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August 02, 2023, 10:11:49 PM
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I don't give a shit what anyone says, this world is overpopulated and is only going to get worse and worse as time goes on.  Just look at home much land we destroy each and every single day, to make way for the needs of human beings.  We are destroying are oceans on top of that.  During Covid during the harshest of times, we saw a lot of magnificent things in nature due to the fact of humans not being out and about and interrupting nature as we generally do.

IMO there should be limits to how many children people have.  But this will never happen on a global scale until it's too late. People mostly aren't willing to make "sacrifices" that won't benefit them directly.

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August 02, 2023, 10:27:02 PM
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This is actually one lf the long time problem of the government. It is fine if we want to have plenty of children as it is our personal choice but if you are jobless or unable to provide the needs of your kids, better think of it twice.
If we aren't responsible enough to sustain having plenty of children, we might only end up blaming the government because of the povert that you're going through and your children will surely suffer. It is true that children are source of our happiness but it's a lifetime responsibility so we should be wise when it comes to decision making.
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August 02, 2023, 11:05:59 PM
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I don't give a shit what anyone says, this world is overpopulated and is only going to get worse and worse as time goes on.  Just look at home much land we destroy each and every single day, to make way for the needs of human beings.  We are destroying are oceans on top of that.  During Covid during the harshest of times, we saw a lot of magnificent things in nature due to the fact of humans not being out and about and interrupting nature as we generally do.

IMO there should be limits to how many children people have.  But this will never happen on a global scale until it's too late. People mostly aren't willing to make "sacrifices" that won't benefit them directly.
Agreed, with the increasing population the better living conditions were destroyed with the increasing demand. In particular the environmental changes were massive. In some countries there is restriction and the governments have provided with scholarship and other benefits based on the number of children. Such measures will surely lower the population rise.

Rather than sacrifice even now there are people who never get used to the advancement and birth control procedures. They just put everything on god and say God have given it and we shouldn't stop it. It looks funny, but this happening in some part of the world.

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August 02, 2023, 11:12:36 PM
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Traditionally here in our country couples are encouraged to have as many children as they can, so they have children to take care of them when they get old, this is the reason why we have a population explosion and since we are in a third-world country where there's too much corruption, inflation is too high and there's scarcity of jobs and per capita income cannot sustain a big family, it's not logical to have a big family anymore.

Having a big family is only good if the economy of one's country is good but if the economy is struggling the head of the family will also struggle to sustain it, it's hard to sustain a family of 6 here in our country if you are only a minimum earner of $11.02.

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August 03, 2023, 12:05:49 AM
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But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.
There are some people in my country who argue if they have plenty of children, they would have a lot of fortune. I also don't know how they can think like that, because when I look at those who have plenty of children, their life is look lacking, and their house looks messy and unkempt. But, even live like that, they are still happy, they still can launch and have breakfast. I do not know how, because when I look their father only has odd jobs, and with this situation, I can't imagine how I live with have 4 Children with minimal income like that.
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August 03, 2023, 12:28:39 AM
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I don't give a shit what anyone says, this world is overpopulated and is only going to get worse and worse as time goes on.  Just look at home much land we destroy each and every single day, to make way for the needs of human beings.  We are destroying are oceans on top of that.  During Covid during the harshest of times, we saw a lot of magnificent things in nature due to the fact of humans not being out and about and interrupting nature as we generally do.

IMO there should be limits to how many children people have.  But this will never happen on a global scale until it's too late. People mostly aren't willing to make "sacrifices" that won't benefit them directly.
Agreed, with the increasing population the better living conditions were destroyed with the increasing demand. In particular the environmental changes were massive. In some countries there is restriction and the governments have provided with scholarship and other benefits based on the number of children. Such measures will surely lower the population rise.

Rather than sacrifice even now there are people who never get used to the advancement and birth control procedures. They just put everything on god and say God have given it and we shouldn't stop it. It looks funny, but this happening in some part of the world.
I agree that population growth is an alarming thing for the health of our planet and that the prospect of a world desolated like in the sci-fi movies is possible in the future. But we won't be able to stop because everyone has needs, including you and me, when we reach adulthood, everyone wants to get married and have children. So while we're still doing it, we can't stop or oppose anyone from doing it. We should not blame anyone because we are also contributing to making the world worse. Looks like you don't believe in god?

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August 03, 2023, 02:15:41 AM
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It depends on the condition of the nation and I don't in the micro scale or individual choice to have children or not will have any affect for the country, it will only have some effect if the decision of having children was in macro scale e.g when a country decide to limit on having children or oblige the citizen to have (more) children.

The affect also depends on how good is the economic condition of a country, even with small number of population growth if the country have good economy the children will tend to get better nutrition and education, make them will be more contributed to the nation. On the opposite doesn't matter how many population a country have if the economic condition is not good, those children when they finally become an adult will not contribute that much, at best most of them will become a low skill labor and the country will depend on foreigner for the high-skilled one.

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August 03, 2023, 02:41:21 AM
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I don't give a shit what anyone says, this world is overpopulated and is only going to get worse and worse as time goes on.  Just look at home much land we destroy each and every single day, to make way for the needs of human beings.  We are destroying are oceans on top of that.  During Covid during the harshest of times, we saw a lot of magnificent things in nature due to the fact of humans not being out and about and interrupting nature as we generally do.

IMO there should be limits to how many children people have.  But this will never happen on a global scale until it's too late. People mostly aren't willing to make "sacrifices" that won't benefit them directly.
Agreed, with the increasing population the better living conditions were destroyed with the increasing demand. In particular the environmental changes were massive. In some countries there is restriction and the governments have provided with scholarship and other benefits based on the number of children. Such measures will surely lower the population rise.

Rather than sacrifice even now there are people who never get used to the advancement and birth control procedures. They just put everything on god and say God have given it and we shouldn't stop it. It looks funny, but this happening in some part of the world.
I agree that population growth is an alarming thing for the health of our planet and that the prospect of a world desolated like in the sci-fi movies is possible in the future. But we won't be able to stop because everyone has needs, including you and me, when we reach adulthood, everyone wants to get married and have children. So while we're still doing it, we can't stop or oppose anyone from doing it. We should not blame anyone because we are also contributing to making the world worse. Looks like you don't believe in god?


I agree that it is essentially a natural thing. We need to reproduce in order to survive, I mean it is human nature. However, there should be a limit, specially for different lifestyle and community we live in. Family planning is vital today as we are not only the ones to suffer if we cannot provide for our family but also the children we are bringing to this world.
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August 03, 2023, 02:49:59 AM
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I don't give a shit what anyone says, this world is overpopulated and is only going to get worse and worse as time goes on.  Just look at home much land we destroy each and every single day, to make way for the needs of human beings.  We are destroying are oceans on top of that.  During Covid during the harshest of times, we saw a lot of magnificent things in nature due to the fact of humans not being out and about and interrupting nature as we generally do.

IMO there should be limits to how many children people have.  But this will never happen on a global scale until it's too late. People mostly aren't willing to make "sacrifices" that won't benefit them directly.
Regarding the number of children each family has in various countries, it turns out that it has its own uniqueness. I mean the number of children per family in developed countries and developing countries is very different. Financially, families in developed countries must have a good life and sufficient income. But they are good at limiting offspring. Like per family most only have 1 or 2 children. But if we look at developing countries where there are still many families who still can't be said to have financial stability or it can be said that their income is not too big but strangely the number of children per family in developing countries is far more. Even in developing countries per family can have children exceeding 4, 5 or more. There are also those who only have 1 or 2 children. but the majority are more than 2 children if it's in a developing country. But in one developed country there is a population or heredity crisis like in Japan. So that the government there actually encouraged its citizens to have children and was even promised to be given special allowances to help pay for children.

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August 03, 2023, 09:39:31 AM
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Many people are afraid of having many children because they feel that many children are a burden so that it can reduce productivity, but in my country people who have many children are seen as a good thing because currently in my country many people are old and they only have 1 or 2 children, many residents is better productivity than no residents.


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August 03, 2023, 09:58:25 AM
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But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.
If you can cater for many kids do so but if you are going to be a deadbeat father or mother, please do not bring kids into this world for them to suffer. With regards to the economy, soon the kids will grow up and add to the workforce which would increase the GDP of the country. If the kids are well taken care of, they may become doctors, lawyers, engineers, Nurses and actually contribute meaningfully to the society. But the warning is to bring the number of kids that you can take care of with government assistance or support.
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August 03, 2023, 12:33:54 PM
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Is there an effect both positive or negative to the county's economy when couples have plenty children?

In the past before the current economic era, around the 15th century and the beginning of the French industrial revolution, having many children was seen as fertility and good for both the family work force and country's also. The labour force was majorly manual and those who worked at the plantations were sort after as able bodied men or women.

But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.
the formula is -> a large population, the level of demand for food increases so that business opportunities in food and drink are very large but there are few jobs so actually there is no problem with a large population.

long ago the couple's lifestyle was very simple, they rarely went spree but now we even often find married couples who are very extravagant and have a high lifestyle so that to educate and take care of their children they don't have the money and time for that.

what i see now is that people tend not to want to be complicated to build a family, in many countries the cost of living is still low so it's not a problem to have lots of children, you can certainly raise them, but in developed countries, it's different, so those who play a big role in the population is the government, they should lighten the burden of people who want to build a family by making education and health free for children so that people are not afraid to have children.

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But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.
Thinking like this will eventually lead to the reluctance of young men to marry, girls getting pregnant at a late age, less time for children, and within 40 years we will see a small number of employees in exchange for an army of elderly people who need care and spend a pension without performing any job with medical care costs.

Childbearing without thinking means that you will find less time to take care of all the children, and this means that some of them will succeed and some will fail, and the part that will fail may be a danger to society, not to mention the difficulty of providing school expenses in the current circumstances.

Mediation is the best, for there to be an organization that allows the individual who has the ability to bear the costs of life to have more children and to set limits such as 3 children per family while leaving additional freedom for the individual.

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August 03, 2023, 02:03:20 PM
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Is there an effect both positive or negative to the county's economy when couples have plenty children?

But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.

In some country even mine have this kind of culture they make a lot of children because they are family-oriented so this makes them happy but this is not came from the rich family instead in the middle to low class family and this cause to them to make more poor, and someone their mindset are those children are the one who lift up them to the low class into high class, in some point its happen but not as always it is, they make their children as retirement plan, so some country make an offer of being a limit of a children to prevent getting over populated.

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August 03, 2023, 02:22:28 PM
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But the warning is to bring the number of kids that you can take care of with government assistance or support.

What level of support can government give that will make couple bring in children into the world that they can not take care of. Most government only subsidize education to a certain level especially tuition fees and that's all, some provide some books but most are left in libraries. I don't think that couples should keep their eyes on what government will support parents with to have themselves behave irresponsible to have kids to can't properly train for them to help the family and contribute to nationhood.
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August 03, 2023, 02:35:09 PM
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The effect of having more children than can be catered for is the reason why it is advised that couples do family planning.
We see the effect of too many children in a country like India, who recorded a high poverty rate at a time. It became also mandatory for China at a time to limit the children from couples to just two.
All these implementation is just to reduce the economic hardship brought about by having too many mouths to feed.

For those who are wealthy and can afford to take good care of the children inorder that they aren't a burden to the society or to their immediate families, we see an example in the person of popular musical star Akon, who has about 9children and they are all well taken care of.
The economic effect on a country will be greatly affected if parents give birth to not only more children than necessary, but also to children that they can't afford to Carter for.

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August 03, 2023, 05:16:52 PM
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I think it depends on where you are from. There are countries that are overpopulated. In places like this, with high competition and fewer opportunities, many are living jobless or couldn't start their own business because of the lack of money. Where people are jobless and dependent on others, the economy will suffer.
On the other hand, if all the people have the opportunity to take part in jobs or businesses, the economy will skyrocket. But it is unlikely to happen.

Also, there are places where it is lacking man power but has plenty of opportunities. Not being able to utilize the opportunity for growth will also lead to a bad economic situation. In countries like this, the government is encouraging its civilians to expand the population. That way, it will help the country's economy.

Having more population and not having enough, both will affect the economy in a bad way. That's why there are birth control system and also population expanding system. But they are applied based on the country's situation. So depending on where you are talking about, having plenty of children will have different results.
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August 03, 2023, 08:58:37 PM
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Is there an effect both positive or negative to the county's economy when couples have plenty children?

I think population is a great factor that can enfluence the economy of a country. In a country where the economy is struggling and not a production country because of high population there will be high level of poverty. When a country's economy is bad and the population keeps increasing it can also lead to inflation whereby the price of goods and  services will be very expensive. In country like US that has a better economy increase in population can have a serious effect to their economy.

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August 03, 2023, 11:39:02 PM
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In answer to op's question, I consider that an increase in fertility rates in any country can affect the nature of the economy and its movement according to the impact of the population census and the age structure of society.  Today, in many developed countries, there is an aging of the population, and the country needs to rejuvenate the demographics, which explains the encouragement of these countries to emigrate young people to them from other countries, and also encourages an increase in childbearing by granting privileges.  This explains the interest of those economies on their human resources.
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August 04, 2023, 03:28:42 AM
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I would say it’s more negative on the side especially if those parents are incapable of providing their children quality life. When that happens, aside from there will be low quality life expected for them, these people will also add to the unproductive consumers in the country. Except for those who never stops working to provide for their living.

However, if these children were born from a well off family and for sure they will get good education, then they can be assets to the country especially in promoting growth and prosperity of a country’s economy.

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