a strong boxer to establish his name, then his mandatory title defense, Shakur Stevenson is the answer for that and that is a big pot of money waiting for him. But for some other reasons, they choose to take some risks, a much risky fight against a much veteran fighter that can somehow compete against him, Regis Prograis who is also a champion at 140. And if he gets successful in his campaign, I guess the other three champions are much easier because they already took the down the bigger tree.

And you know what's another thing that Devin Haney says that it doesn't make sense, is that after his 140 lbs fight against Prograis or whoever it was, he says that he will go down to 135 lbs and fight Shakur.

It's because why he not fight Shakur right now? And instead choose to go up at 140 lbs and chase another belt? And then right now we heard stories that he is offering low money to Prograis?

[jakelyson]

This is on the unconfirmed or just rumored to be on October 28, fight and it was on Tapology here is the link -  https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/103643-haney-vs-prograis

Devin Haney is surely being Criticise for not having enough power to knock out his opponent and his latest fights all ended with a decision but surely in his amateur fights it was all KO/TKO and this is because of his honed boxing style now he is an out boxer and setting up an attack with a counter and pretty much his Style was influence by Floyd Mayweather because Floyd was the one that has trained Haney back then and giving him tips on how to punch without getting punch, so another fighter will have a difficult time with his because he is constantly moving out and backing up,

Regis Prograis is an aggressive fighter well I really don't have any idea yet what his style is but sure it was normal aggressive punching and will surely go inside the ring in targeting getting a knockout for sure and pretty much he is an inside fighter he also got an accuracy in firing his shot so for sure this is surely an interesting fight, on who is going to win is it an aggressive puncher or the outside counter puncher,

[inthelongrun]

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.

The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

I actually understand why they wanted to move the date. But I think that is not actually necessary to be honest. I believe the Haney fight is going to be a good one anyway. And there is no reason for him to make such a fuss about changing the date.

Obviously, people are going to want to see the other fight. Tyson Fury versus Francis, those two are definitely much more popular. And also will be able to bring in a huge amount of money. Because we got the interest of two worlds, two sets of fans, in this fight.

I assume this fight is on pay-per-view as well. Devin Haney is paid millions of dollars per fight since his fight over Kambosos so I guess a million or two is not enough for him anymore. I remember when Eddie Hearn upon knowing Haney's promotional contract with Top Rank expired mentioned that he is becoming an expensive fighter and that he might not afford his services anymore. So it simply means that his fights are going to be on PPV.

Devin Haney is popular only to hardcore fans and while Prograis is a KO artist, he doesn't have a huge fanbase as well. Fury-Ngannou is a mismatch and is nowhere near the quality of Prograis-Haney but Fury has a huge fanbase and Ngannou might have the backing of the huge MMA community.

[Japinat]

We have witnessed Tank vs. King Ry, Inoue vs. Fulton and Crawford vs. Spence. I am shaking my head why this young Devin Haney does not fight Shakur Stevenson and risk is undisputed lightweight championship against the best. These young boxers are sometimes only good in trashtalk, however, the opponents in their records are not big names.

Perhaps that's the reason why the Haney's sign with PBC, as he doesn't want to rematch Loma or fight Top Ranks Shakur Stevenson. But maybe they realized that they eat more than they can chew in choosing a reigning 140 lbs titlist in Regis Prograis. Much better, and has more power than any fighter that they have fought and so they want to take control of the negotiations in any way they can.

@Darker45 - if I'm not mistaken, the date is supposedly Oct 28 for them to clash.

This might be why we continue to witness more boxing fans start watching MMA. The organization behind boxing is in disorder because of these different promotions that compete against each other and these different championships that have their own mandatory rules. I reckon this makes it difficult for the best to negotiate with the other best and also much of the time, they avoid each other.

Haney's choice don't really make any sense in my perspective because if they want a strong boxer to establish his name, then his mandatory title defense, Shakur Stevenson is the answer for that and that is a big pot of money waiting for him. But for some other reasons, they choose to take some risks, a much risky fight against a much veteran fighter that can somehow compete against him, Regis Prograis who is also a champion at 140. And if he gets successful in his campaign, I guess the other three champions are much easier because they already took the down the bigger tree.

And you know what's another thing that Devin Haney says that it doesn't make sense, is that after his 140 lbs fight against Prograis or whoever it was, he says that he will go down to 135 lbs and fight Shakur.

It's because why he not fight Shakur right now? And instead choose to go up at 140 lbs and chase another belt? And then right now we heard stories that he is offering low money to Prograis?

We don't certainly know what's up with him or their camp or his promoter, PBC. But I know that it's a stunt again because PBC has been known to do these kind of tricks but one thing is for sure, this particular step don't help Haney in his case or whatever it is because it will not make his name pretty as why would it be now if it's already clear that he is ducking Shakur Stevenson.

I remember that he actually have the balls to say that "I'm Number 1" in front of Shakur while Shakur responded "hey, for now" and then skipped the mandatory fight while hiding behind the reason that he is more interested to fight Regis at 140 but he's making himself already special by making demands even if he's not in the position to ask for it.

[btc_angela]

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.

The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

I actually understand why they wanted to move the date. But I think that is not actually necessary to be honest. I believe the Haney fight is going to be a good one anyway. And there is no reason for him to make such a fuss about changing the date.

Obviously, people are going to want to see the other fight. Tyson Fury versus Francis, those two are definitely much more popular. And also will be able to bring in a huge amount of money. Because we got the interest of two worlds, two sets of fans, in this fight.

I assume this fight is on pay-per-view as well. Devin Haney is paid millions of dollars per fight since his fight over Kambosos so I guess a million or two is not enough for him anymore. I remember when Eddie Hearn upon knowing Haney's promotional contract with Top Rank expired mentioned that he is becoming an expensive fighter and that he might not afford his services anymore. So it simply means that his fights are going to be on PPV.

Devin Haney is popular only to hardcore fans and while Prograis is a KO artist, he doesn't have a huge fanbase as well. Fury-Ngannou is a mismatch and is nowhere near the quality of Prograis-Haney but Fury has a huge fanbase and Ngannou might have the backing of the huge MMA community.

Yes, just to be fair with Haney, if he fights Prograis, he should be considered the A-side as he has been fighting good to great boxers and beating them. However, Prograis, may not ring a bell for casual fans, but if you check his record, he is a very good boxer as well and a KO artist and he almost beat the last unified 140 lbs champion in Josh Taylor.

And that's what make this fight exciting for us, a KO artist in Prograis and then Haney using his defense to his advantage and maybe beat Prograis with that kind of strategy and not allowing himself to get hit by the power of Regis here. But this should be at least fair for Regis to also get a good money in the purse split as he had the belt here.

[inthelongrun]

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.

The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

I actually understand why they wanted to move the date. But I think that is not actually necessary to be honest. I believe the Haney fight is going to be a good one anyway. And there is no reason for him to make such a fuss about changing the date.

Obviously, people are going to want to see the other fight. Tyson Fury versus Francis, those two are definitely much more popular. And also will be able to bring in a huge amount of money. Because we got the interest of two worlds, two sets of fans, in this fight.

I assume this fight is on pay-per-view as well. Devin Haney is paid millions of dollars per fight since his fight over Kambosos so I guess a million or two is not enough for him anymore. I remember when Eddie Hearn upon knowing Haney's promotional contract with Top Rank expired mentioned that he is becoming an expensive fighter and that he might not afford his services anymore. So it simply means that his fights are going to be on PPV.

Devin Haney is popular only to hardcore fans and while Prograis is a KO artist, he doesn't have a huge fanbase as well. Fury-Ngannou is a mismatch and is nowhere near the quality of Prograis-Haney but Fury has a huge fanbase and Ngannou might have the backing of the huge MMA community.

Yes, just to be fair with Haney, if he fights Prograis, he should be considered the A-side as he has been fighting good to great boxers and beating them. However, Prograis, may not ring a bell for casual fans, but if you check his record, he is a very good boxer as well and a KO artist and he almost beat the last unified 140 lbs champion in Josh Taylor.

And that's what make this fight exciting for us, a KO artist in Prograis and then Haney using his defense to his advantage and maybe beat Prograis with that kind of strategy and not allowing himself to get hit by the power of Regis here. But this should be at least fair for Regis to also get a good money in the purse split as he had the belt here.

Agree. So the A-side here is the challenger. I haven't fully watched the Taylor-Prograis unification fight but the stats are actually favoring Prograis slightly. Prograis keeps talking about wanting a rematch against Taylor or a fight with Ramirez yet he made the opposite move by refusing Top Rank's bigger offer and went to Matchroom.

I wonder if this fight is still a go. I hope this fight goes on. I want to see how Haney fares against a proven champion at 140 while I am also eager to see if Prograis still has it or if he is already declining as seen in his last fight.

[Japinat]

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.

The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

I actually understand why they wanted to move the date. But I think that is not actually necessary to be honest. I believe the Haney fight is going to be a good one anyway. And there is no reason for him to make such a fuss about changing the date.

Obviously, people are going to want to see the other fight. Tyson Fury versus Francis, those two are definitely much more popular. And also will be able to bring in a huge amount of money. Because we got the interest of two worlds, two sets of fans, in this fight.

I assume this fight is on pay-per-view as well. Devin Haney is paid millions of dollars per fight since his fight over Kambosos so I guess a million or two is not enough for him anymore. I remember when Eddie Hearn upon knowing Haney's promotional contract with Top Rank expired mentioned that he is becoming an expensive fighter and that he might not afford his services anymore. So it simply means that his fights are going to be on PPV.

Devin Haney is popular only to hardcore fans and while Prograis is a KO artist, he doesn't have a huge fanbase as well. Fury-Ngannou is a mismatch and is nowhere near the quality of Prograis-Haney but Fury has a huge fanbase and Ngannou might have the backing of the huge MMA community.

Yes, just to be fair with Haney, if he fights Prograis, he should be considered the A-side as he has been fighting good to great boxers and beating them. However, Prograis, may not ring a bell for casual fans, but if you check his record, he is a very good boxer as well and a KO artist and he almost beat the last unified 140 lbs champion in Josh Taylor.

And that's what make this fight exciting for us, a KO artist in Prograis and then Haney using his defense to his advantage and maybe beat Prograis with that kind of strategy and not allowing himself to get hit by the power of Regis here. But this should be at least fair for Regis to also get a good money in the purse split as he had the belt here.

Agree. So the A-side here is the challenger. I haven't fully watched the Taylor-Prograis unification fight but the stats are actually favoring Prograis slightly. Prograis keeps talking about wanting a rematch against Taylor or a fight with Ramirez yet he made the opposite move by refusing Top Rank's bigger offer and went to Matchroom.

I wonder if this fight is still a go. I hope this fight goes on. I want to see how Haney fares against a proven champion at 140 while I am also eager to see if Prograis still has it or if he is already declining as seen in his last fight.

I don't know why as well on why the rematch between Prograis and Taylor didn't materialized, or was there even a discussion about it? Anyway, if I'm correct, the later isn't having anymore of it as he might've though that his chapter against Prograis is already finish and there's nothing to prove anymore.

Now that Prograis is going to be challenged by an undisputed champion from 135, I bet he's thrilled by it specially after the fact that there are lots of fans thinking that he might lose this one because even if Haney is not a heavy hitter unlike like him, the unified champion got another asset that is quite difficult to approach.

[Kemarit]

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.

The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

I actually understand why they wanted to move the date. But I think that is not actually necessary to be honest. I believe the Haney fight is going to be a good one anyway. And there is no reason for him to make such a fuss about changing the date.

Obviously, people are going to want to see the other fight. Tyson Fury versus Francis, those two are definitely much more popular. And also will be able to bring in a huge amount of money. Because we got the interest of two worlds, two sets of fans, in this fight.

I assume this fight is on pay-per-view as well. Devin Haney is paid millions of dollars per fight since his fight over Kambosos so I guess a million or two is not enough for him anymore. I remember when Eddie Hearn upon knowing Haney's promotional contract with Top Rank expired mentioned that he is becoming an expensive fighter and that he might not afford his services anymore. So it simply means that his fights are going to be on PPV.

Devin Haney is popular only to hardcore fans and while Prograis is a KO artist, he doesn't have a huge fanbase as well. Fury-Ngannou is a mismatch and is nowhere near the quality of Prograis-Haney but Fury has a huge fanbase and Ngannou might have the backing of the huge MMA community.

Yes, just to be fair with Haney, if he fights Prograis, he should be considered the A-side as he has been fighting good to great boxers and beating them. However, Prograis, may not ring a bell for casual fans, but if you check his record, he is a very good boxer as well and a KO artist and he almost beat the last unified 140 lbs champion in Josh Taylor.

And that's what make this fight exciting for us, a KO artist in Prograis and then Haney using his defense to his advantage and maybe beat Prograis with that kind of strategy and not allowing himself to get hit by the power of Regis here. But this should be at least fair for Regis to also get a good money in the purse split as he had the belt here.

Agree. So the A-side here is the challenger. I haven't fully watched the Taylor-Prograis unification fight but the stats are actually favoring Prograis slightly. Prograis keeps talking about wanting a rematch against Taylor or a fight with Ramirez yet he made the opposite move by refusing Top Rank's bigger offer and went to Matchroom.

I wonder if this fight is still a go. I hope this fight goes on. I want to see how Haney fares against a proven champion at 140 while I am also eager to see if Prograis still has it or if he is already declining as seen in his last fight.

I don't know why as well on why the rematch between Prograis and Taylor didn't materialized, or was there even a discussion about it? Anyway, if I'm correct, the later isn't having anymore of it as he might've though that his chapter against Prograis is already finish and there's nothing to prove anymore.

Now that Prograis is going to be challenged by an undisputed champion from 135, I bet he's thrilled by it specially after the fact that there are lots of fans thinking that he might lose this one because even if Haney is not a heavy hitter unlike like him, the unified champion got another asset that is quite difficult to approach.

It's because Taylor chasing that other belts as well, so he didn't get to rematch Regis, but fight Ramirez to get the last of the belts, thus declaring him the unified champion. Then take a break and then fought Catterall, supposedly easy fight for him, but it was the other way around as he almost lost that fight. So there were news of a rematch, then he got injured pulled it off (maybe a clear duck).
But then make the wrong move of fighting a fellow Top Rank fighter (Prograis as you have said goes to Matchroom, so the rematch is scratch), in Lopez and soundly beaten. So there are reports now that he wanted to move to 147 lbs in his next fight.

[Japinat]

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.

The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

I actually understand why they wanted to move the date. But I think that is not actually necessary to be honest. I believe the Haney fight is going to be a good one anyway. And there is no reason for him to make such a fuss about changing the date.

Obviously, people are going to want to see the other fight. Tyson Fury versus Francis, those two are definitely much more popular. And also will be able to bring in a huge amount of money. Because we got the interest of two worlds, two sets of fans, in this fight.

I assume this fight is on pay-per-view as well. Devin Haney is paid millions of dollars per fight since his fight over Kambosos so I guess a million or two is not enough for him anymore. I remember when Eddie Hearn upon knowing Haney's promotional contract with Top Rank expired mentioned that he is becoming an expensive fighter and that he might not afford his services anymore. So it simply means that his fights are going to be on PPV.

Devin Haney is popular only to hardcore fans and while Prograis is a KO artist, he doesn't have a huge fanbase as well. Fury-Ngannou is a mismatch and is nowhere near the quality of Prograis-Haney but Fury has a huge fanbase and Ngannou might have the backing of the huge MMA community.

Yes, just to be fair with Haney, if he fights Prograis, he should be considered the A-side as he has been fighting good to great boxers and beating them. However, Prograis, may not ring a bell for casual fans, but if you check his record, he is a very good boxer as well and a KO artist and he almost beat the last unified 140 lbs champion in Josh Taylor.

And that's what make this fight exciting for us, a KO artist in Prograis and then Haney using his defense to his advantage and maybe beat Prograis with that kind of strategy and not allowing himself to get hit by the power of Regis here. But this should be at least fair for Regis to also get a good money in the purse split as he had the belt here.

Agree. So the A-side here is the challenger. I haven't fully watched the Taylor-Prograis unification fight but the stats are actually favoring Prograis slightly. Prograis keeps talking about wanting a rematch against Taylor or a fight with Ramirez yet he made the opposite move by refusing Top Rank's bigger offer and went to Matchroom.

I wonder if this fight is still a go. I hope this fight goes on. I want to see how Haney fares against a proven champion at 140 while I am also eager to see if Prograis still has it or if he is already declining as seen in his last fight.

I don't know why as well on why the rematch between Prograis and Taylor didn't materialized, or was there even a discussion about it? Anyway, if I'm correct, the later isn't having anymore of it as he might've though that his chapter against Prograis is already finish and there's nothing to prove anymore.

Now that Prograis is going to be challenged by an undisputed champion from 135, I bet he's thrilled by it specially after the fact that there are lots of fans thinking that he might lose this one because even if Haney is not a heavy hitter unlike like him, the unified champion got another asset that is quite difficult to approach.

It's because Taylor chasing that other belts as well, so he didn't get to rematch Regis, but fight Ramirez to get the last of the belts, thus declaring him the unified champion. Then take a break and then fought Catterall, supposedly easy fight for him, but it was the other way around as he almost lost that fight. So there were news of a rematch, then he got injured pulled it off (maybe a clear duck).
But then make the wrong move of fighting a fellow Top Rank fighter (Prograis as you have said goes to Matchroom, so the rematch is scratch), in Lopez and soundly beaten. So there are reports now that he wanted to move to 147 lbs in his next fight.

He might but there are still no clear indications that Taylor is indeed that inclined to climb the next weight class, which gave me some thinking that he might seek a redemption fight first or a rematch versus Lopez instead before exiting his present weight class. Who knows, but as of now, there are still no reports.

Going back to the discussion, is the date still the same or it was moved to a much earlier date? Because that was the issue and Regis lashed it out on the social media so that the people will know what Team Haney is trying to do.

[Kemarit]

^^ Well you can read it here, Josh Taylor planning to move up in weight class after losing welterweight unbeaten record.

Josh Taylor spoke about moving up to welterweight imminently after suffering the first defeat of his career to Teofimo Lopez in New York on Saturday night.

The 32-year-old Scot started the defence of his WBO and Ring Magazine super-lightweight titles at The Theater at Madison Square Garden looking like he had the measure of his Brooklyn opponent.

He doesn't have to prove anything at 140 lbs already, he has unified the belt but after that he has been struggling to make that weight. So obviously, it's the right decision for him and his camp to move up in weight class. And in the past he also said that he has sparred Ugas, who is a big 147 lbs and it went find. So definitely, I believed that the next time he will fight, he will go up to welterweight.

As for the update on the fight, we haven't heard any, and if I remember it correctly, this fight is happening around October-November time-frame.

[inthelongrun]

^^ Well you can read it here, Josh Taylor planning to move up in weight class after losing welterweight unbeaten record.

Josh Taylor spoke about moving up to welterweight imminently after suffering the first defeat of his career to Teofimo Lopez in New York on Saturday night.

The 32-year-old Scot started the defence of his WBO and Ring Magazine super-lightweight titles at The Theater at Madison Square Garden looking like he had the measure of his Brooklyn opponent.

He doesn't have to prove anything at 140 lbs already, he has unified the belt but after that he has been struggling to make that weight. So obviously, it's the right decision for him and his camp to move up in weight class. And in the past he also said that he has sparred Ugas, who is a big 147 lbs and it went find. So definitely, I believed that the next time he will fight, he will go up to welterweight.

As for the update on the fight, we haven't heard any, and if I remember it correctly, this fight is happening around October-November time-frame.

Yeah, Josh Taylor should've just moved up even before. So he ended up being injured again and inactive which benefitted Teofimo Lopez. For me, he looked like a fighter without motivation anymore. We'll see if he can still show something impressive in his 147 debut because I don't see the fire in him anymore.

As for this fight, I don't know what's the fuss on Haney wanting an earlier date. Why not just do it in the middle of November something to give Prograis enough time to prepare? Haney is still very young but he is becoming like a b1tch already trying to exploit his opponents. As if he is not boring to watch.   

[Distinctin]

As for this fight, I don't know what's the fuss on Haney wanting an earlier date. Why not just do it in the middle of November something to give Prograis enough time to prepare? Haney is still very young but he is becoming like a b1tch already trying to exploit his opponents. As if he is not boring to watch.   

He's the challenger, yet he seems to want to dictate the terms, which isn't a favorable approach.

His demands come across as rather assertive, as if he's confident he can defeat the current champion. Without a doubt, he can be seen as a bit unexciting, but considering his objective of moving up in weight to contend for a championship again, it's clear he's taking on risks. Despite this, he should still show respect for the current champion and adhere to the terms that have been agreed upon. It's worth noting that it wouldn't be an issue if Prograis' camp is amenable, but ensuring both fighters have ample time to train is crucial. This helps avoid post-fight excuses from the loser.

[Yaunfitda]

As for this fight, I don't know what's the fuss on Haney wanting an earlier date. Why not just do it in the middle of November something to give Prograis enough time to prepare? Haney is still very young but he is becoming like a b1tch already trying to exploit his opponents. As if he is not boring to watch.   

He's the challenger, yet he seems to want to dictate the terms, which isn't a favorable approach.

His demands come across as rather assertive, as if he's confident he can defeat the current champion. Without a doubt, he can be seen as a bit unexciting, but considering his objective of moving up in weight to contend for a championship again, it's clear he's taking on risks. Despite this, he should still show respect for the current champion and adhere to the terms that have been agreed upon. It's worth noting that it wouldn't be an issue if Prograis' camp is amenable, but ensuring both fighters have ample time to train is crucial. This helps avoid post-fight excuses from the loser.

Hmm, not sure about it as well, not that I want to insert religion here, but Haney is Muslim isn't it? Maybe there is some some kind of requirement for him to do before the actual date or after the date of the fight that's why he needs to adjust it.

But in any case, we really need to see this fight, currently I must say that Regis is one of the best if not the best champion at 140 lbs. I will not consider Teo Lopez a full fledge champion although he beat Taylor, but Josh was just weight drain and week at 140 lbs already.

[Maslate]

As for this fight, I don't know what's the fuss on Haney wanting an earlier date. Why not just do it in the middle of November something to give Prograis enough time to prepare? Haney is still very young but he is becoming like a b1tch already trying to exploit his opponents. As if he is not boring to watch.   

He's the challenger, yet he seems to want to dictate the terms, which isn't a favorable approach.

His demands come across as rather assertive, as if he's confident he can defeat the current champion. Without a doubt, he can be seen as a bit unexciting, but considering his objective of moving up in weight to contend for a championship again, it's clear he's taking on risks. Despite this, he should still show respect for the current champion and adhere to the terms that have been agreed upon. It's worth noting that it wouldn't be an issue if Prograis' camp is amenable, but ensuring both fighters have ample time to train is crucial. This helps avoid post-fight excuses from the loser.

Hmm, not sure about it as well, not that I want to insert religion here, but Haney is Muslim isn't it? Maybe there is some some kind of requirement for him to do before the actual date or after the date of the fight that's why he needs to adjust it.

But in any case, we really need to see this fight, currently I must say that Regis is one of the best if not the best champion at 140 lbs. I will not consider Teo Lopez a full fledge champion although he beat Taylor, but Josh was just weight drain and week at 140 lbs already.

I'm not sure about that as well because if that is truly the reason why Haney's camp suggested to move the fight at an earlier date then I bet Regis's camp would be understanding but since the latter wasn't, we can already assume that it wasn't the reason given which is why Regis was kind of upset about it because he didn't get the respect he deserved since he is the champion and not Haney.

[mirakal]

^^ Well you can read it here, Josh Taylor planning to move up in weight class after losing welterweight unbeaten record.

Josh Taylor spoke about moving up to welterweight imminently after suffering the first defeat of his career to Teofimo Lopez in New York on Saturday night.

The 32-year-old Scot started the defence of his WBO and Ring Magazine super-lightweight titles at The Theater at Madison Square Garden looking like he had the measure of his Brooklyn opponent.

He doesn't have to prove anything at 140 lbs already, he has unified the belt but after that he has been struggling to make that weight. So obviously, it's the right decision for him and his camp to move up in weight class. And in the past he also said that he has sparred Ugas, who is a big 147 lbs and it went find. So definitely, I believed that the next time he will fight, he will go up to welterweight.

As for the update on the fight, we haven't heard any, and if I remember it correctly, this fight is happening around October-November time-frame.

Yeah, Josh Taylor should've just moved up even before. So he ended up being injured again and inactive which benefitted Teofimo Lopez. For me, he looked like a fighter without motivation anymore. We'll see if he can still show something impressive in his 147 debut because I don't see the fire in him anymore.

As for this fight, I don't know what's the fuss on Haney wanting an earlier date. Why not just do it in the middle of November something to give Prograis enough time to prepare? Haney is still very young but he is becoming like a b1tch already trying to exploit his opponents. As if he is not boring to watch.   

I agree. Josh Taylor should've made that move much sooner before he suffered and scathed his record against the lucky Teo Lopez because if he did that, he might've been still an undefeated now and had already made a successful debut at 147 because it was clear that 140 is not for him anymore. I don't know what he expected but he sure do have some problems because he cannot weigh the situation clearly anymore compared to his younger days where he was so active.

For Haney, the undisputed champion didn't even bother to explain why they chose to move the fight in October 28 and that is already a big disrespect for Regis. He wasn't even informed about why the other camp is rushing the fight. If I'm on Regis's shoes, I'd forget this deal and make another fight because I'm not the one who is chasing.

[Vaculin]

For Haney, the undisputed champion didn't even bother to explain why they chose to move the fight in October 28 and that is already a big disrespect for Regis. He wasn't even informed about why the other camp is rushing the fight. If I'm on Regis's shoes, I'd forget this deal and make another fight because I'm not the one who is chasing.

I couldn't say more because to be frank and honest, I'd do that as well if I'm the champion and Devin Haney disrespected my status. This division is certainly not for Haney because he's not yet a bonafide 140 pound boxer and he should know his position because he's not the one calling the shots here, Regis is.
And if November is the month agreed by the both camps then so be it, because in the article that I've read, both camps already agreed to contest it somewhere in November but when it's time to sign the contract, Haney suddenly proposed something out of the blue.

[inthelongrun]

So the date remains alive but we haven't heard from the Haney team if they are still fighting on the said date. The contract has been signed though so I also wonder if the Haney's are just going to honor the date.

As for Regis Prograis, it's very funny since he said that if Haney is not ready then he is looking forward to giving Adrien Broner a shot at his belt. And Broner lately also said that he is back and is interested in facing the belt holders. It's funny though. I wonder if Broner can still make the 140-weight limit. Broner with his popularity became the target of Prograis, Rolly Romero, and Ryan Garcia. They're probably seeing Adrien Broner as a high reward with low low risk.

[btc_angela]

So the date remains alive but we haven't heard from the Haney team if they are still fighting on the said date. The contract has been signed though so I also wonder if the Haney's are just going to honor the date.

As for Regis Prograis, it's very funny since he said that if Haney is not ready then he is looking forward to giving Adrien Broner a shot at his belt. And Broner lately also said that he is back and is interested in facing the belt holders. It's funny though. I wonder if Broner can still make the 140-weight limit. Broner with his popularity became the target of Prograis, Rolly Romero, and Ryan Garcia. They're probably seeing Adrien Broner as a high reward with low low risk.

I think Rolly Romero has to deal with his own health issues if I'm not mistaken. But I go agree, probably it's less risk for them as we all know that Adrien is no longer a great (good) fighter, Marcos Maidana took his soul already.

I still wanted this fight to be a show though, maybe the Haney's are cooking something and then in the last minute, will inform that this fight is a go. This fight is schedule for October so there's a lot of leeway for both teams to make the fight.

[Japinat]

I still wanted this fight to be a show though, maybe the Haney's are cooking something and then in the last minute, will inform that this fight is a go. This fight is schedule for October so there's a lot of leeway for both teams to make the fight.

I'm hoping for the same thing too but I'm curious though, we're now in the month of September but still both camps are quite about it. There are even no news that are saying that their fight is already set and that their contract is already signed by both camps so it will really happen in the month of October.
So, if they are looking forward for the same thing then both of them should've agreed with the terms by now because time flies fast and the next thing we know, we're already in October.

[Kasabus]

I still wanted this fight to be a show though, maybe the Haney's are cooking something and then in the last minute, will inform that this fight is a go. This fight is schedule for October so there's a lot of leeway for both teams to make the fight.

I'm hoping for the same thing too but I'm curious though, we're now in the month of September but still both camps are quite about it. There are even no news that are saying that their fight is already set and that their contract is already signed by both camps so it will really happen in the month of October.
So, if they are looking forward for the same thing then both of them should've agreed with the terms by now because time flies fast and the next thing we know, we're already in October.

October is good but as of this moment, they are already behind their supposed timeline and they can't just suddenly announce it now that their fight will still happen at their agreed date because there are a lot of factors that they needed to be considered first specially after the fact that next month is already October.

I suppose that their negotiation will resume before this month ends because from what I know, Regis was targeting the 28th of October and Haney's camp doesn't want it as that is the very same day of the Fury vs Ngannou fight. I think that's also the reason why Haney's camp suggested that they should move in an earlier date.

[inthelongrun]

So according to Eddie Hearn, this fight is still alive but the signed October 28 date is off. Eddie is looking for the last week of November or early December as its new date.

I haven't seen enough hype about this fight. The media is more focused on Canelo and Crawford nowadays. I wonder if Eddie made the right call by signing Regis Prograis and Devin Haney. These guys aren't cheap and will be paid millions of dollars but they need to sell tickets, PPV, and convince companies for sponsorships. Maybe the fans are tired of Haney's boring style and while Prograis packs a punch, he is not that popular to the casuals.

[Yaunfitda]

So according to Eddie Hearn, this fight is still alive but the signed October 28 date is off. Eddie is looking for the last week of November or early December as its new date.

I haven't seen enough hype about this fight. The media is more focused on Canelo and Crawford nowadays. I wonder if Eddie made the right call by signing Regis Prograis and Devin Haney. These guys aren't cheap and will be paid millions of dollars but they need to sell tickets, PPV, and convince companies for sponsorships. Maybe the fans are tired of Haney's boring style and while Prograis packs a punch, he is not that popular to the casuals.

Yeah, it's a big gamble that Eddie Hearn and his company sign this two boxers who for me hasn't had a good solid followers. No doubt that they are great boxers, but in the current state of boxing industry, you need to sell fights, you need to fill the arena with people that are willing to pay expensive tickets just to see boxers give a good show.

And I don't think that the 2 fits that perfectly. Haney is the undisputed in 135 lbs, but it takes two to tango to make the fight sell, just like in his last fight against Loma. As for Regis, 140 lbs? doesn't have a good name to bring the hype in this division.

[btc_angela]

So according to Eddie Hearn, this fight is still alive but the signed October 28 date is off. Eddie is looking for the last week of November or early December as its new date.

So it was just a push, but still good to hear that the fight is still going to happen despite what we heard with Regis.

I haven't seen enough hype about this fight. The media is more focused on Canelo and Crawford nowadays. I wonder if Eddie made the right call by signing Regis Prograis and Devin Haney. These guys aren't cheap and will be paid millions of dollars but they need to sell tickets, PPV, and convince companies for sponsorships. Maybe the fans are tired of Haney's boring style and while Prograis packs a punch, he is not that popular to the casuals.

Fight is still months to go so there are no hype currently. But maybe when the fight approaches, they are going to sell this fight as both are trash talkers. I do agree that Eddie might have sign this boxers for good amount of money so he needs to get it back. But not sure how, they need some good storyline to sell this fight to the boxing fans. And Eddie might be losing money in the end.

[Distinctin]

I haven't seen enough hype about this fight. The media is more focused on Canelo and Crawford nowadays. I wonder if Eddie made the right call by signing Regis Prograis and Devin Haney. These guys aren't cheap and will be paid millions of dollars but they need to sell tickets, PPV, and convince companies for sponsorships. Maybe the fans are tired of Haney's boring style and while Prograis packs a punch, he is not that popular to the casuals.

Fight is still months to go so there are no hype currently. But maybe when the fight approaches, they are going to sell this fight as both are trash talkers. I do agree that Eddie might have sign this boxers for good amount of money so he needs to get it back. But not sure how, they need some good storyline to sell this fight to the boxing fans. And Eddie might be losing money in the end.

There's only one reason why the fight was moved: people are not interested in watching it. I'm not sure if this will really happen despite the announcement that it could take place later this year. It still depends on how the fans will react to this fight. If it's not going to be profitable for the promoters, it will likely be off this year. I would bet on the outcome; I think it's not going to happen this year.

With lots of exciting fights happening now, who would want to watch Haney, a somewhat boring boxer, against a non-popular champion?

[inthelongrun]

I haven't seen enough hype about this fight. The media is more focused on Canelo and Crawford nowadays. I wonder if Eddie made the right call by signing Regis Prograis and Devin Haney. These guys aren't cheap and will be paid millions of dollars but they need to sell tickets, PPV, and convince companies for sponsorships. Maybe the fans are tired of Haney's boring style and while Prograis packs a punch, he is not that popular to the casuals.

Fight is still months to go so there are no hype currently. But maybe when the fight approaches, they are going to sell this fight as both are trash talkers. I do agree that Eddie might have sign this boxers for good amount of money so he needs to get it back. But not sure how, they need some good storyline to sell this fight to the boxing fans. And Eddie might be losing money in the end.

There's only one reason why the fight was moved: people are not interested in watching it. I'm not sure if this will really happen despite the announcement that it could take place later this year. It still depends on how the fans will react to this fight. If it's not going to be profitable for the promoters, it will likely be off this year. I would bet on the outcome; I think it's not going to happen this year.

With lots of exciting fights happening now, who would want to watch Haney, a somewhat boring boxer, against a non-popular champion?

It might be true. The real hype starts once the date of the fight is getting nearer. Both do not like each other right now so we might see an exciting press conference and face-offs during the fight week. Selling tickets in the venue might not be that hard but I guess the PPV buys will be only around 200k. Hopefully, we'll see good matchups in the undercards.

Maybe we'll make a friendly bet, I believe this fight will happen this year. I still watch this fight live because I want to see if Regis Prograis can land his power shots on Devin Haney. Regis is not that popular but I like him, he is exciting to me because he knocks people out.

[Hirose UK]

So according to Eddie Hearn, this fight is still alive but the signed October 28 date is off. Eddie is looking for the last week of November or early December as its new date.

So it was just a push, but still good to hear that the fight is still going to happen despite what we heard with Regis.

Even though the fight was postponed and there is no definite date when it can be held it will still take place and the cancellation of the initial schedule was only due to a small problem that occurred.
The Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney fight has become one that all boxing fans have been waiting for and it looks like the two fighters holding the WBC belt will show a pretty fierce fight.
Devin Haney is the most impatient to immediately carry out this fight.

I haven't seen enough hype about this fight. The media is more focused on Canelo and Crawford nowadays. I wonder if Eddie made the right call by signing Regis Prograis and Devin Haney. These guys aren't cheap and will be paid millions of dollars but they need to sell tickets, PPV, and convince companies for sponsorships. Maybe the fans are tired of Haney's boring style and while Prograis packs a punch, he is not that popular to the casuals.

Fight is still months to go so there are no hype currently. But maybe when the fight approaches, they are going to sell this fight as both are trash talkers. I do agree that Eddie might have sign this boxers for good amount of money so he needs to get it back. But not sure how, they need some good storyline to sell this fight to the boxing fans. And Eddie might be losing money in the end.

Well, this is one of the reasons why Eddie Hearn will still take this fight because he spent money to sell it and make more profit.
It is normal to have other goals by seeking profits in every match.

[Japinat]

I haven't seen enough hype about this fight. The media is more focused on Canelo and Crawford nowadays. I wonder if Eddie made the right call by signing Regis Prograis and Devin Haney. These guys aren't cheap and will be paid millions of dollars but they need to sell tickets, PPV, and convince companies for sponsorships. Maybe the fans are tired of Haney's boring style and while Prograis packs a punch, he is not that popular to the casuals.

Fight is still months to go so there are no hype currently. But maybe when the fight approaches, they are going to sell this fight as both are trash talkers. I do agree that Eddie might have sign this boxers for good amount of money so he needs to get it back. But not sure how, they need some good storyline to sell this fight to the boxing fans. And Eddie might be losing money in the end.

There's only one reason why the fight was moved: people are not interested in watching it. I'm not sure if this will really happen despite the announcement that it could take place later this year. It still depends on how the fans will react to this fight. If it's not going to be profitable for the promoters, it will likely be off this year. I would bet on the outcome; I think it's not going to happen this year.

With lots of exciting fights happening now, who would want to watch Haney, a somewhat boring boxer, against a non-popular champion?

It might be true. The real hype starts once the date of the fight is getting nearer. Both do not like each other right now so we might see an exciting press conference and face-offs during the fight week. Selling tickets in the venue might not be that hard but I guess the PPV buys will be only around 200k. Hopefully, we'll see good matchups in the undercards.

Maybe we'll make a friendly bet, I believe this fight will happen this year. I still watch this fight live because I want to see if Regis Prograis can land his power shots on Devin Haney. Regis is not that popular but I like him, he is exciting to me because he knocks people out.

People are also not taking things seriously because both camps seems not interested as well because of the fighting they had, we know that both of them don't like each other but they need to find that exact date where both of them will agree so that they can begin building their hype as they need that to have that specifically to make more money aside from the guaranteed millions that they're getting.

About the PPV buys, targeting for over 500k seems a little bit impossible to attain and it's too much to ask as well considering that both names aren't that loud in this industry. So yes, 200-250k is somehow possible and close to reality. I bet Eddie Hearn is now cracking his brain for this because time has already lost.

[Kemarit]

I haven't seen enough hype about this fight. The media is more focused on Canelo and Crawford nowadays. I wonder if Eddie made the right call by signing Regis Prograis and Devin Haney. These guys aren't cheap and will be paid millions of dollars but they need to sell tickets, PPV, and convince companies for sponsorships. Maybe the fans are tired of Haney's boring style and while Prograis packs a punch, he is not that popular to the casuals.

Fight is still months to go so there are no hype currently. But maybe when the fight approaches, they are going to sell this fight as both are trash talkers. I do agree that Eddie might have sign this boxers for good amount of money so he needs to get it back. But not sure how, they need some good storyline to sell this fight to the boxing fans. And Eddie might be losing money in the end.

There's only one reason why the fight was moved: people are not interested in watching it. I'm not sure if this will really happen despite the announcement that it could take place later this year. It still depends on how the fans will react to this fight. If it's not going to be profitable for the promoters, it will likely be off this year. I would bet on the outcome; I think it's not going to happen this year.

With lots of exciting fights happening now, who would want to watch Haney, a somewhat boring boxer, against a non-popular champion?

It might be true. The real hype starts once the date of the fight is getting nearer. Both do not like each other right now so we might see an exciting press conference and face-offs during the fight week. Selling tickets in the venue might not be that hard but I guess the PPV buys will be only around 200k. Hopefully, we'll see good matchups in the undercards.

Maybe we'll make a friendly bet, I believe this fight will happen this year. I still watch this fight live because I want to see if Regis Prograis can land his power shots on Devin Haney. Regis is not that popular but I like him, he is exciting to me because he knocks people out.

In addition, this will be a testament for Eddie, if he can really bring the hype on this fight. Previously, all of his fights involved high profile boxers like Canelo.
But since Canelo didn't sign a contract with him, and so he has to find fighter that can bring money for his business in the US.
And as we all know, he has been criticitized by his competitor, specially Top Rank's Bob Arum.
By chance if he losses millions here, then he might have to fight or sign popular boxers in his stable to at least break even in this fight.
I do agree that Regis is exciting because he is a heavy puncher, but he is not well known amongst boxing fans.

[inthelongrun]

So according to Eddie Hearn, this fight is still alive but the signed October 28 date is off. Eddie is looking for the last week of November or early December as its new date.

So it was just a push, but still good to hear that the fight is still going to happen despite what we heard with Regis.

Even though the fight was postponed and there is no definite date when it can be held it will still take place and the cancellation of the initial schedule was only due to a small problem that occurred.
The Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney fight has become one that all boxing fans have been waiting for and it looks like the two fighters holding the WBC belt will show a pretty fierce fight.
Devin Haney is the most impatient to immediately carry out this fight.

It's just that Devin Haney wanted to exploit Regis Prograis so he acts like he is in a hurry. Haney had been training already and he wanted to catch Prograis to have less training than the usual 2 months camp.

Anyway, this fight is a go. The final date is on December 9 at the Golden State Warriors' Chase Center in San Francisco, California. So at least Eddie Hearn did not follow the Haneys' request of making the fight on an earlier date which put Prograis at a disadvantage. I'm excited and I am looking forward to the champion Prograis landing his powerful punches on Haney. 

[mirakal]

So according to Eddie Hearn, this fight is still alive but the signed October 28 date is off. Eddie is looking for the last week of November or early December as its new date.

So it was just a push, but still good to hear that the fight is still going to happen despite what we heard with Regis.

Even though the fight was postponed and there is no definite date when it can be held it will still take place and the cancellation of the initial schedule was only due to a small problem that occurred.
The Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney fight has become one that all boxing fans have been waiting for and it looks like the two fighters holding the WBC belt will show a pretty fierce fight.
Devin Haney is the most impatient to immediately carry out this fight.

It's just that Devin Haney wanted to exploit Regis Prograis so he acts like he is in a hurry. Haney had been training already and he wanted to catch Prograis to have less training than the usual 2 months camp.

Anyway, this fight is a go. The final date is on December 9 at the Golden State Warriors' Chase Center in San Francisco, California. So at least Eddie Hearn did not follow the Haneys' request of making the fight on an earlier date which put Prograis at a disadvantage. I'm excited and I am looking forward to the champion Prograis landing his powerful punches on Haney. 

The details are already out for the public to know that this fight will be pushed through at a later date instead of what was discussed few weeks before, they made it seem that this is already a done deal so that there are still some room for them to market the fight and gather some hype but the truth is, it's not really that done because Regis said that they are still waiting for Haney's camp to sign the contract.

[Finestream]

I haven't seen enough hype about this fight. The media is more focused on Canelo and Crawford nowadays. I wonder if Eddie made the right call by signing Regis Prograis and Devin Haney. These guys aren't cheap and will be paid millions of dollars but they need to sell tickets, PPV, and convince companies for sponsorships. Maybe the fans are tired of Haney's boring style and while Prograis packs a punch, he is not that popular to the casuals.

Fight is still months to go so there are no hype currently. But maybe when the fight approaches, they are going to sell this fight as both are trash talkers. I do agree that Eddie might have sign this boxers for good amount of money so he needs to get it back. But not sure how, they need some good storyline to sell this fight to the boxing fans. And Eddie might be losing money in the end.

There's only one reason why the fight was moved: people are not interested in watching it. I'm not sure if this will really happen despite the announcement that it could take place later this year. It still depends on how the fans will react to this fight. If it's not going to be profitable for the promoters, it will likely be off this year. I would bet on the outcome; I think it's not going to happen this year.

With lots of exciting fights happening now, who would want to watch Haney, a somewhat boring boxer, against a non-popular champion?

It might be true. The real hype starts once the date of the fight is getting nearer. Both do not like each other right now so we might see an exciting press conference and face-offs during the fight week. Selling tickets in the venue might not be that hard but I guess the PPV buys will be only around 200k. Hopefully, we'll see good matchups in the undercards.

Maybe we'll make a friendly bet, I believe this fight will happen this year. I still watch this fight live because I want to see if Regis Prograis can land his power shots on Devin Haney. Regis is not that popular but I like him, he is exciting to me because he knocks people out.

In addition, this will be a testament for Eddie, if he can really bring the hype on this fight. Previously, all of his fights involved high profile boxers like Canelo.
But since Canelo didn't sign a contract with him, and so he has to find fighter that can bring money for his business in the US.
And as we all know, he has been criticitized by his competitor, specially Top Rank's Bob Arum.
By chance if he losses millions here, then he might have to fight or sign popular boxers in his stable to at least break even in this fight.
I do agree that Regis is exciting because he is a heavy puncher, but he is not well known amongst boxing fans.

I'd say that it will be one of the few reasons for Regis to strive even harder so that he can make a name for himself, he might not be that known in this industry even if he's already a champion but defeating someone like Devin Haney will certainly put him on the map and people will begin to know more about him, as well as his records in the past. Everyone loves an underdog story, just like how Bivol started to be famous.

[inthelongrun]

So according to Eddie Hearn, this fight is still alive but the signed October 28 date is off. Eddie is looking for the last week of November or early December as its new date.

So it was just a push, but still good to hear that the fight is still going to happen despite what we heard with Regis.

Even though the fight was postponed and there is no definite date when it can be held it will still take place and the cancellation of the initial schedule was only due to a small problem that occurred.
The Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney fight has become one that all boxing fans have been waiting for and it looks like the two fighters holding the WBC belt will show a pretty fierce fight.
Devin Haney is the most impatient to immediately carry out this fight.

It's just that Devin Haney wanted to exploit Regis Prograis so he acts like he is in a hurry. Haney had been training already and he wanted to catch Prograis to have less training than the usual 2 months camp.

Anyway, this fight is a go. The final date is on December 9 at the Golden State Warriors' Chase Center in San Francisco, California. So at least Eddie Hearn did not follow the Haneys' request of making the fight on an earlier date which put Prograis at a disadvantage. I'm excited and I am looking forward to the champion Prograis landing his powerful punches on Haney. 

The details are already out for the public to know that this fight will be pushed through at a later date instead of what was discussed few weeks before, they made it seem that this is already a done deal so that there are still some room for them to market the fight and gather some hype but the truth is, it's not really that done because Regis said that they are still waiting for Haney's camp to sign the contract.

I wonder why they haven't signed the contract before like what Prograis did. Matchroom and DAZN and not dumb to not make necessary adjustments when needed. The fans are starting to figure out that the Haneys are starting to follow the Mayweather way which is to exploit its opponents, cherry-pick the weakest ones, money first, and try to trash-talk and do some stunts to market their fights. I even doubt Haney will pick to challenge Prograis' belt if he knocked out his last opponent. Not to mention that the lineal champion in this division is Teofimo Lopez having won the WBO belt from former undisputed champion Josh Taylor. And Bob Arum tried to push hard for Haney to face Teofimo but the former want the safest route. Also, Teofimo Lopez is obviously the biggest money maker of all the 4 champions in this division.

[freedomgo]

So according to Eddie Hearn, this fight is still alive but the signed October 28 date is off. Eddie is looking for the last week of November or early December as its new date.

So it was just a push, but still good to hear that the fight is still going to happen despite what we heard with Regis.

Even though the fight was postponed and there is no definite date when it can be held it will still take place and the cancellation of the initial schedule was only due to a small problem that occurred.
The Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney fight has become one that all boxing fans have been waiting for and it looks like the two fighters holding the WBC belt will show a pretty fierce fight.
Devin Haney is the most impatient to immediately carry out this fight.

It's just that Devin Haney wanted to exploit Regis Prograis so he acts like he is in a hurry. Haney had been training already and he wanted to catch Prograis to have less training than the usual 2 months camp.

Anyway, this fight is a go. The final date is on December 9 at the Golden State Warriors' Chase Center in San Francisco, California. So at least Eddie Hearn did not follow the Haneys' request of making the fight on an earlier date which put Prograis at a disadvantage. I'm excited and I am looking forward to the champion Prograis landing his powerful punches on Haney. 

The details are already out for the public to know that this fight will be pushed through at a later date instead of what was discussed few weeks before, they made it seem that this is already a done deal so that there are still some room for them to market the fight and gather some hype but the truth is, it's not really that done because Regis said that they are still waiting for Haney's camp to sign the contract.

I wonder why they haven't signed the contract before like what Prograis did. Matchroom and DAZN and not dumb to not make necessary adjustments when needed. The fans are starting to figure out that the Haneys are starting to follow the Mayweather way which is to exploit its opponents, cherry-pick the weakest ones, money first, and try to trash-talk and do some stunts to market their fights. I even doubt Haney will pick to challenge Prograis' belt if he knocked out his last opponent. Not to mention that the lineal champion in this division is Teofimo Lopez having won the WBO belt from former undisputed champion Josh Taylor. And Bob Arum tried to push hard for Haney to face Teofimo but the former want the safest route. Also, Teofimo Lopez is obviously the biggest money maker of all the 4 champions in this division.

That is the downside of this business, they tend to forget that it's about making the people entertain while gaining lots of profits from it. But in todays day and age, boxers are behaving more like a star instead of a warrior because they are prioritizing their business first instead of giving the people what they want by having strong boxers facing another strong boxer.

Haney is good and people believed in him for that because he is unlike any other boxers out there but it all started when he faced Loma, I bet he underestimated the latter because he thought that Loma was already over in his time but that was not what happened, after that, he became scared and opted to go for Regis just to avoid facing Shakur. He might got his way now but the challenge is that Regis is not easy to crack, that is why they are making some way right now to give a disadvantage towards the champion.

[btc_angela]

Last time I read, this fight is still a go, but the date has change and it's going to be around December 9. So that is a big push already from the original date of October, but just like the rest of you guys, the question is, is this a PPV worthy for us boxing fans? Or at least they should have streamed this for free?

I mean we have been discussing that they might be losing some money already here and so I'm thinking that it might be good if they will just go for free and so they won't be disappointed with the PPV numbers that will come later.

[Yaunfitda]

^ I'm not really sure if this is a good idea to stream the fight for free, it's going to be a double black eye for Eddie Hearn if he do that. He might be paying Haney with big money already so with that, I think he has lost some money already as it's hard to promote Haney because we all know that he doesn't have that charisma to the boxing fans maybe because of his styles.

But if you look at his records, still very young and undefeated and undisputed at 135 lbs, so that is a big accomplished already. But for us boxing fans, we want some real action in the ring and doesn't like boxers who doesn't take risk, just saying.

[Finestream]

^ I'm not really sure if this is a good idea to stream the fight for free, it's going to be a double black eye for Eddie Hearn if he do that. He might be paying Haney with big money already so with that, I think he has lost some money already as it's hard to promote Haney because we all know that he doesn't have that charisma to the boxing fans maybe because of his styles.

But if you look at his records, still very young and undefeated and undisputed at 135 lbs, so that is a big accomplished already. But for us boxing fans, we want some real action in the ring and doesn't like boxers who doesn't take risk, just saying.

I don't think that it is his style though, I mean, look at Shakur they are about the same style but the latter doesn't have any problems when it comes with selling a fight. Their only difference is that Haney being a champion, is a boring one and who don't even know how to market a fight successfully so that he can grab more cash money after the fight and not just his promoter alone. But no, he doesn't care about that because he got no passion about marketing a fight at all and if his last fight wasn't against Loma, I highly doubt that they can afford to gain a decent income.

[Russlenat]

^ I'm not really sure if this is a good idea to stream the fight for free, it's going to be a double black eye for Eddie Hearn if he do that. He might be paying Haney with big money already so with that, I think he has lost some money already as it's hard to promote Haney because we all know that he doesn't have that charisma to the boxing fans maybe because of his styles.

But if you look at his records, still very young and undefeated and undisputed at 135 lbs, so that is a big accomplished already. But for us boxing fans, we want some real action in the ring and doesn't like boxers who doesn't take risk, just saying.

I don't think that it is his style though, I mean, look at Shakur they are about the same style but the latter doesn't have any problems when it comes with selling a fight. Their only difference is that Haney being a champion, is a boring one and who don't even know how to market a fight successfully so that he can grab more cash money after the fight and not just his promoter alone. But no, he doesn't care about that because he got no passion about marketing a fight at all and if his last fight wasn't against Loma, I highly doubt that they can afford to gain a decent income.

Haney was just fortunate because the time were in favor of him that is why he managed to get those belts in a much easier way, some could argue that but I still think that he got all those four easily and without starting from scratch just to unify all those things on his possession. I mean, he waited for the guys to clash first before he makes his entrance so it'll be hitting two birds in just one stone.

But this time, he doesn't think anymore that his time is still on his side that is why he is making a move towards super-light and fight a champion, Regis. Although, there are still problems because it seems to me that they are still not on the same page that is why the contract is still hanging without any signature.

[btc_angela]

^ I'm not really sure if this is a good idea to stream the fight for free, it's going to be a double black eye for Eddie Hearn if he do that. He might be paying Haney with big money already so with that, I think he has lost some money already as it's hard to promote Haney because we all know that he doesn't have that charisma to the boxing fans maybe because of his styles.

But if you look at his records, still very young and undefeated and undisputed at 135 lbs, so that is a big accomplished already. But for us boxing fans, we want some real action in the ring and doesn't like boxers who doesn't take risk, just saying.

I don't think that it is his style though, I mean, look at Shakur they are about the same style but the latter doesn't have any problems when it comes with selling a fight. Their only difference is that Haney being a champion, is a boring one and who don't even know how to market a fight successfully so that he can grab more cash money after the fight and not just his promoter alone. But no, he doesn't care about that because he got no passion about marketing a fight at all and if his last fight wasn't against Loma, I highly doubt that they can afford to gain a decent income.

Haney was just fortunate because the time were in favor of him that is why he managed to get those belts in a much easier way, some could argue that but I still think that he got all those four easily and without starting from scratch just to unify all those things on his possession. I mean, he waited for the guys to clash first before he makes his entrance so it'll be hitting two birds in just one stone.

But this time, he doesn't think anymore that his time is still on his side that is why he is making a move towards super-light and fight a champion, Regis. Although, there are still problems because it seems to me that they are still not on the same page that is why the contract is still hanging without any signature.

And even the boxing community is still divided if he really win against Loma to unify the belts. There are arguments that he lost the second half of the fight as Loma started to get into his groove and easily winning rounds. But he won already and he doesn't want to give Loma his rematch, although there could be no rematch clause that's why he is not forced to it.

But he decided to move up in weight class, avoid another great boxer in Shakur at 135 lbs. But still though, it will not be an easy fight against a power puncher in Regis here, so there's still a big risk for the Haney's here ducking Stevenson at moving up directly to face the champion in Prograis.

[Distinctin]

^ I'm not really sure if this is a good idea to stream the fight for free, it's going to be a double black eye for Eddie Hearn if he do that. He might be paying Haney with big money already so with that, I think he has lost some money already as it's hard to promote Haney because we all know that he doesn't have that charisma to the boxing fans maybe because of his styles.

But if you look at his records, still very young and undefeated and undisputed at 135 lbs, so that is a big accomplished already. But for us boxing fans, we want some real action in the ring and doesn't like boxers who doesn't take risk, just saying.

I don't think that it is his style though, I mean, look at Shakur they are about the same style but the latter doesn't have any problems when it comes with selling a fight. Their only difference is that Haney being a champion, is a boring one and who don't even know how to market a fight successfully so that he can grab more cash money after the fight and not just his promoter alone. But no, he doesn't care about that because he got no passion about marketing a fight at all and if his last fight wasn't against Loma, I highly doubt that they can afford to gain a decent income.

Haney was just fortunate because the time were in favor of him that is why he managed to get those belts in a much easier way, some could argue that but I still think that he got all those four easily and without starting from scratch just to unify all those things on his possession. I mean, he waited for the guys to clash first before he makes his entrance so it'll be hitting two birds in just one stone.

But this time, he doesn't think anymore that his time is still on his side that is why he is making a move towards super-light and fight a champion, Regis. Although, there are still problems because it seems to me that they are still not on the same page that is why the contract is still hanging without any signature.

And even the boxing community is still divided if he really win against Loma to unify the belts. There are arguments that he lost the second half of the fight as Loma started to get into his groove and easily winning rounds. But he won already and he doesn't want to give Loma his rematch, although there could be no rematch clause that's why he is not forced to it.

There are indeed fans who believed he lost, much like some who think Mayweather wasn't undefeated because he lost to Castillo. The judges' decision was final, and if Loma wanted to secure a win, he should have dominated the fight. However, when we compare Loma to Haney, there's no question that Loma has a large fan base due to his boxing style. He isn't as boring as Haney.

But he decided to move up in weight class, avoid another great boxer in Shakur at 135 lbs. But still though, it will not be an easy fight against a power puncher in Regis here, so there's still a big risk for the Haney's here ducking Stevenson at moving up directly to face the champion in Prograis.

Moving up and facing the champion is harder than staying and facing the challenger, as he has to prove himself all over again that he can carry his power. It's a gamble on his part, so let's see if he can continue dominating as he did in the division he left.

[Kemarit]

^ I don't think that Haney has power though, he hasn't proved anything, when he got the belts from Kambosos and Loma it's all decision.
But if we are talking about Regis, yeah, I do believed and we know that he has the power at 140 lbs as he face a lot of good opposition here and has 82% knockout ratio. After his lost to Josh Taylor, he had 4 fight winning streak either by KO/TKO.
So I do agree that this is going to be very hard for Haney, the only way I see him winning his by using his technical skills again and try to outsmart Regis and obviously, not to get caught by that power.

[inthelongrun]

Last time I read, this fight is still a go, but the date has change and it's going to be around December 9. So that is a big push already from the original date of October, but just like the rest of you guys, the question is, is this a PPV worthy for us boxing fans? Or at least they should have streamed this for free?

I mean we have been discussing that they might be losing some money already here and so I'm thinking that it might be good if they will just go for free and so they won't be disappointed with the PPV numbers that will come later.

At least this fight is still happening. I can sense that Devin Haney won't fight Shakur Stevenson anyway even if this fight fails to materialize. And I don't think Haney is a PPV guy. He hugs a lot and he doesn't care about lack of action for as long as he wins. I would rather pay to see Regis Prograis than Haney although the former is not that popular among boxing casuals.

^ I don't think that Haney has power though, he hasn't proved anything, when he got the belts from Kambosos and Loma it's all decision.
But if we are talking about Regis, yeah, I do believed and we know that he has the power at 140 lbs as he face a lot of good opposition here and has 82% knockout ratio. After his lost to Josh Taylor, he had 4 fight winning streak either by KO/TKO.
So I do agree that this is going to be very hard for Haney, the only way I see him winning his by using his technical skills again and try to outsmart Regis and obviously, not to get caught by that power.

We're also curious if Regis Prograis just had an off-night during his last fight and if he is already past his prime. Devin Haney picked him over lineal champion Teofimo Lopez for a reason. But still, I am hoping that Regis will be back to his usual self and land those big bombs on Haney.

[Kemarit]

^ I don't think that Haney has power though, he hasn't proved anything, when he got the belts from Kambosos and Loma it's all decision.
But if we are talking about Regis, yeah, I do believed and we know that he has the power at 140 lbs as he face a lot of good opposition here and has 82% knockout ratio. After his lost to Josh Taylor, he had 4 fight winning streak either by KO/TKO.
So I do agree that this is going to be very hard for Haney, the only way I see him winning his by using his technical skills again and try to outsmart Regis and obviously, not to get caught by that power.

We're also curious if Regis Prograis just had an off-night during his last fight and if he is already past his prime. Devin Haney picked him over lineal champion Teofimo Lopez for a reason. But still, I am hoping that Regis will be back to his usual self and land those big bombs on Haney.

Yes, I do agree, most likely, as least from what I see, he might be just an off night for Regis against Zorilla. But we should give credit to Zorilla, although he goes down in round 3, but was able to go to distance.
And also maybe the clash of style itself, Zorilla adjusted and just give everything he had that's why at least one of the judges score for him in a close and narrow 114-113. But the 2 judges have it for Regis to win the WBC belt.
So I guess Regis can still the pull the trigger and give Haney a good fight.

[freedomgo]

^ I don't think that Haney has power though, he hasn't proved anything, when he got the belts from Kambosos and Loma it's all decision.
But if we are talking about Regis, yeah, I do believed and we know that he has the power at 140 lbs as he face a lot of good opposition here and has 82% knockout ratio. After his lost to Josh Taylor, he had 4 fight winning streak either by KO/TKO.
So I do agree that this is going to be very hard for Haney, the only way I see him winning his by using his technical skills again and try to outsmart Regis and obviously, not to get caught by that power.

We're also curious if Regis Prograis just had an off-night during his last fight and if he is already past his prime. Devin Haney picked him over lineal champion Teofimo Lopez for a reason. But still, I am hoping that Regis will be back to his usual self and land those big bombs on Haney.

Yes, I do agree, most likely, as least from what I see, he might be just an off night for Regis against Zorilla. But we should give credit to Zorilla, although he goes down in round 3, but was able to go to distance.
And also maybe the clash of style itself, Zorilla adjusted and just give everything he had that's why at least one of the judges score for him in a close and narrow 114-113. But the 2 judges have it for Regis to win the WBC belt.
So I guess Regis can still the pull the trigger and give Haney a good fight.

Let's not forget that they are still human beings like us who will make some mistakes along the road, I believe that the true strong boxers have their own share of losses and it will be their motivation to bounce back and fight like there's nothing to lose anymore. Sure those who were undefeated until they retire are strong but for me though, I'm not really impressed because they chose a much safer way.

This time, we will see if Haney will make his mistake because he chose Regis particularly as he believed that the latter is now weaker compared to Lopez. We will know it soon but I got a feeling that this will be Haney's first defeat.

[OgNasty]

I have no idea what the outcome of this fight will be and to be completely honest I don’t even know who Regis Prograis is, but I have heard Devin Haney in the news for Bradley Martin (a podcaster) saying he could kick Devin’s ass in a street fight. Whatever happens with this fight, I hope it leads to a match between Bradley & Devin.

[inthelongrun]

^ I don't think that Haney has power though, he hasn't proved anything, when he got the belts from Kambosos and Loma it's all decision.
But if we are talking about Regis, yeah, I do believed and we know that he has the power at 140 lbs as he face a lot of good opposition here and has 82% knockout ratio. After his lost to Josh Taylor, he had 4 fight winning streak either by KO/TKO.
So I do agree that this is going to be very hard for Haney, the only way I see him winning his by using his technical skills again and try to outsmart Regis and obviously, not to get caught by that power.

We're also curious if Regis Prograis just had an off-night during his last fight and if he is already past his prime. Devin Haney picked him over lineal champion Teofimo Lopez for a reason. But still, I am hoping that Regis will be back to his usual self and land those big bombs on Haney.

Yes, I do agree, most likely, as least from what I see, he might be just an off night for Regis against Zorilla. But we should give credit to Zorilla, although he goes down in round 3, but was able to go to distance.
And also maybe the clash of style itself, Zorilla adjusted and just give everything he had that's why at least one of the judges score for him in a close and narrow 114-113. But the 2 judges have it for Regis to win the WBC belt.
So I guess Regis can still the pull the trigger and give Haney a good fight.

Let's not forget that they are still human beings like us who will make some mistakes along the road, I believe that the true strong boxers have their own share of losses and it will be their motivation to bounce back and fight like there's nothing to lose anymore. Sure those who were undefeated until they retire are strong but for me though, I'm not really impressed because they chose a much safer way.

This time, we will see if Haney will make his mistake because he chose Regis particularly as he believed that the latter is now weaker compared to Lopez. We will know it soon but I got a feeling that this will be Haney's first defeat.

The venue for this fight is in San Franciso, California which Devin Haney came from. The crowd is probably pro-Haney but hopefully, it won't be the case and they will boo him if he keeps on hugging and throwing illegal punches, especially during clinches.

In case Haney wins this fight. I really doubt the kid stays undefeated for long even if he cherry-picks a lot. I felt like his power is not that dangerous so more and more fighters won't be scared to risk moving forward to land their power shots.

[btc_angela]

I have no idea what the outcome of this fight will be and to be completely honest I don’t even know who Regis Prograis is, but I have heard Devin Haney in the news for Bradley Martin (a podcaster) saying he could kick Devin’s ass in a street fight. Whatever happens with this fight, I hope it leads to a match between Bradley & Devin.

And that is the thing with Regis and I think most of the 140 lbs fighters, they are not well known by casual fans (sorry Og). But Regis did give Josh Taylor a good fight, and if you are not well aware of, Josh was the former 140 lbs unified belt holder, meaning he holds the 4 major belts (WBC/WBO/WBA/IBF) in modern era.

That's why this fight is going to be interesting and intriguing how Haney will handle the power of Regis, or if he can outbox a power puncher in full 12 rounds because sooner or later he will hit at least one good shot at Haney and we will see how he will react to it.

[Questat]

That's why this fight is going to be interesting and intriguing how Haney will handle the power of Regis, or if he can outbox a power puncher in full 12 rounds because sooner or later he will hit at least one good shot at Haney and we will see how he will react to it.

Haney should be able to handle that power by evading those punches. With his defensive style and quickness, he can frustrate Regis and disrupt his concentration during the fight. That's why it's understandable that even though Regis is the champion, sportsbooks still rate Haney as the favorite to win.

[btc_angela]

That's why this fight is going to be interesting and intriguing how Haney will handle the power of Regis, or if he can outbox a power puncher in full 12 rounds because sooner or later he will hit at least one good shot at Haney and we will see how he will react to it.

Haney should be able to handle that power by evading those punches. With his defensive style and quickness, he can frustrate Regis and disrupt his concentration during the fight. That's why it's understandable that even though Regis is the champion, sportsbooks still rate Haney as the favorite to win.

We really don't know that yet, if he can handle such power, just look at his fight against Linares, he wobbled after he got tagged,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpEmi1b6vZQ

So just imagine if a power puncher like Prograis can hit that maybe around 80%, for sure it might take a toll on Haney. No doubt that he is good in his defense, but he is not Floyd though, he can still be tag and feel the power of his opponents. It's just a matter before he can be touch by someone with a power and goes down and we will see if he can recover or not. So in this fight still a risk on Haney to keep his records, just saying.

[inthelongrun]

That's why this fight is going to be interesting and intriguing how Haney will handle the power of Regis, or if he can outbox a power puncher in full 12 rounds because sooner or later he will hit at least one good shot at Haney and we will see how he will react to it.

Haney should be able to handle that power by evading those punches. With his defensive style and quickness, he can frustrate Regis and disrupt his concentration during the fight. That's why it's understandable that even though Regis is the champion, sportsbooks still rate Haney as the favorite to win.

We really don't know that yet, if he can handle such power, just look at his fight against Linares, he wobbled after he got tagged,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpEmi1b6vZQ

So just imagine if a power puncher like Prograis can hit that maybe around 80%, for sure it might take a toll on Haney. No doubt that he is good in his defense, but he is not Floyd though, he can still be tag and feel the power of his opponents. It's just a matter before he can be touch by someone with a power and goes down and we will see if he can recover or not. So in this fight still a risk on Haney to keep his records, just saying.

I also believe that Haney cannot handle getting hit by a powerful puncher like Prograis. He got wobbled by an old Linares and he looked hurt against Lomachencko as well. And he is also moving up in weight which means he is also fighting a bigger guy whom I believe will be stronger than him.

But maybe Haney learned a lot from his past experiences and is becoming better with his defense. While Prograis had a bad performance in his last fight some believe that he might be past his prime already and he is also in his mid-30s.

[freedomgo]

I also believe that Haney cannot handle getting hit by a powerful puncher like Prograis. He got wobbled by an old Linares and he looked hurt against Lomachencko as well. And he is also moving up in weight which means he is also fighting a bigger guy whom I believe will be stronger than him.

But maybe Haney learned a lot from his past experiences and is becoming better with his defense. While Prograis had a bad performance in his last fight some believe that he might be past his prime already and he is also in his mid-30s.

The question is, will Prograis be able to land punches on Haney? I mean, we know that Haney has mastered his defensive skills in boxing and has improved as he identified weaknesses in his previous fights. So, many still believe that Haney would win, despite being the challenger. While Prograis is known as a KO artist, Haney has faced KO artists in the past and has successfully handed them defeats.

[Kemarit]

I also believe that Haney cannot handle getting hit by a powerful puncher like Prograis. He got wobbled by an old Linares and he looked hurt against Lomachencko as well. And he is also moving up in weight which means he is also fighting a bigger guy whom I believe will be stronger than him.

But maybe Haney learned a lot from his past experiences and is becoming better with his defense. While Prograis had a bad performance in his last fight some believe that he might be past his prime already and he is also in his mid-30s.

The question is, will Prograis be able to land punches on Haney? I mean, we know that Haney has mastered his defensive skills in boxing and has improved as he identified weaknesses in his previous fights. So, many still believe that Haney would win, despite being the challenger. While Prograis is known as a KO artist, Haney has faced KO artists in the past and has successfully handed them defeats.

Yes, we will have to see that, I think Regis will really go out early and test the chin of Haney from round 1 and see if it can hold or not.
And we all know that a power puncher like him will have to land at least one good punch.
Haney is very defensive, but we can see that he sometimes slip as well. Even in the Kambosos fight, he got tag a couple.
So it will be interesting on how Haney will deal the power if he tasted it, or will just play pure defense and win on the judges hands.

[Iranus]

I also believe that Haney cannot handle getting hit by a powerful puncher like Prograis. He got wobbled by an old Linares and he looked hurt against Lomachencko as well. And he is also moving up in weight which means he is also fighting a bigger guy whom I believe will be stronger than him.

But maybe Haney learned a lot from his past experiences and is becoming better with his defense. While Prograis had a bad performance in his last fight some believe that he might be past his prime already and he is also in his mid-30s.

The question is, will Prograis be able to land punches on Haney? I mean, we know that Haney has mastered his defensive skills in boxing and has improved as he identified weaknesses in his previous fights. So, many still believe that Haney would win, despite being the challenger. While Prograis is known as a KO artist, Haney has faced KO artists in the past and has successfully handed them defeats.

Yes, we will have to see that, I think Regis will really go out early and test the chin of Haney from round 1 and see if it can hold or not.
And we all know that a power puncher like him will have to land at least one good punch.
Haney is very defensive, but we can see that he sometimes slip as well. Even in the Kambosos fight, he got tag a couple.
So it will be interesting on how Haney will deal the power if he tasted it, or will just play pure defense and win on the judges hands.

Haney is really fast. And it is also hard to land punches on a fighter who is faster than average. Personally, I think a fighter who is faster can actually gain an advantage over his opponent. But both of them are great fighters. And just because one is faster, compared to the other does not mean that the other fighter who can punch really powerfully is not going to be able to adapt. I think we have a very interesting fight upcoming. Haney will have to get out of the way of his opponent's hand if he wants to win this fight. Otherwise, he is definitely going to get knocked out for sure.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I also believe that Haney cannot handle getting hit by a powerful puncher like Prograis. He got wobbled by an old Linares and he looked hurt against Lomachencko as well. And he is also moving up in weight which means he is also fighting a bigger guy whom I believe will be stronger than him.

But maybe Haney learned a lot from his past experiences and is becoming better with his defense. While Prograis had a bad performance in his last fight some believe that he might be past his prime already and he is also in his mid-30s.

The question is, will Prograis be able to land punches on Haney? I mean, we know that Haney has mastered his defensive skills in boxing and has improved as he identified weaknesses in his previous fights. So, many still believe that Haney would win, despite being the challenger. While Prograis is known as a KO artist, Haney has faced KO artists in the past and has successfully handed them defeats.

Yes, we will have to see that, I think Regis will really go out early and test the chin of Haney from round 1 and see if it can hold or not.
And we all know that a power puncher like him will have to land at least one good punch.
Haney is very defensive, but we can see that he sometimes slip as well. Even in the Kambosos fight, he got tag a couple.
So it will be interesting on how Haney will deal the power if he tasted it, or will just play pure defense and win on the judges hands.

Haney is really fast. And it is also hard to land punches on a fighter who is faster than average. Personally, I think a fighter who is faster can actually gain an advantage over his opponent. But both of them are great fighters. And just because one is faster, compared to the other does not mean that the other fighter who can punch really powerfully is not going to be able to adapt. I think we have a very interesting fight upcoming. Haney will have to get out of the way of his opponent's hand if he wants to win this fight. Otherwise, he is definitely going to get knocked out for sure.

I don't think that Haney is fast though, and I think he hasn't face a fighter that is very quick. He was almost beaten by an old Loma and there are those who think that Loma was robbed during that fight because he was wobbled and Loma try to rally late in the fight.

But I do agree that this could be a chess match, Prograis trying to hit that one punch, and then Loma trying his best to avoid it. So who ever adapts and had a good ring IQ might win this fight.

[Iranus]

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I don't think that Haney is fast though, and I think he hasn't face a fighter that is very quick. He was almost beaten by an old Loma and there are those who think that Loma was robbed during that fight because he was wobbled and Loma try to rally late in the fight.

But I do agree that this could be a chess match, Prograis trying to hit that one punch, and then Loma trying his best to avoid it. So who ever adapts and had a good ring IQ might win this fight.

I actually think that he is fast and we also know that guys who are more muscular and have a lot of muscles are generally not that fast. So I think Haney is going to be alright.

One thing that might be a problem is him not being very confident. As you said, he almost lost against Loma. That is definitely going to give his opponent more confidence. Prograis is definitely going to be harder to beat. Each of them has to predict what the other is going to do. That's the way both of them will be able to avoid the opponent effectively.

[Distinctin]

-snip

I don't think that Haney is fast though, and I think he hasn't face a fighter that is very quick. He was almost beaten by an old Loma and there are those who think that Loma was robbed during that fight because he was wobbled and Loma try to rally late in the fight.

But I do agree that this could be a chess match, Prograis trying to hit that one punch, and then Loma trying his best to avoid it. So who ever adapts and had a good ring IQ might win this fight.

I actually think that he is fast and we also know that guys who are more muscular and have a lot of muscles are generally not that fast. So I think Haney is going to be alright.

One thing that might be a problem is him not being very confident. As you said, he almost lost against Loma. That is definitely going to give his opponent more confidence. Prograis is definitely going to be harder to beat. Each of them has to predict what the other is going to do. That's the way both of them will be able to avoid the opponent effectively.

I don't know if Haney will feel inferior against Prograis. Loma is a different fighter than Prograis; in fact, Loma was included in the top pound-for-pound boxers in the world, so he is more popular compared to Prograis, whose name is relatively new despite being the current champion. So, I guess Haney still has the upper hand here; he is the more popular boxer, and I don't think he will face any problems with his performance in a higher weight class.

[btc_angela]

Speaking of Haney though, a new interview surfaces about him becoming the fighter of the year,

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dCdZcnF-FMs

Most likely, if he wins against Regis and his performance against Loma.

On the other hand, the one side beating of Crawford against Spence could also be a good candidate for FOTY.

And as well as Canelo's performance against Jermell Charlo.

So let's see it first, if Haney can avoid the big left punch of Regis as he also said in his previous interviews that he is ready for it.

[TravelMug]

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I don't think that Haney is fast though, and I think he hasn't face a fighter that is very quick. He was almost beaten by an old Loma and there are those who think that Loma was robbed during that fight because he was wobbled and Loma try to rally late in the fight.

But I do agree that this could be a chess match, Prograis trying to hit that one punch, and then Loma trying his best to avoid it. So who ever adapts and had a good ring IQ might win this fight.

I actually think that he is fast and we also know that guys who are more muscular and have a lot of muscles are generally not that fast. So I think Haney is going to be alright.

One thing that might be a problem is him not being very confident. As you said, he almost lost against Loma. That is definitely going to give his opponent more confidence. Prograis is definitely going to be harder to beat. Each of them has to predict what the other is going to do. That's the way both of them will be able to avoid the opponent effectively.

I don't know if Haney will feel inferior against Prograis. Loma is a different fighter than Prograis; in fact, Loma was included in the top pound-for-pound boxers in the world, so he is more popular compared to Prograis, whose name is relatively new despite being the current champion. So, I guess Haney still has the upper hand here; he is the more popular boxer, and I don't think he will face any problems with his performance in a higher weight class.

It's because 140 lbs is not that well known, but if haven't heard though, there are two champions that have unified that division recently. Crawford did it first and then Josh Taylor who beat everyone, including Regis Prograis to get all the 4 belts. But it was short lived though, because after being undisputed, he lost all the belt, have a close fight with Jack Catterall, who the majority thinks he lost, didn't give him the rematch. And then he fight Teo Lopez and lost badly.

And eventually Regis got another belt become a champion. So he is not like a push over fight for Haney. It's going to be very difficult for him, although Haney could have all the tools as he is one of the best defensive fighters we have today. And so he might avoid that power of Regis and score points and win in the judges score card. It could be boring for some fans though if Haney will just play defensive throughout the fight. But that is his style and so Regis should be more aggressive and be a volume puncher here and not feel in love with his so called power.

[Japinat]

Speaking of Haney though, a new interview surfaces about him becoming the fighter of the year,

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dCdZcnF-FMs

Most likely, if he wins against Regis and his performance against Loma.

On the other hand, the one side beating of Crawford against Spence could also be a good candidate for FOTY.

And as well as Canelo's performance against Jermell Charlo.

So let's see it first, if Haney can avoid the big left punch of Regis as he also said in his previous interviews that he is ready for it.

Well, he could still win a Fighter of the Year award, even if some people find him a bit boring. The guy just keeps winning and taking on some top names in boxing, like Loma, and now he's trying to move up and challenge the champion. If he manages to pull that off, he'll definitely be a top contender for those awards.

I used to think that a boxer had to be entertaining to win Fighter of the Year, but after a quick bit of research, I found out that even his idol won multiple awards, and he even earned the Fighter of the Decade award.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Mayweather_Jr.

Mayweather was named "Fighter of the Decade" for the 2010s by the Boxing Writers Association of America (BWAA), a two-time winner of The Ring magazine's Fighter of the Year award (1998 and 2007), a three-time winner of the BWAA Fighter of the Year award (2007, 2013, and 2015), and a six-time winner of the Best Fighter ESPY Award (2007–2010, 2012–2014).[2][3] In 2016, ESPN ranked him the greatest boxer, pound for pound, of the last 25 years.[4] As of May 2023, BoxRec ranks him the second greatest boxer of all time, pound for pound.[5][6][7] Many sporting news and boxing websites, including The Ring, Sports Illustrated, ESPN, BoxRec, Fox Sports, and Yahoo! Sports, ranked Mayweather as the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world twice in a span of ten years.[8][9][10][11][12][13]

[Baofeng]

Here is the video of the initial press conference to promote the fight,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzY12CDWpT0

Skill vs skills, it's not power vs skill as per Regis, he said that he is training very hard so we will see what skills he is talking about here.

So there's a lot of heated words thrown against each other already and so this is going to be going to be a interesting fight.

[Kasabus]

Here is the video of the initial press conference to promote the fight,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzY12CDWpT0

Skill vs skills, it's not power vs skill as per Regis, he said that he is training very hard so we will see what skills he is talking about here.

So there's a lot of heated words thrown against each other already and so this is going to be going to be a interesting fight.

Thanks for sharing the video. Hey @OP, we might miss this fight if we don't bookmark the schedule. I'd like to request you to add the date to the thread title. This way, it can serve as a reminder for all the fans not to miss it.

Now, about the fighters – I thought Prograis was more of a quiet guy, but it's cool to see that his ego is getting a little boost because he sees Haney as a big threat. The fact that he's already being considered for Fighter of the Year might inspire Prograis to train even harder to beat Haney and get into that conversation. Let's be real, Haney is a beast in the ring, but this new weight class and the possibility of some trash talk from Haney is likely to fuel some heated exchanges, making the fight even more interesting.

Anyone here rooting for Prograis to win? or none?.....

[inthelongrun]

Here is the video of the initial press conference to promote the fight,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzY12CDWpT0

Skill vs skills, it's not power vs skill as per Regis, he said that he is training very hard so we will see what skills he is talking about here.

So there's a lot of heated words thrown against each other already and so this is going to be going to be a interesting fight.

Thanks for sharing the video. Hey @OP, we might miss this fight if we don't bookmark the schedule. I'd like to request you to add the date to the thread title. This way, it can serve as a reminder for all the fans not to miss it.

Now, about the fighters – I thought Prograis was more of a quiet guy, but it's cool to see that his ego is getting a little boost because he sees Haney as a big threat. The fact that he's already being considered for Fighter of the Year might inspire Prograis to train even harder to beat Haney and get into that conversation. Let's be real, Haney is a beast in the ring, but this new weight class and the possibility of some trash talk from Haney is likely to fuel some heated exchanges, making the fight even more interesting.

Anyone here rooting for Prograis to win? or none?.....

Thanks for the heads up mate. I already included the date in the title.

Finally, they faced each other in the conference. I am also curious about what Prograis means that he is going to outbox Haney. Or it could be that Prograis is just trying to mislead Haney. The skills are obviously on Haney's side so Prograis has to focus on his strength which is power. But Prograis needs to work on his strength because he cannot allow Haney to just hug him and then hit him.

It's funny how a lot of the loudest mouths in boxing aren't the KO artists. Guys like Haney, Mayweather Jr., Jermell Charlo, etc. And you can seldom hear KO artists like Beterbiev and Prograis initiate the trash-talking.

I already voted for Haney by decision but personally, I want Prograis to win. So I support Prograis because he is the more exciting fighter by delivering knockouts in most of his fights.

[bisdak40]

I already voted for Haney by decision but personally, I want Prograis to win. So I support Prograis because he is the more exciting fighter by delivering knockouts in most of his fights.

Same here. Haney is a boring fighter and he should not be undisputed at the moment as Loma schooled him hehe. I just hope though that Prograis would knock him out because if this goes the distance, most likely Haney will win by decision as judges will favor him. We may not like him but Haney has also this amazing "Mayweather-like" defense.

[Kasabus]

Here is the video of the initial press conference to promote the fight,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzY12CDWpT0

Skill vs skills, it's not power vs skill as per Regis, he said that he is training very hard so we will see what skills he is talking about here.

So there's a lot of heated words thrown against each other already and so this is going to be going to be a interesting fight.

Thanks for sharing the video. Hey @OP, we might miss this fight if we don't bookmark the schedule. I'd like to request you to add the date to the thread title. This way, it can serve as a reminder for all the fans not to miss it.

Now, about the fighters – I thought Prograis was more of a quiet guy, but it's cool to see that his ego is getting a little boost because he sees Haney as a big threat. The fact that he's already being considered for Fighter of the Year might inspire Prograis to train even harder to beat Haney and get into that conversation. Let's be real, Haney is a beast in the ring, but this new weight class and the possibility of some trash talk from Haney is likely to fuel some heated exchanges, making the fight even more interesting.

Anyone here rooting for Prograis to win? or none?.....

Thanks for the heads up mate. I already included the date in the title.

Finally, they faced each other in the conference. I am also curious about what Prograis means that he is going to outbox Haney. Or it could be that Prograis is just trying to mislead Haney. The skills are obviously on Haney's side so Prograis has to focus on his strength which is power. But Prograis needs to work on his strength because he cannot allow Haney to just hug him and then hit him.

It's funny how a lot of the loudest mouths in boxing aren't the KO artists. Guys like Haney, Mayweather Jr., Jermell Charlo, etc. And you can seldom hear KO artists like Beterbiev and Prograis initiate the trash-talking.

I already voted for Haney by decision but personally, I want Prograis to win. So I support Prograis because he is the more exciting fighter by delivering knockouts in most of his fights.

You've nailed it. They are likely acting with a loud mouth because they want to attract fans. It worked for Mayweather, so they follow the same strategy. They aren't KO artists; people might only feel sleepy watching their fights, so they perform actions before the fight which are their trash talks to their opponents. It's also funny that, despite our criticism, we still can't resist watching them. Maybe some of us want to see them lose, but they remain undefeated until now. This way, they gain fans from both their haters and supporters.

[bitterguy28]

I already voted for Haney by decision but personally, I want Prograis to win. So I support Prograis because he is the more exciting fighter by delivering knockouts in most of his fights.

Same here. Haney is a boring fighter and he should not be undisputed at the moment as Loma schooled him hehe. I just hope though that Prograis would knock him out because if this goes the distance, most likely Haney will win by decision as judges will favor him. We may not like him but Haney has also this amazing "Mayweather-like" defense.

Why it seems that we are almost have the same feeling and looks about how Boring Haney being a gambler so I believe that he will not have that kind of popularity once become the Undisputed .
and also having a Mayweather defense style? this proves only that boredom in each of His fight.
Prograis on the other Hand is a tough and enjoyable fighter to watch , have been following him for some time and yes voting for him to win this one.

[Hypnosis00]

I already voted for Haney by decision but personally, I want Prograis to win. So I support Prograis because he is the more exciting fighter by delivering knockouts in most of his fights.

Same here. Haney is a boring fighter and he should not be undisputed at the moment as Loma schooled him hehe. I just hope though that Prograis would knock him out because if this goes the distance, most likely Haney will win by decision as judges will favor him. We may not like him but Haney has also this amazing "Mayweather-like" defense.

It would be another controversial outcome if he got schooled, survived the fight, but was able to win via judges' scorecards. It's pretty obvious that they want to keep him undefeated and market him in the future as the new face of boxing—typical rigging, which is rampant in boxing.

Haney has to win this one convincingly. It doesn't matter if he's boring; we can't do anything about that. But as the challenger, he should make the champion look like an amateur, so he will not be questioned.

[FinneysTrueVision]

I already voted for Haney by decision but personally, I want Prograis to win. So I support Prograis because he is the more exciting fighter by delivering knockouts in most of his fights.

Same here. Haney is a boring fighter and he should not be undisputed at the moment as Loma schooled him hehe. I just hope though that Prograis would knock him out because if this goes the distance, most likely Haney will win by decision as judges will favor him. We may not like him but Haney has also this amazing "Mayweather-like" defense.

Haney might try to emulate Mayweather’s style but he is a cheap knock-off. Since becoming champion none of his fights have been entertaining. Gamboa is a fighter that gets dropped almost every fight and Haney couldn’t hurt him. Linares, another washed up old guy hurt him badly. Joseph Diaz made him look average.

I think Haney will probably win but it’ll be like most of his other fights where he hugs his opponent all night.

[Russlenat]

I already voted for Haney by decision but personally, I want Prograis to win. So I support Prograis because he is the more exciting fighter by delivering knockouts in most of his fights.

Same here. Haney is a boring fighter and he should not be undisputed at the moment as Loma schooled him hehe. I just hope though that Prograis would knock him out because if this goes the distance, most likely Haney will win by decision as judges will favor him. We may not like him but Haney has also this amazing "Mayweather-like" defense.

Haney might try to emulate Mayweather’s style but he is a cheap knock-off. Since becoming champion none of his fights have been entertaining. Gamboa is a fighter that gets dropped almost every fight and Haney couldn’t hurt him. Linares, another washed up old guy hurt him badly. Joseph Diaz made him look average.

I think Haney will probably win but it’ll be like most of his other fights where he hugs his opponent all night.

I found the Devin Haney vs. George Kambosos 2 fight to be very entertaining. Haney still won that fight, but I saw more action compared to his previous fights. Kambosos was a champion too, but he was outclassed by Haney. Not only is Haney quick and very smart with his strategy, but I could also tell during that specific fight that he has a solid chin.

So, I think he is really ready to face Prograis, who is a powerful puncher. I hope he won't be boring to watch, where all he does is hit and run, similar to his mentor. Obviously, he would win if the basis is only scoring, but that would leave the fans dissatisfied for this championship fight. I don't know if he is a PPV attraction, but if he is, he should improve his fighting style to entertain the fans more.

[yazher]

Why it seems that we are almost have the same feeling and looks about how Boring Haney being a gambler so I believe that he will not have that kind of popularity once become the Undisputed .
and also having a Mayweather defense style? this proves only that boredom in each of His fight.
Prograis on the other Hand is a tough and enjoyable fighter to watch , have been following him for some time and yes voting for him to win this one.

I think the only way for him to make his name shine is to beat every opponent by knockout no matter how strong they are and how much knockout power they have, as long as he smoothly beats them. But if he continues to have that running style and wins by points every time he gets in the ring, he won't be getting any addition to his current fame because we all know that someone like Gervonta Davis is the one who sells more in this kind of sport.

[btc_angela]

I already voted for Haney by decision but personally, I want Prograis to win. So I support Prograis because he is the more exciting fighter by delivering knockouts in most of his fights.

Same here. Haney is a boring fighter and he should not be undisputed at the moment as Loma schooled him hehe. I just hope though that Prograis would knock him out because if this goes the distance, most likely Haney will win by decision as judges will favor him. We may not like him but Haney has also this amazing "Mayweather-like" defense.

Haney might try to emulate Mayweather’s style but he is a cheap knock-off. Since becoming champion none of his fights have been entertaining. Gamboa is a fighter that gets dropped almost every fight and Haney couldn’t hurt him. Linares, another washed up old guy hurt him badly. Joseph Diaz made him look average.

I think Haney will probably win but it’ll be like most of his other fights where he hugs his opponent all night.

Lol, but yeah, it's true, you forget to add one more fight, his controversial win against Loma. Others score it in favor of Loma and Haney even admits to his father that they have been exposed or at least their strategy is no longer working during the middle of the fight itself. So most likely, it will be like a hit and run and then hug Regis to avoid his power punch.

And then it will leave a bad taste for fighting fans again and really see how boring Haney's fight it. Although he has accomplished a lot at a young age and we can't deny that. But sometimes we wanted to see great fights, toe to toe like Pacman.

[Yaunfitda]

I already voted for Haney by decision but personally, I want Prograis to win. So I support Prograis because he is the more exciting fighter by delivering knockouts in most of his fights.

Same here. Haney is a boring fighter and he should not be undisputed at the moment as Loma schooled him hehe. I just hope though that Prograis would knock him out because if this goes the distance, most likely Haney will win by decision as judges will favor him. We may not like him but Haney has also this amazing "Mayweather-like" defense.

It's really a robbery from what we saw during the Loma vs Haney fight and what makes it annoying though is some of us lost in that fight when we clearly see that Loma is ahead on our score. So it could be rigged as well or the judges are in the pockets to give Haney the W.

Hopefully, Regis can back it up against Haney, I think Haney hasn't face a knockout artist like a southpaw like Prograis is. So this might gave Haney a problem. And Regis is really very confident that he will send Haney to the canvass and then score a knockout victory and give Haney his first L. But I wanted to see Regis put Haney first and wobble him like what Maidana did to Broner, that stanky feet.

[inthelongrun]

So it's still almost a month before this fight. And just like most fight fans, Eddie Hearn is also anxious about this fight. Only the result of this fight will determine if Haney is really good and is stronger in this division since he was struggling at 135. Or Haney isn't good and was only good at 135 due to his size advantage.

Still, it is Teofimo Lopez as the man to beat in this division after beating Taylor. I am curious about what's next in this division. We want to see unifications or at least the top names fighting each other.

[btc_angela]

So it's still almost a month before this fight. And just like most fight fans, Eddie Hearn is also anxious about this fight. Only the result of this fight will determine if Haney is really good and is stronger in this division since he was struggling at 135. Or Haney isn't good and was only good at 135 due to his size advantage.

Still, it is Teofimo Lopez as the man to beat in this division after beating Taylor. I am curious about what's next in this division. We want to see unifications or at least the top names fighting each other.

I do agree, I think in this division, since Teo beat the former unified champion in Teo Lopez, he will be the man to beat at 140 lbs. Haney is not yet tested, but Prograis is a champion, he doesn't have that kind of pop in his name.

Ryan Garcia is yet to make his name in this division, he will have a hard time facing a knockout artist in Duarte. If he wins that one, for sure he will call out names here. Might be good to see him and Teo Lopez though, could be the biggest fight at 140 lbs and Ryan making a lot of money again.

But let's wait for the outcome of his fight, and still good to see Prograis a huge underdog.

[inthelongrun]

So it's still almost a month before this fight. And just like most fight fans, Eddie Hearn is also anxious about this fight. Only the result of this fight will determine if Haney is really good and is stronger in this division since he was struggling at 135. Or Haney isn't good and was only good at 135 due to his size advantage.

Still, it is Teofimo Lopez as the man to beat in this division after beating Taylor. I am curious about what's next in this division. We want to see unifications or at least the top names fighting each other.

I do agree, I think in this division, since Teo beat the former unified champion in Teo Lopez, he will be the man to beat at 140 lbs. Haney is not yet tested, but Prograis is a champion, he doesn't have that kind of pop in his name.

Ryan Garcia is yet to make his name in this division, he will have a hard time facing a knockout artist in Duarte. If he wins that one, for sure he will call out names here. Might be good to see him and Teo Lopez though, could be the biggest fight at 140 lbs and Ryan making a lot of money again.

But let's wait for the outcome of his fight, and still good to see Prograis a huge underdog.

I am still doubtful about Ryan's eagerness to face a champion. He is earning big money even if he never fought a belt. So he may continue doing it and just hype the public by calling champions and then in reality he will face non-champions just like what Tank is doing.

But maybe Ryan will dare fight the winner of Prograis and Haney especially if the victor shows many flaws that Ryan believes he can take advantage of. But there's also the issue with Ryan and GBP. Ryan's fight against Duarte might be his last with GBP so his next fight will depend on which promoter he will sign. If he signs with PBC then he might get the easiest undeserving WBA champion of the division, Rolly and there is also the IBF champ Subriel Matias but I guess it'll be suicide for Ryan. Matchroom has WBC champ Prograis and his challenger Devin Haney while Top Rank has the lineal, WBO champion Teofimo Lopez.

[electronicash]

So it's still almost a month before this fight. And just like most fight fans, Eddie Hearn is also anxious about this fight. Only the result of this fight will determine if Haney is really good and is stronger in this division since he was struggling at 135. Or Haney isn't good and was only good at 135 due to his size advantage.

Still, it is Teofimo Lopez as the man to beat in this division after beating Taylor. I am curious about what's next in this division. We want to see unifications or at least the top names fighting each other.

I do agree, I think in this division, since Teo beat the former unified champion in Teo Lopez, he will be the man to beat at 140 lbs. Haney is not yet tested, but Prograis is a champion, he doesn't have that kind of pop in his name.

Ryan Garcia is yet to make his name in this division, he will have a hard time facing a knockout artist in Duarte. If he wins that one, for sure he will call out names here. Might be good to see him and Teo Lopez though, could be the biggest fight at 140 lbs and Ryan making a lot of money again.

But let's wait for the outcome of his fight, and still good to see Prograis a huge underdog.

I am still doubtful about Ryan's eagerness to face a champion. He is earning big money even if he never fought a belt. So he may continue doing it and just hype the public by calling champions and then in reality he will face non-champions just like what Tank is doing.

But maybe Ryan will dare fight the winner of Prograis and Haney especially if the victor shows many flaws that Ryan believes he can take advantage of. But there's also the issue with Ryan and GBP. Ryan's fight against Duarte might be his last with GBP so his next fight will depend on which promoter he will sign. If he signs with PBC then he might get the easiest undeserving WBA champion of the division, Rolly and there is also the IBF champ Subriel Matias but I guess it'll be suicide for Ryan. Matchroom has WBC champ Prograis and his challenger Devin Haney while Top Rank has the lineal, WBO champion Teofimo Lopez.

it's even a wonder why Ryan still fights under GB even when there is litigation going on. they can't just look away from what happened to them, he will part ways with that promotion just like Canelo.

do you think it's gonna be Haney vs Teo after Prograis?  Haney arriving in this division and suddenly getting a shot against Prograis is stirring up the division which Haney vs Teo seems like the plan. but why didn't they just arrange Prograis vs Teo?

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

So it's still almost a month before this fight. And just like most fight fans, Eddie Hearn is also anxious about this fight. Only the result of this fight will determine if Haney is really good and is stronger in this division since he was struggling at 135. Or Haney isn't good and was only good at 135 due to his size advantage.

Still, it is Teofimo Lopez as the man to beat in this division after beating Taylor. I am curious about what's next in this division. We want to see unifications or at least the top names fighting each other.

I do agree, I think in this division, since Teo beat the former unified champion in Teo Lopez, he will be the man to beat at 140 lbs. Haney is not yet tested, but Prograis is a champion, he doesn't have that kind of pop in his name.

Ryan Garcia is yet to make his name in this division, he will have a hard time facing a knockout artist in Duarte. If he wins that one, for sure he will call out names here. Might be good to see him and Teo Lopez though, could be the biggest fight at 140 lbs and Ryan making a lot of money again.

But let's wait for the outcome of his fight, and still good to see Prograis a huge underdog.

I am still doubtful about Ryan's eagerness to face a champion. He is earning big money even if he never fought a belt. So he may continue doing it and just hype the public by calling champions and then in reality he will face non-champions just like what Tank is doing.

But maybe Ryan will dare fight the winner of Prograis and Haney especially if the victor shows many flaws that Ryan believes he can take advantage of. But there's also the issue with Ryan and GBP. Ryan's fight against Duarte might be his last with GBP so his next fight will depend on which promoter he will sign. If he signs with PBC then he might get the easiest undeserving WBA champion of the division, Rolly and there is also the IBF champ Subriel Matias but I guess it'll be suicide for Ryan. Matchroom has WBC champ Prograis and his challenger Devin Haney while Top Rank has the lineal, WBO champion Teofimo Lopez.

it's even a wonder why Ryan still fights under GB even when there is litigation going on. they can't just look away from what happened to them, he will part ways with that promotion just like Canelo.

If he is fighting under GBP then they might have settled their difference already. And Ryan could have been just going to the motions to finished his contract and for sure he will be offered huge money by other promotional companies once he is a free agent.

do you think it's gonna be Haney vs Teo after Prograis?  Haney arriving in this division and suddenly getting a shot against Prograis is stirring up the division which Haney vs Teo seems like the plan. but why didn't they just arrange Prograis vs Teo?

It's kinda complicated though, I mean Teo says that he is going to retire already, and it could be a good news for Haney to really move up in weight class and not face either Davis or Shakur at 135 and chooses Prograis as they think he is a weak champion.

But suddenly like it was just a prank on Teo's end, he suddenly says that he is back. So yeah, it get complicated, but it could be a good fight whichever what happened, Teo vs Regis or Haney at 140 lbs with a unification fight.

[btc_angela]

So it's still almost a month before this fight. And just like most fight fans, Eddie Hearn is also anxious about this fight. Only the result of this fight will determine if Haney is really good and is stronger in this division since he was struggling at 135. Or Haney isn't good and was only good at 135 due to his size advantage.

Still, it is Teofimo Lopez as the man to beat in this division after beating Taylor. I am curious about what's next in this division. We want to see unifications or at least the top names fighting each other.

I do agree, I think in this division, since Teo beat the former unified champion in Teo Lopez, he will be the man to beat at 140 lbs. Haney is not yet tested, but Prograis is a champion, he doesn't have that kind of pop in his name.

Ryan Garcia is yet to make his name in this division, he will have a hard time facing a knockout artist in Duarte. If he wins that one, for sure he will call out names here. Might be good to see him and Teo Lopez though, could be the biggest fight at 140 lbs and Ryan making a lot of money again.

But let's wait for the outcome of his fight, and still good to see Prograis a huge underdog.

I am still doubtful about Ryan's eagerness to face a champion. He is earning big money even if he never fought a belt. So he may continue doing it and just hype the public by calling champions and then in reality he will face non-champions just like what Tank is doing.

Might be, but I'm sensing from Ryan that he wanted to be a real champion, not just in paper so most likely he will try to go and faces the champion at 140 lbs. I think he has a good chance in beating them. As compare to 135 lbs which he has outgrown already and when he fought Davis, it's all for the money.

But maybe Ryan will dare fight the winner of Prograis and Haney especially if the victor shows many flaws that Ryan believes he can take advantage of. But there's also the issue with Ryan and GBP. Ryan's fight against Duarte might be his last with GBP so his next fight will depend on which promoter he will sign. If he signs with PBC then he might get the easiest undeserving WBA champion of the division, Rolly and there is also the IBF champ Subriel Matias but I guess it'll be suicide for Ryan. Matchroom has WBC champ Prograis and his challenger Devin Haney while Top Rank has the lineal, WBO champion Teofimo Lopez.

Yes, I think he has the advantage, Haney is pillow fisted fighter, so chances are slim that he can knock down or knock out Ryan. Prograis has the power, but he is that type of boxer that is flat footed and just fell in love with his power. And that's why he loses to Taylor as he can't him Josh Taylor with his power and Josh uses his boxing skills and movement to stay away from that power.

Hard to comment between Ryan and Oscar case, but yeah, if this is his last fight with Golden Boy then for sure he will move out immediately and sign with a new promoter.

[Baofeng]

I think Ryan has still a fight left at least after his fight to Oscar Duarte.

Oscar dela Hoya says that they are looking at AB, Teo and Haney as his next opponent. So let's see how it will turn out, if he wins and then Haney wins against Prograis, it's going to be a money fight between him and Haney.

Just a matter of negotiations and who will be the A-side. However, with him and Oscar's experience negotiating with Davis to make a super fight, I think it will be done as well.

So depends on this fight and then Ryan winning against Duarte. And the good thing is that their fight is just a weeks apart and with that, we will know the results and maybe next year we might see it.

[danherbias07]

The fight between Ryan Garcia and Oscar Duarte hasn't even started yet and they are now planning another.
@Baofeng, you are right he will still have a fight even if he is defeated by Duarte. This is the proof of it.  
https://boxing-social.com/news/ryan-garcia-called-out-by-former-champ/

It’s no secret that Garcia wants big names, and the President of Golden Boy Promotions, Eric Gomez, recently revealed that they had reached out to one Adrien Broner to start talks.

Broner has now responded, claiming that he knew nothing of the approach and rubbishing the idea that he would ever turn it down.

But it seems like Broner has no knowledge about it yet.

“Golden Boy, I never knew about the offer [for] the fight with Ryan Garcia. I’m just now finding out about that as we speak, but I’m here to let you know that I don’t need a tune up for s**t. After Ryan takes care of business in December we can make it happen ASAP. I’m the same person who fought Manny Pacquiao, why the f**k will I be afraid of saving private Ryan – SEND THE CONTRACT.”

Golden Boy really likes Ryan and I think even if he is defeated many times they will keep on sending him to the boxing ring against anyone.

Ryan Garcia did make a name in the boxing industry and he is young. Veteran boxers would love to have a shot against him to prove that they still have it too. I mean, fighting a young boxer with an advantage in speed and agility will be a good competition for them and somehow this may also put them in the spotlight to get another good fight before their retirement. Money.
Broner doesn't want a tune-up. Let it be official but I don't if that will happen if Ryan Garcia wins this fight on December 2.

[Distinctin]

Oscar dela Hoya says that they are looking at AB, Teo and Haney as his next opponent.

Do you mean Adrien Broner, the 'About Billions' guy? I think his ranking isn't on par with Ryan, or we could say that he's past his prime.

Maybe a matchup with Teo and Haney would be good for Garcia. However, if we're looking for an entertaining fight, Teo could deliver in that regard.

So depends on this fight and then Ryan winning against Duarte. And the good thing is that their fight is just a weeks apart and with that, we will know the results and maybe next year we might see it.

One step at a time, he needs to achieve a successful comeback first. Hopefully, he'll train hard and not underestimate Duarte so that he can secure a win.

Additionally, the victory needs to be impressive, especially since they are aiming for matchups against big names in boxing, all of whom are champions, except for AB.

[btc_angela]

The fight between Ryan Garcia and Oscar Duarte hasn't even started yet and they are now planning another.
@Baofeng, you are right he will still have a fight even if he is defeated by Duarte. This is the proof of it.  
https://boxing-social.com/news/ryan-garcia-called-out-by-former-champ/

It’s no secret that Garcia wants big names, and the President of Golden Boy Promotions, Eric Gomez, recently revealed that they had reached out to one Adrien Broner to start talks.

Broner has now responded, claiming that he knew nothing of the approach and rubbishing the idea that he would ever turn it down.

But it seems like Broner has no knowledge about it yet.

“Golden Boy, I never knew about the offer [for] the fight with Ryan Garcia. I’m just now finding out about that as we speak, but I’m here to let you know that I don’t need a tune up for s**t. After Ryan takes care of business in December we can make it happen ASAP. I’m the same person who fought Manny Pacquiao, why the f**k will I be afraid of saving private Ryan – SEND THE CONTRACT.”

Golden Boy really likes Ryan and I think even if he is defeated many times they will keep on sending him to the boxing ring against anyone.

Ryan Garcia did make a name in the boxing industry and he is young. Veteran boxers would love to have a shot against him to prove that they still have it too. I mean, fighting a young boxer with an advantage in speed and agility will be a good competition for them and somehow this may also put them in the spotlight to get another good fight before their retirement. Money.
Broner doesn't want a tune-up. Let it be official but I don't if that will happen if Ryan Garcia wins this fight on December 2.

Yeah, but maybe the camp of Ryan Garcia is just waiting for the fight to happen and they should win against Duarte. And it's Broner's trainer who have responded,

“If Ryan’s successful with whoever this guy is on December 2nd, AB is preparing right now to give Ryan the ass whooping he’s looking for next. My young prodigy De Von Williams is perfect sparring for AB to prepare for Ryan. As a matter of fact I think he beats Ryan too. Let’s stop the capping Golden Boy and send a proposal and it’s on.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/broners-trainer-ab-training-give-ryan-garcia-ass-whooping-hes-looking--179139

Most likely this is just Ryan hyping his name again and they are thinking that Broner could be a good fighter to have in his resume. Just imagine this two trash talking leading up to the fight. Ryan is not backing down with all this trash talking, so it's a interesting fight if this is going to be made by Oscar and GBP. Win win as well for Broner, he is not at his prime anymore but still will get a good exposure and paycheck fighting a young Ryan Garcia at 140 lbs.

[Yaunfitda]

Oscar dela Hoya says that they are looking at AB, Teo and Haney as his next opponent.

Do you mean Adrien Broner, the 'About Billions' guy? I think his ranking isn't on par with Ryan, or we could say that he's past his prime.

Maybe a matchup with Teo and Haney would be good for Garcia. However, if we're looking for an entertaining fight, Teo could deliver in that regard.

So depends on this fight and then Ryan winning against Duarte. And the good thing is that their fight is just a weeks apart and with that, we will know the results and maybe next year we might see it.

One step at a time, he needs to achieve a successful comeback first. Hopefully, he'll train hard and not underestimate Duarte so that he can secure a win.

Additionally, the victory needs to be impressive, especially since they are aiming for matchups against big names in boxing, all of whom are champions, except for AB.

That will be an explosive fight, Haney vs Garcia, or Lopez vs Garcia, or even Haney vs Lopez. We have anticipated that this fight is going to happen at 135 lbs, but all of them outgrow that division so they move to 140 lbs. And now that Lopez has one of the belts, and then Haney chasing another one, Garcia fighting a dangerous fighter in Duarte and needs to win in order to have his name in the mix again.

But then again, with his massive following, Ryan Garcia's name is one of the most hype regardless of what weight classes he will be in. That's why I think this fight is going to be made next year and it's going to be doable because of the huge money in the line.

[inthelongrun]

I think Ryan has still a fight left at least after his fight to Oscar Duarte.

Oscar dela Hoya says that they are looking at AB, Teo and Haney as his next opponent. So let's see how it will turn out, if he wins and then Haney wins against Prograis, it's going to be a money fight between him and Haney.

Just a matter of negotiations and who will be the A-side. However, with him and Oscar's experience negotiating with Davis to make a super fight, I think it will be done as well.

So depends on this fight and then Ryan winning against Duarte. And the good thing is that their fight is just a weeks apart and with that, we will know the results and maybe next year we might see it.

Hopefully, Oscar will put Garcia in the lions' den next if he beats Duarte unless they'll get Broner who's an easy fight but still a marketable fighter. But I am still doubtful of Garcia's willingness to fight for the WBC belt if Haney wins in a flawless fashion over Prograis. But if Prograis wins, it'll be an explosive fight between him and Garcia.

But about Garcia against Duarte, I expect this fight closer than most people see. I get it that Duarte is only a 135-fighter and is exploited by Garcia to move up in weight. But I think Duarte is very much capable of beating Garcia especially if he comes up stronger and makes the fight a brawl. Otherwise, Garcia will stay on the outside, and use his jabs and straights. We are also going to see if Garcia has more weapons in his sleeve now after joining Derrick James. And speaking of Derrick James; Errol Spence, and Anthony Joshua left him so the main focus will be Garcia.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I think Ryan has still a fight left at least after his fight to Oscar Duarte.

Oscar dela Hoya says that they are looking at AB, Teo and Haney as his next opponent. So let's see how it will turn out, if he wins and then Haney wins against Prograis, it's going to be a money fight between him and Haney.

Just a matter of negotiations and who will be the A-side. However, with him and Oscar's experience negotiating with Davis to make a super fight, I think it will be done as well.

So depends on this fight and then Ryan winning against Duarte. And the good thing is that their fight is just a weeks apart and with that, we will know the results and maybe next year we might see it.

Hopefully, Oscar will put Garcia in the lions' den next if he beats Duarte unless they'll get Broner who's an easy fight but still a marketable fighter. But I am still doubtful of Garcia's willingness to fight for the WBC belt if Haney wins in a flawless fashion over Prograis. But if Prograis wins, it'll be an explosive fight between him and Garcia.

But by the sounds of it, they are looking to Adrien Broner next? doesn't look good though if this is the route the Golden Boy wanted for Garcia. However, it boils down on the money here, it seems the Haney feels that he is the A side on every fight so there could be a big contention on the split. But if Garcia is more willing to do that just like the negotiation against Tank Davis, giving up a lot, then this fight could be made.

But about Garcia against Duarte, I expect this fight closer than most people see. I get it that Duarte is only a 135-fighter and is exploited by Garcia to move up in weight. But I think Duarte is very much capable of beating Garcia especially if he comes up stronger and makes the fight a brawl. Otherwise, Garcia will stay on the outside, and use his jabs and straights. We are also going to see if Garcia has more weapons in his sleeve now after joining Derrick James. And speaking of Derrick James; Errol Spence, and Anthony Joshua left him so the main focus will be Garcia.

Duarte looks solid in paper so yeah, this could be really a close fight. And again, we will see if Garcia learn a new trick under James now as his coach. And hopefully he can have another world champion in his stable. I'm not aware that Errol Spence has left his though, I thought this two are tight as brothers. But perhaps James could have been criticized with new plans or strategy and didn't give Spence any advise on the fly during his fight with Crawford.

[Kemarit]

Let's go back to the topic and not talk about Garcia vs Duarte as they have their own thread.

This fight is still in December, and there's one interview on Prograis and I quote,

“I feel like this fight is me stepping into my superstardom. That's what it is. It's me getting what I deserve.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/regis-prograis-on-haney-showdown-this-fight-me-stepping-into-my-superstardom--179366

It could be true that he might be recognized as the man in 140 lbs right now if he beat Devin Haney. As we have said, he is a live dog because he has the power to knock out anyone at this division and Haney has a weak chin.

But there is still another man in Teofimo Lopez before Prograis can lay to the crown at 140 lbs.

[inthelongrun]

But about Garcia against Duarte, I expect this fight closer than most people see. I get it that Duarte is only a 135-fighter and is exploited by Garcia to move up in weight. But I think Duarte is very much capable of beating Garcia especially if he comes up stronger and makes the fight a brawl. Otherwise, Garcia will stay on the outside, and use his jabs and straights. We are also going to see if Garcia has more weapons in his sleeve now after joining Derrick James. And speaking of Derrick James; Errol Spence, and Anthony Joshua left him so the main focus will be Garcia.

Duarte looks solid in paper so yeah, this could be really a close fight. And again, we will see if Garcia learn a new trick under James now as his coach. And hopefully he can have another world champion in his stable. I'm not aware that Errol Spence has left his though, I thought this two are tight as brothers. But perhaps James could have been criticized with new plans or strategy and didn't give Spence any advise on the fly during his fight with Crawford.

At the moment the odds for Duarte is at x3.50 while only 1.24 for Garcia. I'm sure this would've been closer on paper but most gamblers are into Garcia especially since he has a huge following. We'll find out if James' new fighter is ready for a title shot after this fight.

Let's go back to the topic and not talk about Garcia vs Duarte as they have their own thread.

This fight is still in December, and there's one interview on Prograis and I quote,

“I feel like this fight is me stepping into my superstardom. That's what it is. It's me getting what I deserve.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/regis-prograis-on-haney-showdown-this-fight-me-stepping-into-my-superstardom--179366

It could be true that he might be recognized as the man in 140 lbs right now if he beat Devin Haney. As we have said, he is a live dog because he has the power to knock out anyone at this division and Haney has a weak chin.

But there is still another man in Teofimo Lopez before Prograis can lay to the crown at 140 lbs.

It's good that Prograis is feeling hungry to become the man in this division. He needs it because Haney is also training hard. Haney knew that he was beatable in his last fight against Loma which is why he will try to correct the mistakes. Haney also trained with Freddie Roach. Prograis is not as quick as Loma though but he is sure capable of knocking out Haney with a clean shot.

It's right though, if Praograis can defend his belt against Haney, he still needs to beat the lineal champ which is Teofimo Lopez.

[Kemarit]

^^ Yes, all roads lead to Teo Lopez, as he is the man in the 140 lbs, he beat the unified champion and so he is the lineal champion. And it's good that he is just quite though and in the background. Although he was in the fight of Shakur and Delos Santos a week.

And so I guess he will be watching this fight too at close and he could be in the audience again. And whoever wins here, they really have to go to Teo Lopez to call themselves the best at 140 lbs.

[inthelongrun]

^^ Yes, all roads to Teo Lopez, as he is the man in the 140 lbs, he beat the unified champion and so he is the lineal champion. And it's good that he is just quite though and in the background. Although he was in the fight of Shakur and Delos Santos a week.

And so I guess he will be watching this fight too at close and he could be in the audience again. And whoever wins here, they really have to go to Teo Lopez to call themselves the best at 140 lbs.

I think I also noticed Teofimo during Shakur's fight last week. He may have fallen to sleep too. Imagine if Prograis-Haney is another boring one especially if Haney jabs then runs away and hugs to avoid exchanges.

Would be cool if Teofimo would be in attendance again in this fight and would climb up the ring to dare the winner to face the man of the division. Pretty sure Teofimo Lopez likes to fight any of the champions and the big names in this division. Top Rank's boss Bob Arum is also easier to negotiate if his fighter is the favorite. I actually prefer a Teofimo vs Prograis unification duel. Both are hard hitters, power may favor slightly the WBC champion but the WBO champ also has better skills.

[Baofeng]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r9iBsLBjU8

Heated 1:1 face-off. Lots of interesting topic touches in the face-off like Prograis accusing Haney of cleaning up his record to appear that he hasn't lost. But according to Regis, he got one lost erased form his records in his Mexico fight.

Haney knows that Prograis best weapon in the left hand, but Regis says that he is going to hit Haney with that left.

Bill Haney in the background is just laughing, having a good time with what Regis is saying. 

[Kemarit]

^^ Yes, all roads to Teo Lopez, as he is the man in the 140 lbs, he beat the unified champion and so he is the lineal champion. And it's good that he is just quite though and in the background. Although he was in the fight of Shakur and Delos Santos a week.

And so I guess he will be watching this fight too at close and he could be in the audience again. And whoever wins here, they really have to go to Teo Lopez to call themselves the best at 140 lbs.

I think I also noticed Teofimo during Shakur's fight last week. He may have fallen to sleep too. Imagine if Prograis-Haney is another boring one especially if Haney jabs then runs away and hugs to avoid exchanges.

It was a snoozer fight whichever way we see that fight, Shakur doesn't want to engage with De Los Santos.

Would be cool if Teofimo would be in attendance again in this fight and would climb up the ring to dare the winner to face the man of the division. Pretty sure Teofimo Lopez likes to fight any of the champions and the big names in this division. Top Rank's boss Bob Arum is also easier to negotiate if his fighter is the favorite. I actually prefer a Teofimo vs Prograis unification duel. Both are hard hitters, power may favor slightly the WBC champion but the WBO champ also has better skills.

I'm expecting that he will be in attendance again to see a closer look at this two. Potential opponents for him in the future, whoever gets the belt. If Prograis pull a upset, then it's going to be a great fight as both loves to engage and go toe to toe.

But if it will be Haney, Lopez will have to devise a different approach as Haney is more of a defensive fighter. But Lopez could have the tools to give Haney his first lost if ever they will face.

I just imagine though if Lopez after his contract with TR goes to PBC, same with Ryan Garcia ending his contract with GBP and then goes to PBC as well. All in house money for PBC as they could have the majority of the champions that time.

[Fundamentals Of]

I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.

[cabron]

I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.

Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up. 

Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision.

[stadus]

I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.

Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up. 

Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision.

We all know that Haney falls into the category of kinda boring boxers—there aren't many, but they're all unbeaten. Personally, I believe that boxing is as much about putting on a show as it is about competing. I mean, a boxer would get more love if they could both win the match and keep the crowd entertained simultaneously. But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.

[Maslate]

But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.

LOL, yeah, it's a bit sad but true. He's got that Mayweather style in him. It would be a amazing to witness if someone could really give him a challenging fight. Fingers crossed that Prograis might be the one to shake things up. I'm betting Prograis and his team are cooking up some strategies to counter Haney's style and come out on top.

With the fight just a few weeks away, time's flying! I hope they've cranked up the marketing strat to make this showdown a success, both at the venue and on PPV so they'll enjoy that sweet revenue, right?

[cabron]

But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.

LOL, yeah, it's a bit sad but true. He's got that Mayweather style in him. It would be a amazing to witness if someone could really give him a challenging fight. Fingers crossed that Prograis might be the one to shake things up. I'm betting Prograis and his team are cooking up some strategies to counter Haney's style and come out on top.

With the fight just a few weeks away, time's flying! I hope they've cranked up the marketing strat to make this showdown a success, both at the venue and on PPV so they'll enjoy that sweet revenue, right?

His fight with Linares was actually one of his entertaining fights where he was forced to fight toe to toe. Almost beaten by that veteran but most of it is initiated by Linares. It's when you can find out that he really can open up to risk his chin in order for him to have a chance to counter. But this is when he finds out Linares isn't as fast as he was in his prime days but to sum it up there is a good exchange in that fight. So far nothing else even if you watch his old fights.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up. 

Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision.

After watching Shakur Stevenson's performance earlier this month I am glad those two are not facing each other. We were spared from what surely would have been a boring chess match. Both, Shakur and Haney, act like tough guys on social media but they turn into pussy cats when they are inside the ring. Over the weekend we saw that technical fighters like Demetrius Andrade can be beaten with aggression. It can be frustrating for an opponent when they are missing punches but it is necessary to remain calm and continue applying pressure.

[Kemarit]

Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up. 

Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision.

After watching Shakur Stevenson's performance earlier this month I am glad those two are not facing each other. We were spared from what surely would have been a boring chess match. Both, Shakur and Haney, act like tough guys on social media but they turn into pussy cats when they are inside the ring. Over the weekend we saw that technical fighters like Demetrius Andrade can be beaten with aggression. It can be frustrating for an opponent when they are missing punches but it is necessary to remain calm and continue applying pressure.

And there will be boos from the fans after that snoozer fight, both defensive fighter, each one of them doesn't want to engage. Just surprised though has Shakur did against Edwin De Los Santos in their fight. Not sure what he is, maybe he felt the power and so he just decided to go on a bicycle.

Regis though doesn't believed that Haney is what we call defensive fighter. So that's good though, both of them are trying to negate each other's strength so hopefully it will not be a chess match as Regis look for that knockout.

[btc_angela]

I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.

Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up. 

Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision.

We all know that Haney falls into the category of kinda boring boxers—there aren't many, but they're all unbeaten. Personally, I believe that boxing is as much about putting on a show as it is about competing. I mean, a boxer would get more love if they could both win the match and keep the crowd entertained simultaneously. But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.

Right now though, one good example that wanted to engage and still got that W is Davis. But he is not a real champion and he should step up his level of competition but it's seems his camp doesn't want to do that.

But there are also boxers that is pure on defense like Haney and majority of boxing fans, doesn't want that kind of show. We wanted old school fighters, like Mike Tyson or even the legendary Manny Pacquiao. Not afraid to lose and doesn't have that defense mentality. His best defense is his offense.

[inthelongrun]

But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.

LOL, yeah, it's a bit sad but true. He's got that Mayweather style in him. It would be a amazing to witness if someone could really give him a challenging fight. Fingers crossed that Prograis might be the one to shake things up. I'm betting Prograis and his team are cooking up some strategies to counter Haney's style and come out on top.

With the fight just a few weeks away, time's flying! I hope they've cranked up the marketing strat to make this showdown a success, both at the venue and on PPV so they'll enjoy that sweet revenue, right?

His fight with Linares was actually one of his entertaining fights where he was forced to fight toe to toe. Almost beaten by that veteran but most of it is initiated by Linares. It's when you can find out that he really can open up to risk his chin in order for him to have a chance to counter. But this is when he finds out Linares isn't as fast as he was in his prime days but to sum it up there is a good exchange in that fight. So far nothing else even if you watch his old fights.

I remember Haney hugged Linares more than you can imagine in a boxing fight. Haney was somehow forced to engage because Linares is a quick type of fighter. Linares would've been quicker but he was already past his prime during their fight.

This time though, Haney is facing a slower fighter in Prograis. What Prograis needs is proper timing. Prograis should also be the aggressor in this fight because Haney can run all night and throw jabs and quick combinations enough to win a decision. Prograis also needs to be the stronger fighter so he can never allow Haney to easily hug him. Haney is also a dirty fighter who throws punches while hugging so Prograis should be the first to initiate a dirty fight every time he gets hugged.

[btc_angela]

But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.

LOL, yeah, it's a bit sad but true. He's got that Mayweather style in him. It would be a amazing to witness if someone could really give him a challenging fight. Fingers crossed that Prograis might be the one to shake things up. I'm betting Prograis and his team are cooking up some strategies to counter Haney's style and come out on top.

With the fight just a few weeks away, time's flying! I hope they've cranked up the marketing strat to make this showdown a success, both at the venue and on PPV so they'll enjoy that sweet revenue, right?

His fight with Linares was actually one of his entertaining fights where he was forced to fight toe to toe. Almost beaten by that veteran but most of it is initiated by Linares. It's when you can find out that he really can open up to risk his chin in order for him to have a chance to counter. But this is when he finds out Linares isn't as fast as he was in his prime days but to sum it up there is a good exchange in that fight. So far nothing else even if you watch his old fights.

I remember Haney hugged Linares more than you can imagine in a boxing fight. Haney was somehow forced to engage because Linares is a quick type of fighter. Linares would've been quicker but he was already past his prime during their fight.

Yes, I remember that fight, Linares was already past his prime that time, but we was able to hit Haney and put him in queer street,  . Haney try to engage but Linares is quicker, but doesn't have that power though to really put Haney into sleep.

So in order for Prograis to win and I think he won't win in the judges scorecard, he should really engage Haney and not make him comfortable in the fight. Haney was comfortable against Kambosos but against Loma, which I think for me Haney lost that fight, mid to late rounds it was Loma who is taking the fight. Prograis has a proverbial punchers chance against Haney, if he hits him square in the chin, Haney will feel that power.

[yazher]

We all know that Haney falls into the category of kinda boring boxers—there aren't many, but they're all unbeaten. Personally, I believe that boxing is as much about putting on a show as it is about competing. I mean, a boxer would get more love if they could both win the match and keep the crowd entertained simultaneously. But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.

Until he fights someone who has some high chance to beat him and beat that guy easily, the fans will gonna recognize his skill and he won't be like Andriene Broner who lost easily when he finally fought someone who is not afraid to take his punches and make him realized he is nothing but a rising star, not a star yet. If he can only prove his greatness and fight anybody like the old-time boxers does, he will be instantly famous even though his fighting style is uninteresting but we all know that they are more careful nowadays compared to old boxers who keep grinding on their rivals.

[stadus]

We all know that Haney falls into the category of kinda boring boxers—there aren't many, but they're all unbeaten. Personally, I believe that boxing is as much about putting on a show as it is about competing. I mean, a boxer would get more love if they could both win the match and keep the crowd entertained simultaneously. But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.

Until he fights someone who has some high chance to beat him and beat that guy easily, the fans will gonna recognize his skill and he won't be like Andriene Broner who lost easily when he finally fought someone who is not afraid to take his punches and make him realized he is nothing but a rising star, not a star yet. If he can only prove his greatness and fight anybody like the old-time boxers does, he will be instantly famous even though his fighting style is uninteresting but we all know that they are more careful nowadays compared to old boxers who keep grinding on their rivals.

They know their limitations as a boxer and they are just humans too, so probably they are just playing their game to hit but not to get hit. Unfortunately with this too careful strategy , it consistently result to a boring fight and that although he is undefeated but fans does not talk about him a lot because it's pretty obvious that fans usually talk about a boxer that entertaining to watch and that he's winning as well.

Take Canelo for example, this champ isn't undefeated anymore, but I'm sure he is more popular than Haney, or other boring boxers who are champ&undefeated.

[Fundamentals Of]

I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.

Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up. 

Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision.

I share your opinion that Haney isn't an exciting fighter, if that's even a word that describes him in the ring. I love boxers who are real fighters. I love watching fights inside the ring. I don't discredit Haney though. That's his style and strategy. He's part of that group of boxers which include Mayweather whose only goal is to win. If it takes constant running, clinching, dodging to do that, they don't mind. There are boxers though who punish their opponents, go for the knock out if possible, and even apologize if the fight is boring. These are the kinds of boxers that I admire. Haney isn't that kind.

[Dave1]

I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.

Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up. 

Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision.

I share your opinion that Haney isn't an exciting fighter, if that's even a word that describes him in the ring. I love boxers who are real fighters. I love watching fights inside the ring. I don't discredit Haney though. That's his style and strategy. He's part of that group of boxers which include Mayweather whose only goal is to win. If it takes constant running, clinching, dodging to do that, they don't mind. There are boxers though who punish their opponents, go for the knock out if possible, and even apologize if the fight is boring. These are the kinds of boxers that I admire. Haney isn't that kind.

Yes, his style doesn't suit most of the boxing fans here, but it is effective for him so we should respect that. And he is the undisputed champion at 140 lbs and lineal I believed, so again, his very style did bring him to become one of the best for this division and I don't think he will change it, that's how his father build him.

And with this fight, Regis has the advantage in power and Haney is going to be tested how good his defense it against this kind of fighters. Regis in his part doesn't recognized this so called defensive specialist so we will see what style is going to win here.

[inthelongrun]

Meanwhile, Devin Haney planned on vacating all his 135 belts after his fight with Prograis. The young kid shared his plan of making his own legacy while he was still young. He wants to become a 3-division champion.

So if he beats Prograis, he may stay short unless there are big money fights to make. Otherwise, a move to 147 is expected. I'm curious though, what if he loses to Prograis? He's having a hard time making 135 but he can make bigger money with his 3 belts rather than build his resume at 140 for another title fight opportunity. And maybe Tank Davis gains confidence and is willing to fight Haney if he loses to Prograis.

[btc_angela]

Meanwhile, Devin Haney planned on vacating all his 135 belts after his fight with Prograis. The young kid shared his plan of making his own legacy while he was still young. He wants to become a 3-division champion.

So it all depends on that results of his fight with Prograis. Although if I'm not mistaken, I've seen reports that he is willing to go back to 135 lbs, win or lose in this division to depend his belt. So there's a lot of things from his kid, unified at 135 lbs, cemented already his legacy on that division. Maybe his next plan is for the 140 lbs.

But who knows, if there is money to be made at 135 lbs against Tank Davis or even Shakur Stevenson, he might go down.

But yes, let's see December 9th, if he gets pass Regis Prograis, the door will still be open for him at either division.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up. 

Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision.

After watching Shakur Stevenson's performance earlier this month I am glad those two are not facing each other. We were spared from what surely would have been a boring chess match. Both, Shakur and Haney, act like tough guys on social media but they turn into pussy cats when they are inside the ring. Over the weekend we saw that technical fighters like Demetrius Andrade can be beaten with aggression. It can be frustrating for an opponent when they are missing punches but it is necessary to remain calm and continue applying pressure.

And there will be boos from the fans after that snoozer fight, both defensive fighter, each one of them doesn't want to engage. Just surprised though has Shakur did against Edwin De Los Santos in their fight. Not sure what he is, maybe he felt the power and so he just decided to go on a bicycle.

Regis though doesn't believed that Haney is what we call defensive fighter. So that's good though, both of them are trying to negate each other's strength so hopefully it will not be a chess match as Regis look for that knockout.

This is very interesting, obviously I know that Hanney's style is very defensive, the truth is I don't know how he does it, because for my style I think and it may be more tiring, but it helps save energy, but I know that mentally a defensive style It can't make our goal weaken more, because the more attacks and we receive those combinations, the harder it is, while the attacker drains his adrenaline, and it could be that if he connects a good blow it can make anyone hesitate, I don't know what it is. Better if an attack, that is attack style, or a defensive style of boxing, for me in boxing there must be balance, there must be good defense and good attack, which is for me what is meant to be achieved, but also boxers who seek to make knockouts, it is notable that they seek to make the knockout quickly and the amount of energy they expend is impressive, and I don't know, but when there is a greater effort, it is difficult to maintain the same oxygen within the body.

That's why the person or boxer who is defensive absorbs all those attacks, but the bad thing is that when he is receiving them, time passes very slowly for him and very fast and violent for the boxer who attacks where most of the critical effort and decnacio Only the attacking boxer carries it and everything that the other boxer absorbs because it is not just anything, you have to be very tough and with a lot of willpower to look for the best counterattack blow, then basically if he is a defensive boxer but who runs in the ring, and something that I don't like, because it becomes the typical fight that Mayweather won against the Filipino legend, and also, I don't like that type of fight because if they go to the purely technical, it is something that many of us find boring and it is not, I would not want it to reach that level where the fight Stabilizes and becomes very flat , of course in my Personal opinion, since this sport is beautiful.

[Jating]

Meanwhile, Devin Haney planned on vacating all his 135 belts after his fight with Prograis. The young kid shared his plan of making his own legacy while he was still young. He wants to become a 3-division champion.

So if he beats Prograis, he may stay short unless there are big money fights to make. Otherwise, a move to 147 is expected. I'm curious though, what if he loses to Prograis? He's having a hard time making 135 but he can make bigger money with his 3 belts rather than build his resume at 140 for another title fight opportunity. And maybe Tank Davis gains confidence and is willing to fight Haney if he loses to Prograis.

I was really surprised to hear from him that he is vacating all the remaining belts he had at 135 lbs, so now he is a true 140 lbs and there is no going back. So yeah, if he wins here, for sure the plan will be is to become undisputed here.

But it will be a tough road for Haney, I mean he has to go to Teo Lopez first, as we all know the lineal champion. And then we have a new superstar, or at least he has cemented his claim at the belt that he has defended, Matias. A tough IBF 140 lbs champion and it will be great to see Haney or even Teo Lopez fight this guy.

[Kemarit]

I'm not surprised by Haney's move to vacate the belt at 135 lbs. His body has matured already, it's not that he doesn't want to defend it, but I'm seeing that it's more of his body not going to make it or it will be more difficult more his body to squeeze in that weight class.

So even if he doesn't want to, then he has no choice but to go to 140 lbs. And just think about it, if he beats Prograis here, then he will have a belt to defend in the future. So it will not be that easy for him to go back to 135 lbs, and as we have seen, he become undisputed already so nothing to proved there. He should just wait for Shakur or Tank Davis to move up and make that money fight.

[inthelongrun]

I'm not surprised by Haney's move to vacate the belt at 135 lbs. His body has matured already, it's not that he doesn't want to defend it, but I'm seeing that it's more of his body not going to make it or it will be more difficult more his body to squeeze in that weight class.

So even if he doesn't want to, then he has no choice but to go to 140 lbs. And just think about it, if he beats Prograis here, then he will have a belt to defend in the future. So it will not be that easy for him to go back to 135 lbs, and as we have seen, he become undisputed already so nothing to proved there. He should just wait for Shakur or Tank Davis to move up and make that money fight.

Haney did mention that Tank Davis isn't interested in a shot at the undisputed championship. So it's more like Haney was only willing to sacrifice making the weight for a fight against Tank. Haney is mad at Shakur and Loma, and he knows they are too risky for him so he better vacate all his belts blocking them the opportunity to become undisputed in just a single fight. Tank is like a low-risk high-reward fight for Haney whereas with the potential money against risky Loma and Shakur, he can get it at 140 while at the same time he gets the chance to become a 2-division world champion.

We are already at fight week. I like the bad blood between the two. I can feel Prograis is mad at Haney and wants to punish him badly. So he is determined here while Haney is hyping himself and talking about anything including lies to get public attention. Haney is doing the villain role to sell fights. 

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I'm not surprised by Haney's move to vacate the belt at 135 lbs. His body has matured already, it's not that he doesn't want to defend it, but I'm seeing that it's more of his body not going to make it or it will be more difficult more his body to squeeze in that weight class.

So even if he doesn't want to, then he has no choice but to go to 140 lbs. And just think about it, if he beats Prograis here, then he will have a belt to defend in the future. So it will not be that easy for him to go back to 135 lbs, and as we have seen, he become undisputed already so nothing to proved there. He should just wait for Shakur or Tank Davis to move up and make that money fight.

Haney did mention that Tank Davis isn't interested in a shot at the undisputed championship. So it's more like Haney was only willing to sacrifice making the weight for a fight against Tank. Haney is mad at Shakur and Loma, and he knows they are too risky for him so he better vacate all his belts blocking them the opportunity to become undisputed in just a single fight. Tank is like a low-risk high-reward fight for Haney whereas with the potential money against risky Loma and Shakur, he can get it at 140 while at the same time he gets the chance to become a 2-division world champion.

We are already at fight week. I like the bad blood between the two. I can feel Prograis is mad at Haney and wants to punish him badly. So he is determined here while Haney is hyping himself and talking about anything including lies to get public attention. Haney is doing the villain role to sell fights. 

Looks everything is personal, I see video of the photo shop and there was tension between the older Haney and someone from the camp of Prograis, not sure if that is his training or what, but definitely something is brewing and the animosity is real up to this point.

I don't think that Haney will risk going down to 135 lbs at this point. Not even a Tank fight at that weight class. And I do agree that if ever he wanted Tank or a piece of Shakur, it will be at 140 lbs. Devin Haney is sensing already that he will be a champion and beat Prograis in a full 12 rounds that's why they are very confident.

[Natalim]

Devin Haney is sensing already that he will be a champion and beat Prograis in a full 12 rounds that's why they are very confident.

He's always very confident in this fight, and the fact that bookies are favoring him to win makes his confidence boost even more. It's a championship fight, and he'll be the new champion if he wins here, so that's alright for him if he gets confident, as he really needs that in a championship fight.

I just wish that Prograis really has the game plan to not allow Haney to dictate the fight. Because if he does, Haney would effortlessly win in a 12-round battle, and judges would hand their decision favoring Haney for a unanimous decision win.

[aioc]

Devin Haney is sensing already that he will be a champion and beat Prograis in a full 12 rounds that's why they are very confident.

He's always very confident in this fight, and the fact that bookies are favoring him to win makes his confidence boost even more. It's a championship fight, and he'll be the new champion if he wins here, so that's alright for him if he gets confident, as he really needs that in a championship fight.

I just wish that Prograis really has the game plan to not allow Haney to dictate the fight. Because if he does, Haney would effortlessly win in a 12-round battle, and judges would hand their decision favoring Haney for a unanimous decision win.

Kambosos is a better fighter than Prograis and Haney dominated Kambosos twice, Kambosos has a good game plan but Haney is just too good for Kambosos, Haney is a thinking tactician he may not be a hard puncher but he knows how to fight intelligently, I remember Haney asking Hopkins to give him a Garcia fight but The Golden Boy is grooming Garcia and don't want to give Garcia a hard fight, so The Golden Boy promotion has huge respect for Haney's skill the situation is very different now Garcia is struggling to get on top again while Haney is the undisputed champion, because Haney is not afraid to fight anyone.
If you are a good boxer you have to prove by fighting whoever is the best.

[Distinctin]

Kambosos is a better fighter than Prograis and Haney dominated Kambosos twice,...

I don't know, mate, but I'd like to ask how did you compare these two fighters and see that Kambosos is the better fighter than Prograis? As far as I know, Prograis and Kambosos haven't fought yet, while Kambosos only has two losses, both coming from Haney.

Prograis has only one loss, and that is against Josh Taylor. But that doesn't mean he'll easily lose to Haney just because he isn't undefeated anymore.

[inthelongrun]

Kambosos is a better fighter than Prograis and Haney dominated Kambosos twice,...

I don't know, mate, but I'd like to ask how did you compare these two fighters and see that Kambosos is the better fighter than Prograis? As far as I know, Prograis and Kambosos haven't fought yet, while Kambosos only has two losses, both coming from Haney.

Prograis has only one loss, and that is against Josh Taylor. But that doesn't mean he'll easily lose to Haney just because he isn't undefeated anymore.

For me, it's not even close. Prograis is more proven. He is a 2-time world champion, has successful title defenses and even successfully unified his WBC belt against the WBA champion before losing a very close and highly debatable majority decision against then-IBF champion Josh Taylor in the UK.

Meanwhile, Kambosos was a one-hit wonder. He caught Teofimo's worst night of his life. Before Kambosos' title shot against Teofimo, he only won split decisions over Bey and Selby. Kambosos never successfully defended the belts even once as he was schooled by Haney twice. Old Linares and mediocre Jojo Diaz even performed better than Kambosos against Haney.

Early next year, we're expecting old Loma to travel to Kambosos' backyard in Australia for the vacant IBF belt. That's the last chance for Kambosos to show that he belongs to the top names of the division, otherwise, his victory over Teofimo was just a fluke.

[Yaunfitda]

Kambosos is a better fighter than Prograis and Haney dominated Kambosos twice,...

I don't know, mate, but I'd like to ask how did you compare these two fighters and see that Kambosos is the better fighter than Prograis? As far as I know, Prograis and Kambosos haven't fought yet, while Kambosos only has two losses, both coming from Haney.

Prograis has only one loss, and that is against Josh Taylor. But that doesn't mean he'll easily lose to Haney just because he isn't undefeated anymore.

For me, it's not even close. Prograis is more proven. He is a 2-time world champion, has successful title defenses and even successfully unified his WBC belt against the WBA champion before losing a very close and highly debatable majority decision against then-IBF champion Josh Taylor in the UK.

Meanwhile, Kambosos was a one-hit wonder. He caught Teofimo's worst night of his life. Before Kambosos' title shot against Teofimo, he only won split decisions over Bey and Selby. Kambosos never successfully defended the belts even once as he was schooled by Haney twice. Old Linares and mediocre Jojo Diaz even performed better than Kambosos against Haney.

Early next year, we're expecting old Loma to travel to Kambosos' backyard in Australia for the vacant IBF belt. That's the last chance for Kambosos to show that he belongs to the top names of the division, otherwise, his victory over Teofimo was just a fluke.

I'm just trying to look at Kambosos and yeah he has a recent win against Maxi Hughes. So he will be line for the vacant belt from Haney. And it will be Kambosos vs the old Loma. But I think Loma can still win in that fight and it will proved that Kambosos win against Teo is just one of those lucky day in boxing.

And I do agree that Prograis has been tested already at 140 lbs, he used to be a champion here and just lost to a controversial decision against Josh Taylor. So we will see if Prograis can retain his belt or not against Haney who is moving up in this division. I think Haney though is just ripe for the 140 lbs class he doesn't have to drain himself that much so both of them are well hydrated and we will see who will last the 12 rounds.

[btc_angela]

Kambosos is a better fighter than Prograis and Haney dominated Kambosos twice,...

I don't know, mate, but I'd like to ask how did you compare these two fighters and see that Kambosos is the better fighter than Prograis? As far as I know, Prograis and Kambosos haven't fought yet, while Kambosos only has two losses, both coming from Haney.

Prograis has only one loss, and that is against Josh Taylor. But that doesn't mean he'll easily lose to Haney just because he isn't undefeated anymore.

Yeah, I don't think that Kambosos is a better fighter, sure he beat Teo Lopez a highly hype fight that time, but Lopez try to comeback in that fight as well, he just fell short because of the early knockdown that he suffers.

So they are not even comparable in my opinion. And I also see Prograis as a better boxer, although I would understand if others haven't heard of his name before unlike Kambosos, a former sparring partner of Manny Pacquaio and that's where his name pop up. And as others have stated before, Prograis is a ex-champion at 140 lbs and his lost was very close or what we call controversial against Josh Taylor.

[Baofeng]

Anyone watching the "Devin Haney vs. Regis Prograis Press Conference Livestream"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ72CwKZxKc

And you can see that Bill Haney and Regis Prograis are getting at each other.

Good to see how this guys are promoting and hyping this fight, both camps are loud mouth so yeah we are looking forward for this fight. No excuses, either Regis will knockout Haney or Haney going into a 12 full round and might be boring fight.  .

[Yaunfitda]

And tomorrow night will be the final weigh-in, hopefully I can get to watch it live too (timezone difference). But yeah, Bill Haney is running his mouth and both camps are really disrespectful against each other and for sure fans are hype.

And if I'm not mistaken, tickets is sold out expect maybe those upfront and those expensive tickets.

Hopefully both can really bring their A-game here and they can back up their talks pre-fight.

[Sanitough]

And tomorrow night will be the final weigh-in, hopefully I can get to watch it live too (timezone difference). But yeah, Bill Haney is running his mouth and both camps are really disrespectful against each other and for sure fans are hype.

And if I'm not mistaken, tickets is sold out expect maybe those upfront and those expensive tickets.

Hopefully both can really bring their A-game here and they can back up their talks pre-fight.

For sure the ticket price is high for those who are in the front sets, they have a clear view to the actul fight so they have to pay for a bigger price. Anyway, we can also check the PPV price.

https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2023/12/06/6570bba322601df3438b4568.html

The PPV price for subscribers is: $59.99, and $74.99 for non-subscribers. The monthly subscription to DAZN is $19.99 with a 12-month contract or $24.99 month-to-month in the U.S., while the annual subscription costs $224.99.

The PPV is also expensive especially if you are a non-subscriber, no wonder illegal streams are very popular.

[bittraffic]

And tomorrow night will be the final weigh-in, hopefully I can get to watch it live too (timezone difference). But yeah, Bill Haney is running his mouth and both camps are really disrespectful against each other and for sure fans are hype.

And if I'm not mistaken, tickets is sold out expect maybe those upfront and those expensive tickets.

Hopefully both can really bring their A-game here and they can back up their talks pre-fight.

For sure the ticket price is high for those who are in the front sets, they have a clear view to the actul fight so they have to pay for a bigger price. Anyway, we can also check the PPV price.

https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2023/12/06/6570bba322601df3438b4568.html

The PPV price for subscribers is: $59.99, and $74.99 for non-subscribers. The monthly subscription to DAZN is $19.99 with a 12-month contract or $24.99 month-to-month in the U.S., while the annual subscription costs $224.99.

The PPV is also expensive especially if you are a non-subscriber, no wonder illegal streams are very popular.

You can just bet on casinos as they have a live stream of these fights. You don't need to subscribe to those PPV as long as you have access to the sports betting platform and then you can cast it on your big screen when it's live on your phone. This is what I do when the match starts.

I'm betting for Haney by UD for this fight. Can't say for sure this will happen but most probably since he is new to this division and has inflated himself to get the weight.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

^ I don't think that Haney has inflated himself or have a hard time going into 140 lbs. I mean if you look at the 2 for me Haney is the bigger guy. So it means that his body would have adapted as this weight class without any other issue.

But I do agree with you that this might go on the judges scorecard just like his last fight with Loma. So possible that he will win by UD. Until Prograis caught him solid or Regis had a few good rounds and others that can go either way.

As for watching this live, maybe we have to be resourceful again so that we can watch if for free, if you guys know what I mean.

[btc_angela]

And tomorrow night will be the final weigh-in, hopefully I can get to watch it live too (timezone difference). But yeah, Bill Haney is running his mouth and both camps are really disrespectful against each other and for sure fans are hype.

And if I'm not mistaken, tickets is sold out expect maybe those upfront and those expensive tickets.

Hopefully both can really bring their A-game here and they can back up their talks pre-fight.

For sure the ticket price is high for those who are in the front sets, they have a clear view to the actul fight so they have to pay for a bigger price. Anyway, we can also check the PPV price.

https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2023/12/06/6570bba322601df3438b4568.html

The PPV price for subscribers is: $59.99, and $74.99 for non-subscribers. The monthly subscription to DAZN is $19.99 with a 12-month contract or $24.99 month-to-month in the U.S., while the annual subscription costs $224.99.

The PPV is also expensive especially if you are a non-subscriber, no wonder illegal streams are very popular.

You can just bet on casinos as they have a live stream of these fights. You don't need to subscribe to those PPV as long as you have access to the sports betting platform and then you can cast it on your big screen when it's live on your phone. This is what I do when the match starts.

I'm betting for Haney by UD for this fight. Can't say for sure this will happen but most probably since he is new to this division and has inflated himself to get the weight.

Haney by UD currently is 1.39. Maybe for some this is not that attractive, but if you have good money to bet on this odd I think it will surely give you a good returns. And yeah, there's a lot of hype on this fight, Haney's first at 140 lbs and it will be against the champion in Prograis.

And if I'm not mistaken, this could be the first time that Haney will face a solid and powerful puncher. But Haney has the tools, as he is elusive and could be consider one of the best skillful defensive fighter we have right now. Also had a good boxing IQ. And probably that's one reason why odds maker put Prograis a 3:1 underdog in this fight.

[Baofeng]

And here's the official weigh in,

Haney - 140 lbs
Prograis - 139 lbs

So no problem for both making the weight for this fight. Here is the video of the weigh-in,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5i1BQ_uXww

Bill Haney and Evins Tobler at it going at each other again. We already know the odds for this fight, the champion is a huge underdog. And I know a couple who are beating on the underdog because of that huge pay day they will got if Prograis pulls a big upset.

[Slow death]

And tomorrow night will be the final weigh-in, hopefully I can get to watch it live too (timezone difference). But yeah, Bill Haney is running his mouth and both camps are really disrespectful against each other and for sure fans are hype.

And if I'm not mistaken, tickets is sold out expect maybe those upfront and those expensive tickets.

Hopefully both can really bring their A-game here and they can back up their talks pre-fight.

For sure the ticket price is high for those who are in the front sets, they have a clear view to the actul fight so they have to pay for a bigger price. Anyway, we can also check the PPV price.

https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2023/12/06/6570bba322601df3438b4568.html

The PPV price for subscribers is: $59.99, and $74.99 for non-subscribers. The monthly subscription to DAZN is $19.99 with a 12-month contract or $24.99 month-to-month in the U.S., while the annual subscription costs $224.99.

The PPV is also expensive especially if you are a non-subscriber, no wonder illegal streams are very popular.

In my case, as I don't pay to watch the fights, I always wait for the fights to finish so I can watch the replay on YouTube, the problem with watching a replay of a fight is that the person immediately sees in the title of the video that fighter x won the fight so when I'm watching the video I always have that impatience of wanting to see in which minute or round the winner was, and this situation is very irritating, sometimes I get very bored of waiting until the minute or round in which the winner was and I fast forward the video until the such a minute that there was a winner and then I rewind the video from the beginning so I can watch it. I keep looking at those guys who are watching where the fight is being held

and I say that those guys are the real lucky ones, watching on TV or the internet doesn't have the same emotion as sitting in a chair and watching the fighters live, without being on TV or the internet, without having some annoying TV commentator, but unfortunately this one It's a privilege that I don't have, I don't even know in what century I would be so lucky as to watch high-level boxing matches live where the fight is taking place. So I'll have to wait for this fight to finish and the replay of the fight will be available for me to watch, I see Devin Haney coming out victorious in this fight

[robelneo]

And here's the official weigh in,

Haney - 140 lbs
Prograis - 139 lbs

So no problem for both making the weight for this fight. Here is the video of the weigh-in,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5i1BQ_uXww

Bill Haney and Evins Tobler at it going at each other again. We already know the odds for this fight, the champion is a huge underdog. And I know a couple who are beating on the underdog because of that huge pay day they will got if Prograis pulls a big upset.

One of the longest face off I've seen  they don't like each other that's a good motivation for boxers when they are going to the ring, hopefully, they will convert it to a lot of action, one problem with Haney is the lack of engagement he prefers the Mayweather method to pile up points if Prograis does not have something to counter that hit and run by Haney it's going to be a long night for him.
For Prograis to win he needs to knock out to win, for Haney to win he will pile up points so lets see who's plan is goign to reign.

[FinneysTrueVision]

The PPV price for subscribers is: $59.99, and $74.99 for non-subscribers. The monthly subscription to DAZN is $19.99 with a 12-month contract or $24.99 month-to-month in the U.S., while the annual subscription costs $224.99.

The PPV is also expensive especially if you are a non-subscriber, no wonder illegal streams are very popular.

I don't expect it to get very many buys. This just doesn't need to be on pay-per-view. The undercard is terrible and the main event fighters aren't some huge stars. Buying the DAZN subscription for a small discount is not worth it either because there's hardly any big fights included with the subscription. For $20 a month, which I'm sure they'll continue to increase, you only get guys like Jake Paul and Ryan Garcia in tuneup fights against outmatched opponents.

[Japinat]

The PPV price for subscribers is: $59.99, and $74.99 for non-subscribers. The monthly subscription to DAZN is $19.99 with a 12-month contract or $24.99 month-to-month in the U.S., while the annual subscription costs $224.99.

The PPV is also expensive especially if you are a non-subscriber, no wonder illegal streams are very popular.

I don't expect it to get very many buys. This just doesn't need to be on pay-per-view. The undercard is terrible and the main event fighters aren't some huge stars. Buying the DAZN subscription for a small discount is not worth it either because there's hardly any big fights included with the subscription. For $20 a month, which I'm sure they'll continue to increase, you only get guys like Jake Paul and Ryan Garcia in tuneup fights against outmatched opponents.

That's expected because Haney isn't a PPV attraction, I mean who would watch a boring fighter, right?

So I think the price are too expensive for a non exciting fight, they might have exaggerate things in the weigh in to create some hype but we've seen Haney's fight, most of them aren't entertaining, and if Haney would dictate the pace, we know what to expect already.

I guess I'll just wait for some free streams, if I could not see some streamers doing it, then no choice but to wait for the replay.
Maybe I would not check on the news, or this thread so I could still feel the excitement.

[bots1]

I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.

Yes, Haney is really the favorite in this fight, especially since he hasn't been touched by defeat at all since making his debut on the professional stage. In fact, in 30 fights Haney managed to win 15 times by KO or TKO. In addition, Haney has a record of holding five lightweight championship belts.

[mirakal]

I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.

Yes, Haney is really the favorite in this fight, especially since he hasn't been touched by defeat at all since making his debut on the professional stage. In fact, in 30 fights Haney managed to win 15 times by KO or TKO. In addition, Haney has a record of holding five lightweight championship belts.

Yeah, it's all available in here https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/741718

While bookies are made Haney as the favorite, it doesn't guarantee he will win and will become a champion. All his fights probably are won easily by him but pause of a moment and see who own's this division.. It's Prograis, he is the defending champion, so being an underdog is probably a great opportunity to bet on. Actually, there's only two possible outcome we could see, either Haney winning via UD or Prograis will via KO.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.

Yes, Haney is really the favorite in this fight, especially since he hasn't been touched by defeat at all since making his debut on the professional stage. In fact, in 30 fights Haney managed to win 15 times by KO or TKO. In addition, Haney has a record of holding five lightweight championship belts.

Yeah, it's all available in here https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/741718

While bookies are made Haney as the favorite, it doesn't guarantee he will win and will become a champion. All his fights probably are won easily by him but pause of a moment and see who own's this division.. It's Prograis, he is the defending champion, so being an underdog is probably a great opportunity to bet on. Actually, there's only two possible outcome we could see, either Haney winning via UD or Prograis will via KO.

This is a new division for Haney, and he is fighting one of the division's champion which is Prograis. And that's why there are so much hype in this fight as Haney is coming up in weight and trying to let's say bully the new division by fighting one of the toughest champion.

And then odd makers putting the champion as the underdog at 3:1. And then Prograis highlighting that he is going to knockout Devin Haney with his power, but Haney will rely on his boxing IQ or his defensive skills. So I believed as what you say, either Haney by decision or Prograis via brutal KO.

[inthelongrun]

And here's the official weigh in,

Haney - 140 lbs
Prograis - 139 lbs

So no problem for both making the weight for this fight. Here is the video of the weigh-in,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5i1BQ_uXww

Bill Haney and Evins Tobler at it going at each other again. We already know the odds for this fight, the champion is a huge underdog. And I know a couple who are beating on the underdog because of that huge pay day they will got if Prograis pulls a big upset.

I like how Prograis is the last one to back down during the staredown. I can see it in his eyes, he wants to hurt Haney badly. Haney thinks he is scary but as Prograis said before, ain't no pillow puncher scares him. Haney seems a little bigger but I wonder who rehydrates a lot during fight night. Prograis is a regular 140 guy while Haney is still young and growing. The importance of being the heavier and stronger guy at fight night dictates Haney's constant hugs. If Prograis is the stronger guy, he can control the clinches and Haney is in for the fight of his life.

Liam Paro vs Montana Love in the main supporting bout should be a good one. And to those who were disappointed because this is a PPV event, it's because Eddie's favorite fighter is in the undercard.

[Viscore]

I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.

Yes, Haney is really the favorite in this fight, especially since he hasn't been touched by defeat at all since making his debut on the professional stage. In fact, in 30 fights Haney managed to win 15 times by KO or TKO. In addition, Haney has a record of holding five lightweight championship belts.

Yeah, it's all available in here https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/741718

While bookies are made Haney as the favorite, it doesn't guarantee he will win and will become a champion. All his fights probably are won easily by him but pause of a moment and see who own's this division.. It's Prograis, he is the defending champion, so being an underdog is probably a great opportunity to bet on. Actually, there's only two possible outcome we could see, either Haney winning via UD or Prograis will via KO.

This is a new division for Haney, and he is fighting one of the division's champion which is Prograis. And that's why there are so much hype in this fight as Haney is coming up in weight and trying to let's say bully the new division by fighting one of the toughest champion.

And then odd makers putting the champion as the underdog at 3:1. And then Prograis highlighting that he is going to knockout Devin Haney with his power, but Haney will rely on his boxing IQ or his defensive skills. So I believed as what you say, either Haney by decision or Prograis via brutal KO.

I would choose to see a brutal KO but not betting on it. You know, Haney is just too smart and that's the reason why lots of fans are hating him due to his style, like Shakur, they don't bring the excitement that is expecting for a boxing fight. Haney being the heavy favorite, I think Prograis felt disrespected since he's the champion, that's why he wanted to knockout Haney to prove to the people that he owns the throne.

[coin-investor]

I would choose to see a brutal KO but not betting on it. You know, Haney is just too smart and that's the reason why lots of fans are hating him due to his style, like Shakur, they don't bring the excitement that is expecting for a boxing fight. Haney being the heavy favorite, I think Prograis felt disrespected since he's the champion, that's why he wanted to knockout Haney to prove to the people that he owns the throne.

I hope he can, he is highly motivated based on what we saw on their face off he really hates Haney, but that's what Haney wants you to feel, to hate him so he can use that hate against you, we have seen that happened on many of his matches, especially on Kambosos, he just waited for Kambosos to pour so he can counter.
We have a saying style makes a fight, even though Haney is the challenger I don't think will bring the fight to Prograis, only if he sees that he can take Prograis fight.

For Prograis to win he should dominate the early rounds or knock him out because Haney is good at accumulating points, especially in the latter or championship rounds, he should take the fight to Haney and try to take away Haney's game of hit and run.

For Haney to win, he will just wait for Prograis to make mistakes and pile up a lot of points Haney may be a boring fighter but his style is guaranteed to win the fight

[Jating]

I would choose to see a brutal KO but not betting on it. You know, Haney is just too smart and that's the reason why lots of fans are hating him due to his style, like Shakur, they don't bring the excitement that is expecting for a boxing fight. Haney being the heavy favorite, I think Prograis felt disrespected since he's the champion, that's why he wanted to knockout Haney to prove to the people that he owns the throne.

I hope he can, he is highly motivated based on what we saw on their face off he really hates Haney, but that's what Haney wants you to feel, to hate him so he can use that hate against you, we have seen that happened on many of his matches, especially on Kambosos, he just waited for Kambosos to pour so he can counter.
We have a saying style makes a fight, even though Haney is the challenger I don't think will bring the fight to Prograis, only if he sees that he can take Prograis fight.

For Prograis to win he should dominate the early rounds or knock him out because Haney is good at accumulating points, especially in the latter or championship rounds, he should take the fight to Haney and try to take away Haney's game of hit and run.

For Haney to win, he will just wait for Prograis to make mistakes and pile up a lot of points Haney may be a boring fighter but his style is guaranteed to win the fight

Perhaps the hatred is really real, or these boxers are just using it for motivation or like a psyche war, if Haney can get into Prograis head then he might have the edge when the fight begins because all Regis think is to go there and put Haney to sleep. But as we know, Haney uses skills to evade punches, so those early rounds will be crucial for Regis to touch Haney and let him feel his power.

I think that's what happen with Haney vs Linares, Jorge almost got Haney early and almost knock him down. But Haney was able to withstand those early rounds and then win the fight by decision. So let's see what will be the strategy of Prograis and his camp in this fight, it seems that they are really eager to get into the ring and beat up Haney.

[aioc]

Perhaps the hatred is really real, or these boxers are just using it for motivation or like a psyche war, if Haney can get into Prograis head then he might have the edge when the fight begins because all Regis think is to go there and put Haney to sleep. But as we know, Haney uses skills to evade punches, so those early rounds will be crucial for Regis to touch Haney and let him feel his power.

I think that's what happen with Haney vs Linares, Jorge almost got Haney early and almost knock him down. But Haney was able to withstand those early rounds and then win the fight by decision. So let's see what will be the strategy of Prograis and his camp in this fight, it seems that they are really eager to get into the ring and beat up Haney.

Prograis can take a beating I have seen him take a beating against Zepeda and he managed to knock out Zepeda he can bring that kind of game to Haney then he has a chance to win, Prograis should take a chance because, between the two, Prograis is the bigger puncher he just need to negotiate the distance, Haney will always run and make his opponent pay for every mistake.
Prograis should be very aggressive so he can take off Haney's defense, Haney's defense seems impenetrable let's see if Prograis can solve that puzzle.

[bbc.reporter]

It is headshaking that odds on Devin Haney is 1.25. Is he being underestimated for this fight? This should be 1.05 very much similar to the other favored fighters for this event, I reckon.

However, I do not know this Prograis. Will he make this fight more challenging for Haney or will odds on Haney become 1.01 after round 5? I speculate that it will be 1.01 hehehehe.

[bisdak40]

It is headshaking that odds on Devin Haney is 1.25. Is he being underestimated for this fight? This should be 1.05 very much similar to the other favored fighters for this event, I reckon.

However, I do not know this Prograis. Will he make this fight more challenging for Haney or will odds on Haney become 1.01 after round 5? I speculate that it will be 1.01 hehehehe.

Haney is the challenger here mate and his debut for the 140 lbs division, that may be the reason of that odds but i do hope that Haney would not wear his running shoes so we could see the full potential of Prograis. Clinching and running, though part of the game, this would not make Haney a sellable fighter in the higher division.

[btc_angela]

It is headshaking that odds on Devin Haney is 1.25. Is he being underestimated for this fight? This should be 1.05 very much similar to the other favored fighters for this event, I reckon.

However, I do not know this Prograis. Will he make this fight more challenging for Haney or will odds on Haney become 1.01 after round 5? I speculate that it will be 1.01 hehehehe.

Regis knows what the odds are, but according to him, it doesn't matter,

“It don’t insult me or motivate me,” Prograis told BoxingScene.com. “I’m self-motivated, so like for me, I just don’t worry about that. I don’t worry about the outside world. It don’t matter. I already beat the odds. Look where I’m at right now. I beat the odds already, so this little 4-1, that’s nothing for me.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/prograis-i-beat-odds-already-this-little-4-1-on-haney-fight-s-nothing-me--179879

So he is using this as motivate on this fight. You can have to check him out mate, he has a lot of his fights in Youtube and a champion here at 140 lbs and this is his territory. But his performance the last time was in question, and maybe this is the reason why odds maker are putting him as a huge underdog in this fight.

[mirakal]

It is headshaking that odds on Devin Haney is 1.25. Is he being underestimated for this fight? This should be 1.05 very much similar to the other favored fighters for this event, I reckon.

However, I do not know this Prograis. Will he make this fight more challenging for Haney or will odds on Haney become 1.01 after round 5? I speculate that it will be 1.01 hehehehe.

Regis knows what the odds are, but according to him, it doesn't matter,

It doesn't matter for him because he already know he'll be the favorite. I hope he would not underestimate Prograis here, the kind of trashtalking they has to make this fight entertaining, I mean, Prograis should be more aggressive, and try to give pressue to Haney who is the defensive fighter.

can't wait.

“It don’t insult me or motivate me,” Prograis told BoxingScene.com. “I’m self-motivated, so like for me, I just don’t worry about that. I don’t worry about the outside world. It don’t matter. I already beat the odds. Look where I’m at right now. I beat the odds already, so this little 4-1, that’s nothing for me.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/prograis-i-beat-odds-already-this-little-4-1-on-haney-fight-s-nothing-me--179879

So he is using this as motivate on this fight. You can have to check him out mate, he has a lot of his fights in Youtube and a champion here at 140 lbs and this is his territory. But his performance the last time was in question, and maybe this is the reason why odds maker are putting him as a huge underdog in this fight.

This is boxing, it's entertainment, whatever words that came into their mouth are probably just part of the marketing, you know, more people watching more money for thme, so they'll make everything to create a buzz. However, if it does motivate Prograis, then I guess we shall see.

[bbc.reporter]

It is headshaking that odds on Devin Haney is 1.25. Is he being underestimated for this fight? This should be 1.05 very much similar to the other favored fighters for this event, I reckon.

However, I do not know this Prograis. Will he make this fight more challenging for Haney or will odds on Haney become 1.01 after round 5? I speculate that it will be 1.01 hehehehe.

Haney is the challenger here mate and his debut for the 140 lbs division, that may be the reason of that odds but i do hope that Haney would not wear his running shoes so we could see the full potential of Prograis. Clinching and running, though part of the game, this would not make Haney a sellable fighter in the higher division.

I was not very convinced on Haney before the first fight against Kambosos, however, after witnessing a victory in Australia and defending his champioship vs. Lomachenko, I reckon the 5 pound difference might not matter very much for this fight. Also, Haney is very young and growing, I am quite certain that 140 pounds will not be his last weight division.

Haney is also taller than Prograis and has a longer reach. It can be argued that this super lightweight division might presently be the right one for him.

[Japinat]

Prograis got knock down in the 3rd round, damn, Haney is fun to watch now, he is dictating the fight. Prograis trying to throw some jab but he ain't hitting, if he cannot hurt Haney, I'd say this would end like an easy win for Haney if it goes to distance, but there's a possibility that Prograis will be knock out as he looks tired even this early.

[bbc.reporter]

@Japinat. Agreed! He is much stronger in this higher weight division, however, he did not lose his speed and stamina. There are boxers who lose some stamina because of the heavier weight. But as I mentioned already, Devin Haney is young and growing. This is certainly not his real weight division. He will go heavier and he might be champion in 2 more divisions.

[Japinat]

@Japinat. Agreed! He is much stronger in this higher weight division, however, he did not lose his speed and stamina. There are boxers who lose some stamina because of the heavier weight. But as I mentioned already, Devin Haney is young and growing. This is certainly not his real weight division. He will go heavier and he might be champion in 2 more divisions.

This is probably the best fight for Haney that I've witnessed, he was dominating this fight and I doubt Prograis even won a single round. The fight is over, I didn't wait for the decision as it's very obvious Haney will be declared as the winner via unanimous decision. Welcome to our new Champ, and congratulations to the bettors who won betting on Haney to in outright or via decision.

[bisdak40]

@bbc.reporter, you are right, should have been 1.01 ML odds for Haney. Prograis was so overwhelmed by the good footwork of Haney in the early rounds that he could not figure out how to cut the gap between them as Haney also got the power in his new division. But one thing ordinary fans couldn't appreciate is that he lacks the killer's instinct. He could easily knockout Prograis as the latter's legs were no longer there.

So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?

[robelneo]

Prograis is just all hype Haney controls everything in this fight he controls the pace and the distance, Prograis shows nothing it's all Haney all night its a complete dominance and shut off Prograis did not even win a single round, this is one of the easiest fights for Haney, I'm surprised how the fight turned out to be.
Prograis is not here in this fight or Haney is just too good against Prograis.

Official scores are 120-107, 120-107, and 120-107.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Haney was brilliant at exploiting Prograis' weakness. We saw in Prograis' last fight that against technical fighters he looks terrible because he is one dimensional. He has power but he is slow, lacks defense and doesn't move well. Stylistically, it was the worst possible opponent he could have faced. Without the usual aggressiveness from Prograis, Haney was able to cruise to a comfortable shutout decision.

So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?

Shakur hurt his value with his last fight. If he wants that fight he is going to have to chase Haney to 140 or 147 and will have to settle with taking a smaller percentage than what he feels he is worth. Ryan is even more limited than Prograis. Not only will he get dominated but he might get knocked out.

[coin-investor]

This is way too easy for Haney, I thought it was going to be a 50/50 fight, but Haney made it like another day in the office, it is a routine fight, nothing special he just does the things that people used to see him doing, but unfortunately Prograis did not do his assignment it is expected that he will do an adjustment and but he just stands there waiting to counter but Haney was just too fast and too accurate, both fighters have been through a lot of great fights but Haney made Prograis an amateur.

So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?

I'm seeing the result like what we've seen today if he meets any one of these guys because they are not spectacular to counter Haney's move, I like to see Haney against Tank, that's the fight that will look even.

[stadus]

should have been 1.01 ML odds for Haney. Prograis was so overwhelmed by the good footwork of Haney in the early rounds that he could not figure out how to cut the gap between them as Haney also got the power in his new division. But one thing ordinary fans couldn't appreciate is that he lacks the killer's instinct. He could easily knockout Prograis as the latter's legs were no longer there.

Not only on the footwork, he was hesitant because he respected the power of Haney when he got knocked out in the 3rd round. What we saw was a masterclass of Haney, this isn't the only division he'll stop, he'll go further for sure as he knows how to carry his power and speed when moving up.

So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?

I like to see Ryan Garcia, safer for Haney and at the same time I think it'll be more of an entertaining fight.

[Yamifoud]

So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?

I like to see Ryan Garcia, safer for Haney and at the same time I think it'll be more of an entertaining fight.

Same here, we need a fighter that could match Haney's power and speed. I think Ryan has learned a new defensive strategy as what he showcased during his last fight, so I guess he's ready to fight Haney. However, if the fight would happen, I'm sure Ryan will be the underdog as Haney just showed what an exeptional boxer is, even Shakur would unlikely to beat Haney.

[Kemarit]

@bbc.reporter, you are right, should have been 1.01 ML odds for Haney. Prograis was so overwhelmed by the good footwork of Haney in the early rounds that he could not figure out how to cut the gap between them as Haney also got the power in his new division. But one thing ordinary fans couldn't appreciate is that he lacks the killer's instinct. He could easily knockout Prograis as the latter's legs were no longer there.

So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?

Tank Davis would be the best option for Haney, Tank should move up in 140 lbs and then fight Haney for the belt. Davis has been protected by his handlers for many years and it's about time for him to really step up the plate and fight a champion.

Shakur is a full fledge 135 lbs, and I don't see that Haney going back down to that weight class anymore. He has vacated all his belt and I think he will campaign at 140 lbs moving forward. So money fight at 140 lbs for Haney is Tank Davis.

[Saisher]

I like to see Ryan Garcia, safer for Haney and at the same time I think it'll be more of an entertaining fight.

I remember Haney wanting to fight Ryan but the Golden Boy Promotion didn't want it because they were still in the process of building up King Ryan after a few years so many things have changed Haney is now a double division champion while Ryan hasn't won a single major title.

Haney just got better while Ryan is deteriorating this is because Haney is not afraid to take challenges while Ryan is cherry-picking his opponents if they will be the next to square off in the ring I don't think Ryan can keep up with Haney's speed and accuracy, Prograis is an easy fight but if it's going to be a much easier fight when he faces Ryan.

[Viscore]

I like to see Ryan Garcia, safer for Haney and at the same time I think it'll be more of an entertaining fight.

I remember Haney wanting to fight Ryan but the Golden Boy Promotion didn't want it because they were still in the process of building up King Ryan after a few years so many things have changed Haney is now a double division champion while Ryan hasn't won a single major title.

Haney just got better while Ryan is deteriorating this is because Haney is not afraid to take challenges while Ryan is cherry-picking his opponents if they will be the next to square off in the ring I don't think Ryan can keep up with Haney's speed and accuracy, Prograis is an easy fight but if it's going to be a much easier fight when he faces Ryan.

Prograis able to engage through trash talk in the face-off and weigh in but not in the actual fight. I thought Haney would play safer but it was Prograis who is obviously not on the level of his challenger, I mean he is below. That was probably the easiest championship fight for Haney, his face was fresh after the fight but Prograis was all busted, lucky for him he didn't get knockout, otherwise that would be a big "shame on him" moment in his boxing career.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I like to see Ryan Garcia, safer for Haney and at the same time I think it'll be more of an entertaining fight.

I remember Haney wanting to fight Ryan but the Golden Boy Promotion didn't want it because they were still in the process of building up King Ryan after a few years so many things have changed Haney is now a double division champion while Ryan hasn't won a single major title.

Haney just got better while Ryan is deteriorating this is because Haney is not afraid to take challenges while Ryan is cherry-picking his opponents if they will be the next to square off in the ring I don't think Ryan can keep up with Haney's speed and accuracy, Prograis is an easy fight but if it's going to be a much easier fight when he faces Ryan.

Prograis able to engage through trash talk in the face-off and weigh in but not in the actual fight. I thought Haney would play safer but it was Prograis who is obviously not on the level of his challenger, I mean he is below. That was probably the easiest championship fight for Haney, his face was fresh after the fight but Prograis was all busted, lucky for him he didn't get knockout, otherwise that would be a big "shame on him" moment in his boxing career.

Well he did recognized Haney after that fight and he said that he didn't expect that Haney is this good. Maybe it's not underestimating by his trainer and Prograis himself, but the game plan of Haney and he even knock him down. So no excuses for Prograis, he did train very hard in this fight including those trash talking that made this fight very interesting for boxing fans.

But we all know that odd makers put him at a huge 3:1 or even 4:1 underdog at the start.

And so then we discuss that it's either Progais KO Haney early, or Devin winning by a UD in the judges scorecard. So the latter happen, what's next for Haney? He is already a champion once again, so he better fight other belt holders here, and I think he can unify again.

[Baofeng]

Ryan Garcia is calling him up, so this will be great if these fight will happen 2024. Even Oscar Dela Hoya already twitted that he wanted Ryan Garcia vs Devin Haney next and obviously there will be a lot of money here if this fight materialized.

But we will have to give Devin Haney his props in this fight, they carefully chooses Regis here because they know that they can beat him. No offense to Regis, but it seems that he is already on the sunset of his career as per his performance before this fight that's why Bill Haney targeted him.

Let's see, lots of fight for money and legacy for Devin Haney in this division.

[danherbias07]

And so then we discuss that it's either Progais KO Haney early, or Devin winning by a UD in the judges scorecard. So the latter happen, what's next for Haney? He is already a champion once again, so he better fight other belt holders here, and I think he can unify again.

The bout ended in a UD so I think many competitive boxers will try to take him down. I mean, if it's a TKO/KO then they might avoid him but it's a UD which means there's a chance. Although he dominated every round against Regis Prograis there's still that lingering doubt that he will be the most dominant fighter in this division. We've seen dominant, champions and boxers that are being avoided by many even though the belt is on the line.
I bet there will be a champion from another organization that will try to unify those belts.

Or.

Ryan Garcia is calling him up, so this will be great if these fight will happen 2024. Even Oscar Dela Hoya already twitted that he wanted Ryan Garcia vs Devin Haney next and obviously there will be a lot of money here if this fight materialized.

But we will have to give Devin Haney his props in this fight, they carefully chooses Regis here because they know that they can beat him. No offense to Regis, but it seems that he is already on the sunset of his career as per his performance before this fight that's why Bill Haney targeted him.

Let's see, lots of fight for money and legacy for Devin Haney in this division.

Money and title. Hmmm. This could be good but do imagine the risk Haney will take if this happens. Ryan Garcia had been trying to climb the rankings for a chance of a title match. I don't think he is ready and he is still all just hype. But like you said there will be a lot of money on the line because of Ryan's fame in the social media industry.

Yeah, no disrespect to Regis but Haney's camp did their homework. Going up the ladder is not easy because it could slow down a fighter and yet Haney still dominated the bout. I was expecting Prograis to give him one punch that would tell the difference in their weight class but that didn't happen, it's like he is the one who was played.

[Dave1]

I want Haney to go after Ryan Garcia, and if that fight happens, I think Haney will school Garcia just like what he did against Regis here. And with that added weight, I think Haney absorb the power or Regis and then himself having the power to knock him out.

Although we really don't like the style of Haney, he seems to be very effective.

And he is also maturing and turning to be a great fighter now and he is about to hit his prime years.

[robelneo]

I want Haney to go after Ryan Garcia, and if that fight happens, I think Haney will school Garcia just like what he did against Regis here. And with that added weight, I think Haney absorb the power or Regis and then himself having the power to knock him out.

Although we really don't like the style of Haney, he seems to be very effective.

And he is also maturing and turning to be a great fighter now and he is about to hit his prime years.

Ryan also wants Haney and there is news that's coming out that Oscar promotion will make it happen, that's a big turn around, Haney has been wanting to face Ryan in the past, but now they are the ones coming for him, analyzing both fighters recent fight I don't think Ryan can keep up with Haney's speed and skill, there's a big gap between the two, Haney is just too good and he's getting better he was sharpened by those great fights with Loma and Kambosos, while Ryan do not have big names in his resume that he has beaten, except Edwards, of course, Tank demolish him.

[Fundamentals Of]

I want Haney to go after Ryan Garcia, and if that fight happens, I think Haney will school Garcia just like what he did against Regis here. And with that added weight, I think Haney absorb the power or Regis and then himself having the power to knock him out.

Although we really don't like the style of Haney, he seems to be very effective.

And he is also maturing and turning to be a great fighter now and he is about to hit his prime years.

This fight might happen. Both boxers are still probably interested to have this fight. And their respective promotions are probably interested also because this is good money for them. Despite the two not really amazing fighters with Ryan having no belt to put at stake and Haney being very too careful, there may be fans who want this.

Haney is indeed very effective. His style is a winning style, but very boring style. He can even maintain a perfect record with that defensive strategy, but he should get used to loud boos in his fights.

[FinneysTrueVision]

I'm seeing the result like what we've seen today if he meets any one of these guys because they are not spectacular to counter Haney's move, I like to see Haney against Tank, that's the fight that will look even.

Everybody wants to see Tank fight an elite opponent but he is content with mismatches because he can make a lot of money without much effort. He is the biggest star out of all the lightweight and super lightweight fighters so he can pick whoever he wants. He can talk all the trash he wants about Haney on social media but in the end he won't back his words up inside the ring, instead he'll choose a less threatening option like Isaac Cruz.

And to those who were disappointed because this is a PPV event, it's because Eddie's favorite fighter is in the undercard.

One of the most overhyped and overrated fighters I've seen in a long time. Being an online thot with huge implants and blonde hair can only get you so far. Ebanie has no significant talent and at her age won't really improve. At least she has a sizable following of degenerates willing to pay for her "content", so when Eddie inevitably kicks this sideshow act to the curb she has some other source of income to fall back on.

[Yamifoud]

I want Haney to go after Ryan Garcia, and if that fight happens, I think Haney will school Garcia just like what he did against Regis here. And with that added weight, I think Haney absorb the power or Regis and then himself having the power to knock him out.

Although we really don't like the style of Haney, he seems to be very effective.

And he is also maturing and turning to be a great fighter now and he is about to hit his prime years.

This fight might happen. Both boxers are still probably interested to have this fight. And their respective promotions are probably interested also because this is good money for them. Despite the two not really amazing fighters with Ryan having no belt to put at stake and Haney being very too careful, there may be fans who want this.

Haney is indeed very effective. His style is a winning style, but very boring style. He can even maintain a perfect record with that defensive strategy, but he should get used to loud boos in his fights.

That would help Haney to make a good payday as Ryan Garcia is very popular, he could help sell the PPV subs just like what he did against Tank Davis. On the other hand, this would also help Garcia back in a championship fight again, and a win here (although unlikely) would make him a champion. So it's a win-win for both fighters if we are looking an some earning opportunity.

[TravelMug]

I want Haney to go after Ryan Garcia, and if that fight happens, I think Haney will school Garcia just like what he did against Regis here. And with that added weight, I think Haney absorb the power or Regis and then himself having the power to knock him out.

Although we really don't like the style of Haney, he seems to be very effective.

And he is also maturing and turning to be a great fighter now and he is about to hit his prime years.

This fight might happen. Both boxers are still probably interested to have this fight. And their respective promotions are probably interested also because this is good money for them. Despite the two not really amazing fighters with Ryan having no belt to put at stake and Haney being very too careful, there may be fans who want this.

Haney is indeed very effective. His style is a winning style, but very boring style. He can even maintain a perfect record with that defensive strategy, but he should get used to loud boos in his fights.

That would help Haney to make a good payday as Ryan Garcia is very popular, he could help sell the PPV subs just like what he did against Tank Davis. On the other hand, this would also help Garcia back in a championship fight again, and a win here (although unlikely) would make him a champion. So it's a win-win for both fighters if we are looking an some earning opportunity.

Yeah, and probably this is the reason why Garcia is calling Haney right now after that win of Devin. So it's just a matter of time before this two will fight. And I don't think that it's going to be very hard to negotiate. I mean Oscar could easily get down and sit with the Haney's or vice-versa. And then both camps accepting what the split as they don't that there are a big money on the line here. So as you have said, it's a win win situation, Ryan fighting for a belt again, and with his new trainer, he seems to be motivated and all his mental issues is gone. On the other hand, Haney is cementing his legacy, unified the belt at 135 lbs, and now a new champion at 140 lbs and he can do the same here. And I here him saying that he could be the fighter of the year and his dad, trainer of the year.

[inthelongrun]

And to those who were disappointed because this is a PPV event, it's because Eddie's favorite fighter is in the undercard.

One of the most overhyped and overrated fighters I've seen in a long time. Being an online thot with huge implants and blonde hair can only get you so far. Ebanie has no significant talent and at her age won't really improve. At least she has a sizable following of degenerates willing to pay for her "content", so when Eddie inevitably kicks this sideshow act to the curb she has some other source of income to fall back on.

I am not sure how many paid followers she has but probably more than enough that enabled her to get a name in the sport even with her mediocre skills. And I'm glad she lost.
Meanwhile, Ryan Garcia is opening his mouth again. But will he walk the talk or it's just for publicity again? He better be careful since GBP still has a live contract, Oscar and BHop would love to make it since it is a big fight even if they knew Ryan is going to get schooled worse than Prograis or even get stopped in the late rounds.

As for Prograis, he's turning 35 next month. He's still planning to become a 3-time world champion but I doubt it will happen unless he lands a Hail Mary punch. It's okay to lose but he seemed clueless against Haney and before that, he also had another poor performance but he managed to escape with a split decision. He's probably done, maybe Ryan should fight him next and exploit what's left of him.

[bisdak40]

As for Prograis, he's turning 35 next month. He's still planning to become a 3-time world champion but I doubt it will happen unless he lands a Hail Mary punch. It's okay to lose but he seemed clueless against Haney and before that, he also had another poor performance but he managed to escape with a split decision. He's probably done, maybe Ryan should fight him next and exploit what's left of him.

Maybe Ryan Garcia should fight Prograis first before eyeing a fight with Haney. Two successive bad performances for Prograis but I think it won't be an easy fight for Garcia if ever the two will meet in the ring as Garcia also got an unimpressive win against Duarte.

IMO, Haney will have second thoughts on whether he will fight Garcia as the latter is taller than him and heavy-handed and also quick which would pose problems for him. That lucky punch is one thing that Haney avoided and Garcia has that so I think he won't pick Garcia unless the price is right.

[yazher]

IMO, Haney will have second thoughts on whether he will fight Garcia as the latter is taller than him and heavy-handed and also quick which would pose problems for him. That lucky punch is one thing that Haney avoided and Garcia has that so I think he won't pick Garcia unless the price is right.

I don't think Garcia is ready for Haney because that could be an easy win for him all he needs to do is set up a good defense and make Garcia tired as usual. Garcia needs to at least excel in all efforts to improve his stamina and win some fights as easily as before because, with that kind of conditioning, he won't be surviving a kind of opponent like Haney because these guys are masters when it comes to 12 rounds non-stop actions inside the ring.

[Fundamentals Of]

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That would help Haney to make a good payday as Ryan Garcia is very popular, he could help sell the PPV subs just like what he did against Tank Davis. On the other hand, this would also help Garcia back in a championship fight again, and a win here (although unlikely) would make him a champion. So it's a win-win for both fighters if we are looking an some earning opportunity.

Yeah, and probably this is the reason why Garcia is calling Haney right now after that win of Devin. So it's just a matter of time before this two will fight. And I don't think that it's going to be very hard to negotiate. I mean Oscar could easily get down and sit with the Haney's or vice-versa. And then both camps accepting what the split as they don't that there are a big money on the line here. So as you have said, it's a win win situation, Ryan fighting for a belt again, and with his new trainer, he seems to be motivated and all his mental issues is gone. On the other hand, Haney is cementing his legacy, unified the belt at 135 lbs, and now a new champion at 140 lbs and he can do the same here. And I here him saying that he could be the fighter of the year and his dad, trainer of the year.

It will be up to Haney. Ryan doesn't have anything to offer but his popular name. But since Haney is a boring fighter, it might help that his opponent is Ryan Garcia, even if he isn't anymore the King Ryan that the boxing world used to know, to attract fans and make money.

Ryan is calling everybody even if he's not anymore a star. Haney may take the challenge and probably even win. Ryan is only confident from the outside. Inside, he's a sad, lonely, and fearful little boy.

[Yaunfitda]

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That would help Haney to make a good payday as Ryan Garcia is very popular, he could help sell the PPV subs just like what he did against Tank Davis. On the other hand, this would also help Garcia back in a championship fight again, and a win here (although unlikely) would make him a champion. So it's a win-win for both fighters if we are looking an some earning opportunity.

Yeah, and probably this is the reason why Garcia is calling Haney right now after that win of Devin. So it's just a matter of time before this two will fight. And I don't think that it's going to be very hard to negotiate. I mean Oscar could easily get down and sit with the Haney's or vice-versa. And then both camps accepting what the split as they don't that there are a big money on the line here. So as you have said, it's a win win situation, Ryan fighting for a belt again, and with his new trainer, he seems to be motivated and all his mental issues is gone. On the other hand, Haney is cementing his legacy, unified the belt at 135 lbs, and now a new champion at 140 lbs and he can do the same here. And I here him saying that he could be the fighter of the year and his dad, trainer of the year.

It will be up to Haney. Ryan doesn't have anything to offer but his popular name. But since Haney is a boring fighter, it might help that his opponent is Ryan Garcia, even if he isn't anymore the King Ryan that the boxing world used to know, to attract fans and make money.

Of course, even if Ryan doesn't have the belt at 140 lbs, he can generate money thru PPV as he has a lot of followers, and it's a low risk high reward for the Haney's. They know that they can defeat Ryan as this point. Although Ryan has won his last fight, and has some changes in style, but I don't think that is enough to give Haney a problem. Haney is improving as we speak.

Ryan is calling everybody even if he's not anymore a star. Haney may take the challenge and probably even win. Ryan is only confident from the outside. Inside, he's a sad, lonely, and fearful little boy.

And that's how Ryan create hype for his name, he call's everyone along his path. Remember even Manny Pacquiao was in his target list before. So if Haney wanted more money or at least get his biggest paycheck he might want to choose Ryan Garcia next.

[Japinat]

Ryan is calling everybody even if he's not anymore a star. Haney may take the challenge and probably even win.

He knows his value mate, his a PPV boy. Even if he is not a champion now, i think we can consider him as a star since he is very popular in boxing. And with his recent win, we can see that he wants to come back and I wouldn't be surprise if he'll get a championship fight soon since promoters would be happy to see him in the ring as the fight will surely sell to the crowd, and of course to the PPV subscribers.

Ryan is only confident from the outside. Inside, he's a sad, lonely, and fearful little boy.

We know what he went through, he admitted he had some mental health issue, but he's fine now, at least that's what his camped said.

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It will be up to Haney. Ryan doesn't have anything to offer but his popular name. But since Haney is a boring fighter, it might help that his opponent is Ryan Garcia, even if he isn't anymore the King Ryan that the boxing world used to know, to attract fans and make money.

Of course, even if Ryan doesn't have the belt at 140 lbs, he can generate money thru PPV as he has a lot of followers, and it's a low risk high reward for the Haney's. They know that they can defeat Ryan as this point. Although Ryan has won his last fight, and has some changes in style, but I don't think that is enough to give Haney a problem. Haney is improving as we speak.

Ryan won against a nobody. Duarte wasn't somebody in boxing, so even if it was a knockout for Ryan, it was actually nothing. It didn't really show a big improvement. But at least Ryan had his conditioning match. But that wasn't probably enough preparation if he faces Haney next. He better start with Prograis, who didn't win a single round against Haney but could even defeat him, and Haney will face Gervonta next.

Ryan is calling everybody even if he's not anymore a star. Haney may take the challenge and probably even win. Ryan is only confident from the outside. Inside, he's a sad, lonely, and fearful little boy.

And that's how Ryan create hype for his name, he call's everyone along his path. Remember even Manny Pacquiao was in his target list before. So if Haney wanted more money or at least get his biggest paycheck he might want to choose Ryan Garcia next.

Yes, Ryan is a low risk high reward option for Haney. High reward only for money of course. Ryan doesn't have anything else to offer on the table.

[Kemarit]

Ryan is calling everybody even if he's not anymore a star. Haney may take the challenge and probably even win.

He knows his value mate, his a PPV boy. Even if he is not a champion now, i think we can consider him as a star since he is very popular in boxing. And with his recent win, we can see that he wants to come back and I wouldn't be surprise if he'll get a championship fight soon since promoters would be happy to see him in the ring as the fight will surely sell to the crowd, and of course to the PPV subscribers.

Ryan is only confident from the outside. Inside, he's a sad, lonely, and fearful little boy.

Yes, we can even call him a PPV king for this year, him and Davis has the highest PPV when they fought. Although it takes two boxers inside the ring, but I think Ryan bring so much in the table hyping any fight of his. Just like the last time wherein he even have a beef with his boss, Oscar and Bernard and then knocking out Duarte.

We know what he went through, he admitted he had some mental health issue, but he's fine now, at least that's what his camped said.

When a fighter wins, I don't think they ever come across about mental health or not. So obvious in this case, him and Derrick James could have a long and good relationships if he keeps on winning fights with James as his trainer.

[inthelongrun]

IMO, Haney will have second thoughts on whether he will fight Garcia as the latter is taller than him and heavy-handed and also quick which would pose problems for him. That lucky punch is one thing that Haney avoided and Garcia has that so I think he won't pick Garcia unless the price is right.

I don't think Garcia is ready for Haney because that could be an easy win for him all he needs to do is set up a good defense and make Garcia tired as usual. Garcia needs to at least excel in all efforts to improve his stamina and win some fights as easily as before because, with that kind of conditioning, he won't be surviving a kind of opponent like Haney because these guys are masters when it comes to 12 rounds non-stop actions inside the ring.

Bai, I agree with yazher. Ryan Garcia is easy work for Devin Haney. Ryan is tall which means his body is easier to hit and Haney might be light-handed but he is too quick and smart. So far Ryan remains unproven to me. Ryan might be quick on his training but he cannot execute them and will have doubts when inside the ring against caliber fighters. He carries a punch though but based on his last fights and at 140, Devin Haney will enter the ring not dehydrated so he will be stronger, quicker and I also believe he can stop Ryan in the mid to late rounds. It will be a brutal massacre IMO. Ryan's face gets disfigured and his body will be colored red from those body punches by Haney.

[Japinat]

IMO, Haney will have second thoughts on whether he will fight Garcia as the latter is taller than him and heavy-handed and also quick which would pose problems for him. That lucky punch is one thing that Haney avoided and Garcia has that so I think he won't pick Garcia unless the price is right.

I don't think Garcia is ready for Haney because that could be an easy win for him all he needs to do is set up a good defense and make Garcia tired as usual. Garcia needs to at least excel in all efforts to improve his stamina and win some fights as easily as before because, with that kind of conditioning, he won't be surviving a kind of opponent like Haney because these guys are masters when it comes to 12 rounds non-stop actions inside the ring.

Bai, I agree with yazher. Ryan Garcia is easy work for Devin Haney. Ryan is tall which means his body is easier to hit and Haney might be light-handed but he is too quick and smart. So far Ryan remains unproven to me. Ryan might be quick on his training but he cannot execute them and will have doubts when inside the ring against caliber fighters. He carries a punch though but based on his last fights and at 140, Devin Haney will enter the ring not dehydrated so he will be stronger, quicker and I also believe he can stop Ryan in the mid to late rounds. It will be a brutal massacre IMO. Ryan's face gets disfigured and his body will be colored red from those body punches by Haney.

It's easy to tell by just comparing their performance in their previous fight.

Though both fighters have won the fight but it was Haney who made a very dominant win, a unanimous decision win from a challenger, and now he is the current champion. While on Ryan's fight, it wasn't even a championship fight and he struggled a bit against a figther that does not owned a good ranking before the fight.

Ryan does not deserve Haney, but for fans to be entertain, this should happen, however, I'm not expecting Ryan will have a shot at winning.

[TravelMug]

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That would help Haney to make a good payday as Ryan Garcia is very popular, he could help sell the PPV subs just like what he did against Tank Davis. On the other hand, this would also help Garcia back in a championship fight again, and a win here (although unlikely) would make him a champion. So it's a win-win for both fighters if we are looking an some earning opportunity.

Yeah, and probably this is the reason why Garcia is calling Haney right now after that win of Devin. So it's just a matter of time before this two will fight. And I don't think that it's going to be very hard to negotiate. I mean Oscar could easily get down and sit with the Haney's or vice-versa. And then both camps accepting what the split as they don't that there are a big money on the line here. So as you have said, it's a win win situation, Ryan fighting for a belt again, and with his new trainer, he seems to be motivated and all his mental issues is gone. On the other hand, Haney is cementing his legacy, unified the belt at 135 lbs, and now a new champion at 140 lbs and he can do the same here. And I here him saying that he could be the fighter of the year and his dad, trainer of the year.

It will be up to Haney. Ryan doesn't have anything to offer but his popular name. But since Haney is a boring fighter, it might help that his opponent is Ryan Garcia, even if he isn't anymore the King Ryan that the boxing world used to know, to attract fans and make money.

Ryan is calling everybody even if he's not anymore a star. Haney may take the challenge and probably even win. Ryan is only confident from the outside. Inside, he's a sad, lonely, and fearful little boy.

And that is what he has to offer in this fight, hype and he is good in promoting his any of his fight, big mouth Ryan and doesn't care who he step to just to say what he wanted to say. So that could be mean that this is going to be a superfight, although Ryan has no belt and Haney has one, it is still very interesting and intriguing clash of styles. And it will also be Bill Haney vs Derrick James behind. So we will see who's training style is going to win in this fight. So it's up to the Haney's, Ryan Garcia, or Teofimo Lopez is the best option, or there could be the other champion in Romero or Matias for that matter. Shakur and Tank Davis should not be an option for Haney unless if this two goes up to jr. welterweight now.

[Baofeng]

And it seems that Devin Haney and Gervonta Davis is going at it in their social media,



https://twitter.com/Realdevinhaney/status/1735287265180741880

Now, we will see who will blink here, hehehe, so far though it looks like Tank Davis has deleted his reply. Nevertheless I do want this fight to be at 140 lbs. Davis can easily make that jump in weight, he fought Barrios at 140 lbs, he officially clock in at  139 ¾ lbs so he can do it.

So that there will be no excuses that Haney fought weight drain.

[Dave1]

And it seems that Devin Haney and Gervonta Davis is going at it in their social media,



https://twitter.com/Realdevinhaney/status/1735287265180741880

Now, we will see who will blink here, hehehe, so far though it looks like Tank Davis has deleted his reply. Nevertheless I do want this fight to be at 140 lbs. Davis can easily make that jump in weight, he fought Barrios at 140 lbs, he officially clock in at  139 ¾ lbs so he can do it.

So that there will be no excuses that Haney fought weight drain.

That's money fight, Haney vs Davis next year and Tank going up for the jr welterweight. Yes, He has once fought at this division because it was careful matching with Barrios, good in paper but Tank has all the advantage in that fight. And after that, he goes back to 135 lbs.

And Haney is now calling him, it's really up to him whether he accepts the challenge or not but it seems that he wanted to fight Haney. So his camp should stop protecting him as this is what they do throughout his career, carefully picking up his opponents and to make him good. And even if he fought Ryan, we all know that Ryan is drain at 135 lbs and then they have to insert those rehydration clause to make sure that Ryan will not go above a certain weight and have the advantage.

[bisdak40]

And it seems that Devin Haney and Gervonta Davis is going at it in their social media,



https://twitter.com/Realdevinhaney/status/1735287265180741880

Now, we will see who will blink here, hehehe, so far though it looks like Tank Davis has deleted his reply. Nevertheless I do want this fight to be at 140 lbs. Davis can easily make that jump in weight, he fought Barrios at 140 lbs, he officially clock in at  139 ¾ lbs so he can do it.

So that there will be no excuses that Haney fought weight drain.

That's money fight, Haney vs Davis next year and Tank going up for the jr welterweight. Yes, He has once fought at this division because it was careful matching with Barrios, good in paper but Tank has all the advantage in that fight. And after that, he goes back to 135 lbs.

And Haney is now calling him, it's really up to him whether he accepts the challenge or not but it seems that he wanted to fight Haney. So his camp should stop protecting him as this is what they do throughout his career, carefully picking up his opponents and to make him good. And even if he fought Ryan, we all know that Ryan is drain at 135 lbs and then they have to insert those rehydration clause to make sure that Ryan will not go above a certain weight and have the advantage.

Devin Haney has the advantage of this fight if pushes through at 140 pound division. Haney is too big for Davis if no rehydration clause that would be stipulated in the contract. Davis seems to have problem with bigger fighters as what we have seen in his fight against Hector Garcia. Hector Garcia and Devin Haney has more or less the same height but talent-wise, Haney is superior than Garcia so this may be the reason why he deleted his reply on Haney's call out on him, to suppress the fire hehe.

[btc_angela]

And it seems that Devin Haney and Gervonta Davis is going at it in their social media,



https://twitter.com/Realdevinhaney/status/1735287265180741880

Now, we will see who will blink here, hehehe, so far though it looks like Tank Davis has deleted his reply. Nevertheless I do want this fight to be at 140 lbs. Davis can easily make that jump in weight, he fought Barrios at 140 lbs, he officially clock in at  139 ¾ lbs so he can do it.

So that there will be no excuses that Haney fought weight drain.

That's money fight, Haney vs Davis next year and Tank going up for the jr welterweight. Yes, He has once fought at this division because it was careful matching with Barrios, good in paper but Tank has all the advantage in that fight. And after that, he goes back to 135 lbs.

And Haney is now calling him, it's really up to him whether he accepts the challenge or not but it seems that he wanted to fight Haney. So his camp should stop protecting him as this is what they do throughout his career, carefully picking up his opponents and to make him good. And even if he fought Ryan, we all know that Ryan is drain at 135 lbs and then they have to insert those rehydration clause to make sure that Ryan will not go above a certain weight and have the advantage.

Devin Haney has the advantage of this fight if pushes through at 140 pound division. Haney is too big for Davis if no rehydration clause that would be stipulated in the contract. Davis seems to have problem with bigger fighters as what we have seen in his fight against Hector Garcia. Hector Garcia and Devin Haney has more or less the same height but talent-wise, Haney is superior than Garcia so this may be the reason why he deleted his reply on Haney's call out on him, to suppress the fire hehe.

It  could be that he was advises by his camp to just calm down and not throw in more fire that's why he deleted his responses and attack on the Haney's. And with this win, Haney doesn't want to go back to 135 lbs anymore, he has vacated the belt and Tank and Shakur could be the one taking over that division.

But the biggest fight is in the Junior welterweight now, Haney, Lopez, Garcia are already in that division.

If he feels that he is smaller then that on him. He can't have that ridiculous stipulation clauses though, I think Haney could be the A-side here as he is now a champion at this division.

[inthelongrun]

Did they just delete their back-and-forth tweets? But no problem, some people are just too quick to save them.



Tank can only say nothing because he is all talk. He can bark all he wants but he has no balls to face a champion at 135. Everybody wants Tank because he is popular and there's money on it just like Jake Paul and Ryan Garcia. Haney wanted him bad at 135 offering him an opportunity to be great by winning the undisputed championships in just one fight but Tank is too scared. Now Tank is barking knowing Haney won't drop down again at 135.

Meanwhile, here are the rumors at 140.
- Lineal and WBO champion Teofimo Lopez is in serious negotiation for a unification bout against IBF holder Subriel Matias. This is going to be fireworks so hopefully this will happen and the other belts should be united once again.
- Ryan Garcia, his team, and GBP are also negotiating a fight with Liam Paro, the same guy who scored a knockout in the Haney-Prograis main undercard. Ryan talking about the champions but is also scared to really fight them. But I respect him taking out Liam Paro. I believe Paro is a legit contender, so I will respect Ryan if he fights the tough Australian but not in dirty corrupt Texas of course.

[TravelMug]

^^ We will give props to Teo Lopez if he is willing to fight Matias and for the unification. I will say Matias could be one to be avoided in this division, yes he is a champion but his power is scary and he is the odd man out. So for Lopez is targeting him then he has the balls. And most likely though Lopez is going to be the A-side in this fight and maybe what 70-30 split. I think it will be good for Matias to get that kind of money and it could be his biggest paycheck. As for Garcia vs Paro, still good fight as well, maybe GBP is still trying to build up Ryan in his division very slowly, so careful match-making from them. They don't want Ryan to go against Haney or even Lopez yet, they need to built his hype again before chasing for the belt fight.

[Kemarit]

^^ We will give props to Teo Lopez if he is willing to fight Matias and for the unification. I will say Matias could be one to be avoided in this division, yes he is a champion but his power is scary and he is the odd man out. So for Lopez is targeting him then he has the balls. And most likely though Lopez is going to be the A-side in this fight and maybe what 70-30 split. I think it will be good for Matias to get that kind of money and it could be his biggest paycheck. As for Garcia vs Paro, still good fight as well, maybe GBP is still trying to build up Ryan in his division very slowly, so careful match-making from them. They don't want Ryan to go against Haney or even Lopez yet, they need to built his hype again before chasing for the belt fight.

Perhaps he has seen loophole on Matias, Subriel doesn't move that much and most likely his father saw this weakness on Matias so they think it's going to be an easy target for them. But for Haney, I don't think that they have Matias on their mind. Most likely, they will go for either Ryan Garcia (if GBP is willing and not protect Garcia), or Lopez himself.

Or if the back and forth between the Haney's and the camp of Tank Davis will materialized, then we will see Davis going up to 140 lbs but with no clauses on the contract as per the Haney's.

[Viscore]

^^ We will give props to Teo Lopez if he is willing to fight Matias and for the unification. I will say Matias could be one to be avoided in this division, yes he is a champion but his power is scary and he is the odd man out. So for Lopez is targeting him then he has the balls. And most likely though Lopez is going to be the A-side in this fight and maybe what 70-30 split. I think it will be good for Matias to get that kind of money and it could be his biggest paycheck. As for Garcia vs Paro, still good fight as well, maybe GBP is still trying to build up Ryan in his division very slowly, so careful match-making from them. They don't want Ryan to go against Haney or even Lopez yet, they need to built his hype again before chasing for the belt fight.

Perhaps he has seen loophole on Matias, Subriel doesn't move that much and most likely his father saw this weakness on Matias so they think it's going to be an easy target for them. But for Haney, I don't think that they have Matias on their mind. Most likely, they will go for either Ryan Garcia (if GBP is willing and not protect Garcia), or Lopez himself.

Or if the back and forth between the Haney's and the camp of Tank Davis will materialized, then we will see Davis going up to 140 lbs but with no clauses on the contract as per the Haney's.

Now, there are lots of great boxers that are interested in fight with Haney. Yeah, he's moving up and I think he's enjoying it, first attempt and he already became a champion, I think it's best for him to unify all the belts in the division he is now. Well, if Davis is willing to fight Haney, that's an excemption, I mean that should be prioritize as that's big money, bigger than a championship fight is not going to be.

Davis, Ryan Garcia (easy), and Loma, these are the three boxers I like to see Haney fight. I know it will be a rematch for Loma but that was controversial, I guess if Haney wants to cement his legacy, he should give Loma another chance and beat him convincingly so fans will stop doubting him.

[Kemarit]

^^ We will give props to Teo Lopez if he is willing to fight Matias and for the unification. I will say Matias could be one to be avoided in this division, yes he is a champion but his power is scary and he is the odd man out. So for Lopez is targeting him then he has the balls. And most likely though Lopez is going to be the A-side in this fight and maybe what 70-30 split. I think it will be good for Matias to get that kind of money and it could be his biggest paycheck. As for Garcia vs Paro, still good fight as well, maybe GBP is still trying to build up Ryan in his division very slowly, so careful match-making from them. They don't want Ryan to go against Haney or even Lopez yet, they need to built his hype again before chasing for the belt fight.

Perhaps he has seen loophole on Matias, Subriel doesn't move that much and most likely his father saw this weakness on Matias so they think it's going to be an easy target for them. But for Haney, I don't think that they have Matias on their mind. Most likely, they will go for either Ryan Garcia (if GBP is willing and not protect Garcia), or Lopez himself.

Or if the back and forth between the Haney's and the camp of Tank Davis will materialized, then we will see Davis going up to 140 lbs but with no clauses on the contract as per the Haney's.

Now, there are lots of great boxers that are interested in fight with Haney. Yeah, he's moving up and I think he's enjoying it, first attempt and he already became a champion, I think it's best for him to unify all the belts in the division he is now. Well, if Davis is willing to fight Haney, that's an excemption, I mean that should be prioritize as that's big money, bigger than a championship fight is not going to be.

Everyone is interested because Haney had the belt now in 140 lbs, this 4 though should have fought in the 135 lbs, Lopez, Haney, Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis. But we were deprived of it as the 3 of them have move up and we also saw Ryan vs Tank Davis. Although Davis won, but we think that he weight drain Ryan Garcia that's why he look very weak in that fight.

Davis, Ryan Garcia (easy), and Loma, these are the three boxers I like to see Haney fight. I know it will be a rematch for Loma but that was controversial, I guess if Haney wants to cement his legacy, he should give Loma another chance and beat him convincingly so fans will stop doubting him.

Loma vs Haney? They fought already and Haney won, although it's controversial as others saw that Loma might have won the second stretch of the fight. Not sure though that Haney will fight Loma again, he is no longer interested at a rematch. Loma will be at a disadvantage at 140 lbs as he will be too small. It will be Haney vs the rest of the champion and then Davis when he decided to go up at 140 lbs.

[bisdak40]

Loma vs Haney? They fought already and Haney won, although it's controversial as others saw that Loma might have won the second stretch of the fight. Not sure though that Haney will fight Loma again, he is no longer interested at a rematch. Loma will be at a disadvantage at 140 lbs as he will be too small. It will be Haney vs the rest of the champion and then Davis when he decided to go up at 140 lbs.

Loma vs Haney at 140 will not happen as Loma will not go up in weight, 136 might be his maximum division. With regards to Haney, he is too big now that going to 136 is impractical, and besides the money fights are in the higher weight division.

Haney vs Teo Lopez will be entertaining to watch I think as both boxers have contrasting styles, counter-puncher vs aggressor, hope they will make this fight happen while they are still in the peak of their careers.

[inthelongrun]

Loma vs Haney? They fought already and Haney won, although it's controversial as others saw that Loma might have won the second stretch of the fight. Not sure though that Haney will fight Loma again, he is no longer interested at a rematch. Loma will be at a disadvantage at 140 lbs as he will be too small. It will be Haney vs the rest of the champion and then Davis when he decided to go up at 140 lbs.

Loma vs Haney at 140 will not happen as Loma will not go up in weight, 136 might be his maximum division. With regards to Haney, he is too big now that going to 136 is impractical, and besides the money fights are in the higher weight division.

Haney vs Teo Lopez will be entertaining to watch I think as both boxers have contrasting styles, counter-puncher vs aggressor, hope they will make this fight happen while they are still in the peak of their careers.

Loma is also fighting Kambosos for the vacant IBF belt at 135 in Australia and I also doubt he will move up to 140. Plus Haney felt offended when Arum was caught saying Loma clearly beat him. The same reason why Haney left Top Rank even if the offer was bigger and better compared to Matchroom. So in the meantime, until the wound heals, I highly doubt Haney will fight a Top Rank fighter next year which means Teo and Loma are out of the picture.

It's hard to think what's next for Haney. WBA and IBF champs are with PBC although Matias isn't that popular so he might be allowed to have a single fight on the other rival networks. But Matias might face Teofimo Lopez next.

[btc_angela]

Loma vs Haney? They fought already and Haney won, although it's controversial as others saw that Loma might have won the second stretch of the fight. Not sure though that Haney will fight Loma again, he is no longer interested at a rematch. Loma will be at a disadvantage at 140 lbs as he will be too small. It will be Haney vs the rest of the champion and then Davis when he decided to go up at 140 lbs.

Loma vs Haney at 140 will not happen as Loma will not go up in weight, 136 might be his maximum division. With regards to Haney, he is too big now that going to 136 is impractical, and besides the money fights are in the higher weight division.

Haney vs Teo Lopez will be entertaining to watch I think as both boxers have contrasting styles, counter-puncher vs aggressor, hope they will make this fight happen while they are still in the peak of their careers.

Loma is also fighting Kambosos for the vacant IBF belt at 135 in Australia and I also doubt he will move up to 140. Plus Haney felt offended when Arum was caught saying Loma clearly beat him. The same reason why Haney left Top Rank even if the offer was bigger and better compared to Matchroom. So in the meantime, until the wound heals, I highly doubt Haney will fight a Top Rank fighter next year which means Teo and Loma are out of the picture.

It's hard to think what's next for Haney. WBA and IBF champs are with PBC although Matias isn't that popular so he might be allowed to have a single fight on the other rival networks. But Matias might face Teofimo Lopez next.

As long as the fight is at 140 lbs, I think any fight will make sense for Haney. For me he should forget about Davis for now, it's just so many back and forth between him and Davis and I don't see him going up to 140 lbs for now.

He will be staying in 135 lbs because belts are vacant and maybe going at least 1, wherein he will be confident who will be his opponent.

Like the idea of Loma vs Kambosos, they supposedly to fight 2022 if I'm not mistaken, and we all know what's the reason for the fight being cancelled. But at least if this fight push through it will still be at least for a championship belt.

[bisdak40]

Loma vs Haney? They fought already and Haney won, although it's controversial as others saw that Loma might have won the second stretch of the fight. Not sure though that Haney will fight Loma again, he is no longer interested at a rematch. Loma will be at a disadvantage at 140 lbs as he will be too small. It will be Haney vs the rest of the champion and then Davis when he decided to go up at 140 lbs.

Loma vs Haney at 140 will not happen as Loma will not go up in weight, 136 might be his maximum division. With regards to Haney, he is too big now that going to 136 is impractical, and besides the money fights are in the higher weight division.

Haney vs Teo Lopez will be entertaining to watch I think as both boxers have contrasting styles, counter-puncher vs aggressor, hope they will make this fight happen while they are still in the peak of their careers.

Loma is also fighting Kambosos for the vacant IBF belt at 135 in Australia and I also doubt he will move up to 140. Plus Haney felt offended when Arum was caught saying Loma clearly beat him. The same reason why Haney left Top Rank even if the offer was bigger and better compared to Matchroom. So in the meantime, until the wound heals, I highly doubt Haney will fight a Top Rank fighter next year which means Teo and Loma are out of the picture.

It's hard to think what's next for Haney. WBA and IBF champs are with PBC although Matias isn't that popular so he might be allowed to have a single fight on the other rival networks. But Matias might face Teofimo Lopez next.

As long as the fight is at 140 lbs, I think any fight will make sense for Haney. For me he should forget about Davis for now, it's just so many back and forth between him and Davis and I don't see him going up to 140 lbs for now.

He will be staying in 135 lbs because belts are vacant and maybe going at least 1, wherein he will be confident who will be his opponent.

Like the idea of Loma vs Kambosos, they supposedly to fight 2022 if I'm not mistaken, and we all know what's the reason for the fight being cancelled. But at least if this fight push through it will still be at least for a championship belt.

I've read that DAZN has offered the camp of Davis 20 million USD to fight Daven Haney, will they take the bait?

I think they will reject that offer if the fight happens at 140 and without any rehydration clause as Haney is just to big Davis as the former could go up to 160 lbs after the weigh-in.

Yeah, hard to think what's next for Haney right now but he needs to fight big names as people will go snoring if he fights a nobody.

[TravelMug]

Loma vs Haney? They fought already and Haney won, although it's controversial as others saw that Loma might have won the second stretch of the fight. Not sure though that Haney will fight Loma again, he is no longer interested at a rematch. Loma will be at a disadvantage at 140 lbs as he will be too small. It will be Haney vs the rest of the champion and then Davis when he decided to go up at 140 lbs.

Loma vs Haney at 140 will not happen as Loma will not go up in weight, 136 might be his maximum division. With regards to Haney, he is too big now that going to 136 is impractical, and besides the money fights are in the higher weight division.

Haney vs Teo Lopez will be entertaining to watch I think as both boxers have contrasting styles, counter-puncher vs aggressor, hope they will make this fight happen while they are still in the peak of their careers.

Loma is also fighting Kambosos for the vacant IBF belt at 135 in Australia and I also doubt he will move up to 140. Plus Haney felt offended when Arum was caught saying Loma clearly beat him. The same reason why Haney left Top Rank even if the offer was bigger and better compared to Matchroom. So in the meantime, until the wound heals, I highly doubt Haney will fight a Top Rank fighter next year which means Teo and Loma are out of the picture.

It's hard to think what's next for Haney. WBA and IBF champs are with PBC although Matias isn't that popular so he might be allowed to have a single fight on the other rival networks. But Matias might face Teofimo Lopez next.

As long as the fight is at 140 lbs, I think any fight will make sense for Haney. For me he should forget about Davis for now, it's just so many back and forth between him and Davis and I don't see him going up to 140 lbs for now.

He will be staying in 135 lbs because belts are vacant and maybe going at least 1, wherein he will be confident who will be his opponent.

Like the idea of Loma vs Kambosos, they supposedly to fight 2022 if I'm not mistaken, and we all know what's the reason for the fight being cancelled. But at least if this fight push through it will still be at least for a championship belt.

I've read that DAZN has offered the camp of Davis 20 million USD to fight Daven Haney, will they take the bait?

I think they will reject that offer if the fight happens at 140 and without any rehydration clause as Haney is just to big Davis as the former could go up to 160 lbs after the weigh-in.

Yeah, hard to think what's next for Haney right now but he needs to fight big names as people will go snoring if he fights a nobody.

That is already big offer from DAZN, and I think with Showtime out of the picture as far as network promotions goes, DAN is really taking over and that's why that big offer because they might think that they can easily make that money and more with no competition on network stage. So everything is up for Davis to accept it, although I will agree with your argument that he might be too small for 140 lbs, but he fought once in this division and bet Barrios. But yeah, he might want to insert all this rehydration clause and others to get all the advantage on Haney. But Haney is too intelligent to give in to all the demands of Davis and his camp. So this might be a hard negotiations, but let's see, money can change all of that barriers.

[Kemarit]

Loma vs Haney? They fought already and Haney won, although it's controversial as others saw that Loma might have won the second stretch of the fight. Not sure though that Haney will fight Loma again, he is no longer interested at a rematch. Loma will be at a disadvantage at 140 lbs as he will be too small. It will be Haney vs the rest of the champion and then Davis when he decided to go up at 140 lbs.

Loma vs Haney at 140 will not happen as Loma will not go up in weight, 136 might be his maximum division. With regards to Haney, he is too big now that going to 136 is impractical, and besides the money fights are in the higher weight division.

Yes, I think everyone will agree on that, and even Loma himself if I'm not mistaken as he said that he is too small for 140 lbs and it will be hard for him to campaign on that weight class.

Haney vs Teo Lopez will be entertaining to watch I think as both boxers have contrasting styles, counter-puncher vs aggressor, hope they will make this fight happen while they are still in the peak of their careers.

But it's not going to happen for now as Teo is going to fight Jamaine Ortiz, as he is going up in weight at 140 lbs.

op Rank boss and Hall of Fame promoter Bob Arum told BoxingScene.com in an interview on Monday that the main event will feature Teofimo Lopez Jr. looking to defend his WBO junior welterweight title against Jamaine Ortiz, and the co-main event will feature lightweight upstart Keyshawn Davis taking on former two-division titlist Jose Pedraza.

https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-lopez-jamaine-ortiz-keyshawn-davis-jose-pedraza-headline-super-bowl-week-show-las-vegas-on-feb-8--180118

Either way, if Lopez wins here, for sure he will target all the champions in this division next.

Most likely Top Rank just wanted him to get busy first and have some confident boosting win before going with the likes of Haney, Matias and Romero in the future.

[inthelongrun]

Haney vs Teo Lopez will be entertaining to watch I think as both boxers have contrasting styles, counter-puncher vs aggressor, hope they will make this fight happen while they are still in the peak of their careers.

But it's not going to happen for now as Teo is going to fight Jamaine Ortiz, as he is going up in weight at 140 lbs.

op Rank boss and Hall of Fame promoter Bob Arum told BoxingScene.com in an interview on Monday that the main event will feature Teofimo Lopez Jr. looking to defend his WBO junior welterweight title against Jamaine Ortiz, and the co-main event will feature lightweight upstart Keyshawn Davis taking on former two-division titlist Jose Pedraza.

https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-lopez-jamaine-ortiz-keyshawn-davis-jose-pedraza-headline-super-bowl-week-show-las-vegas-on-feb-8--180118

Either way, if Lopez wins here, for sure he will target all the champions in this division next.

Most likely Top Rank just wanted him to get busy first and have some confident boosting win before going with the likes of Haney, Matias and Romero in the future.

I also heard the rumors but hoped it wouldn't go through. So it's official now that Teofimo fights Jamaine? Still a good fight but of course we want to see unifications. So it seems like the Matias negotiations aren't fruitful or maybe the unification plan is after this fight. Anyway, Teofimo's last fight was like 6 months ago and Matias is pretty sure he needs a month at least to rest and then another 2 to 3 months of training camp. So it's good that Teofimo is getting a fight before gunning for unifications in his next outing.

And it's good we can see Keyshawn Davis stepping up even if he only managed a draw in his last fight.

[btc_angela]

Haney vs Teo Lopez will be entertaining to watch I think as both boxers have contrasting styles, counter-puncher vs aggressor, hope they will make this fight happen while they are still in the peak of their careers.

But it's not going to happen for now as Teo is going to fight Jamaine Ortiz, as he is going up in weight at 140 lbs.

op Rank boss and Hall of Fame promoter Bob Arum told BoxingScene.com in an interview on Monday that the main event will feature Teofimo Lopez Jr. looking to defend his WBO junior welterweight title against Jamaine Ortiz, and the co-main event will feature lightweight upstart Keyshawn Davis taking on former two-division titlist Jose Pedraza.

https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-lopez-jamaine-ortiz-keyshawn-davis-jose-pedraza-headline-super-bowl-week-show-las-vegas-on-feb-8--180118

Either way, if Lopez wins here, for sure he will target all the champions in this division next.

Most likely Top Rank just wanted him to get busy first and have some confident boosting win before going with the likes of Haney, Matias and Romero in the future.

I also heard the rumors but hoped it wouldn't go through. So it's official now that Teofimo fights Jamaine? Still a good fight but of course we want to see unifications. So it seems like the Matias negotiations aren't fruitful or maybe the unification plan is after this fight. Anyway, Teofimo's last fight was like 6 months ago and Matias is pretty sure he needs a month at least to rest and then another 2 to 3 months of training camp. So it's good that Teofimo is getting a fight before gunning for unifications in his next outing.

And it's good we can see Keyshawn Davis stepping up even if he only managed a draw in his last fight.

It's probably Uncle Bob wanted Lopez to get busy and it was a good exposure for Teo Lopez, as they will headline the super bowl week so it's huge. Maybe after this he will fight Matias. Although there are also rumors that the Matias camp ask for $4 million to fight Haney, but Matias and his manager quickly denies this claim.

And with that, as champion, Matias has been in the radar now, and for sure next year there will be some sort of unification fight at 140 lbs as there are a lot of big names in this division, including Keyshawn Davis putting his name in the mix.

[bisdak40]

And with that, as champion, Matias has been in the radar now, and for sure next year there will be some sort of unification fight at 140 lbs as there are a lot of big names in this division, including Keyshawn Davis putting his name in the mix.

As per Haney, negotiation is ongoing for a fight with Ryan Garcia which coincides with what Ryan brags on his social media account. Haney is not keen on a unification fight, he wants a money fight which I think Ryan Garcia will give as the latter is famous online. Though on paper, Garcia will be the huge underdog here but with his newfound defensive strategy I think he can handle and may defeat Haney if those power bombs would land on Haney's body and chin.

[Yamifoud]

And with that, as champion, Matias has been in the radar now, and for sure next year there will be some sort of unification fight at 140 lbs as there are a lot of big names in this division, including Keyshawn Davis putting his name in the mix.

As per Haney, negotiation is ongoing for a fight with Ryan Garcia which coincides with what Ryan brags on his social media account. Haney is not keen on a unification fight, he wants a money fight which I think Ryan Garcia will give as the latter is famous online. Though on paper, Garcia will be the huge underdog here but with his newfound defensive strategy I think he can handle and may defeat Haney if those power bombs would land on Haney's body and chin.

Haney will just destroy the future of Ryan Garcia in boxing. If Ryan will agree on this fight, that means he believe in himself that he can beat Haney which I believe he only has 20% chance of winning, or even less. Of course, we never know the outcome, but I believe it's not right to be aggressive as his value is at stake here, if he losses, his value will drop and the kind of emotional effect that will leave on him, and knowing that he had gone through mental struggle in the past, that might result to ending his career early in boxing.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

And with that, as champion, Matias has been in the radar now, and for sure next year there will be some sort of unification fight at 140 lbs as there are a lot of big names in this division, including Keyshawn Davis putting his name in the mix.

As per Haney, negotiation is ongoing for a fight with Ryan Garcia which coincides with what Ryan brags on his social media account. Haney is not keen on a unification fight, he wants a money fight which I think Ryan Garcia will give as the latter is famous online. Though on paper, Garcia will be the huge underdog here but with his newfound defensive strategy I think he can handle and may defeat Haney if those power bombs would land on Haney's body and chin.

It will be good if Garcia vs Haney happen. But let's see if Dela Hoya will put Garcia right away with Haney. They just had to cherry pick Duarte to make Garcia great in his first fight in this division. I do agree though, money fight will be a fight with Garcia as we all know that already.

Haney has a lot of options, cement his legacy or go for big paycheck.

Teo Lopez is also waiting, that's also a great fight. Or even a Romero, to get his belt and unify.

[inthelongrun]

And with that, as champion, Matias has been in the radar now, and for sure next year there will be some sort of unification fight at 140 lbs as there are a lot of big names in this division, including Keyshawn Davis putting his name in the mix.

As per Haney, negotiation is ongoing for a fight with Ryan Garcia which coincides with what Ryan brags on his social media account. Haney is not keen on a unification fight, he wants a money fight which I think Ryan Garcia will give as the latter is famous online. Though on paper, Garcia will be the huge underdog here but with his newfound defensive strategy I think he can handle and may defeat Haney if those power bombs would land on Haney's body and chin.

Haney will just destroy the future of Ryan Garcia in boxing. If Ryan will agree on this fight, that means he believe in himself that he can beat Haney which I believe he only has 20% chance of winning, or even less. Of course, we never know the outcome, but I believe it's not right to be aggressive as his value is at stake here, if he losses, his value will drop and the kind of emotional effect that will leave on him, and knowing that he had gone through mental struggle in the past, that might result to ending his career early in boxing.

It's just really hard to imagine how Ryan Garcia or the version of his last fight can beat Haney. It will be a complete massacre. Ryan's previous awkward Phelly Shell only worked against a super slow blown-up lightweight but that will be an easy target for a very quick and strong opponent like Haney.

It will be good if Garcia vs Haney happen. But let's see if Dela Hoya will put Garcia right away with Haney. They just had to cherry pick Duarte to make Garcia great in his first fight in this division. I do agree though, money fight will be a fight with Garcia as we all know that already.

Haney has a lot of options, cement his legacy or go for big paycheck.

Teo Lopez is also waiting, that's also a great fight. Or even a Romero, to get his belt and unify.

I am still doubtful about Ryan's willingness to fight Haney. So I will only believe this when it's official. I believe this is the last fight for Ryan under GBP and obviously, he is not going to re-sign. So Oscar and BHop would love to promote a big fight and then seeing Ryan getting destroyed is a win for them as well. If this fight materialized I would be very curious about Ryan's team and who is at the top making advice. It could be Derrick James, his new coach. He or his team is probably paid by either Matchroom or GBP or even by Bill Haney for this suicide fight.

Haney is with Matchroom and most of the big names of the division are at Top Rank and a few at PBC so it will be hard on what's next for him. Prograis was the only other big name at Matchroom. GBP is with DAZN as well so a Ryan Garcia fight is much easier to make. The IBF champ Matias has the least fanbase of all champions so PBC could let him fight on any network. But lineal and WBO champ Teofimo and WBA champion Rolly will be hard to deal with since they are main-event fighters in their networks.

[Yaunfitda]

^^ There could be barriers, but I think if this manager and boxers wanted to get a huge paycheck, they will have to work with each other. Sho is no longer there, so DAZN should make everyone comfortable now as they could be the only network that can broadcast good fight.

And this is why the criticism about boxing in the last 10 years or so that it is dead as the promoters and network affiliations are the ones killing it.

But if they wanted to make money, for sure there are some middle ground that they can do so that we can witnesses good fight that fans wanted, not like exhibition or cherry pick fights.

[bisdak40]

^^ There could be barriers, but I think if this manager and boxers wanted to get a huge paycheck, they will have to work with each other. Sho is no longer there, so DAZN should make everyone comfortable now as they could be the only network that can broadcast good fight.

And this is why the criticism about boxing in the last 10 years or so that it is dead as the promoters and network affiliations are the ones killing it.

But if they wanted to make money, for sure there are some middle ground that they can do so that we can witnesses good fight that fans wanted, not like exhibition or cherry pick fights.

Bottom line, boxing politics sucks. They prevent us from watching boxers fight on their primes vs another championship caliber boxer.

As what i have read and understood, Haney and Ryan Garcia is in the negotiation table per both boxers, hope they were saying the truth. If materializes, Haney vs Garcia could be a blockbuster as needless to say that Garcia has a lot of followers, though winning against Haney is a slim possibility but the money will pour on this fight, that's for sure.

[TravelMug]

^^ There could be barriers, but I think if this manager and boxers wanted to get a huge paycheck, they will have to work with each other. Sho is no longer there, so DAZN should make everyone comfortable now as they could be the only network that can broadcast good fight.

And this is why the criticism about boxing in the last 10 years or so that it is dead as the promoters and network affiliations are the ones killing it.

But if they wanted to make money, for sure there are some middle ground that they can do so that we can witnesses good fight that fans wanted, not like exhibition or cherry pick fights.

Bottom line, boxing politics sucks. They prevent us from watching boxers fight on their primes vs another championship caliber boxer.

As what i have read and understood, Haney and Ryan Garcia is in the negotiation table per both boxers, hope they were saying the truth. If materializes, Haney vs Garcia could be a blockbuster as needless to say that Garcia has a lot of followers, though winning against Haney is a slim possibility but the money will pour on this fight, that's for sure.

Ryan Garcia might not have any belts for now, but he could be one of the cash cow as well, like what numbers him and Davis put this year and it could have been the biggest fight as per money wise in 2023. So I do agree that if Haney and Ryan fight, it could be one of the biggest for next year. But let's just wait for the official announcement as there are lots of thing that can happen. Haney vs Tank has their own public war of words but it seems that it died down already. And then we have Lopez fight in February against Ortiz. One thing is for sure is that this division is getting the publicity now when the best 135 lbs move up to this division, except Tank. Really hard to comment on boxing politics, it really sucks and it deprived us boxing fans from watching prime boxers against each other.

[inthelongrun]

^^ There could be barriers, but I think if this manager and boxers wanted to get a huge paycheck, they will have to work with each other. Sho is no longer there, so DAZN should make everyone comfortable now as they could be the only network that can broadcast good fight.

And this is why the criticism about boxing in the last 10 years or so that it is dead as the promoters and network affiliations are the ones killing it.

But if they wanted to make money, for sure there are some middle ground that they can do so that we can witnesses good fight that fans wanted, not like exhibition or cherry pick fights.

Bottom line, boxing politics sucks. They prevent us from watching boxers fight on their primes vs another championship caliber boxer.

As what i have read and understood, Haney and Ryan Garcia is in the negotiation table per both boxers, hope they were saying the truth. If materializes, Haney vs Garcia could be a blockbuster as needless to say that Garcia has a lot of followers, though winning against Haney is a slim possibility but the money will pour on this fight, that's for sure.

Ryan Garcia might not have any belts for now, but he could be one of the cash cow as well, like what numbers him and Davis put this year and it could have been the biggest fight as per money wise in 2023. So I do agree that if Haney and Ryan fight, it could be one of the biggest for next year. But let's just wait for the official announcement as there are lots of thing that can happen. Haney vs Tank has their own public war of words but it seems that it died down already. And then we have Lopez fight in February against Ortiz. One thing is for sure is that this division is getting the publicity now when the best 135 lbs move up to this division, except Tank. Really hard to comment on boxing politics, it really sucks and it deprived us boxing fans from watching prime boxers against each other.

Showtime is getting out of the sport next year. There were rumors that PBC is heading to DAZN joining Matchroom and GBP. But it didn't happen and PBC signed a partnership deal with Amazon Prime. So together with DAZN and ESPN, there are still 3 giant networks in this sport and it makes negotiations still more difficult especially when stars from different networks are planning to face each other.

Tank stopped responding to Haney's challenge. Tank also said no when Haney's promoter Eddie Hearn tried to reach out. But at least we still have 3 champions at 140 willing to fight each other.