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November 09, 2023, 08:13:18 PM |
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If Beşiktaş can't win today, they have no chance in the group, so they must get 3 points. Aboubakar was removed from the squad at the last minute due to his injury. Cenk Tosun will be in the striker position. Beşiktaş is the favorite at home, but they need to reflect this on the field. If Muleka and Rashica are effective, Beşiktaş's job will be easier. The stadium was not full, I wish it was a full stadium. Still, I think Beşiktaş will somehow win this match. Good luck to Black Eagles.
Considering the part of the match so far, Beşiktaş was very ineffective, especially despite playing at home, they accepted the superiority of Bodo Glimt in the match. Now the score is 2-0 and Moumbagna scored 2 goals. After this match, Beşiktaş's chance of leaving the group will disappear. This situation creates great sadness for Turkish fans who think that Beşiktaş will come out on top in the group. Now Tayfur Bingöl scored a goal and Beşiktaş will try to score 2 more goals to get back into the match. You know what they say "there is no need a guide if the village is seeing" . The opponent was in better condition than Beşiktaş. This made it easier for them to put pressure on Beşiktaş and to overcome the danger. Beşiktaş could have won this game if they had played a bit smarter, but unfortunately they had a poor final touch and they couldn't resist to Bodo's attack. I'm counting this season as a dead season for Beşiktaş and there is no hope for them.
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November 09, 2023, 10:44:44 PM |
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Beşiktaş and Fenerbahçe are playing tonight. Beşiktaş vs Bodo/Glimt Ludogorets Razgrad vs Fenerbahçe
Don't trust Beşiktaş, the game is in Istanbul but I think Bodo/Glimt is the favorite.
Fenerbahçe had a bad defeat last week but Fenerbahçe is the favorite in this game. I don't think he will have much difficulty, they will probably win 2-0.
Ludogorets lost 7-1 to Nordsjaelland in this group. They looked like a good team in the match against Fenerbahçe. They are a really interesting team. They are black one day and white the next. They are not in a gray area. On the other hand, Fenerbahçe lost to Trabzonspor last week after 19 wins in 19 games this season. They had a really fascinating streak. But they lost it. Djiku and Becao will not play in this match. They have problems in defense. Normally I would see them as the clear favorites for this match, but they have big problems in defense. If they get 1 point from this match I will consider them as a successful result. I thought the loss against Trabzonspor was just an outlier and they would be fully recovered by now and beat Ludogorets, but yes it looks like Ludogorets had an awful day against Nordsjaelland and their defense fell apart for some reason. In this game against Fenerbahce they were playing stable and had more chances and shots on target. I thought after the early goal in the first half that the game would be far from over, but they used their advantage for a final counter attack and sent Fenerbahce home with a loss.
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November 09, 2023, 11:44:40 PM |
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Beşiktaş and Fenerbahçe are playing tonight. Beşiktaş vs Bodo/Glimt Ludogorets Razgrad vs Fenerbahçe
Don't trust Beşiktaş, the game is in Istanbul but I think Bodo/Glimt is the favorite.
Fenerbahçe had a bad defeat last week but Fenerbahçe is the favorite in this game. I don't think he will have much difficulty, they will probably win 2-0.
Ludogorets lost 7-1 to Nordsjaelland in this group. They looked like a good team in the match against Fenerbahçe. They are a really interesting team. They are black one day and white the next. They are not in a gray area. On the other hand, Fenerbahçe lost to Trabzonspor last week after 19 wins in 19 games this season. They had a really fascinating streak. But they lost it. Djiku and Becao will not play in this match. They have problems in defense. Normally I would see them as the clear favorites for this match, but they have big problems in defense. If they get 1 point from this match I will consider them as a successful result. I thought the loss against Trabzonspor was just an outlier and they would be fully recovered by now and beat Ludogorets, but yes it looks like Ludogorets had an awful day against Nordsjaelland and their defense fell apart for some reason. In this game against Fenerbahce they were playing stable and had more chances and shots on target. I thought after the early goal in the first half that the game would be far from over, but they used their advantage for a final counter attack and sent Fenerbahce home with a loss. Two losses in a row for Fenerbahce one in turkish league and one in europe and things might take a really bad turn for them if they continue like this. From a perfect season to losing against one of the weakest teams in the group. I had my money on Fenerbahce so really dissapointed at how they played tonight.
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November 10, 2023, 12:01:59 AM |
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To be fair, we did expected Besiktas to end up losing, not only the opponent was a tough one and not as easy as some of the other teams, but also Besiktas is going through some turmoil right now, the president they have is temporary now and said he will not be candidate for the elections, so they will have another president quite soon, and the manager they have is a lovely footballer we all loved, Burak Yılmaz, amazing personality, but not a great manager as we can see and a temporary one, they are not getting any new manager until the elections. So basically when you combine all of that together, it was expected of them to lose, and they did their best, and after this period is over, they will gradually become the powerhouse of Turkish football once again like they used to be.
Fenerbahce on the other hand was totally unexpected, obviously they have plenty of players missing, and since they almost guaranteed to go up as first team, they ended up using the backup players, losing with your backup players and not caring about the game could end up with a loss, the part I did not expected wasn't the end result, after seeing the squad they went with, I could say many did expected it, the part that was unexpected was that they didn't use their stars they had, so it was definitely unexpected to see backups but not unreasonable to rest their best players.
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November 10, 2023, 05:38:55 AM |
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I knew Beşiktaş would lose, my favorite was Bodo/Glimt.
Fenerbahçe lost, I honestly didn't expect it, it was an easy win for Ludogorest. I hope Fenerbahçe won't continue like this because we have high hopes for them in the Conference League.
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November 10, 2023, 08:57:02 AM |
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Two losses in a row for Fenerbahce one in turkish league and one in europe and things might take a really bad turn for them if they continue like this. From a perfect season to losing against one of the weakest teams in the group. I had my money on Fenerbahce so really dissapointed at how they played tonight.
Well two losses is what is needed to wreck this season is only the temporary picture we may have. Of course a flawless record looks like the only way to perfection, but if Fenerbahce can shake off these two bad games and start winning again, this can still be a perfect season. Their position in both the Turkish league and the Europa League is still good and everything is possible for them. It's almost inevitable to have some games where the results do not reflect the performance or when they performance was simply not as good.
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The strongest team in the first 4 games is a German one, it is Bayer Leverkusen. They have won all 4 games and scored 12:2 goals. There is no other team that do this, right after them comes an Italian team Atalanta Bergamo with 3 wins and one draw, 7:3 goals. Matchday 5+6 will not so important for Leverkusen, they will win 1 more game and gp it to the next round. I thought Liverpool would win also all their games too, but yesterday they lost 3-2 to Toulouse, strange.
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November 10, 2023, 09:07:57 AM |
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Two losses in a row for Fenerbahce one in turkish league and one in europe and things might take a really bad turn for them if they continue like this. From a perfect season to losing against one of the weakest teams in the group. I had my money on Fenerbahce so really dissapointed at how they played tonight.
Well two losses is what is needed to wreck this season is only the temporary picture we may have. Of course a flawless record looks like the only way to perfection, but if Fenerbahce can shake off these two bad games and start winning again, this can still be a perfect season. Their position in both the Turkish league and the Europa League is still good and everything is possible for them. It's almost inevitable to have some games where the results do not reflect the performance or when they performance was simply not as good. Surprise results seem common in Conference League these last two match days and Fenerbahce was one of such teams yesterday that probably made many people lose a lot of money.However as you say not all is lost because there is still time to recover in both competitions where in Conference League it would be much easier I think as this group most likely permit Fenerbahce to have the luxury of losing a game like they did yesterday and still be able to qualify further which I find it the most likely thing to happen. In Turkish league it is becoming increasing difficult with Galatasaray being in a super red hot form that I find it difficult Fenerbahce to have a chance here.
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November 10, 2023, 11:22:04 AM |
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The strongest team in the first 4 games is a German one, it is Bayer Leverkusen. They have won all 4 games and scored 12:2 goals. There is no other team that do this, right after them comes an Italian team Atalanta Bergamo with 3 wins and one draw, 7:3 goals. Matchday 5+6 will not so important for Leverkusen, they will win 1 more game and gp it to the next round. I thought Liverpool would win also all their games too, but yesterday they lost 3-2 to Toulouse, strange.
If you look at the teams you mentioned above, it looks like they are in the European League competition, not here my friend. I know you are blunder and maybe what you mean is the European League thread, not the European Conference League. But what you say is correct. The only team in the European Conference League to record a perfect win in 4 matches is Viktoria Plzen, who is currently in group C. However I also favor Fiorentina, Aston Villa and Fenerbahce as candidates to win the trophy this season. Overall I see that the representatives of England and Italy are still at the forefront for now, but there are still two more matches in the future to determine who will qualify from the group phase and advance to the round of 16. West Ham were the defending champions last season, and currently they are doing quite well in the Europa League by topping group A and have only lost once so far. If I see them, they are favorites there.
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November 10, 2023, 11:23:03 AM |
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The strongest team in the first 4 games is a German one, it is Bayer Leverkusen. They have won all 4 games and scored 12:2 goals. There is no other team that do this, right after them comes an Italian team Atalanta Bergamo with 3 wins and one draw, 7:3 goals. Matchday 5+6 will not so important for Leverkusen, they will win 1 more game and gp it to the next round. I thought Liverpool would win also all their games too, but yesterday they lost 3-2 to Toulouse, strange.
Trophies are the primary targets of all teams and managers, more reason some are awake in midnight and doing online tasks while others joins in their convenient time. I've never possess such strong beliefs and courage on these average teams with incompetent coach, but ever since the arrival of the new coach, alot have changed, with the team's current position, there are many things we ought to expects from Leverkusen. Bayer Leverkusen focuses on other priorities to hits this season, it will take a whole long time but with they will surely get there.
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November 10, 2023, 12:49:57 PM |
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The only team in the European Conference League to record a perfect win in 4 matches is Viktoria Plzen, who is currently in group C. However I also favor Fiorentina, Aston Villa and Fenerbahce as candidates to win the trophy this season.
After losing the first match and it was quite surprising, Aston Villa could perform better in the next three matches and Fiorentina also still performed quite well and Fenerbache, who lost last night's match, still had a chance to qualify from the group phase, and of the three teams, I think Aston Villa should really focused on being able to go further in this tournament. I quite favor Aston Villa in the conference league, especially since Unai Emery is giving quite good things to his team at the moment because not only in the conference league but in the English premier league they are also quite good and are in the top five, while Fiorentina is not that impressive in the domestic competition but here maybe they will perform better because the opportunity to reach a further stage is open to them.
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November 10, 2023, 04:43:17 PM |
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The strongest team in the first 4 games is a German one, it is Bayer Leverkusen. They have won all 4 games and scored 12:2 goals. There is no other team that do this, right after them comes an Italian team Atalanta Bergamo with 3 wins and one draw, 7:3 goals. Matchday 5+6 will not so important for Leverkusen, they will win 1 more game and gp it to the next round. I thought Liverpool would win also all their games too, but yesterday they lost 3-2 to Toulouse, strange.
Trophies are the primary targets of all teams and managers, more reason some are awake in midnight and doing online tasks while others joins in their convenient time. I've never possess such strong beliefs and courage on these average teams with incompetent coach, but ever since the arrival of the new coach, alot have changed, with the team's current position, there are many things we ought to expects from Leverkusen. Bayer Leverkusen focuses on other priorities to hits this season, it will take a whole long time but with they will surely get there. I am wondering why Bayer Leverkusen is discussed in the UEFA Conference League thread as they are playing in the Europa League group stage and this is also where they achieved the results that were mentioned here. There is no point in discussing what Leverkusen is doing in another competition. It is hard to say who the favorite is in the Conference League, but despite their loss in the group I would still stick with Aston Villa as I think they will be the strongest opponent to face for any other team in that competition.
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Well, conference league was getting nearer to group stages so these unexpected results were bound to happen. Same with UCL and europa too, look at how Liverpool ended up losing to tolouse as well, nobody expected that, when teams are getting near that "guaranteed to go up" levels, they start to care a lot less and they go out with their bench players and that is when the other team, even though they are worse, end up going against them with their starting team and this results with the better team to lose because the yare not playing with their main players.
I think it is sad that we end up losing because of that, but there is nothing to do about it, we just have to accept that football has something like this we have to accept. Hopefully it could reach to a point where we could see some more domination from the favorite games next games around so that we could make some money, I did lose, but I am fine with it, the first three games were easy wins.
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November 13, 2023, 04:15:47 PM |
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Two losses in a row for Fenerbahce one in turkish league and one in europe and things might take a really bad turn for them if they continue like this. From a perfect season to losing against one of the weakest teams in the group. I had my money on Fenerbahce so really dissapointed at how they played tonight.
Well two losses is what is needed to wreck this season is only the temporary picture we may have. Of course a flawless record looks like the only way to perfection, but if Fenerbahce can shake off these two bad games and start winning again, this can still be a perfect season. Their position in both the Turkish league and the Europa League is still good and everything is possible for them. It's almost inevitable to have some games where the results do not reflect the performance or when they performance was simply not as good. Surprise results seem common in Conference League these last two match days and Fenerbahce was one of such teams yesterday that probably made many people lose a lot of money.However as you say not all is lost because there is still time to recover in both competitions where in Conference League it would be much easier I think as this group most likely permit Fenerbahce to have the luxury of losing a game like they did yesterday and still be able to qualify further which I find it the most likely thing to happen. In Turkish league it is becoming increasing difficult with Galatasaray being in a super red hot form that I find it difficult Fenerbahce to have a chance here. And this is how quickly the dynamics can change and Fenerbahce continued their negative results with a draw in the league as well. I think sometimes these impressive results in the home leagues can be a bit misleading because it is easy to think that they will simply continue that trend. Ludogorets is also a team that is not that well known and hence people think this was supposed to be an easy one for Fenerbahce, but quite the opposite turned out to be true. But Fenerbahce is still fine as they also won the head to head in the group against Ludogorets.
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November 13, 2023, 05:21:49 PM |
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Win after win from Fenerbahçe, they are doing a really good job in the conference league this season. After a few bad years, Fenerbahçe has a very different squad this season. I hope this group can go much further. Things are very difficult for Beşiktaş, they don't have much of a chance in the group anyway, when I looked at their progress this season, I didn't give them much of a chance.
Batshuhai scored the first goal as soon as he had the first opportunity. By the way, I think Fenerbahçe was on a bad day, they could have played a much better game.
Fenerbahçe have improved massively this season. they are so well-prepared to play in europe while also doing very well in the league. This is not a surprise. after experiencing bad years, they were rebuilding the team with a very well-planned and good project for future. the result in the last game give them warning that they need to focus at maintaining their form time to time remembering the quality of squad they have is good enough to compete for trophy. they cant have more points dropped off like this. or else, it would affect their mentality to stay competing at the top throughout the season remembering Galatasaray are a tough team who are also in a good form.
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November 13, 2023, 05:37:11 PM |
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Fenerbahçe have improved massively this season. they are so well-prepared to play in europe while also doing very well in the league. This is not a surprise. after experiencing bad years, they were rebuilding the team with a very well-planned and good project for future.
Nothing makes a team feel better to bouncing back to form after experiencing a bad time or a bad season. Sometimes it also takes failures to achieve success as if failure is not encountered, success wouldn't be appreciated. Fenerbehce have been a wonderful club in Turkey super lig and their performance so far can attest to that. the result in the last game give them warning that they need to focus at maintaining their form time to time remembering the quality of squad they have is good enough to compete for trophy. they cant have more points dropped off like this. or else, it would affect their mentality to stay competing at the top throughout the season remembering Galatasaray are a tough team who are also in a good form.
Coming back from a flop is good as fenerbehce doesn't want to lose chances anymore hence their eagerness to do much better, fenerbehce is a nice club and I believe they will perform much better in their upcoming matches.
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I think that the thing Fenerbahce have achieved so far is still very impressive. They are just having some drop in their form lately but it is totally normal for every team. Because even for top European teams winning every single game isn't sustainable. Fenerbahce must have won around 20 games I guess until finally losing points in a Turkish Super League game a couple of weeks ago. I'm still seeing Fenerbahce among the top contenders for the Europa Conference League title honestly. I know there will be more teams to come from the Europa League which might change the direction of the title also. But for now the teams I see as real competition for Fenerbahce are Aston Villa, Frankfurt and Fiorentina (which played in the finale of the ECL last season also).
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November 13, 2023, 08:41:30 PM |
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I think that the thing Fenerbahce have achieved so far is still very impressive. They are just having some drop in their form lately but it is totally normal for every team. Because even for top European teams winning every single game isn't sustainable. Fenerbahce must have won around 20 games I guess until finally losing points in a Turkish Super League game a couple of weeks ago. I'm still seeing Fenerbahce among the top contenders for the Europa Conference League title honestly. I know there will be more teams to come from the Europa League which might change the direction of the title also. But for now the teams I see as real competition for Fenerbahce are Aston Villa, Frankfurt and Fiorentina (which played in the finale of the ECL last season also). There are also main competitiors for the Conference League trophy, we should sits in positions were brilliant results doesn't shocked us just as the rest. For illustration, Fenerbahçe recent defeat was hugh surprise for everyone because they couldn't believe their eyes. Fenerbahçe will mount on to the next opponents, already secured significant points which makes them rank top. Fenerbahçe will definitely qualify for the next round because they've fought so hard to accumulate important points this season. Fenerbahçe have declined heavily regarding performance, and they're having balance to bounce back to big games, all matters within the estimated range of time.
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November 15, 2023, 03:34:50 PM |
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I think that the thing Fenerbahce have achieved so far is still very impressive. They are just having some drop in their form lately but it is totally normal for every team. Because even for top European teams winning every single game isn't sustainable. Fenerbahce must have won around 20 games I guess until finally losing points in a Turkish Super League game a couple of weeks ago. I'm still seeing Fenerbahce among the top contenders for the Europa Conference League title honestly. I know there will be more teams to come from the Europa League which might change the direction of the title also. But for now the teams I see as real competition for Fenerbahce are Aston Villa, Frankfurt and Fiorentina (which played in the finale of the ECL last season also). I wouldn't call it a drop in form because that sounds as if it is a prolonged problem. But if they can win their next games again and also don't start a losing stream in the Turkish league, they will be doing ok. In the Conference League their goal should still be to win the group, but the prospects are very strong for them as they have the upper hand against Ludogorets with the direct comparison as they have a much better goal difference.
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November 15, 2023, 04:57:34 PM |
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I knew Beşiktaş would lose, my favorite was Bodo/Glimt.
Fenerbahçe lost, I honestly didn't expect it, it was an easy win for Ludogorest. I hope Fenerbahçe won't continue like this because we have high hopes for them in the Conference League.
Yes indeed, Besiktas has been very bad so far in the Conference League because Besiktas is also one of the teams that does not have a winning result in this group stage. Thus, Besiktas defeat by Bodo/Glimt is no longer a surprise, because in their first match or in their first meeting in this group stage too, the fact that Besiktas lost by Bodo/Glimt . But, although Besiktas and Fenerbahce come from the same league and country, bu their performance in this Conference League is very different. Because anyway, at this moment also the fact that Fenerbahce has good dominance in the Turkish Super Lig, so it is not surprising that Fenerbache managed to come in first place in group H this time.
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