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November 28, 2023, 02:31:42 AM |
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I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.
Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up. Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision. We all know that Haney falls into the category of kinda boring boxers—there aren't many, but they're all unbeaten. Personally, I believe that boxing is as much about putting on a show as it is about competing. I mean, a boxer would get more love if they could both win the match and keep the crowd entertained simultaneously. But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.
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November 28, 2023, 03:11:17 AM |
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But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.
LOL, yeah, it's a bit sad but true. He's got that Mayweather style in him. It would be a amazing to witness if someone could really give him a challenging fight. Fingers crossed that Prograis might be the one to shake things up. I'm betting Prograis and his team are cooking up some strategies to counter Haney's style and come out on top. With the fight just a few weeks away, time's flying! I hope they've cranked up the marketing strat to make this showdown a success, both at the venue and on PPV so they'll enjoy that sweet revenue, right?
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November 28, 2023, 03:22:42 AM |
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But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.
LOL, yeah, it's a bit sad but true. He's got that Mayweather style in him. It would be a amazing to witness if someone could really give him a challenging fight. Fingers crossed that Prograis might be the one to shake things up. I'm betting Prograis and his team are cooking up some strategies to counter Haney's style and come out on top. With the fight just a few weeks away, time's flying! I hope they've cranked up the marketing strat to make this showdown a success, both at the venue and on PPV so they'll enjoy that sweet revenue, right? His fight with Linares was actually one of his entertaining fights where he was forced to fight toe to toe. Almost beaten by that veteran but most of it is initiated by Linares. It's when you can find out that he really can open up to risk his chin in order for him to have a chance to counter. But this is when he finds out Linares isn't as fast as he was in his prime days but to sum it up there is a good exchange in that fight. So far nothing else even if you watch his old fights.
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November 28, 2023, 04:37:56 AM |
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Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up.
Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision.
After watching Shakur Stevenson's performance earlier this month I am glad those two are not facing each other. We were spared from what surely would have been a boring chess match. Both, Shakur and Haney, act like tough guys on social media but they turn into pussy cats when they are inside the ring. Over the weekend we saw that technical fighters like Demetrius Andrade can be beaten with aggression. It can be frustrating for an opponent when they are missing punches but it is necessary to remain calm and continue applying pressure.
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November 28, 2023, 01:19:42 PM |
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Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up.
Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision.
After watching Shakur Stevenson's performance earlier this month I am glad those two are not facing each other. We were spared from what surely would have been a boring chess match. Both, Shakur and Haney, act like tough guys on social media but they turn into pussy cats when they are inside the ring. Over the weekend we saw that technical fighters like Demetrius Andrade can be beaten with aggression. It can be frustrating for an opponent when they are missing punches but it is necessary to remain calm and continue applying pressure. And there will be boos from the fans after that snoozer fight, both defensive fighter, each one of them doesn't want to engage. Just surprised though has Shakur did against Edwin De Los Santos in their fight. Not sure what he is, maybe he felt the power and so he just decided to go on a bicycle. Regis though doesn't believed that Haney is what we call defensive fighter. So that's good though, both of them are trying to negate each other's strength so hopefully it will not be a chess match as Regis look for that knockout.
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November 28, 2023, 01:26:28 PM |
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I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.
Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up. Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision. We all know that Haney falls into the category of kinda boring boxers—there aren't many, but they're all unbeaten. Personally, I believe that boxing is as much about putting on a show as it is about competing. I mean, a boxer would get more love if they could both win the match and keep the crowd entertained simultaneously. But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights. Right now though, one good example that wanted to engage and still got that W is Davis. But he is not a real champion and he should step up his level of competition but it's seems his camp doesn't want to do that. But there are also boxers that is pure on defense like Haney and majority of boxing fans, doesn't want that kind of show. We wanted old school fighters, like Mike Tyson or even the legendary Manny Pacquiao. Not afraid to lose and doesn't have that defense mentality. His best defense is his offense.
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November 29, 2023, 07:02:06 AM |
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But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.
LOL, yeah, it's a bit sad but true. He's got that Mayweather style in him. It would be a amazing to witness if someone could really give him a challenging fight. Fingers crossed that Prograis might be the one to shake things up. I'm betting Prograis and his team are cooking up some strategies to counter Haney's style and come out on top. With the fight just a few weeks away, time's flying! I hope they've cranked up the marketing strat to make this showdown a success, both at the venue and on PPV so they'll enjoy that sweet revenue, right? His fight with Linares was actually one of his entertaining fights where he was forced to fight toe to toe. Almost beaten by that veteran but most of it is initiated by Linares. It's when you can find out that he really can open up to risk his chin in order for him to have a chance to counter. But this is when he finds out Linares isn't as fast as he was in his prime days but to sum it up there is a good exchange in that fight. So far nothing else even if you watch his old fights. I remember Haney hugged Linares more than you can imagine in a boxing fight. Haney was somehow forced to engage because Linares is a quick type of fighter. Linares would've been quicker but he was already past his prime during their fight. This time though, Haney is facing a slower fighter in Prograis. What Prograis needs is proper timing. Prograis should also be the aggressor in this fight because Haney can run all night and throw jabs and quick combinations enough to win a decision. Prograis also needs to be the stronger fighter so he can never allow Haney to easily hug him. Haney is also a dirty fighter who throws punches while hugging so Prograis should be the first to initiate a dirty fight every time he gets hugged.
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November 29, 2023, 09:45:18 AM |
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But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.
LOL, yeah, it's a bit sad but true. He's got that Mayweather style in him. It would be a amazing to witness if someone could really give him a challenging fight. Fingers crossed that Prograis might be the one to shake things up. I'm betting Prograis and his team are cooking up some strategies to counter Haney's style and come out on top. With the fight just a few weeks away, time's flying! I hope they've cranked up the marketing strat to make this showdown a success, both at the venue and on PPV so they'll enjoy that sweet revenue, right? His fight with Linares was actually one of his entertaining fights where he was forced to fight toe to toe. Almost beaten by that veteran but most of it is initiated by Linares. It's when you can find out that he really can open up to risk his chin in order for him to have a chance to counter. But this is when he finds out Linares isn't as fast as he was in his prime days but to sum it up there is a good exchange in that fight. So far nothing else even if you watch his old fights. I remember Haney hugged Linares more than you can imagine in a boxing fight. Haney was somehow forced to engage because Linares is a quick type of fighter. Linares would've been quicker but he was already past his prime during their fight. Yes, I remember that fight, Linares was already past his prime that time, but we was able to hit Haney and put him in queer street, ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Haney try to engage but Linares is quicker, but doesn't have that power though to really put Haney into sleep. So in order for Prograis to win and I think he won't win in the judges scorecard, he should really engage Haney and not make him comfortable in the fight. Haney was comfortable against Kambosos but against Loma, which I think for me Haney lost that fight, mid to late rounds it was Loma who is taking the fight. Prograis has a proverbial punchers chance against Haney, if he hits him square in the chin, Haney will feel that power.
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November 29, 2023, 12:00:42 PM |
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We all know that Haney falls into the category of kinda boring boxers—there aren't many, but they're all unbeaten. Personally, I believe that boxing is as much about putting on a show as it is about competing. I mean, a boxer would get more love if they could both win the match and keep the crowd entertained simultaneously. But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.
Until he fights someone who has some high chance to beat him and beat that guy easily, the fans will gonna recognize his skill and he won't be like Andriene Broner who lost easily when he finally fought someone who is not afraid to take his punches and make him realized he is nothing but a rising star, not a star yet. If he can only prove his greatness and fight anybody like the old-time boxers does, he will be instantly famous even though his fighting style is uninteresting but we all know that they are more careful nowadays compared to old boxers who keep grinding on their rivals.
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November 29, 2023, 01:08:02 PM |
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We all know that Haney falls into the category of kinda boring boxers—there aren't many, but they're all unbeaten. Personally, I believe that boxing is as much about putting on a show as it is about competing. I mean, a boxer would get more love if they could both win the match and keep the crowd entertained simultaneously. But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.
Until he fights someone who has some high chance to beat him and beat that guy easily, the fans will gonna recognize his skill and he won't be like Andriene Broner who lost easily when he finally fought someone who is not afraid to take his punches and make him realized he is nothing but a rising star, not a star yet. If he can only prove his greatness and fight anybody like the old-time boxers does, he will be instantly famous even though his fighting style is uninteresting but we all know that they are more careful nowadays compared to old boxers who keep grinding on their rivals. They know their limitations as a boxer and they are just humans too, so probably they are just playing their game to hit but not to get hit. Unfortunately with this too careful strategy , it consistently result to a boring fight and that although he is undefeated but fans does not talk about him a lot because it's pretty obvious that fans usually talk about a boxer that entertaining to watch and that he's winning as well. Take Canelo for example, this champ isn't undefeated anymore, but I'm sure he is more popular than Haney, or other boring boxers who are champ&undefeated.
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November 30, 2023, 01:45:11 AM |
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I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.
Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up. Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision. I share your opinion that Haney isn't an exciting fighter, if that's even a word that describes him in the ring. I love boxers who are real fighters. I love watching fights inside the ring. I don't discredit Haney though. That's his style and strategy. He's part of that group of boxers which include Mayweather whose only goal is to win. If it takes constant running, clinching, dodging to do that, they don't mind. There are boxers though who punish their opponents, go for the knock out if possible, and even apologize if the fight is boring. These are the kinds of boxers that I admire. Haney isn't that kind.
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I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.
Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up. Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision. I share your opinion that Haney isn't an exciting fighter, if that's even a word that describes him in the ring. I love boxers who are real fighters. I love watching fights inside the ring. I don't discredit Haney though. That's his style and strategy. He's part of that group of boxers which include Mayweather whose only goal is to win. If it takes constant running, clinching, dodging to do that, they don't mind. There are boxers though who punish their opponents, go for the knock out if possible, and even apologize if the fight is boring. These are the kinds of boxers that I admire. Haney isn't that kind. Yes, his style doesn't suit most of the boxing fans here, but it is effective for him so we should respect that. And he is the undisputed champion at 140 lbs and lineal I believed, so again, his very style did bring him to become one of the best for this division and I don't think he will change it, that's how his father build him. And with this fight, Regis has the advantage in power and Haney is going to be tested how good his defense it against this kind of fighters. Regis in his part doesn't recognized this so called defensive specialist so we will see what style is going to win here.
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Meanwhile, Devin Haney planned on vacating all his 135 belts after his fight with Prograis. The young kid shared his plan of making his own legacy while he was still young. He wants to become a 3-division champion.
So if he beats Prograis, he may stay short unless there are big money fights to make. Otherwise, a move to 147 is expected. I'm curious though, what if he loses to Prograis? He's having a hard time making 135 but he can make bigger money with his 3 belts rather than build his resume at 140 for another title fight opportunity. And maybe Tank Davis gains confidence and is willing to fight Haney if he loses to Prograis.
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November 30, 2023, 08:31:40 AM |
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Meanwhile, Devin Haney planned on vacating all his 135 belts after his fight with Prograis. The young kid shared his plan of making his own legacy while he was still young. He wants to become a 3-division champion.
So it all depends on that results of his fight with Prograis. Although if I'm not mistaken, I've seen reports that he is willing to go back to 135 lbs, win or lose in this division to depend his belt. So there's a lot of things from his kid, unified at 135 lbs, cemented already his legacy on that division. Maybe his next plan is for the 140 lbs. But who knows, if there is money to be made at 135 lbs against Tank Davis or even Shakur Stevenson, he might go down. But yes, let's see December 9th, if he gets pass Regis Prograis, the door will still be open for him at either division.
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Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up.
Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision.
After watching Shakur Stevenson's performance earlier this month I am glad those two are not facing each other. We were spared from what surely would have been a boring chess match. Both, Shakur and Haney, act like tough guys on social media but they turn into pussy cats when they are inside the ring. Over the weekend we saw that technical fighters like Demetrius Andrade can be beaten with aggression. It can be frustrating for an opponent when they are missing punches but it is necessary to remain calm and continue applying pressure. And there will be boos from the fans after that snoozer fight, both defensive fighter, each one of them doesn't want to engage. Just surprised though has Shakur did against Edwin De Los Santos in their fight. Not sure what he is, maybe he felt the power and so he just decided to go on a bicycle. Regis though doesn't believed that Haney is what we call defensive fighter. So that's good though, both of them are trying to negate each other's strength so hopefully it will not be a chess match as Regis look for that knockout. This is very interesting, obviously I know that Hanney's style is very defensive, the truth is I don't know how he does it, because for my style I think and it may be more tiring, but it helps save energy, but I know that mentally a defensive style It can't make our goal weaken more, because the more attacks and we receive those combinations, the harder it is, while the attacker drains his adrenaline, and it could be that if he connects a good blow it can make anyone hesitate, I don't know what it is. Better if an attack, that is attack style, or a defensive style of boxing, for me in boxing there must be balance, there must be good defense and good attack, which is for me what is meant to be achieved, but also boxers who seek to make knockouts, it is notable that they seek to make the knockout quickly and the amount of energy they expend is impressive, and I don't know, but when there is a greater effort, it is difficult to maintain the same oxygen within the body. That's why the person or boxer who is defensive absorbs all those attacks, but the bad thing is that when he is receiving them, time passes very slowly for him and very fast and violent for the boxer who attacks where most of the critical effort and decnacio Only the attacking boxer carries it and everything that the other boxer absorbs because it is not just anything, you have to be very tough and with a lot of willpower to look for the best counterattack blow, then basically if he is a defensive boxer but who runs in the ring, and something that I don't like, because it becomes the typical fight that Mayweather won against the Filipino legend, and also, I don't like that type of fight because if they go to the purely technical, it is something that many of us find boring and it is not, I would not want it to reach that level where the fight Stabilizes and becomes very flat , of course in my Personal opinion, since this sport is beautiful.
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Meanwhile, Devin Haney planned on vacating all his 135 belts after his fight with Prograis. The young kid shared his plan of making his own legacy while he was still young. He wants to become a 3-division champion.
So if he beats Prograis, he may stay short unless there are big money fights to make. Otherwise, a move to 147 is expected. I'm curious though, what if he loses to Prograis? He's having a hard time making 135 but he can make bigger money with his 3 belts rather than build his resume at 140 for another title fight opportunity. And maybe Tank Davis gains confidence and is willing to fight Haney if he loses to Prograis.
I was really surprised to hear from him that he is vacating all the remaining belts he had at 135 lbs, so now he is a true 140 lbs and there is no going back. So yeah, if he wins here, for sure the plan will be is to become undisputed here. But it will be a tough road for Haney, I mean he has to go to Teo Lopez first, as we all know the lineal champion. And then we have a new superstar, or at least he has cemented his claim at the belt that he has defended, Matias. A tough IBF 140 lbs champion and it will be great to see Haney or even Teo Lopez fight this guy.
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I'm not surprised by Haney's move to vacate the belt at 135 lbs. His body has matured already, it's not that he doesn't want to defend it, but I'm seeing that it's more of his body not going to make it or it will be more difficult more his body to squeeze in that weight class.
So even if he doesn't want to, then he has no choice but to go to 140 lbs. And just think about it, if he beats Prograis here, then he will have a belt to defend in the future. So it will not be that easy for him to go back to 135 lbs, and as we have seen, he become undisputed already so nothing to proved there. He should just wait for Shakur or Tank Davis to move up and make that money fight.
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December 06, 2023, 10:39:02 AM |
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I'm not surprised by Haney's move to vacate the belt at 135 lbs. His body has matured already, it's not that he doesn't want to defend it, but I'm seeing that it's more of his body not going to make it or it will be more difficult more his body to squeeze in that weight class.
So even if he doesn't want to, then he has no choice but to go to 140 lbs. And just think about it, if he beats Prograis here, then he will have a belt to defend in the future. So it will not be that easy for him to go back to 135 lbs, and as we have seen, he become undisputed already so nothing to proved there. He should just wait for Shakur or Tank Davis to move up and make that money fight.
Haney did mention that Tank Davis isn't interested in a shot at the undisputed championship. So it's more like Haney was only willing to sacrifice making the weight for a fight against Tank. Haney is mad at Shakur and Loma, and he knows they are too risky for him so he better vacate all his belts blocking them the opportunity to become undisputed in just a single fight. Tank is like a low-risk high-reward fight for Haney whereas with the potential money against risky Loma and Shakur, he can get it at 140 while at the same time he gets the chance to become a 2-division world champion. We are already at fight week. I like the bad blood between the two. I can feel Prograis is mad at Haney and wants to punish him badly. So he is determined here while Haney is hyping himself and talking about anything including lies to get public attention. Haney is doing the villain role to sell fights.
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December 06, 2023, 10:51:20 AM |
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I'm not surprised by Haney's move to vacate the belt at 135 lbs. His body has matured already, it's not that he doesn't want to defend it, but I'm seeing that it's more of his body not going to make it or it will be more difficult more his body to squeeze in that weight class.
So even if he doesn't want to, then he has no choice but to go to 140 lbs. And just think about it, if he beats Prograis here, then he will have a belt to defend in the future. So it will not be that easy for him to go back to 135 lbs, and as we have seen, he become undisputed already so nothing to proved there. He should just wait for Shakur or Tank Davis to move up and make that money fight.
Haney did mention that Tank Davis isn't interested in a shot at the undisputed championship. So it's more like Haney was only willing to sacrifice making the weight for a fight against Tank. Haney is mad at Shakur and Loma, and he knows they are too risky for him so he better vacate all his belts blocking them the opportunity to become undisputed in just a single fight. Tank is like a low-risk high-reward fight for Haney whereas with the potential money against risky Loma and Shakur, he can get it at 140 while at the same time he gets the chance to become a 2-division world champion. We are already at fight week. I like the bad blood between the two. I can feel Prograis is mad at Haney and wants to punish him badly. So he is determined here while Haney is hyping himself and talking about anything including lies to get public attention. Haney is doing the villain role to sell fights. Looks everything is personal, I see video of the photo shop and there was tension between the older Haney and someone from the camp of Prograis, not sure if that is his training or what, but definitely something is brewing and the animosity is real up to this point. I don't think that Haney will risk going down to 135 lbs at this point. Not even a Tank fight at that weight class. And I do agree that if ever he wanted Tank or a piece of Shakur, it will be at 140 lbs. Devin Haney is sensing already that he will be a champion and beat Prograis in a full 12 rounds that's why they are very confident.
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Devin Haney is sensing already that he will be a champion and beat Prograis in a full 12 rounds that's why they are very confident.
He's always very confident in this fight, and the fact that bookies are favoring him to win makes his confidence boost even more. It's a championship fight, and he'll be the new champion if he wins here, so that's alright for him if he gets confident, as he really needs that in a championship fight. I just wish that Prograis really has the game plan to not allow Haney to dictate the fight. Because if he does, Haney would effortlessly win in a 12-round battle, and judges would hand their decision favoring Haney for a unanimous decision win.
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