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October 24, 2023, 04:46:20 PM
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It's true that investing in Bitcoin is riskier than in real estate. But if we are of investing only what we can afford to lose, I would choose BTC still. Especially at this point, when Bitcoin costs 3 times less than not so long ago. We've been there, BTC was dropping from $20k to $3k, and then rising from there upwards to $70k some years  later. I don't think we can name areal estate that had risen so much in a relatively short period of time.
I agree with you. If you actually think critically about it, if you only have limited extra money as capital for investment it is best to choose Bitcoin. There are only a few good real estate investments that require small capital that falls within the good category that guarantees profit and these days the same goes for business. Hence, for small-time individuals who have a tight budget for investment capital and are not as knowledgeable regarding economics and the current state of the market, it is better to settle for BTC. Such a fact is one of the very reason as to why even students and middle-class individuals are drawn to BTC investments these days.

Yes, it's true, as you said, bitcoin reaches everyone. This is very different if you invest in real estate without including the costs of purchasing and real estate debt. These costs can include loan arrangement fees, interest paid to the bank, stamp duty, survey fees, home insurance, contents insurance, property tax, ongoing repairs and maintenance costs.

If you rent it out, you have to pay income tax plus you have to devote your own time to managing the property or pay someone to manage it for you. All of these costs can add up to hundreds of thousands over the life of your purchase and will eventually eat into capital gains. If you time the market poorly (e.g. buying high and selling low), you may not make as big a profit and at best the property will only be able to keep up with inflation.

People just see prices going up but don't really consider all the costs involved. If they run the numbers right, they will see that this is not a good investment and certainly not passive. Just buy Bitcoin and relax.   Wink
Although real estate has historically been regarded as a secure investment, it is not without its own set of difficulties and expenses... and boy, are there expenses! Loan costs, interest, stamp duty, repairs, insurance, and taxes - the list goes on and on. Not to mention the time and energy that will be wasted should you choose to rent it out. Managing properties? That's a full-time job in itself

Let us now discuss Bitcoin. It is the present moment and not the future. It is digital, decentralized, and global in scope. Absence of covert fees, physical maintenance, and property managers. Investment that is uncomplicated, plain, and pure. Individuals must enlighten themselves and recognize the broader context. Real estate possesses certain advantages; however, when all expenses are considered, the returns may not be as favorable as they initially appear. In contrast, Bitcoin presents a more efficient and, dare I say, unhurried approach to investment. Why then be complicated? Invest in Bitcoin and watch the magic unfold

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October 24, 2023, 09:32:06 PM
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My proposal for anyone looking to invest in or take advantage of the new prospects offered by this decentralized digital currency is to buy bitcoin. I'll start with that. This is due to the fact that, when compared to other cryptocurrencies that were found to be less up to this criteria, bitcoin offers the greatest profit potential as well as the essential control and privacy.
It is without a doubt that Bitcoin is the best choice on this market, the entire crypto market and there's no other crypto that's better than it. That has been proven for each year that passes by. Someone can disregard the attributes of it being decentralized and the privacy that it has, although there are other better projects in terms of privacy Bitcoin is like the flag bearer of them all and just start investing in it based on the research that has shown on its history for being a good store of value and can deal against inflation because of its deflationary factors like halving.

Although real estate has historically been regarded as a secure investment, it is not without its own set of difficulties and expenses... and boy, are there expenses! Loan costs, interest, stamp duty, repairs, insurance, and taxes - the list goes on and on. Not to mention the time and energy that will be wasted should you choose to rent it out. Managing properties? That's a full-time job in itself
That's true about real estate but when you're done with all and that, passive income is about to come when you get that property of your tenant. It's also a business and that's the cost and effort that you need to exert there just like any other business that you may establish.

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October 24, 2023, 09:43:49 PM
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It's true that investing in Bitcoin is riskier than in real estate. But if we are of investing only what we can afford to lose, I would choose BTC still. Especially at this point, when Bitcoin costs 3 times less than not so long ago. We've been there, BTC was dropping from $20k to $3k, and then rising from there upwards to $70k some years  later. I don't think we can name areal estate that had risen so much in a relatively short period of time.
I agree with you. If you actually think critically about it, if you only have limited extra money as capital for investment it is best to choose Bitcoin. There are only a few good real estate investments that require small capital that falls within the good category that guarantees profit and these days the same goes for business. Hence, for small-time individuals who have a tight budget for investment capital and are not as knowledgeable regarding economics and the current state of the market, it is better to settle for BTC. Such a fact is one of the very reason as to why even students and middle-class individuals are drawn to BTC investments these days.

Yes, it's true, as you said, bitcoin reaches everyone. This is very different if you invest in real estate without including the costs of purchasing and real estate debt. These costs can include loan arrangement fees, interest paid to the bank, stamp duty, survey fees, home insurance, contents insurance, property tax, ongoing repairs and maintenance costs.

If you rent it out, you have to pay income tax plus you have to devote your own time to managing the property or pay someone to manage it for you. All of these costs can add up to hundreds of thousands over the life of your purchase and will eventually eat into capital gains. If you time the market poorly (e.g. buying high and selling low), you may not make as big a profit and at best the property will only be able to keep up with inflation.

People just see prices going up but don't really consider all the costs involved. If they run the numbers right, they will see that this is not a good investment and certainly not passive. Just buy Bitcoin and relax.   Wink
Although real estate has historically been regarded as a secure investment, it is not without its own set of difficulties and expenses... and boy, are there expenses! Loan costs, interest, stamp duty, repairs, insurance, and taxes - the list goes on and on. Not to mention the time and energy that will be wasted should you choose to rent it out. Managing properties? That's a full-time job in itself

Let us now discuss Bitcoin. It is the present moment and not the future. It is digital, decentralized, and global in scope. Absence of covert fees, physical maintenance, and property managers. Investment that is uncomplicated, plain, and pure. Individuals must enlighten themselves and recognize the broader context. Real estate possesses certain advantages; however, when all expenses are considered, the returns may not be as favorable as they initially appear. In contrast, Bitcoin presents a more efficient and, dare I say, unhurried approach to investment. Why then be complicated? Invest in Bitcoin and watch the magic unfold
When it comes to properties then it would really be having those taxes and other correlated things similar to it but on the amount that we are speaking then it isnt something that significant that it could really bothering you.It do really just turns out that you would really be needing to allocate time for you to be able to handle up things accordingly or would be able to clear up those things and the fact that it is done yearly or quarterly on which means that it isnt really needing that much extreme effort for you to be able to do such thing. Benefits and advantages does really outweighs the cons or the hassle in some corners on which
this is why it cant really be avoided that this would really be the best choice of many.

It is really just that real estate is really that an expensive business or property to have, not all would really be having that kind of financial capacity on owning one and this is why
tons of people would really be skipping out orwould really be having that missed opportunity.

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October 25, 2023, 04:30:09 AM
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Both businesses are good here and will generally depend on the individual's ability and skills required. Real estate is a more stable and predictable option that offers many tax benefits while cryptocurrencies offer high return potential but also carry significant risks so the risks must be considered moving forward. Bitcoin represents an exciting chapter in the cryptocurrency world offering the potential for innovation inclusion and growth. As we approach 2024 the cryptocurrency market is showing signs of recovery and bitcoin is poised to play an important role in shaping its trajectory.
Real estate, Cryptocurrency and Business actually both have their own levels of risk and profit potential, so everyone can choose them by adapting them to their own abilities and tastes. Because if you want something more stable with a level of risk that is not so great, of course the choice is towards real estate, whereas for business I think the income and risks are still quite equal and not much different. Likewise with Cryptocurrencies where the potential for profit is always there and accompanied by potential risks which will never disappear even though the rate of return is also very large if the choice is directed towards Bitcoin.


Totally agree. I think all of those mentioned are all risky and for me, the best choice would be the less risky out of all those three.
But it still depends on your experience and how much knowledge do you have. But if you are a beginner, your best pick would be having a business. Why did I tell so? because anyone can start their own business, and not everyone can do real estate and invest in cryptocurrencies if they do not have a wide understanding about these two. Most importantly, if you started with business, this could be a stepping stone for you to continue or to expand your source of income because all the things you have learn while establishing your business can be used when you want to pursue cryptocurrencies or real estate. So, it's like starting from the basic to complex, business-real estate-crypto.
But if you are someone who loves risks and thrills, your best choice would be cryptocurrencies. This is just my personal opinion.



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October 25, 2023, 06:00:27 AM
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For my own mind, I only have two plans here. According to my plan, the first thing I will do is go into business because if I do that and it goes well, I will be able to accomplish the other two. Business is crucial for every person because if you have money to invest, business is something you set up and after selling your products, you will make money from it. Although real estate and cryptocurrencies are additional sources of income, businesses are different because they generate income on a daily basis as opposed to these other sources of income. Additionally, once your company has been established in a favourable location and environment, you will even forget about these other sources of income.

The second plan is cryptocurrency, which is much better for me than real estate after doing business and believing that I am now capable of investing in it. If you're a businessperson, you should keep in mind that you should not only conduct business but also get involved in activities that will help your business grow. If a businessperson invests in bitcoin and it later performs as expected, that person will realise that bitcoin is a very good investment, but you should also plan ahead for what you will be bringing to the table before engaging in bitcoin-related activities.

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October 25, 2023, 06:42:47 AM
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I consider both Real estate and cryptocurrencies businesses lucrative enough to invest in. However, I have a formula when it comes to investing in them.

The both of them are businesses that rakes in money but one is within your control and the other is not, so what I do is, I invest in crypto and wait for the dividends and when it comes up I stroll into the Real estate wing of business and invest there. Since crypto sometimes goes on a lengthy bearish period, it is also pertinent to note that profits might not turn up for that lengthy period, so that Real estate business covers for the era of non returns in the crypto space and by that way I'm never in lack.


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October 25, 2023, 08:51:23 AM
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I consider both Real estate and cryptocurrencies businesses lucrative enough to invest in. However, I have a formula when it comes to investing in them.

The both of them are businesses that rakes in money but one is within your control and the other is not, so what I do is, I invest in crypto and wait for the dividends and when it comes up I stroll into the Real estate wing of business and invest there. Since crypto sometimes goes on a lengthy bearish period, it is also pertinent to note that profits might not turn up for that lengthy period, so that Real estate business covers for the era of non returns in the crypto space and by that way I'm never in lack.


Once i do have that enough capital then i would be focusing on Real Estates.

Real Estate ->Profit-> Divide -> Monthly amortization if not paid full/the rest invest on crypto
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Profit -> Build some business ->2 profit sources -> Rinse and Repeat
and then this is the time you would really be considering on investing into crypto.

Diversify as much as possible yet this would really be that the best way on building your empire. Dont rush up and take the slow pace until you would really be making it big.
The most common mistake of investors is that the they do become that careless when it comes on planning on things. They would really be taking up the fastest way as possible
and this is where it do really differentiate in between to those who are really that serious and to those who are reckless.

No matter what things you do plan then it would really be always for the better and something that do talks about making money with those businesses or whatever it would be
including crypto but risks would really be that always be there or attached to it.

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October 25, 2023, 09:05:29 AM
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And I personally prefer to say that it depends on the type of ROI you are targeting, as both are good investments when done correctly and wisely.
Because the best investment for us will depend on our personal financial situation, goals and risk tolerance. And it is best to study and also understand the risks involved in both to choose the one that can generate good income or profits to make investments in other fields.
Since we are in this industry, maybe the best choice is to focus on crypto, especially Bitcoin and how to get good profits with existing capital, because if we went straight into the real estate business it would definitely require a lot of capital.
So we have to look for ways to make the capital we have grow or work and maybe invest in crypto, especially Bitcoin. Do it for the long term to get maximum profits and with that we can do real estate business, and do both well then you can make real estate a passive income because you can rent it out to earn income every month. And keep investing in Bitcoin for the long term and you can also run a DCA strategy from rental income.

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October 25, 2023, 10:46:12 AM
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I consider both Real estate and cryptocurrencies businesses lucrative enough to invest in. However, I have a formula when it comes to investing in them.

The both of them are businesses that rakes in money but one is within your control and the other is not, so what I do is, I invest in crypto and wait for the dividends and when it comes up I stroll into the Real estate wing of business and invest there. Since crypto sometimes goes on a lengthy bearish period, it is also pertinent to note that profits might not turn up for that lengthy period, so that Real estate business covers for the era of non returns in the crypto space and by that way I'm never in lack.
In reality, I personally still prioritize crypto and hope that one day I will get maximum profits that will make it possible for me to enter Real Estate investment in the end. Because owning a lot of Real Estate seems like it would be really fun. I imagine all the real estate that I own also provides me with passive income. Apart from that, real estate prices continue to rise and we also make money from the use of real estate itself. Wouldn't that bring me closer to financial freedom? But for now Crypto is more realistic.

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October 25, 2023, 02:04:32 PM
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I consider both Real estate and cryptocurrencies businesses lucrative enough to invest in. However, I have a formula when it comes to investing in them.

The both of them are businesses that rakes in money but one is within your control and the other is not, so what I do is, I invest in crypto and wait for the dividends and when it comes up I stroll into the Real estate wing of business and invest there. Since crypto sometimes goes on a lengthy bearish period, it is also pertinent to note that profits might not turn up for that lengthy period, so that Real estate business covers for the era of non returns in the crypto space and by that way I'm never in lack.
In reality, I personally still prioritize crypto and hope that one day I will get maximum profits that will make it possible for me to enter Real Estate investment in the end. Because owning a lot of Real Estate seems like it would be really fun. I imagine all the real estate that I own also provides me with passive income. Apart from that, real estate prices continue to rise and we also make money from the use of real estate itself. Wouldn't that bring me closer to financial freedom? But for now Crypto is more realistic.
Crypto can make maximum profit but it has high risk but Real Estate has low risk on the other hand business has risk but if you can established your business then it will be a regular source of income and after you die your next generation will get a great life. and they can manage it and lead a good life. So the most priority should be given to business. Crypto is an easy income path as it requires only patience after investment. But making a business stable requires a lot of hard work along with high investment. So in my opinion crypto should be the 2nd choice with business first priority

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It depends on your knowledge, expertise and passion. If you are doing business and doing well then there is no point in looking for ways of generating money in crypto. Why take a risk on something you don't have passion for or knowledge about?

But if you are looking for an option to get rid of inflation then it is advisable to gain knowledge about crypto as i think bitcoin is better than gold in terms of fighting inflation. Don't be like those guys who watch a video about dogecoin and start investing in it without any justification. You should learn about where you are putting your money and whether the associated risk is bearable for you or not.

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Totally agree. I think all of those mentioned are all risky and for me, the best choice would be the less risky out of all those three.
But it still depends on your experience and how much knowledge do you have. But if you are a beginner, your best pick would be having a business. Why did I tell so? because anyone can start their own business, and not everyone can do real estate and invest in cryptocurrencies if they do not have a wide understanding about these two. Most importantly, if you started with business, this could be a stepping stone for you to continue or to expand your source of income because all the things you have learn while establishing your business can be used when you want to pursue cryptocurrencies or real estate. So, it's like starting from the basic to complex, business-real estate-crypto.
But if you are someone who loves risks and thrills, your best choice would be cryptocurrencies. This is just my personal opinion.
I also think your opinion is a very good option, because when someone wants to start one of the three options only with not too much experience. So it would be very wise if he chooses to set up his own business while deepening knowledge for his own business and the income from the business can also be used for crypto and real estate when he feels a little prosperity in his life from the business income. So a flow like that will really help everyone in carrying out all three of the options that are quite appropriate for everyone, namely doing business.

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October 27, 2023, 11:57:16 AM
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I will go into business and grow my capital from the proceeds of the business over time I will buy a house and crypto currencies. Business will open more opportunities for you as you will meet new people and establish connections. If go into a particular business and I noticed that there is a change in demand of that particular business I can easily divert to another line of business. But in real estate such a thing is not possible. For instance let's assume you go into a real estate, you just finished construction and there is a natural disaster or crisis in that particular region this will affect the investment and you know real estates are not mobile. Also real estate takes time before it starts generating profits, while business generates profits immediately it starts running. Crypto currencies requires an indebt knowledge and patience to succeed in it and you and I know that with one single wrong call we get liquidated easily. 

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Let's imagine that you have half a million US-Dollar/Euro/GBP and want to feel financially safe and build a better future.
1. Real estate - It's probably one of the safest investment option out there. Inflation rises, rent and apartment prices rise too, if inflation turns into deflation, your rent/apartment price still remains the same. With half a million, you can buy two or more good apartments in eastern Europe and live on your rent income.

2. Cryptocurrencies are very volatile but rewarding. If you have a discipline and don't let your emotions take control over your decisions, then you can probably grow your capital by 200-500% a year. At least I think so, I think that's possible if one spends most of his time on exchanges and if necessary, spends some nights. So, crypto is very volatile and rewarding but another problem here is that you are dependent on exchanges, what will you do if they don't let you withdraw? Another problem is that you have to take care of your coins because once they are gone, they are gone forever.

3. Business - It's like an income generated by Proof Of Work algorithm. Depends on the business and the person, one can achieve a huge financial success and influence or a total failure. But a big and successful business can outperform real estate and crypto investments. To my mind, proof of work is the only thing that can deal with absolutely any kind of financial crisis and disasters.

Which one would you choose from these and why?

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I know most people would go for cryptocurrency because the topic is being asked in a cryptocurrency forum. In real life, most people will rather pick it. For me, I will rather diversify.

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Let's imagine that you have half a million US-Dollar/Euro/GBP and want to feel financially safe and build a better future.
1. Real estate - It's probably one of the safest investment option out there. Inflation rises, rent and apartment prices rise too, if inflation turns into deflation, your rent/apartment price still remains the same. With half a million, you can buy two or more good apartments in eastern Europe and live on your rent income.

2. Cryptocurrencies are very volatile but rewarding. If you have a discipline and don't let your emotions take control over your decisions, then you can probably grow your capital by 200-500% a year. At least I think so, I think that's possible if one spends most of his time on exchanges and if necessary, spends some nights. So, crypto is very volatile and rewarding but another problem here is that you are dependent on exchanges, what will you do if they don't let you withdraw? Another problem is that you have to take care of your coins because once they are gone, they are gone forever.

3. Business - It's like an income generated by Proof Of Work algorithm. Depends on the business and the person, one can achieve a huge financial success and influence or a total failure. But a big and successful business can outperform real estate and crypto investments. To my mind, proof of work is the only thing that can deal with absolutely any kind of financial crisis and disasters.

Which one would you choose from these and why?

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You can not grow at 500% a year.

Even 200% is hard.

year 0 = 1 dollar
year 1 = 3 dollars
year 2 = 9 dollars
year 3 = 27 dollars
year 4 = 81 dollars
year 5 = 243 dollars
year 6 = 729 dollars
year 7 = 2187 dollars.
year 8 = 6561 dollars. 
year 9 = 19683 dollars.   this would be 2018 if btc
year 10 = 58000+ dollars this would be 2019 if btc
year 11 = 174000+ dollars this would be 2020 if btc
year 12 = 520000+ dollars this would be 2021 if btc

it is pretty clear one  is making 200% a year for more than six or maybe more then seven years in a row.
Even my doge score 0.002 dollars to 0.20 dollars is only 100x my investment

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October 28, 2023, 09:38:21 PM
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I also think your opinion is a very good option, because when someone wants to start one of the three options only with not too much experience. So it would be very wise if he chooses to set up his own business while deepening knowledge for his own business and the income from the business can also be used for crypto and real estate when he feels a little prosperity in his life from the business income. So a flow like that will really help everyone in carrying out all three of the options that are quite appropriate for everyone, namely doing business.
If you want to build a new business, you must have the knowledge to set a business strategy and large funds to manage your business. If you build a business while deepening your knowledge, your business will need a long period of time to achieve success. I apply a different strategy in that condition, I will still allocate funds for crypto investment while running a business, because you don't need high funds to invest in crypto so you don't need to wait for your business to be successful, but running between business and investment will be better for the future .

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My choice will be Business at the first place, followed by cryptocurrency and the last will be on real estate. When we're into business we'll be much concentrated and we can grow ourselves. Here the work we do for some time period will keep our business going good for long term.

Cryptocurrency is highly volatile, however I've enjoyed the goodness and the market crash. This lets me do the best and make some earning out of it than relying over it completely.

Real estate is kind of business where we'll be able to make good profit in the short term. However the market depends upon the growth surrounding the property. This makes real estate an unpredictable market bearer and a riskier one.

The business is okay if you have a partner who will manage it. But if you're alone and don't have a partner, it's a bit difficult to do that. I currently only do cryptocurrency trading.

Although it's not easy to do because it also depends on market movement, somehow you get a profit, and it also depends on the crypto or bitcoin you trade. Of course, we need the source because of the expenses we have every day of our lives. Real estate is long-term, like bitcoin.



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October 29, 2023, 05:25:27 PM
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I also think your opinion is a very good option, because when someone wants to start one of the three options only with not too much experience. So it would be very wise if he chooses to set up his own business while deepening knowledge for his own business and the income from the business can also be used for crypto and real estate when he feels a little prosperity in his life from the business income. So a flow like that will really help everyone in carrying out all three of the options that are quite appropriate for everyone, namely doing business.
If you want to build a new business, you must have the knowledge to set a business strategy and large funds to manage your business. If you build a business while deepening your knowledge, your business will need a long period of time to achieve success. I apply a different strategy in that condition, I will still allocate funds for crypto investment while running a business, because you don't need high funds to invest in crypto so you don't need to wait for your business to be successful, but running between business and investment will be better for the future .
Building a business takes a long time with required effort and a huge budget. But if the business can be successful then the amount of revenue from here cannot be compared with anything. People running crypto projects are a business so why should we invest money in other's business and help others to grow their business where we can build our own business through hard work. Bitcoin is a decentralized coin that no one can control. Investments can be made here but we should always focus on building our own business. Then we can invest anywhere. But we want to live a lazy life which is why we are always looking for an easy source of income one solution of which is investment in Bitcoin he he

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Which one would you choose from these and why?
In fact, all the three things that you have mentioned have their own merits, although for me starting a business is more important among the three. Although it is a very long term plan but initially it can be started on a small scale by providing any service. I personally also prefer business start-up. As an example, Bitcoin is a great asset for the long term, and starting a business with hard work and ideas is the same for the long term. If you want to start a startup, initially the profit is not so much, but later the long-term profit is huge.
And the other two things mentioned Real estate, cryptocurrencies can be invested in these two at any time, moreover, real estate is also a type of business. If we talk about cryptocurrencies, then at any time, starting from a small investment to a large investment, it can be done in addition to doing business. So I will give preference to doing business among these three options.

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October 29, 2023, 10:39:17 PM
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People running crypto projects are a business so why should we invest money in other's business and help others to grow their business where we can build our own business through hard work.
You're an investor when you invest money in other's businesses whether it's a crypto-related business/project or not. The thing with this kind of setup is that you're not stressed at all, you just invest money and wait for the project to get success. But just like making a business, being an investor is also a hard thing to think of. But if you think that you better make your own business, you need to exert all the effort and money on it unlike becoming an investor. Warren Buffett is one of the best investors in the world although he's got his own company that invests also in other businesses, that's what makes it good for someone who's an investor. No debate intended as we know that he hates Bitcoin but that doesn't make me hate him for all of his achievements that he's got. So, with this matter. You invest and you save time while the owners of the business where you invest are working hardly for you to also make a profit out of it but if we're specific on crypto projects, just as the traditional businesses, they've got chance of failing.

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