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all of this is to make sure that the project that they done is credible. I think such certificate can't be issued by non government institutions. we need a legal institution or group or public figures that credible and popular to issue that certificate because once the certificate is issued they will risking their credibility. in my country there is institutions called OJK which supervise any money related service, for me it is safer to use service that supervised by OJK.
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Sepertinya sudah waktunya, kalau menurut saya lebih baik lump sum sekarang. 30/01/2024.
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August 01, 2023, 05:34:09 AM |
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I would never pay any money for such bullsh*t. Passing one exam and buying one course doesn't mean that you are a true professional. There must be a 4 year long university program for becoming an expert in cryptocurrencies and blockchain technology. The participants in such program must practice their skills for months or even years. Learning theory is only 20%, building skills by practice must be 80% of the entire crypto/blockchain education. I guess that those "crypto organizations" OP is mentioning have found an easy way to make some easy money by selling "certificates" to a bunch of gullible crypto noobs.
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August 01, 2023, 05:59:37 AM |
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Well, it is nice that Andreas Antonopoulos are one of their board of Directors, because he is very knowledgeable about Bitcoin and Crypto currencies. He will not back any bogus organization that will issue doggy certificated, because he has a relative good reputation in the Crypto community. I have been involved in a lot of recruiting for posts and we do not even consider "certificates" that are not verified by our local registering authorities. That does not mean that I will not look into this... so thank you OP for posting this.
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What are the benefits of being a Certified Bitcoin Professional? Do you get discounts, perks, or access to exclusive events? 😎 I'll enroll only if I get free Bitcoin with my certification.
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August 01, 2023, 07:27:01 AM |
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It's probably not very useful for anyone wanting to dive much deeper into it. You could probably learn more by experimenting yourself (i.e. playing with testnet) and talking to people on technical boards.
But if you just play with testnet, you'll have nothing to show the recruiters, unless you have made programs and demos beforehand to demonstrate your experience. And that will take some time - because the human mind is not exactly known to be creative without ideas. Similarly, if you just study about bitcoin from various websites, these hiring companies don't really care much about that because you can't verifiably prove to them in the hiring process that you're capable of developing applications beforehand What are the benefits of being a Certified Bitcoin Professional? Do you get discounts, perks, or access to exclusive events? 😎 I'll enroll only if I get free Bitcoin with my certification.
Very funny, but you actually have to pay Bitcoin to take the course.
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August 01, 2023, 07:55:53 AM |
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What are the benefits of being a Certified Bitcoin Professional? Do you get discounts, perks, or access to exclusive events? 😎 I'll enroll only if I get free Bitcoin with my certification.
The only benefit i can think of is the knowledge you will probably get in the process, BTC is a decentralized network so nobody is really going to recognize you because you were certified by a particular group. The group that provides the certification might be made up of people that are knowledgeable about BTC, but because the network is decentralized they do not really have any authority to certify a person. You are not getting any free BTC's, perks or anything, you are spending your money to get the certificate.
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August 01, 2023, 11:29:46 AM |
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I've stumbled upon this certification of being a "Certified Bitcoin Professional" (CBP) by C4(cryptoconsortium) so I think that I have to share this one. As we know that this is still an industry that doesn't have standards for being a professional and most likely it's just all about being a programmer/developer, project manager, trader, investor and etc. There will be many people interested in knowing more about bitcoins when they learn about it, these people know that is why they have decided to make money from it by claiming to give certification. Many people in this forum have deeper knowledge about bitcoins than the tutors in these school for certification, and also passing through this school does not give any confidence that you know more than someone who has deep interest in bitcoins and a dedicated member of this forum.
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August 01, 2023, 11:44:42 AM |
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What are the benefits of being a Certified Bitcoin Professional? Do you get discounts, perks, or access to exclusive events? 😎 I'll enroll only if I get free Bitcoin with my certification.
You can put it in your CV and they would know that you are an expert when it comes to bitcoin blockchain and many other bitcoin related stuff, think of these two certifications like those Cisco professional certifications, you can only get them if you're really good and you passed their exams. This kind of certification is a good addition if you are a programmer or you work in IT related field but mostly programming since it's about blockchain mostly, many companies that are working in crypto space is looking for people that have the prowess and most of them pay well above the normal programmer pay grade and this certification helps you get on top of their list if not their attention.
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August 01, 2023, 11:45:32 AM |
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What will you get aside than this certify?
Will this certificate give you a 100% guarantee you will able to work in Bitcoin sector? nope
Will this certificate make you understand about Bitcoin? not really.
I don't see any skill that you would get after completing this certificate except you're become a teacher which teach about Bitcoin in general. Without this certificate, you can still become a teacher as long as you understand about Bitcoin in basic and the difference with bank or fiat.
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August 01, 2023, 11:54:57 AM |
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Certified Bitcoin Professional, huh? Sounds like the kind of title I'd put on my LinkedIn profile just to impress my friends. But hey, if it helps people get into the industry, why not?
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Well, it is nice that Andreas Antonopoulos are one of their board of Directors, because he is very knowledgeable about Bitcoin and Crypto currencies. He will not back any bogus organization that will issue doggy certificated, because he has a relative good reputation in the Crypto community. ~snip~
I don't think things like this have much purpose, because it's an exam that takes 20 minutes, it's done online and anyone can cheat (regardless of the short time). Furthermore, it is necessary to answer at least 70% of the questions correctly in order to receive a certificate, which for me is an insufficient percentage in determining that someone has enough knowledge to receive any certificate. In addition, the price of one certificate is $100 + certification fee of $39.99, and the certificate is only valid for 2 years. We can think that someone is doing this because they want to help others, but in the end it all boils down to the fact that you have to pay $140 to get something that doesn't really have any value when you're looking for a job.
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It makes me laugh enough that a company invents a course of study on blockchain and Bitcoin and then wants to issue a certification to say that you are now officially an expert ... in reality you have stolen my money. I would like to know who gives them the right to say that that certification is authentic, in short Bitcoin is not a product of a company and I don't understand how a company certification can become a standard...lol
Very true, only the company owing Bitcoin can give you the certificate of the product and no one owns Bitcoin. For example, we see Microsoft gives us the certificate of the product which they develop like Ms Office Certified Engineer or Windows Server Engineering Certificate. Similarly, you can get certificates from Cisco and Oracle products because those companies own that products. No company should have the right to give the Bitcoin certificate and I think this is another money making opportunity. From my point of view, this certification have no worth. Exactly I mean just what a company can issue a certificate for its products and do accredited training courses but not behind Bitcoin there is no company and it's funny how someone can independently make use of this without them owning it the brand or product. It also happens with Linux but there is a foundation behind it that has been recognized worldwide, I don't know that this is the case with Bitcoin at the moment.
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It makes me laugh enough that a company invents a course of study on blockchain and Bitcoin and then wants to issue a certification to say that you are now officially an expert ... in reality you have stolen my money. I would like to know who gives them the right to say that that certification is authentic, in short Bitcoin is not a product of a company and I don't understand how a company certification can become a standard...lol
Very true, only the company owing Bitcoin can give you the certificate of the product and no one owns Bitcoin. For example, we see Microsoft gives us the certificate of the product which they develop like Ms Office Certified Engineer or Windows Server Engineering Certificate. Similarly, you can get certificates from Cisco and Oracle products because those companies own that products. No company should have the right to give the Bitcoin certificate and I think this is another money making opportunity. From my point of view, this certification have no worth. Exactly I mean just what a company can issue a certificate for its products and do accredited training courses but not behind Bitcoin there is no company and it's funny how someone can independently make use of this without them owning it the brand or product. It also happens with Linux but there is a foundation behind it that has been recognized worldwide, I don't know that this is the case with Bitcoin at the moment. people will always find a way how to exhaust money from this new market. so no wonder, some are using this to earn money from naive users. i don't know why some people are blind or just dumb getting such certificates. i can understand if it is blockchain technology but bitcoin, that's indeed ridiculous!
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It is a personal matter for everyone whether to receive a certificate. I agree that it is probably needed only for work in order to show it along with the rest of the certificates to the company that hires you. Perhaps you will look more competitive against the background of other candidates. As for knowledge, I don't know what it gives that can't be found in the public domain. I agree with you that on the forum you can find a lot of useful information. The certificate only confirms that you have knowledge in this area. But the absence of a certificate does not mean that you do not know anything and do not understand There is a conclusion, then if there is an opportunity, then it can be done, it will not be worse with him - it can come in handy
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I would never pay any money for such bullsh*t. Passing one exam and buying one course doesn't mean that you are a true professional. There must be a 4 year long university program for becoming an expert in cryptocurrencies and blockchain technology. The participants in such program must practice their skills for months or even years. Learning theory is only 20%, building skills by practice must be 80% of the entire crypto/blockchain education. I guess that those "crypto organizations" OP is mentioning have found an easy way to make some easy money by selling "certificates" to a bunch of gullible crypto noobs.
The purpose of such certificates is not to turn anyone into a full-blown Bitcoin developer, but to certify that you have a basic understanding of what Bitcoin is and how it works. I'm guessing their target group is professional firms wanting to train their employees to help them better understand what is all about if their jobs require any kind of dealings with crypto. Or it might be a good way to boost up your CV with something that'll make you stand out from others.
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I had no plans to pay $140 to get myself certified - that didn't seem like much use to me. Of course some of us would be interested - but I think it's just a collection instead a condition for applying for a job. Certificates can be useful - but not all jobs require certificates especially if they only want your experience and ability on the job.
A certificate might explain to your future children that you are one of the many people who know and are knowledgeable about bitcoin - but I don't think it's very useful for the company that will hire you.
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Recently, a friend who is an accountant is need for a certificate in this area and not because the company is involved in the crypto world, just because due to the boom and disclosure, they want to be prepared. There are starsups dedicated to training, this type of training has been going on for years, now they are not endorsed by the official education ministries, but they do exist long time. Let's say that, as has happened with other technological things, that type of course is always there, there are still Excell courses. So, in the case of our forum, which you mention, it may not be very useful at the level of the bureaucracy of a piece of paper that says, "you are an expert".
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My take on this one is that if you've got a lot of spare money and you want to get into this, it's just all about satisfaction and getting the certificate unless you want to apply for jobs related to Bitcoin and related to blockchain technology.
Two questions come to mind here. First is whether companies hiring "blockchain experts" require such certificates or care if you have one or not. Second is whether these hiring companies even recognize the issuer of such certificates! I believe this kind of certificate is useless. I have this certification, I was approved in this exam by 2018 ( It already expired). Aa company paid for my exam, otherwise I wouldn't take it. One thing that is interesting about this certification are the people behind it: Antonopoulos and Vitalik Buterin (he was when I took the exam, but I believe he left). I wouldn't do it again, only if someone paid me to do it or to have it. That’s how its irrelevance is defined, by its expiry date. Having such a knowledge based certification to come with an expiry date almost feels as though the knowledge did expire with the certificate as well. When there isn’t any much backing other than the organization administering the examination, then there is a problem of how it could be used and of what significance is it to the crypt space. As far as I can tell, I don’t know of a body that sets standards to what goes and doesn’t and the closest to any form of attachment to what could be in bitcoin has always been the forum but even at that, the forum only operates within its own spheres being where, it’s rules can apply and nothing more
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No one has the full knowledge of bitcoin, talk more to having an institute that issues out certificate on bitcoin course. Bitcoin is very broad that it can't be learnt for three years. Nobody will care of your certificate if you want to be employed to a company because the employer believes on what you gat in you as bitcoin is not theory but practical especially the programmers and dev. Certificate is only paper and anyone can come up with a certificate on blockchain claiming to be a professional which might not be true. The only one that can have an institute on bitcoin that will be recognized by the world is Satoshi but this is impossible. I will prefer to learn in this forum gradually for a very long time than going to pay for some paper that I don't know if I can grab a lot of knowledge on bitcoin from them.
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August 02, 2023, 05:47:08 AM |
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No one has the full knowledge of bitcoin, talk more to having an institute that issues out certificate on bitcoin course. Bitcoin is very broad that it can't be learnt for three years. Nobody will care of your certificate if you want to be employed to a company because the employer believes on what you gat in you as bitcoin is not theory but practical especially the programmers and dev. Certificate is only paper and anyone can come up with a certificate on blockchain claiming to be a professional which might not be true. The only one that can have an institute on bitcoin that will be recognized by the world is Satoshi but this is impossible. I will prefer to learn in this forum gradually for a very long time than going to pay for some paper that I don't know if I can grab a lot of knowledge on bitcoin from them.
Given its complexity and ongoing change, understanding Bitcoin is a lifetime journey. Instead, certifications formalize knowledge. Yes, real-world application matters, especially in bitcoin and blockchain. Cant other disciplines say the same? Self-taught programmers can outperform computer science graduates. Isnt the degree merely paper in this context? They offer organized information, networking, and recognition. Satoshi's engagement in a Bitcoin institute would be impressive, but the community's expertise drives Bitcoin. Wouldnt an institute funded by the world's leading Bitcoin engineers, influencers, and thought leaders be just as powerful?
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