Hhampuz using his position on forum to vindicate scams

[Pmalek]

I disagree on this. Feedbacks and reputation are not things that work out in isolation. Many users give negative feedback or positive (but mostly negative) based on the proof presented by others and that's how it should work.

I agree with this, but this is different from what I was talking about. It's ok to rightly tag someone with red paint if that someone is a proven scammer as a warning to other members.

I was talking about actual cases where two users traded physical/digital goods. If I was part of such a trade with you, and I was satisfied, I would let those feelings be known using the feedback system, regardless what your other ratings say. It works the other way as well. You could have 50 positive trades, I am still going to leave you a negative if you scam me and don't fulfill your part of our agreement without thinking what the community will think of me.

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[Franctoshi]

Op, Issues like this usually occur between bettors and the platform they operate, but I haven't heard or seen many users of Robilt accuse the platform of such acts, from experience here, Rolbit has spent 2 years + in the forum and has got a reputation, So Hampuz is talking from the point of having managed and run the Rolbit campaign for a long now without issues of scams, so I see no wrong from Hampuz side, however, I think Hampuz should take the issue to get the Rolbit's management team in the know.

[JollyGood]

Maybe the OP will decide it is time to lock the thread. He has after all made his point and he has read the replies from Hhampuz. Add to that he has read the replies and opinions of many members (which mostly do not agree with him). It is clear the OP did not get far with momentum of members behind his allegation.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

They currently have only BitcoinGirl.Club from the DT club that supports them together with a few non-DT members.

I removed the support. Other day it was completely out of mind that I had support to the flag or I would withdraw the support when I removed the tag.

Another campaign for BC.Game that is running, is also one that is similar to this case. L0tt0.com on the other hand, is managed by BoXoB who also promoted a casino that ended up scamming for tens/hundreds of millions. I mention both of these cases as there definitely needs to be some sort of refinement of the responsibility that campaign managers have when they are running campaigns. They are, after all, a vehicle of trust and marketing between the casino and players.

We are still waiting to see the reports from Betnomi victims.

[Billo_]

Maybe the OP will decide it is time to lock the thread.

Only OP and his main account know.

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Somehow we already know whose alt account OP is, don't we?


Only request I'm going to make: Hhampuz probably should reward new topic starters more. Topics getting many clicks compared to local boards where only few people are active?
Issue is many services are shady. It's only a question of time until we see an exit scam again or fraud operator like ChipMixer. 

[UmerIdrees]

Only request I'm going to make: Hhampuz probably should reward new topic starters more. Topics getting many clicks compared to local boards where only few people are active?

This is just off-topic here but still, you cannot deny that in some cases the local board participants are more active and engaging and they should not be ignored. Also, I don't think if it will do any good if people started to create new topics purposely when they are not required.

Issue is many services are shady. It's only a question of time until we see an exit scam again or fraud operator like ChipMixer.  

There is a difference between a scam exit and a service being shut down by the government and financial authorities.
Also, the campaign managers have no role in such cases as they are only managing the campaigns of the companies/services which were legit at the time they were running.

[Pmalek]

It's only a question of time until we see an exit scam again or fraud operator like ChipMixer.

ChipMixer didn't commit fraud nor did they cheat their customers. It was a mixing service that got shutdown and taken offline by the FBI and Interpol. Their service worked exactly as advertised. It allowed anyone to mix their coins: you, me, or hardcore fraudsters. It's partially because it was used to wipe the history from the coins that came from malicious activities that it was taken down. The bigger reason is that no government in the world want you to be private or free.

[nutildah]

ChipMixer didn't commit fraud nor did they cheat their customers.

The owner did commit fraud, but it was related to using stolen identities for the purpose of paying for servers. It is true that they did not cheat their customers, however, got to give credit where its due.

Their service worked exactly as advertised.

Well not exactly. The operator said they wiped all logs after 7 days. The feds were able to confiscate the BTC in several chips that had already been paid out to purchasers, some of the cashouts were months or even years old...

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So here's the FAQ:
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How long do you keep logs?
Your session lasts for 7 days. After that, your session and all its data will be removed. You can also destroy your session before time is up. We keep statistical data ie. how much was donated.

I would assume the private keys to chips would be included in data to be wiped, but technically it was never clarified.

Anyway, sorry for the OT.

[PrimeNumber7]

It looks like all the relevant trust ratings have been removed from the casino’s forum account trust page, so I think the issue is closed.

From what I can tell, hhampuz left a trust rating that reflected an actual transaction (actually a series of transactions), that had a real economic benefit to both parties outside of leaving the trust rating. There isn’t any reason why he shouldn’t be able to leave a rating under these circumstances.

I think the situation highlights a problem with the trust system. Too many people are focused on raw trust scores and are ignoring the references and the words behind the ratings. Hhampuz left a rating for an advertising campaign. Anyone considering entrusting the casino with their money should give more weight to ratings regarding the casino honoring withdrawals and paying out appropriately. If, in the future, someone else is considering to run an advertising campaign for the casino, the feedback by hhampuz would be valuable to them.

[GxSTxV]

There are many meaningless and incorrect details in your accusation. You're accusing a casino of being a scam without any solid evidence yet, and the case you're referring to is still ongoing which means you're making baseless claims and mixing two things in one by pointing everything to Hhampuz I believe you have a personal issue with him.
 If you were confident in your statements you wouldn't use a new account to create the old known drama in this section. Accusations should be based on the complete story and all details to avoid false accusations against casinos or people due newbies stories that been started because of losing some deposits or after account lock due rule violations.

[dkbit98]

Because I don't want to be targeted by others.

So you don't want to be targeted by others, but you want to target other members aka Hhampuz  
I never liked when members don't have enough balls to use their main account for saying what they want, and any accusations coming from alt accounts chicken is losing any integrity.
I am sure accused manager was not asked to defend any of his clients, but he has full right on his own opinion and he can say whatever he wants.
If I was in manager's place I would never blindly defend any of my clients, but that is just me.

I know signature campaign guys won't care to step up because Hhampuz will not take them into any campaigns in future.

That probably includes you as well, right?
Maybe that is one more reason for using chicken alt account.

[JollyGood]

I asked why he would use an alt-account to post about this rather than use his real account and he said he did not want to be targeted. Theoretically he is right, of-course he could feel he might be targeted including the (unlikely) risk of being excluded from future campaigns as revenge. That however should be aside from the core complaint.

We do not know which other accounts the OP controls but he is complaining because he sees Hhampuz as being biased towards the projects he promotes. He based that view on the examples he cited. Hhampuz posted in this thread to refute the allegation. Before and subsequently the OP did not receive any support therefore members do not agree with the allegation Hhampuz using his position on forum to vindicate scams

The OP should keep that in mind and maybe lock the thread.

If you were confident in your statements you wouldn't use a new account to create the old known drama in this section. Accusations should be based on the complete story and all details to avoid false accusations against casinos or people due newbies stories that been started because of losing some deposits or after account lock due rule violations.

[LoyceV]

I think the situation highlights a problem with the trust system. Too many people are focused on raw trust scores and are ignoring the references and the words behind the ratings.

That's not a problem with the Trust system, it's a user-problem. The only way to "fix" this from within the Trust system would be by removing the Trust score altogether.

[NotATether]

Only request I'm going to make: Hhampuz probably should reward new topic starters more. Topics getting many clicks compared to local boards where only few people are active?

This is just off-topic here but still, you cannot deny that in some cases the local board participants are more active and engaging and they should not be ignored. Also, I don't think if it will do any good if people started to create new topics purposely when they are not required.

It's very easy for a person to create a topic that's got 100 characters about things like:

- "Should I keep buying more bitcoin or hold?"

- "Bitcoin will reach $100,000 by end of the year, analyst says"

- "Microstrategy buys more Bitcoin"

- Topics like these

- And even using AI to generate the OP, which I've seen a few people get away with on the main boards!

So is it worthwhile? No, because the amount of effort being put to create a new topic compared to a new reply is, for most people, negligent.

[DireWolfM14]

If you were confident in your statements you wouldn't use a new account to create the old known drama in this section.

What old known drama?  I wasn't aware of any issues with Rollbit until I read this thread.  If this is old news, it obviously wasn't known to all of us.

As I've clearly stated in this thread, I have no issues with Hhampuz's review, but I do have issues with all those focusing on the least important aspect of this thread; the status of the OP's account.  Even if the OP lacks confidence in his assertion, I would rather have him create a sockpuppet and bring up a non-issue than to have a potentially damaging issue go unaddressed due to fear of retaliation.

Look at all the members attacking the OP as it is.  Imagine if this were some up-and-coming Sr. Member with good potential.  Do you think these "Legendary" members would leave him alone, or would they continue to harass him for calling out one of our favorite CMs?

[SmartGold01]

From my little knowledge over here and research I don't think Hhampuz in any way connected to this project owner or in hand to what happened to anyone if the casino refuses to pay their players, I won't categorically say that he is using his rank to oppose flag or opposed any scam accusations but what you should know is that, you don't expect everyone to reason like you or even act like you because you noticed something isn't right all other people should act accordingly to how you viewed. Yes off course, no one would see scam and fully support it but what I noticed is that after he might reason and examine his own point of view and if he noticed no sign or atom of scam to what you see as scam he has the Will power to oppose it.

Btw Hhampuz is partially in direct contact to project he is managing and he might help to chat with those projects if such case is brought to his notice and he looked into it he might decide to directly contact the project owner and if they refused he might decide to pause the campaign in other to abstain himself from a scamming project.

So your own case analysis may or may not be the same as others only if they stands for the truth, and from bpip.org it shows that he is the most trusted manager and I can't in anyway See's Hhampuz to acts according to your wishes.

[JollyGood]

Somehow we already know whose alt account OP is, don't we?

I could be missing the blatantly obvious therefore can you elaborate?

This is just off-topic here but still, you cannot deny that in some cases the local board participants are more active and engaging and they should not be ignored. Also, I don't think if it will do any good if people started to create new topics purposely when they are not required.

It's very easy for a person to create a topic that's got 100 characters about things like:

- "Should I keep buying more bitcoin or hold?"

- "Bitcoin will reach $100,000 by end of the year, analyst says"

- "Microstrategy buys more Bitcoin"

- Topics like these

- And even using AI to generate the OP, which I've seen a few people get away with on the main boards!

So is it worthwhile? No, because the amount of effort being put to create a new topic compared to a new reply is, for most people, negligent.

You are right, it is not worthwhile though there could be odd exceptions.

I had a look at some of the topics in the Bitcoin Discussion and noted at the end of several OPs were questions such as "what do you think?" and "what should I do?". Many of those are the sort of topics that been started for purposes other than genuine discussion.

[DireWolfM14]

Somehow we already know whose alt account OP is, don't we?

I could be missing the blatantly obvious therefore can you elaborate?

You, missing the obvious?  Shocking. 

He's suggesting it's me.  Are you happy?

[GxSTxV]

What old known drama?  I wasn't aware of any issues with Rollbit until I read this thread.  If this is old news, it obviously wasn't known to all of us.

Im sorry if my previous statement "old known drama" wasn't clear for you. What I meant is that on Bitcointalk we see both new or known casinos often face accusations from newbies almost everyday . And most of these claims are due to breaking rules like creating multiple accounts or losing money while gambling so they start crying here until the casino team clarify things and explain why that user couldn’t withdraw or was banned.
Im certain that those who provide evidence to support their claims regardless of their position newbie to legendary. This is how things have been working on here for a while and everyone gets his right

[JCLadisav]

Maybe the OP will decide it is time to lock the thread. He has after all made his point and he has read the replies from Hhampuz. Add to that he has read the replies and opinions of many members (which mostly do not agree with him). It is clear the OP did not get far with momentum of members behind his allegation.

I was going to close it but now watching you die slowly motivates me to keep this thread up lol

It hurt when someone you worship is being asked questions publicly. I started the thread to ask Hhampuz a question publicly but now I will keep it open because I want to see you come here everyday and die slowly lmao


@DireWolfM14 We're alts? I will take that as a compliment and move on xD


It's ironic people are questioning me "why" I am using a throwaway account while proving the reason at the same time. It's so that you morons cannot attack my main account, gotcha?

@GxSTxV The question isn't about who supports who, instead opposing anything posted against a casino he works for, without even knowing the case details, as admitted by Hhampuz.

Oh and by the way, @JollyGood, I never said my other account is established kid

But well, I am used to of your incorrect feedbacks to other members so I'll let it be