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September 14, 2023, 10:35:24 PM
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In general, real estate is the first choice, including me too, but indeed we have to take it into account, even though there is almost no risk to it, but as you said, it is also a risk for real estate. I imagine that once I have sufficient real estate investment, then bitcoin and business will become the second choice, because by having real estate in several places of course we can also do business from that scope because for example if we rent it out it will also make money, while bitcoin is an option for long term and if mana makes amazing profits from bitcoin, then I will return to investing in real estate

It is probably because you have the funds to buy real estate.  I would rather cryptocurrency because it has a low entry point.  In cryptocurrency, I can enter with as low as $10  while in Real estate and business, our $10 will go nowhere.  We might be even laughed at by the agent if they learned that we are only capable of $10 investment but it is good enough as a starter in cryptocurrency.

I have bought a property with my earnings and now it is still idle, while I am paying for its annual tax.  It is more of a liability to me since I am keep on spending while there is no inflow of money from it.
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September 14, 2023, 10:53:50 PM
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Everything that increases is also accompanied by an increase in goods and that's inflation. That's why the value of those assets is also increasing based on the market value of those and they can't just stay forever at those prices and that's how the real estate market works.
While cryptos are also like that to be specific with Bitcoin, it is also increasing but we're seeing how balanced it is when it dumps. Those who don't believe in it are going to choose traditional assets like real estate and there is nothing wrong with that. Owning a business and having bitcoin on your investments are the two riskier choice than of buying real estate.
But when we look at the level of return that can occur on crypto assets and Bitcoin, it is also very balanced with the level of risk we bear. So people who prefer to invest in crypto assets such as Bitcoin are also not choosing the wrong thing even though they are also very familiar with real estate investment which can also bring profits when prices increase over time. Or when it is influenced by the effects of inflation, as has happened this year, so these two options are actually not wrong if you want to use it as an investment.
Yes, the risk that it has for being volatile is also balanced. Just like the saying that we know about pain and gain, it's totally a balanced thing. That's why we in this market understands the other assets that we can choose and also think what's best option for us. We can diversify without having trouble as we do understand that these sets of options can work well with us. Having that dream property which you decide to live on it or have it rented while owning some bitcoin waiting for the right time to sell and the same goes for managing a business.

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September 14, 2023, 11:47:01 PM
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Yes, it is true that choosing Real Estate must be based on many considerations. If it's a comfortable area like in a tropical country like my country, Indonesia. So choosing Real Estate is something that many people dream of owning. Because prices continue to rise from year to year. Because the security here is also pretty good. The scenery is also very beautiful. and people are also very friendly. But if it's in a country that is experiencing a moral crisis and war then I also won't choose Real Estate in a country like that. Especially when compared to Bitcoin then of course putting it in Bitcoin will be much better. Because even in some countries it turns out that their citizens save the value of their assets by converting to Bitcoin because of high inflation which makes their currency increasingly worthless.
In general, real estate is the first choice, including me too, but indeed we have to take it into account, even though there is almost no risk to it, but as you said, it is also a risk for real estate. I imagine that once I have sufficient real estate investment, then bitcoin and business will become the second choice, because by having real estate in several places of course we can also do business from that scope because for example if we rent it out it will also make money, while bitcoin is an option for long term and if mana makes amazing profits from bitcoin, then I will return to investing in real estate
It's the same with me who will also do the same thing as you do. Provided that our financial conditions support doing this and the geographical location of the Real Estate is also within a fairly strategic environment and has a potential future. Honestly investing in Real Estate and Bitcoin simultaneously is something we probably all want. But we also have to always remember that from Real Estate we may not be able to expect quick income. Because in reality investing in Real Estate takes longer to provide profits than Bitcoin. Well Bitcoin probably has a bull market every 5 years. But Real Estate just keeps raising its prices slowly over quite a long period of time. It will take up to 10 to 20 years before the price increase will be clear enough to see the benefits. But I also want to invest more in Real Estate if our financial condition allows.

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September 15, 2023, 12:22:25 AM
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In general, real estate is the first choice, including me too, but indeed we have to take it into account, even though there is almost no risk to it, but as you said, it is also a risk for real estate. I imagine that once I have sufficient real estate investment, then bitcoin and business will become the second choice, because by having real estate in several places of course we can also do business from that scope because for example if we rent it out it will also make money, while bitcoin is an option for long term and if mana makes amazing profits from bitcoin, then I will return to investing in real estate

It is probably because you have the funds to buy real estate.  I would rather cryptocurrency because it has a low entry point.  In cryptocurrency, I can enter with as low as $10  while in Real estate and business, our $10 will go nowhere.  We might be even laughed at by the agent if they learned that we are only capable of $10 investment but it is good enough as a starter in cryptocurrency.

I have bought a property with my earnings and now it is still idle, while I am paying for its annual tax.  It is more of a liability to me since I am keep on spending while there is no inflow of money from it.
the thing with property is that even though many think of it as some kind of investment, really its just liability, the buildings need maintenance, also taxes, even if we rent it out, big fat chance it will just generate some measly amount though it might be different for other people.
also really can relate with the fact that cryptocurrency only requires so low entry point, that it gives chance to quite literally anyone to start out unlike real estate property where you need to have certain amount of money, and sometimes even with massive money you'd still struggle since this market of real estate property only for those that are rich enough.

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September 17, 2023, 10:19:47 AM
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That's what I'm talking about. I'm not saying it from my personal experience, but not from from the movies or some stories on the internet either. A good friend of mine inherited $50k 10 years ago. He thought real estate would be the best investment. So he bought a house for the money, a nice house near the river that according to the agent should cost two times more in 10 years. And now it costs $20k max.
Both the real estate and farming businesses require fundamental knowledge. These are costly industries, and one must exercise caution when entering them. It's safe to say that land is indeed limited, and there's a consistent demand for homes every day because everyone needs a place to live.

However, many overlook the fact that there are numerous seasoned professionals with extensive experience, and they are your competitors even if you're a newbie. When it comes to money, there's no room for pity in the business world. So, it's actually not easy to dive into the real estate world without sufficient experience.

Bitcoin offers another long-term opportunity, and you can choose to incorporate it alongside your primary business.

What? No. The percentage of earth that is inhabited is approximately 10%. Overpopulation is a myth from the 19th century. We are very far from the point when any land has a value because "everyone needs a place to live". Real estate brokers tell this myth to their clients to make them buy the land that is not as valuable as it appears. And then you end up in a situation like I described above.

I still think that Bitcoin is in more cases than not a better investment than real estate.

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September 17, 2023, 03:20:29 PM
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I will prioritize business. Building a business that we are good at can guarantee financial freedom. If the business we build is successful, we can get crypto and property too.

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September 17, 2023, 03:30:54 PM
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All of them could work, but in this case, I'll first go with bitcoin and business. I'll put half of it in bitcoin and use the other half for the business growth. I said that because, no matter what, there will come a time when you need cash. If you look at it, you can take it from the profit you make from the business, but you can't go and be selling the long-term investment you make because you need an important item. If you invest half of it in bitcoin for the long term, you can make a big profit for your future use for the business.
Money is another factor that would lead me to choose bitcoin and business. You can still use the profit from the two to purchase a quality apartment when the long-term return on your investment is significant.
I think what you thought was correct. Because if some money can be invested in some other business besides Bitcoin, it can save us from big danger. If there is a big danger, we can get rid of the danger with this business money. And we can keep the money that will be invested in Bitcoin as a deposit. If we think like this, it will help us to earn a lot of money and do good work.

An advantage of investing in Bitcoin is that full assets can be sold at any time in an emergency.  There are billions of dollars of liquidity always available for Bitcoin.  And if one sets up a business, one cannot quickly sell the whole company at once. It is possible to make huge profit through business which can be more than bitcoin profit but not everyone can be successful in a business but anyone can invest in bitcoin and make profit without any trouble. And it is not possible to manage the business alone but a single person can invest in Bitcoin and profit easily.
If you invest in Bitcoin, you can withdraw money as you need, but if that money is invested in any other business, then it is not possible to withdraw that money, so investing in Bitcoin in this aspect is somewhat positive. But I always think a physical business should be given more importance first. When a physical business is built, the trader can invest in cryptocurrencies along with the physical business. Once the physical business is established, a trader does not have to look back, he can earn a lot of money around his business, but investing in crypto platform is a little different. Investing in all these platforms always requires you to take risks. No matter how good the investment is, it can turn from good to bad at any time, so before investing in such a platform, you must plan and invest.
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What? No. The percentage of earth that is inhabited is approximately 10%. Overpopulation is a myth from the 19th century. We are very far from the point when any land has a value because "everyone needs a place to live". Real estate brokers tell this myth to their clients to make them buy the land that is not as valuable as it appears. And then you end up in a situation like I described above.

I still think that Bitcoin is in more cases than not a better investment than real estate.
No doubt with real estate brokers give unbelievable promising about their land or property will up drastically more than 100% few years later to make client believing with worth for investing in property. Actually all real estate broker are true depend many factor make some land or property have lower values in the future from difficult with bureaucratic process when selling property or real estate assets until geographic impact when government move their business activities to other place. Regarding with my country want move capital to other regions give bad impact for real estate in capital before have highest values will drop slowly in the future when new capital will ready for releasing.

I think more profitable when investing in Bitcoin than real estate or property without face difficult when selling bitcoin assets than time needed with real estate.

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September 18, 2023, 03:54:07 PM
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I will prioritize business. Building a business that we are good at can guarantee financial freedom. If the business we build is successful, we can get crypto and property too.

Well, in that case, I respect your choice, but maybe it depends on the situation. Just like in my experience, I bought a real-earth lot unit; it's not big, but somehow I have a liability that is paid monthly. I got it by doing at least some of my trading activity here in cryptocurrency.

Because if I am going to run a business, I will need at least one person to be hired to watch over and manage my small business.
That's why it's more convenient to do cryptocurrency right now than the traditional business we have.
It seems that what we think we can manage properly is what we should prioritize.


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September 18, 2023, 03:58:20 PM
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I have bought a property with my earnings and now it is still idle, while I am paying for its annual tax.  It is more of a liability to me since I am keep on spending while there is no inflow of money from it.


A house and mortgage are a liability for sure.   The land is the asset as it requires no upkeep but housing requires maintenance and insurance if nothing else.   You can only profit from this while operating some kind of business with those assets but there is a depreciation to almost any asset you will own and housing is no different hence its easily a liability to most people.
  There is a danger for some people in buying a house that is larger then they actually need, for people with the ability to rent and access that market successfully then its possibly profitable but there is no guarantee of success only risk and the possiblity of work resulting in profit.   Nothing is free, I think we all know that is the case.

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I have bought a property with my earnings and now it is still idle, while I am paying for its annual tax.  It is more of a liability to me since I am keep on spending while there is no inflow of money from it.
That's what will happen to properties that won't be used for rentals. They'll be parked and of no use as you'll be paying the yearly tax of it. However, you have to see the side of its appreciation.

So while it is parked, no cashflow is being produced. But, the value of it is increasing as that's the normal thing with lands that it appreciates also on a yearly basis.

And once you start to have it rented, you'll have two things there. Cash flow through rent and then its continuous appreciation.

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I will prioritize business. Building a business that we are good at can guarantee financial freedom. If the business we build is successful, we can get crypto and property too.
Choosing a business is also a pretty good choice if we really have skills that we can use in the business we want to build. Because this will increase the chances of success in running the business that we are going to run. Even though I didn't choose business. But I also understand that by building a business you can increase your chances of making bigger profits without having to wait a long time. This is different from Real Estate which takes time until we can make more money. Because it requires several process stages that must be passed before the real estate can finally produce results. But I personally chose Real Estate because maybe now I already have a job and income. So I still want to own Real Estate and then one day build a business on it. Like the accommodation business and so on which can bring me regular income.

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To begin with, a business is needed to provide an opportunity and a start for the business. I need to maintain liquidity, to invest in crypto and invest in real estate. Crypto and real estate investments can always yield good profits in the long term, provided you have taken the right position and can make logical decisions, away from emotional approaches. I focus more on my work, that is, I search for other opportunities and try to get ideas. When you do business, you create a system and get into flow, in a physical way, this is great for making people more motivated, waiting can sometimes be annoying for long-term gains.

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I will prioritize business. Building a business that we are good at can guarantee financial freedom. If the business we build is successful, we can get crypto and property too.
Choosing a business is also a pretty good choice if we really have skills that we can use in the business we want to build. Because this will increase the chances of success in running the business that we are going to run. Even though I didn't choose business. But I also understand that by building a business you can increase your chances of making bigger profits without having to wait a long time. This is different from Real Estate which takes time until we can make more money. Because it requires several process stages that must be passed before the real estate can finally produce results. But I personally chose Real Estate because maybe now I already have a job and income. So I still want to own Real Estate and then one day build a business on it. Like the accommodation business and so on which can bring me regular income.
You have a good take on this, well at least in my opinion. Your answer suggests that it is indeed true that the choice depends on our different situations. For example, as you stated you chose to do Real Estate since you already have a job which is a good source of income and you hope to build a business once you get a hand on a property you are hoping to invest in. In contrast, there are those who will choose Real Estate first as an investment and the profit they will get from there (although it might take a longer period of time) will be used to start a business. Lastly, I am sure that there is another case, those who have a job, a small business, and an investment in cryptocurrency who wish to use the profit they get (from their business) to invest in Real Estate.
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I will prioritize business. Building a business that we are good at can guarantee financial freedom. If the business we build is successful, we can get crypto and property too.
Choosing a business is also a pretty good choice if we really have skills that we can use in the business we want to build. Because this will increase the chances of success in running the business that we are going to run. Even though I didn't choose business. But I also understand that by building a business you can increase your chances of making bigger profits without having to wait a long time. This is different from Real Estate which takes time until we can make more money. Because it requires several process stages that must be passed before the real estate can finally produce results. But I personally chose Real Estate because maybe now I already have a job and income. So I still want to own Real Estate and then one day build a business on it. Like the accommodation business and so on which can bring me regular income.
You have a good take on this, well at least in my opinion. Your answer suggests that it is indeed true that the choice depends on our different situations. For example, as you stated you chose to do Real Estate since you already have a job which is a good source of income and you hope to build a business once you get a hand on a property you are hoping to invest in. In contrast, there are those who will choose Real Estate first as an investment and the profit they will get from there (although it might take a longer period of time) will be used to start a business. Lastly, I am sure that there is another case, those who have a job, a small business, and an investment in cryptocurrency who wish to use the profit they get (from their business) to invest in Real Estate.
Like you, there are many who appear willing to slowly go along, taking their time with real estate in order to wait for that one huge payoff. Others in the cryptocurrency, however, are jumping ahead and profiting in a matter of days rather than years like traditional real estate speculators might. Well, to each their own, I suppose. Who am I to criticize your preference for the painfully slow and the old-fashion? Of course, some people attempt to balance a job, a small business, cryptocurrency, and real estate. Greedy or just plain ambitious? In either case, they risk overstretching themselves if they're not careful. But, I'll give you a free hint right now: the future is crypto. You play Monopoly with real properties, and I ride the cryptocurrency wave. Catch me if you can

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I will prioritize business. Building a business that we are good at can guarantee financial freedom. If the business we build is successful, we can get crypto and property too.

I will say that same phenomenon is with bitcoin if you become successful in bitcoin investment then you can easily set a business with the money of your profit. Guaranteed is nothing in this universe neither crypto nor a business.

I will suggest that first of all learn about bitcoin and if you have no time to read about bitcoin then just hold it for longer time and investigate about price when you have some profit then utilize that profit in setting a business and continue your investment also.

In such condition will take benefit from both opportunities if you work properly for it because sometimes success is also correlated with a person interest and job both.









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September 19, 2023, 06:46:59 AM
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I will prioritize business. Building a business that we are good at can guarantee financial freedom. If the business we build is successful, we can get crypto and property too.

I will say that same phenomenon is with bitcoin if you become successful in bitcoin investment then you can easily set a business with the money of your profit. Guaranteed is nothing in this universe neither crypto nor a business.

I will suggest that first of all learn about bitcoin and if you have no time to read about bitcoin then just hold it for longer time and investigate about price when you have some profit then utilize that profit in setting a business and continue your investment also.

In such condition will take benefit from both opportunities if you work properly for it because sometimes success is also correlated with a person interest and job both.
In my opinion, both are the same, it depends on ourselves in carrying it out to take advantage and if it is successful other things can follow.
It all depends on the skills we have, I think if there is a profitable business path that we have mastered then that is better and vice versa, when we understand and understand Bitcoin investment then it is also a good choice to build assets and also make a profit as much as possible to be able to create other sources of income.
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To begin with, a business is needed to provide an opportunity and a start for the business. I need to maintain liquidity, to invest in crypto and invest in real estate. Crypto and real estate investments can always yield good profits in the long term, provided you have taken the right position and can make logical decisions, away from emotional approaches. I focus more on my work, that is, I search for other opportunities and try to get ideas. When you do business, you create a system and get into flow, in a physical way, this is great for making people more motivated, waiting can sometimes be annoying for long-term gains.

Each of us has a different technique or way of making money that makes us feel comfortable; some people want to establish a small business, other people want cryptocurrencies, and some people want real estate. If we are being realistic, we will undoubtedly begin with a modest sum of money, but in the long run, we may be able to earn a sizable sum.

And I can see this in the bitcoin market right now, as well as in some local traditional businesses. But even if I had to choose between the two, launching a small business would be more difficult than it is in the crypto industry. I'm basing this on my own experience. Of course, I also noticed the advantages and disadvantages.

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I will prioritize business. Building a business that we are good at can guarantee financial freedom. If the business we build is successful, we can get crypto and property too.

I will say that same phenomenon is with bitcoin if you become successful in bitcoin investment then you can easily set a business with the money of your profit. Guaranteed is nothing in this universe neither crypto nor a business.

I will suggest that first of all learn about bitcoin and if you have no time to read about bitcoin then just hold it for longer time and investigate about price when you have some profit then utilize that profit in setting a business and continue your investment also.

In such condition will take benefit from both opportunities if you work properly for it because sometimes success is also correlated with a person interest and job both.
In my opinion, both are the same, it depends on ourselves in carrying it out to take advantage and if it is successful other things can follow.
It all depends on the skills we have, I think if there is a profitable business path that we have mastered then that is better and vice versa, when we understand and understand Bitcoin investment then it is also a good choice to build assets and also make a profit as much as possible to be able to create other sources of income.

But choose what give you high chance to gain since this comparison needs proper knowledge so if one person is knowledgeable about how real estate business works for sure he will choose that and the same with the other person who have wide knowledge about cryptocurrency then select this because he think that he's expert on this field. So try to check your knowledge on what is best for us since its not good to just guess that cryptocurrency is good because other say so or real estate is good because you can get passive income with this so check your skills and study the market because for sure you can figure out which of them is more profitable for us.

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September 19, 2023, 08:26:15 AM
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I skimmed through some posts from my friends, and I noticed that some of them prioritize Real Estate as their top choice.

How confident are you all in your real estate preference, especially those deeply immersed in crypto? The real estate business is teeming with ruthless competitors, some of whom might play dirty when they sense a potential disruptor.

In truth, excelling in any of these three options would be fantastic, but becoming a master in one field first is advisable. If you're already in the cryptocurrency realm, I believe becoming a cryptocurrency expert isn't a bad idea. As much as possible, you should grasp all the concepts within the cryptocurrency domain before venturing into other opportunities.

Learning something new always starts from scratch, whether it's in business or Real Estate. And when you're already halfway in the cryptocurrency field, it shouldn't take long before you can turn cryptocurrency into a passive income stream.
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