Boxing: Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney (9th of December)

[inthelongrun]

So according to Eddie Hearn, this fight is still alive but the signed October 28 date is off. Eddie is looking for the last week of November or early December as its new date.

So it was just a push, but still good to hear that the fight is still going to happen despite what we heard with Regis.

Even though the fight was postponed and there is no definite date when it can be held it will still take place and the cancellation of the initial schedule was only due to a small problem that occurred.
The Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney fight has become one that all boxing fans have been waiting for and it looks like the two fighters holding the WBC belt will show a pretty fierce fight.
Devin Haney is the most impatient to immediately carry out this fight.

It's just that Devin Haney wanted to exploit Regis Prograis so he acts like he is in a hurry. Haney had been training already and he wanted to catch Prograis to have less training than the usual 2 months camp.

Anyway, this fight is a go. The final date is on December 9 at the Golden State Warriors' Chase Center in San Francisco, California. So at least Eddie Hearn did not follow the Haneys' request of making the fight on an earlier date which put Prograis at a disadvantage. I'm excited and I am looking forward to the champion Prograis landing his powerful punches on Haney. 

The details are already out for the public to know that this fight will be pushed through at a later date instead of what was discussed few weeks before, they made it seem that this is already a done deal so that there are still some room for them to market the fight and gather some hype but the truth is, it's not really that done because Regis said that they are still waiting for Haney's camp to sign the contract.

I wonder why they haven't signed the contract before like what Prograis did. Matchroom and DAZN and not dumb to not make necessary adjustments when needed. The fans are starting to figure out that the Haneys are starting to follow the Mayweather way which is to exploit its opponents, cherry-pick the weakest ones, money first, and try to trash-talk and do some stunts to market their fights. I even doubt Haney will pick to challenge Prograis' belt if he knocked out his last opponent. Not to mention that the lineal champion in this division is Teofimo Lopez having won the WBO belt from former undisputed champion Josh Taylor. And Bob Arum tried to push hard for Haney to face Teofimo but the former want the safest route. Also, Teofimo Lopez is obviously the biggest money maker of all the 4 champions in this division.

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[freedomgo]

So according to Eddie Hearn, this fight is still alive but the signed October 28 date is off. Eddie is looking for the last week of November or early December as its new date.

So it was just a push, but still good to hear that the fight is still going to happen despite what we heard with Regis.

Even though the fight was postponed and there is no definite date when it can be held it will still take place and the cancellation of the initial schedule was only due to a small problem that occurred.
The Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney fight has become one that all boxing fans have been waiting for and it looks like the two fighters holding the WBC belt will show a pretty fierce fight.
Devin Haney is the most impatient to immediately carry out this fight.

It's just that Devin Haney wanted to exploit Regis Prograis so he acts like he is in a hurry. Haney had been training already and he wanted to catch Prograis to have less training than the usual 2 months camp.

Anyway, this fight is a go. The final date is on December 9 at the Golden State Warriors' Chase Center in San Francisco, California. So at least Eddie Hearn did not follow the Haneys' request of making the fight on an earlier date which put Prograis at a disadvantage. I'm excited and I am looking forward to the champion Prograis landing his powerful punches on Haney. 

The details are already out for the public to know that this fight will be pushed through at a later date instead of what was discussed few weeks before, they made it seem that this is already a done deal so that there are still some room for them to market the fight and gather some hype but the truth is, it's not really that done because Regis said that they are still waiting for Haney's camp to sign the contract.

I wonder why they haven't signed the contract before like what Prograis did. Matchroom and DAZN and not dumb to not make necessary adjustments when needed. The fans are starting to figure out that the Haneys are starting to follow the Mayweather way which is to exploit its opponents, cherry-pick the weakest ones, money first, and try to trash-talk and do some stunts to market their fights. I even doubt Haney will pick to challenge Prograis' belt if he knocked out his last opponent. Not to mention that the lineal champion in this division is Teofimo Lopez having won the WBO belt from former undisputed champion Josh Taylor. And Bob Arum tried to push hard for Haney to face Teofimo but the former want the safest route. Also, Teofimo Lopez is obviously the biggest money maker of all the 4 champions in this division.

That is the downside of this business, they tend to forget that it's about making the people entertain while gaining lots of profits from it. But in todays day and age, boxers are behaving more like a star instead of a warrior because they are prioritizing their business first instead of giving the people what they want by having strong boxers facing another strong boxer.

Haney is good and people believed in him for that because he is unlike any other boxers out there but it all started when he faced Loma, I bet he underestimated the latter because he thought that Loma was already over in his time but that was not what happened, after that, he became scared and opted to go for Regis just to avoid facing Shakur. He might got his way now but the challenge is that Regis is not easy to crack, that is why they are making some way right now to give a disadvantage towards the champion.

[btc_angela]

Last time I read, this fight is still a go, but the date has change and it's going to be around December 9. So that is a big push already from the original date of October, but just like the rest of you guys, the question is, is this a PPV worthy for us boxing fans? Or at least they should have streamed this for free?

I mean we have been discussing that they might be losing some money already here and so I'm thinking that it might be good if they will just go for free and so they won't be disappointed with the PPV numbers that will come later.

[Yaunfitda]

^ I'm not really sure if this is a good idea to stream the fight for free, it's going to be a double black eye for Eddie Hearn if he do that. He might be paying Haney with big money already so with that, I think he has lost some money already as it's hard to promote Haney because we all know that he doesn't have that charisma to the boxing fans maybe because of his styles.

But if you look at his records, still very young and undefeated and undisputed at 135 lbs, so that is a big accomplished already. But for us boxing fans, we want some real action in the ring and doesn't like boxers who doesn't take risk, just saying.

[Finestream]

^ I'm not really sure if this is a good idea to stream the fight for free, it's going to be a double black eye for Eddie Hearn if he do that. He might be paying Haney with big money already so with that, I think he has lost some money already as it's hard to promote Haney because we all know that he doesn't have that charisma to the boxing fans maybe because of his styles.

But if you look at his records, still very young and undefeated and undisputed at 135 lbs, so that is a big accomplished already. But for us boxing fans, we want some real action in the ring and doesn't like boxers who doesn't take risk, just saying.

I don't think that it is his style though, I mean, look at Shakur they are about the same style but the latter doesn't have any problems when it comes with selling a fight. Their only difference is that Haney being a champion, is a boring one and who don't even know how to market a fight successfully so that he can grab more cash money after the fight and not just his promoter alone. But no, he doesn't care about that because he got no passion about marketing a fight at all and if his last fight wasn't against Loma, I highly doubt that they can afford to gain a decent income.

[Russlenat]

^ I'm not really sure if this is a good idea to stream the fight for free, it's going to be a double black eye for Eddie Hearn if he do that. He might be paying Haney with big money already so with that, I think he has lost some money already as it's hard to promote Haney because we all know that he doesn't have that charisma to the boxing fans maybe because of his styles.

But if you look at his records, still very young and undefeated and undisputed at 135 lbs, so that is a big accomplished already. But for us boxing fans, we want some real action in the ring and doesn't like boxers who doesn't take risk, just saying.

I don't think that it is his style though, I mean, look at Shakur they are about the same style but the latter doesn't have any problems when it comes with selling a fight. Their only difference is that Haney being a champion, is a boring one and who don't even know how to market a fight successfully so that he can grab more cash money after the fight and not just his promoter alone. But no, he doesn't care about that because he got no passion about marketing a fight at all and if his last fight wasn't against Loma, I highly doubt that they can afford to gain a decent income.

Haney was just fortunate because the time were in favor of him that is why he managed to get those belts in a much easier way, some could argue that but I still think that he got all those four easily and without starting from scratch just to unify all those things on his possession. I mean, he waited for the guys to clash first before he makes his entrance so it'll be hitting two birds in just one stone.

But this time, he doesn't think anymore that his time is still on his side that is why he is making a move towards super-light and fight a champion, Regis. Although, there are still problems because it seems to me that they are still not on the same page that is why the contract is still hanging without any signature.

[btc_angela]

^ I'm not really sure if this is a good idea to stream the fight for free, it's going to be a double black eye for Eddie Hearn if he do that. He might be paying Haney with big money already so with that, I think he has lost some money already as it's hard to promote Haney because we all know that he doesn't have that charisma to the boxing fans maybe because of his styles.

But if you look at his records, still very young and undefeated and undisputed at 135 lbs, so that is a big accomplished already. But for us boxing fans, we want some real action in the ring and doesn't like boxers who doesn't take risk, just saying.

I don't think that it is his style though, I mean, look at Shakur they are about the same style but the latter doesn't have any problems when it comes with selling a fight. Their only difference is that Haney being a champion, is a boring one and who don't even know how to market a fight successfully so that he can grab more cash money after the fight and not just his promoter alone. But no, he doesn't care about that because he got no passion about marketing a fight at all and if his last fight wasn't against Loma, I highly doubt that they can afford to gain a decent income.

Haney was just fortunate because the time were in favor of him that is why he managed to get those belts in a much easier way, some could argue that but I still think that he got all those four easily and without starting from scratch just to unify all those things on his possession. I mean, he waited for the guys to clash first before he makes his entrance so it'll be hitting two birds in just one stone.

But this time, he doesn't think anymore that his time is still on his side that is why he is making a move towards super-light and fight a champion, Regis. Although, there are still problems because it seems to me that they are still not on the same page that is why the contract is still hanging without any signature.

And even the boxing community is still divided if he really win against Loma to unify the belts. There are arguments that he lost the second half of the fight as Loma started to get into his groove and easily winning rounds. But he won already and he doesn't want to give Loma his rematch, although there could be no rematch clause that's why he is not forced to it.

But he decided to move up in weight class, avoid another great boxer in Shakur at 135 lbs. But still though, it will not be an easy fight against a power puncher in Regis here, so there's still a big risk for the Haney's here ducking Stevenson at moving up directly to face the champion in Prograis.

[Distinctin]

^ I'm not really sure if this is a good idea to stream the fight for free, it's going to be a double black eye for Eddie Hearn if he do that. He might be paying Haney with big money already so with that, I think he has lost some money already as it's hard to promote Haney because we all know that he doesn't have that charisma to the boxing fans maybe because of his styles.

But if you look at his records, still very young and undefeated and undisputed at 135 lbs, so that is a big accomplished already. But for us boxing fans, we want some real action in the ring and doesn't like boxers who doesn't take risk, just saying.

I don't think that it is his style though, I mean, look at Shakur they are about the same style but the latter doesn't have any problems when it comes with selling a fight. Their only difference is that Haney being a champion, is a boring one and who don't even know how to market a fight successfully so that he can grab more cash money after the fight and not just his promoter alone. But no, he doesn't care about that because he got no passion about marketing a fight at all and if his last fight wasn't against Loma, I highly doubt that they can afford to gain a decent income.

Haney was just fortunate because the time were in favor of him that is why he managed to get those belts in a much easier way, some could argue that but I still think that he got all those four easily and without starting from scratch just to unify all those things on his possession. I mean, he waited for the guys to clash first before he makes his entrance so it'll be hitting two birds in just one stone.

But this time, he doesn't think anymore that his time is still on his side that is why he is making a move towards super-light and fight a champion, Regis. Although, there are still problems because it seems to me that they are still not on the same page that is why the contract is still hanging without any signature.

And even the boxing community is still divided if he really win against Loma to unify the belts. There are arguments that he lost the second half of the fight as Loma started to get into his groove and easily winning rounds. But he won already and he doesn't want to give Loma his rematch, although there could be no rematch clause that's why he is not forced to it.

There are indeed fans who believed he lost, much like some who think Mayweather wasn't undefeated because he lost to Castillo. The judges' decision was final, and if Loma wanted to secure a win, he should have dominated the fight. However, when we compare Loma to Haney, there's no question that Loma has a large fan base due to his boxing style. He isn't as boring as Haney.

But he decided to move up in weight class, avoid another great boxer in Shakur at 135 lbs. But still though, it will not be an easy fight against a power puncher in Regis here, so there's still a big risk for the Haney's here ducking Stevenson at moving up directly to face the champion in Prograis.

Moving up and facing the champion is harder than staying and facing the challenger, as he has to prove himself all over again that he can carry his power. It's a gamble on his part, so let's see if he can continue dominating as he did in the division he left.

[Kemarit]

^ I don't think that Haney has power though, he hasn't proved anything, when he got the belts from Kambosos and Loma it's all decision.
But if we are talking about Regis, yeah, I do believed and we know that he has the power at 140 lbs as he face a lot of good opposition here and has 82% knockout ratio. After his lost to Josh Taylor, he had 4 fight winning streak either by KO/TKO.
So I do agree that this is going to be very hard for Haney, the only way I see him winning his by using his technical skills again and try to outsmart Regis and obviously, not to get caught by that power.

[inthelongrun]

Last time I read, this fight is still a go, but the date has change and it's going to be around December 9. So that is a big push already from the original date of October, but just like the rest of you guys, the question is, is this a PPV worthy for us boxing fans? Or at least they should have streamed this for free?

I mean we have been discussing that they might be losing some money already here and so I'm thinking that it might be good if they will just go for free and so they won't be disappointed with the PPV numbers that will come later.

At least this fight is still happening. I can sense that Devin Haney won't fight Shakur Stevenson anyway even if this fight fails to materialize. And I don't think Haney is a PPV guy. He hugs a lot and he doesn't care about lack of action for as long as he wins. I would rather pay to see Regis Prograis than Haney although the former is not that popular among boxing casuals.

^ I don't think that Haney has power though, he hasn't proved anything, when he got the belts from Kambosos and Loma it's all decision.
But if we are talking about Regis, yeah, I do believed and we know that he has the power at 140 lbs as he face a lot of good opposition here and has 82% knockout ratio. After his lost to Josh Taylor, he had 4 fight winning streak either by KO/TKO.
So I do agree that this is going to be very hard for Haney, the only way I see him winning his by using his technical skills again and try to outsmart Regis and obviously, not to get caught by that power.

We're also curious if Regis Prograis just had an off-night during his last fight and if he is already past his prime. Devin Haney picked him over lineal champion Teofimo Lopez for a reason. But still, I am hoping that Regis will be back to his usual self and land those big bombs on Haney.

[Kemarit]

^ I don't think that Haney has power though, he hasn't proved anything, when he got the belts from Kambosos and Loma it's all decision.
But if we are talking about Regis, yeah, I do believed and we know that he has the power at 140 lbs as he face a lot of good opposition here and has 82% knockout ratio. After his lost to Josh Taylor, he had 4 fight winning streak either by KO/TKO.
So I do agree that this is going to be very hard for Haney, the only way I see him winning his by using his technical skills again and try to outsmart Regis and obviously, not to get caught by that power.

We're also curious if Regis Prograis just had an off-night during his last fight and if he is already past his prime. Devin Haney picked him over lineal champion Teofimo Lopez for a reason. But still, I am hoping that Regis will be back to his usual self and land those big bombs on Haney.

Yes, I do agree, most likely, as least from what I see, he might be just an off night for Regis against Zorilla. But we should give credit to Zorilla, although he goes down in round 3, but was able to go to distance.
And also maybe the clash of style itself, Zorilla adjusted and just give everything he had that's why at least one of the judges score for him in a close and narrow 114-113. But the 2 judges have it for Regis to win the WBC belt.
So I guess Regis can still the pull the trigger and give Haney a good fight.

[freedomgo]

^ I don't think that Haney has power though, he hasn't proved anything, when he got the belts from Kambosos and Loma it's all decision.
But if we are talking about Regis, yeah, I do believed and we know that he has the power at 140 lbs as he face a lot of good opposition here and has 82% knockout ratio. After his lost to Josh Taylor, he had 4 fight winning streak either by KO/TKO.
So I do agree that this is going to be very hard for Haney, the only way I see him winning his by using his technical skills again and try to outsmart Regis and obviously, not to get caught by that power.

We're also curious if Regis Prograis just had an off-night during his last fight and if he is already past his prime. Devin Haney picked him over lineal champion Teofimo Lopez for a reason. But still, I am hoping that Regis will be back to his usual self and land those big bombs on Haney.

Yes, I do agree, most likely, as least from what I see, he might be just an off night for Regis against Zorilla. But we should give credit to Zorilla, although he goes down in round 3, but was able to go to distance.
And also maybe the clash of style itself, Zorilla adjusted and just give everything he had that's why at least one of the judges score for him in a close and narrow 114-113. But the 2 judges have it for Regis to win the WBC belt.
So I guess Regis can still the pull the trigger and give Haney a good fight.

Let's not forget that they are still human beings like us who will make some mistakes along the road, I believe that the true strong boxers have their own share of losses and it will be their motivation to bounce back and fight like there's nothing to lose anymore. Sure those who were undefeated until they retire are strong but for me though, I'm not really impressed because they chose a much safer way.

This time, we will see if Haney will make his mistake because he chose Regis particularly as he believed that the latter is now weaker compared to Lopez. We will know it soon but I got a feeling that this will be Haney's first defeat.

[OgNasty]

I have no idea what the outcome of this fight will be and to be completely honest I don’t even know who Regis Prograis is, but I have heard Devin Haney in the news for Bradley Martin (a podcaster) saying he could kick Devin’s ass in a street fight. Whatever happens with this fight, I hope it leads to a match between Bradley & Devin.

[inthelongrun]

^ I don't think that Haney has power though, he hasn't proved anything, when he got the belts from Kambosos and Loma it's all decision.
But if we are talking about Regis, yeah, I do believed and we know that he has the power at 140 lbs as he face a lot of good opposition here and has 82% knockout ratio. After his lost to Josh Taylor, he had 4 fight winning streak either by KO/TKO.
So I do agree that this is going to be very hard for Haney, the only way I see him winning his by using his technical skills again and try to outsmart Regis and obviously, not to get caught by that power.

We're also curious if Regis Prograis just had an off-night during his last fight and if he is already past his prime. Devin Haney picked him over lineal champion Teofimo Lopez for a reason. But still, I am hoping that Regis will be back to his usual self and land those big bombs on Haney.

Yes, I do agree, most likely, as least from what I see, he might be just an off night for Regis against Zorilla. But we should give credit to Zorilla, although he goes down in round 3, but was able to go to distance.
And also maybe the clash of style itself, Zorilla adjusted and just give everything he had that's why at least one of the judges score for him in a close and narrow 114-113. But the 2 judges have it for Regis to win the WBC belt.
So I guess Regis can still the pull the trigger and give Haney a good fight.

Let's not forget that they are still human beings like us who will make some mistakes along the road, I believe that the true strong boxers have their own share of losses and it will be their motivation to bounce back and fight like there's nothing to lose anymore. Sure those who were undefeated until they retire are strong but for me though, I'm not really impressed because they chose a much safer way.

This time, we will see if Haney will make his mistake because he chose Regis particularly as he believed that the latter is now weaker compared to Lopez. We will know it soon but I got a feeling that this will be Haney's first defeat.

The venue for this fight is in San Franciso, California which Devin Haney came from. The crowd is probably pro-Haney but hopefully, it won't be the case and they will boo him if he keeps on hugging and throwing illegal punches, especially during clinches.

In case Haney wins this fight. I really doubt the kid stays undefeated for long even if he cherry-picks a lot. I felt like his power is not that dangerous so more and more fighters won't be scared to risk moving forward to land their power shots.

[btc_angela]

I have no idea what the outcome of this fight will be and to be completely honest I don’t even know who Regis Prograis is, but I have heard Devin Haney in the news for Bradley Martin (a podcaster) saying he could kick Devin’s ass in a street fight. Whatever happens with this fight, I hope it leads to a match between Bradley & Devin.

And that is the thing with Regis and I think most of the 140 lbs fighters, they are not well known by casual fans (sorry Og). But Regis did give Josh Taylor a good fight, and if you are not well aware of, Josh was the former 140 lbs unified belt holder, meaning he holds the 4 major belts (WBC/WBO/WBA/IBF) in modern era.

That's why this fight is going to be interesting and intriguing how Haney will handle the power of Regis, or if he can outbox a power puncher in full 12 rounds because sooner or later he will hit at least one good shot at Haney and we will see how he will react to it.

[Questat]

That's why this fight is going to be interesting and intriguing how Haney will handle the power of Regis, or if he can outbox a power puncher in full 12 rounds because sooner or later he will hit at least one good shot at Haney and we will see how he will react to it.

Haney should be able to handle that power by evading those punches. With his defensive style and quickness, he can frustrate Regis and disrupt his concentration during the fight. That's why it's understandable that even though Regis is the champion, sportsbooks still rate Haney as the favorite to win.

[btc_angela]

That's why this fight is going to be interesting and intriguing how Haney will handle the power of Regis, or if he can outbox a power puncher in full 12 rounds because sooner or later he will hit at least one good shot at Haney and we will see how he will react to it.

Haney should be able to handle that power by evading those punches. With his defensive style and quickness, he can frustrate Regis and disrupt his concentration during the fight. That's why it's understandable that even though Regis is the champion, sportsbooks still rate Haney as the favorite to win.

We really don't know that yet, if he can handle such power, just look at his fight against Linares, he wobbled after he got tagged,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpEmi1b6vZQ

So just imagine if a power puncher like Prograis can hit that maybe around 80%, for sure it might take a toll on Haney. No doubt that he is good in his defense, but he is not Floyd though, he can still be tag and feel the power of his opponents. It's just a matter before he can be touch by someone with a power and goes down and we will see if he can recover or not. So in this fight still a risk on Haney to keep his records, just saying.

[inthelongrun]

That's why this fight is going to be interesting and intriguing how Haney will handle the power of Regis, or if he can outbox a power puncher in full 12 rounds because sooner or later he will hit at least one good shot at Haney and we will see how he will react to it.

Haney should be able to handle that power by evading those punches. With his defensive style and quickness, he can frustrate Regis and disrupt his concentration during the fight. That's why it's understandable that even though Regis is the champion, sportsbooks still rate Haney as the favorite to win.

We really don't know that yet, if he can handle such power, just look at his fight against Linares, he wobbled after he got tagged,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpEmi1b6vZQ

So just imagine if a power puncher like Prograis can hit that maybe around 80%, for sure it might take a toll on Haney. No doubt that he is good in his defense, but he is not Floyd though, he can still be tag and feel the power of his opponents. It's just a matter before he can be touch by someone with a power and goes down and we will see if he can recover or not. So in this fight still a risk on Haney to keep his records, just saying.

I also believe that Haney cannot handle getting hit by a powerful puncher like Prograis. He got wobbled by an old Linares and he looked hurt against Lomachencko as well. And he is also moving up in weight which means he is also fighting a bigger guy whom I believe will be stronger than him.

But maybe Haney learned a lot from his past experiences and is becoming better with his defense. While Prograis had a bad performance in his last fight some believe that he might be past his prime already and he is also in his mid-30s.

[freedomgo]

I also believe that Haney cannot handle getting hit by a powerful puncher like Prograis. He got wobbled by an old Linares and he looked hurt against Lomachencko as well. And he is also moving up in weight which means he is also fighting a bigger guy whom I believe will be stronger than him.

But maybe Haney learned a lot from his past experiences and is becoming better with his defense. While Prograis had a bad performance in his last fight some believe that he might be past his prime already and he is also in his mid-30s.

The question is, will Prograis be able to land punches on Haney? I mean, we know that Haney has mastered his defensive skills in boxing and has improved as he identified weaknesses in his previous fights. So, many still believe that Haney would win, despite being the challenger. While Prograis is known as a KO artist, Haney has faced KO artists in the past and has successfully handed them defeats.

[Kemarit]

I also believe that Haney cannot handle getting hit by a powerful puncher like Prograis. He got wobbled by an old Linares and he looked hurt against Lomachencko as well. And he is also moving up in weight which means he is also fighting a bigger guy whom I believe will be stronger than him.

But maybe Haney learned a lot from his past experiences and is becoming better with his defense. While Prograis had a bad performance in his last fight some believe that he might be past his prime already and he is also in his mid-30s.

The question is, will Prograis be able to land punches on Haney? I mean, we know that Haney has mastered his defensive skills in boxing and has improved as he identified weaknesses in his previous fights. So, many still believe that Haney would win, despite being the challenger. While Prograis is known as a KO artist, Haney has faced KO artists in the past and has successfully handed them defeats.

Yes, we will have to see that, I think Regis will really go out early and test the chin of Haney from round 1 and see if it can hold or not.
And we all know that a power puncher like him will have to land at least one good punch.
Haney is very defensive, but we can see that he sometimes slip as well. Even in the Kambosos fight, he got tag a couple.
So it will be interesting on how Haney will deal the power if he tasted it, or will just play pure defense and win on the judges hands.