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August 04, 2023, 05:23:37 AM
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I would say it’s more negative on the side especially if those parents are incapable of providing their children quality life. When that happens, aside from there will be low quality life expected for them, these people will also add to the unproductive consumers in the country. Except for those who never stops working to provide for their living.

However, if these children were born from a well off family and for sure they will get good education, then they can be assets to the country especially in promoting growth and prosperity of a country’s economy.

This is true. It depends on the environment and social economic status of the family they belong to. If they are from the lower class where education and basic necessities is hard to attain then these children will possibly be relying for financial help from the government (but like you said these excludes those who are working for themselves and their family, which is already saying a lot with why it is not beneficial to have more children if you're poor). But for those who are born from a rich family then yes they will contribute to society and economy when they get older.
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August 04, 2023, 06:14:35 AM
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Is there an effect both positive or negative to the county's economy when couples have plenty children?

In the past before the current economic era, around the 15th century and the beginning of the French industrial revolution, having many children was seen as fertility and good for both the family work force and country's also. The labour force was majorly manual and those who worked at the plantations were sort after as able bodied men or women.

But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.

IMO, either both can be an advantage or disadvantage to ones country. Depends on the government if they have plans how to run an overpopulated country and how to eliminate the economic crisis caused by it. More people means more workforce, it does not only applicable in the old ages, but it is also applicable in the modern world. What happens here is that most of the government in the 3rd world countries lacks the knowledge and responses in combating unemployment. Here in my country, people living in the very poor category is the most probable people who can produce plenty of children due to the state of their lifestyle, unemployed and nothing else could be done in the household other than having pleasure to forget the status of their living financially. Government here has failed on how to eradicate this kind of incidents as they don't usually offer and prioritizing them to get a job, instead they are consistently providing monetary assistance (monthly) for this people. This way corrupt politicians could also take advantage of this kind of system. This kind of government failure are still going on up until now.
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August 04, 2023, 07:08:05 AM
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You should know that going to school does not necessarily mean education. There are many old people in my country that do not go to school but later make it in life and they are educated in the work they are doing without going to school.
That's correct, educated and skilled are different, what most people doing are school and not learn anything. While skilled people are needed for jobs and that make them have higher chance to eligible with the job criterias.

No citizen is a waste or cannot be useful to the country. There is always a hole that can be filled by someone, no matter how ineffective people believe they are. It is a nasty word to call a human being rubbish for their country since they can do and undo just as the educated can do and undo in their own part and experience.
Yeah any citizen can be useful for the country, poor people will eat trash since they don't have any money, this will make them sick and cause serious illness, that force them come to hospital. As we're know you're need money to pay the hospital bills, you're poor and you want to be cured, this will force you to give your money to them and make you become more poor.

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August 04, 2023, 08:20:12 AM
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Is there an effect both positive or negative to the county's economy when couples have plenty children?

In the past before the current economic era, around the 15th century and the beginning of the French industrial revolution, having many children was seen as fertility and good for both the family work force and country's also. The labour force was majorly manual and those who worked at the plantations were sort after as able bodied men or women.

But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.
There are positive and negative influences, having many will greatly affect the economy of an area with population growth, of course it has a positive effect on the economy if it is balanced with balanced economic growth but it will be the other way around if an area is not ready for it, neglected public services and other things other.

I think the number of children or an increase in population growth does not always affect per capita income, because with population growth it is possible to increase employment opportunities and it is also possible that a country or region will continue to progress.

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August 05, 2023, 04:09:51 AM
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Is there an effect both positive or negative to the county's economy when couples have plenty children?

In the past before the current economic era, around the 15th century and the beginning of the French industrial revolution, having many children was seen as fertility and good for both the family work force and country's also. The labour force was majorly manual and those who worked at the plantations were sort after as able bodied men or women.

But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.
There are positive and negative influences, having many will greatly affect the economy of an area with population growth, of course it has a positive effect on the economy if it is balanced with balanced economic growth but it will be the other way around if an area is not ready for it, neglected public services and other things other.

I think the number of children or an increase in population growth does not always affect per capita income, because with population growth it is possible to increase employment opportunities and it is also possible that a country or region will continue to progress.
Like always there is not a definite answer to this, a growing population can be a very nice bonus if the government in turn knows how to take advantage of it, as a great number of births eventually reduces the average age of the population and eventually it will mean a lot of workers which will bring the economy forward, but we must also remember that down the line those people will eventually become old and they will not be as productive as they were and the next generation will have to replace them, and if this does not happen then this could become a very negative factor for the growth of the economy of that country.



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August 05, 2023, 05:31:09 AM
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If a child receives inadequate education and lacks sufficient family support, the likelihood of them becoming ordinary workers in adulthood increases. Consequently, this situation contributes to a decline in the country's per capita income, as the population grows, automatically lowering the average income.

As long as the government fails to offer viable solutions to help people escape poverty, it is understandable that some individuals resort to having more children. Parents, with a glimmer of hope, aspire to witness their offspring flourish and succeed in their careers or entrepreneurial endeavors. They hold onto the belief that having more children may yield brighter prospects.

From a governmental standpoint, addressing the need to provide sustenance to the populace becomes an additional responsibility. This necessitates careful deliberation by the authorities, whether to empower local labor or resort to importing goods from other countries.
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August 05, 2023, 06:28:21 AM
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Traditionally here in our country couples are encouraged to have as many children as they can, so they have children to take care of them when they get old, this is the reason why we have a population explosion and since we are in a third-world country where there's too much corruption, inflation is too high and there's scarcity of jobs and per capita income cannot sustain a big family, it's not logical to have a big family anymore.

Having a big family is only good if the economy of one's country is good but if the economy is struggling the head of the family will also struggle to sustain it, it's hard to sustain a family of 6 here in our country if you are only a minimum earner of $11.02.
What we need at the moment is certainly not the traditional means as we are not living anymore in stone age but we have to adjust to the present computer age in which most countries are using high technology methods and equipments yet its own country’s economy is taking downturn. With that, having many children is not advisable anymore as it could only mean forcing them to live a low quality life because of the current economy situation. While its work or labor may increase but it’s consumption will also increase too so there will be shortage of production. Thus, poverty will be more inevitable which I think the number one factor that could affect the growth of country’s economy.
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August 05, 2023, 06:44:49 AM
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Is there an effect both positive or negative to the county's economy when couples have plenty children?

In the past before the current economic era, around the 15th century and the beginning of the French industrial revolution, having many children was seen as fertility and good for both the family work force and country's also. The labour force was majorly manual and those who worked at the plantations were sort after as able bodied men or women.

But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.
It will be an encouragement in life when a couple has many children from their marriage.
I see the same views around the 15th century, namely evidence of fertility that has a positive impact on families and countries.

Having many children for me will not interfere with the economic factors of a country because since I know the world with more critical thinking skills, the state does not take care of it 100%. Families of couples who have many children are looking for their own income which is far from available employment or provided by the state.
From the effort to earn money by the head of the family by farming, going to sea they can provide food and provide formal education to their children.

Later, when children start to think about how to help earn income, they will get used to being independent and can continue their education to a higher level.
This is the reality that happened that I found. So, don't think that having many children for a couple will not burden a country.

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August 05, 2023, 06:50:02 AM
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Is there an effect both positive or negative to the county's economy when couples have plenty children?

In the past before the current economic era, around the 15th century and the beginning of the French industrial revolution, having many children was seen as fertility and good for both the family work force and country's also. The labour force was majorly manual and those who worked at the plantations were sort after as able bodied men or women.

But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.

I mean having children have both bad and good effect on the economy on the economy, but I guess it is all going to depend on you. recently I encounter a video about how the population of Japan is decreasing by a huge percentage per year as most of the people there are old, a lot of people doesnt want to have children, and that just affecting the economy of Japan according to the video. if japan is not going to do something about it the country japan could just disappear in the future.

For sure having a big population is going to be a big help to the economy that just means it will increase the demand, more businesses are going to be created, services something like that. There were also going to be a lot of people that can be hired for a job for a company that could also help the economy. Meaning in increasing the manpower of a country or an economy. At the same time having plenty of children just mean you need to sustain all of there needs so it would just depend on if you can sustain them having a lot of children but not being capable of could just lead to difficult times. Also, it could affect if your country was not big enough to hold a big population just imagine if all of the people around the world are just going to stay in Japan or something like that.

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August 05, 2023, 08:44:43 AM
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Is there an effect both positive or negative to the county's economy when couples have plenty children?

As you said at the end of the post, immediate effect is spending - more spending goes toward the trial, more work output required to meet that expense.
The positive effect on the economy comes later on in life when they are able to start working, unless there are not enough employment opportunities or how the children were raised causes complications with employment.

In the past before the current economic era, around the 15th century and the beginning of the French industrial revolution, having many children was seen as fertility and good for both the family work force and country's also. The labour force was majorly manual and those who worked at the plantations were sort after as able bodied men or women.

Much different time era...the fact that fertility was considered good not for love, legacy or family reasons, but for an economy purpose, says enough about that time. People were slaves...we still are now in a more modern way, but not in a way where we are looking to populate for more workforce, lol.

But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.

For the average person in the global economy today, I'd say a child would be a challenge to say the least. If you are wealthy, maybe it's a different story. Though this is a much smaller class of people in comparison to average, or poor.
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August 05, 2023, 10:44:40 AM
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To hard to get a lot of children with current economic state of the world where everything is unsure even if we have stable job. We might struggle if we are affected by crisis since we might fall down and struggle, so best to have less children so that we can still work without getting any worried since responsibility is less. If we are productive for sure we can assure that we can give our children a better future and if they became professionals then they can contribute well to the economy.

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August 05, 2023, 10:47:26 AM
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Is there an effect both positive or negative to the county's economy when couples have plenty children?

In the past before the current economic era, around the 15th century and the beginning of the French industrial revolution, having many children was seen as fertility and good for both the family work force and country's also. The labour force was majorly manual and those who worked at the plantations were sort after as able bodied men or women.

But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.

It is always better to have a small family as it is easier to caretake and provide. In third-world countries, the population is growing exponentially because the people there think that if they have more earning heads they will be flourished, hence an increase in population. But, this growth rate will cause a burden on the economy as they will not have facilities like health, education, food etc.

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August 05, 2023, 10:48:39 AM
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Is there an effect both positive or negative to the county's economy when couples have plenty children?

In the past before the current economic era, around the 15th century and the beginning of the French industrial revolution, having many children was seen as fertility and good for both the family work force and country's also. The labour force was majorly manual and those who worked at the plantations were sort after as able bodied men or women.

But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.

I mean having children have both bad and good effect on the economy on the economy, but I guess it is all going to depend on you. recently I encounter a video about how the population of Japan is decreasing by a huge percentage per year as most of the people there are old, a lot of people doesnt want to have children, and that just affecting the economy of Japan according to the video. if japan is not going to do something about it the country japan could just disappear in the future.

For sure having a big population is going to be a big help to the economy that just means it will increase the demand, more businesses are going to be created, services something like that. There were also going to be a lot of people that can be hired for a job for a company that could also help the economy. Meaning in increasing the manpower of a country or an economy. At the same time having plenty of children just mean you need to sustain all of there needs so it would just depend on if you can sustain them having a lot of children but not being capable of could just lead to difficult times. Also, it could affect if your country was not big enough to hold a big population just imagine if all of the people around the world are just going to stay in Japan or something like that.

You are right with what is happening in Japan, the Japanese government even encourages young people to get married and have children. The fact that young Japanese people work hard and prefer to be single is a problem that has been warned by the Japanese government for many years because it will really affect the future of the whole country.

Everything has its two sides, but in general for the whole world, spawning too quickly will be bad for our planet's ecology. We will have a hard time meeting everyone's needs. And the over-exploitation of forests, exploitation of natural resources, research and exploration of the earth... all just to satisfy the desires and needs of mankind. But this is destabilizing the earth and we can also see the impact in recent years. Global warming, natural disasters, floods, earthquakes are happening more and more. That is really alarming.

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August 05, 2023, 01:44:20 PM
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it certainly depends on the need for a young population in the country you live in. if your country doesn't already need it, it will lead to unemployment, reduced income and an increase in crime. in countries with a large elderly population and a small youth population, this is a need, and when your country cannot meet this need on its own, you will have to demand qualified young immigrants, which has its dangers. after a certain limit, immigrants endanger the demographic structure of your country and a culture of grouping arises. it is vital to establish such balances well.
The best approach to successful handle this is to try a fair balance of the economy's population. When an economy is over populated by elderly people, the man power and labour force of the economy will obviously decline. In the other hand, when a particular country is over populated by younger people, there will be availability of labour but then there will be increase in fraud and other kinds of crime.

Trying to attain balance is the solution. The activeness of the government in making human friendly laws that are implementable will foster this. When there are much immigrant that indigenes, there will obviously be mix of cultures and one of the cultures will easily be obsoleted.

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August 05, 2023, 02:57:53 PM
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However, if these children were born from a well off family and for sure they will get good education, then they can be assets to the country especially in promoting growth and prosperity of a country’s economy.

This is not in every situation. There have been children from average or poor homes who have done well in their endeavors, it depends on the support and help that the government give to her citizens. Like some government give scholarships to students that covers their education to whatever level they choose to and that makes the student freely choose a discipline of their choice and they do well to contribute to the government of their country. This is especially if the scholarship is for the less privileged in the society.
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Is there an effect both positive or negative to the county's economy when couples have plenty children?

In the past before the current economic era, around the 15th century and the beginning of the French industrial revolution, having many children was seen as fertility and good for both the family work force and country's also. The labour force was majorly manual and those who worked at the plantations were sort after as able bodied men or women.

But at the moment, what is the viability of having many children especially as it could reduce the per capital income.
To be honest, seeing the economic situations and increasing inflation all around the world, a couple would hardly prefer having more than 2 or 3 children since it becomes a challenge to sustain a proper livelihood for all of them as the expenses are always on a rise and someone who isn't rich and only earns a fixed salary that isn't much would think twice before planning another child. So before thinking about the economy of the country, one would probably think about their own condition and position in life.

It also depends on the country, there are countries where there is a lot of manual labor and they are always in need of workers in almost every sector. In such countries, having many children can be beneficial for the country as they won't need to import workers from foreign countries. But, if you live in a country where things are mostly automated, and there are more jobs than workers willing to work, a family doesn't need to have a lot of children.

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However, if these children were born from a well off family and for sure they will get good education, then they can be assets to the country especially in promoting growth and prosperity of a country’s economy.

This is not in every situation. There have been children from average or poor homes who have done well in their endeavors, it depends on the support and help that the government give to her citizens. Like some government give scholarships to students that covers their education to whatever level they choose to and that makes the student freely choose a discipline of their choice and they do well to contribute to the government of their country. This is especially if the scholarship is for the less privileged in the society.

Exactly, it depends on the government support for anyone who's planning to start a family, imagine in other countries when you are having a baby they will give you incentives that the government would pay for all your expenses in your healthcare. Isn't nice? The tax that you are paying as citizen is coming back right at you as a positive. Where most of the country couldn't even feel the support of any of their government not only in planning a family but also in any other issues. Second is the family support of course as a parent you are responsible for having a child as you provide all of their needs. You don't only need to rely on the support of the government but also having a stable financial status. So in short, such scholarship could be a bonus to them if the parents are responsible.

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August 05, 2023, 07:14:32 PM
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If the couple are contributing to the economy by paying taxes & maybe are hoke owners, i.e. paying a mortgage then the couple are doing just fine. The problems arise if the couple aren’t working & are taking welfare cheques or living in government issue housing. The rule of the story is, don’t have too many kids if you can’t afford to feed them. Hopefully the hypothetical couple send their kids to good schools so they can grow up, get good jobs & also contribute to the economy, keeping the cycle going.
I think that all people are contributing to the economy even in other things and not only through tax but I think tax isn't inevitable. it is always there like if we purchase a simple product. If the couple aren't working, how will they live? The government can provide a help but I think it's situational like if there is a typhoon.

It's kind an inappropriate if all will only depend on them but I agree on what you said about kids. Unfortunately, so many parents are still like that. They only care about their own happiness ( doing s*x with their partner without a protection ) and they still go even though they are already aging and they already have lots of children. I think being poor and uneducated also contributes to it.

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Having too many children has both good and bad effects, depending on which country you live in. Look at Japan, the number of elderly people in their country is increasing day by day due to the alarming decline in the birth rate and it is also affecting their job sector as they have a shortage of qualified youth. So now Japan is also becoming dependent on immigrants to fill their vacant job posts.

Other countries that have high birth rates are increasing the number of unemployed youth in their country because the government is not able to create enough job posts for them. So having too many children is not good, having too few is not good, a balanced birth rate is good for a country.

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August 06, 2023, 12:00:52 AM
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It depends on the citizen, if they're not educated and don't want to get paid with minimum or low salary, it will make the national economy decline since they're rubbish for the country.

If the citizen are educated and don't mind to get paid with minimum or low salary, it will make the national economy increase since they don't mind about the money, they're want to become loyal for the country.
Maybe you should use a better word than trash for the country.
I do not agree with your opinion, not all people who do not undergo formal education are not talented or have no skills.
Who doesn't care about money in this world? as well as people who are educated and don't mind being paid a low salary is impossible in my opinion.
If they are educated and have skills then of course they want a higher salary.


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