Solo mining help

[Marre-76]

Hi! I really need some help with solo mining. I have an antminer 9s and I enter all the info it says when I create a new pool. For example, stratum+tcp://pool.vkbit.com:3333
My btc wallet address and an x ​​as password. I have tried several times and on different mining pools but still it just says status "dead" What am I doing wrong??? I have braiinsos+
Sincerely
Martin

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[BitMaxz]

I never heard of the vkbit.com pool and according to Whois it was just created last year if I were you I suggest use a well-known pool like https://solo.ckpool.org/ or Viabtc pool.

You can try them and update here if still didn't work then post the logs of the unit here just don't forget to put the logs inside the insert code tag so that we can easily read them.

[VKBIT]

I never heard of the vkbit.com pool and according to Whois it was just created last year if I were you I suggest use a well-known pool like https://solo.ckpool.org/ or Viabtc pool.

You can try them and update here if still didn't work then post the logs of the unit here just don't forget to put the logs inside the insert code tag so that we can easily read them.

You are missing the point ...
No hard feelings.

[paid2]

Hi! I really need some help with solo mining. I have an antminer 9s and I enter all the info it says when I create a new pool. For example, stratum+tcp://pool.vkbit.com:3333
My btc wallet address and an x ​​as password. I have tried several times and on different mining pools but still it just says status "dead" What am I doing wrong??? I have braiinsos+
Sincerely
Martin

OP you shouldn't trust a random solo pool. They might not send you your block reward if by chance you find a block.

This is solo mining, and it's a very risky bet to put your trust in a new, unknown pool that hasn't had any previous blocks. As mentioned above, you should solo mine with solo-ckpool, viabtc, or kano's pool if you really want low fees.

Don't risk 6.25 BTC with randoms, it's terribly risky, nobody knows them and you have no proof that their pool is working properly.

[VKBIT]

Hi! I really need some help with solo mining. I have an antminer 9s and I enter all the info it says when I create a new pool. For example, stratum+tcp://pool.vkbit.com:3333
My btc wallet address and an x ​​as password. I have tried several times and on different mining pools but still it just says status "dead" What am I doing wrong??? I have braiinsos+
Sincerely
Martin

OP you shouldn't trust a random solo pool. They might not send you your block reward if by chance you find a block.

This is solo mining, and it's a very risky bet to put your trust in a new, unknown pool that hasn't had any previous blocks. As mentioned above, you should solo mine with solo-ckpool, viabtc, or kano's pool if you really want low fees.

Don't risk 6.25 BTC with randoms, it's terribly risky, nobody knows them and you have no proof that their pool is working properly.

I clearly understand your concerns, but please verify don't trust.
Check the coinbase.

Anyway guys you need to do more research before throwing stones.
Check the web, check the telegram see the repository on Github.

Clearly i am not the newbie here.

I'm not saying that the CK pool is not good, on the contrary, it may suit some people, we initially started to make this pool with the CK pool source code, but it greatly disadvantages users with a low hash rate, because it is a solo pool, everyone works for themselves, so the difficulty had to be adjusted for everyone according to power, you can see many differences and transparency more than necessary.
Also, no one entrusts us with the earned bitcoins, they are shared directly, when someone succeeds, it is not shared by us, it is shared by the code itself when the result is sent.


You should try it wont bite https://vkbit.com.

[paid2]

I clearly understand your concerns, but please verify don't trust.
Check the coinbase.

Do you have any block numbers solved by your pool so that we can take a look?

Anyway guys you need to do more research before throwing stones.
Check the web, check the telegram see the repository on Github.

Clearly i am not the newbie here.

I'm not saying that the CK pool is not good, on the contrary, it may suit some people, we initially started to make this pool with the CK pool source code, but it greatly disadvantages users with a low hash rate, because it is a solo pool, everyone works for themselves, so the difficulty had to be adjusted for everyone according to power, you can see many differences and transparency more than necessary.
Also, no one entrusts us with the earned bitcoins, they are shared directly, when someone succeeds, it is not shared by us, it is shared by the code itself when the result is sent.

You should try it wont bite https://vkbit.com.

How difficulty can be adjusted for everyone according to their hashrate ? It doesn't make sense.
Are you making your miners mine BCH or other sha256 low difficulty coins and pay them in BTC ?

I had a look at your site and Telegram yesterday, but it didn't give me much more information.

I'm not casting stones, I'm simply pointing out that risking a one-chance-in-life reward with an unknown pool is not the best thing to do when you have pools that have been proving their worth for years. Ckpool doesn't put anyone at a disadvantage, everyone has an equal chance of finding a block in proportion to their hashrate, just like with any well-configured solo pool.

[kano]

...
Clearly i am not the newbie here.

I'm not saying that the CK pool is not good, on the contrary, it may suit some people, we initially started to make this pool with the CK pool source code, but it greatly disadvantages users with a low hash rate, because it is a solo pool, everyone works for themselves, so the difficulty had to be adjusted for everyone according to power, you can see many differences and transparency more than necessary.
...

Clearly you are a newbie.

Pool provided work difficulty has zero effect on finding a Bitcoin block.

If you aren't a solo pool, then your pool is off topic.


Aside:
... and as I've explained before, if someone wants X% solo and Y% PPLNS, (where X+Y = 100), then they just create two accounts on my pool and mine to both with X% hash rate on one account and Y% on the other account. Simple.
My pool has both Solo and PPLNS.

[VKBIT]

As I said, the pool is for solo mining.
I don't insist anymore, topic of this user who asked a question did not receive any concrete answer, instead he got hints that he's using the wrong pool and he shouldn't be doing that.
I didn't expect that and that's why I commented in the first instance.

[philipma1957]

As I said, the pool is for solo mining.
I don't insist anymore, topic of this user who asked a question did not receive any concrete answer, instead he got hints that he's using the wrong pool and he shouldn't be doing that.
I didn't expect that and that's why I commented in the first instance.

The problem is you are an unknown and we have had more than one small pool run away with a block.

The idea that a newbie asked how to use your pool could mean you have a second account and are using it to lure people into mining on your solo pool.

I am not saying you are a thief but why mine with your unknown pool. when

ckpool
kano pool
viabtc pool

all are known payers of solo.

The only way you are going to draw miners is you use an escrow service to back your pool for a block or 2.

I have 4ph I would never point it to your pool for fear of you running off.

Why risk a loss of 6.25 btc on your pool

[VKBIT]

As I said, the pool is for solo mining.
I don't insist anymore, topic of this user who asked a question did not receive any concrete answer, instead he got hints that he's using the wrong pool and he shouldn't be doing that.
I didn't expect that and that's why I commented in the first instance.

The problem is you are an unknown and we have had more than one small pool run away with a block.

The idea that a newbie asked how to use your pool could mean you have a second account and are using it to lure people into mining on your solo pool.

I am not saying you are a thief but why mine with your unknown pool. when

ckpool
kano pool
viabtc pool

all are known payers of solo.

The only way you are going to draw miners is you use an escrow service to back your pool for a block or 2.

I have 4ph I would never point it to your pool for fear of you running off.

Why risk a loss of 6.25 btc on your pool

I understand, i am not upset or something, i agree with all you have said.
Unfortunately is not easy as it was back in 2014 to make a name.
Thank you & i am sorry if i have caused any drama, i will stay quiet till we get some results to share.

[public-pool]

Hi All, just wanted to clear some things up.

vkbit.com is a fork of public-pool, a completely open source solo mining pool that I created over the last few months. https://github.com/benjamin-wilson/public-pool Official:  (https://web.public-pool.io). I have been working with Open Source Miners United on the Bitaxe project as well as Bitmaker and Nerdminers. I had determined that a new solo pool that is super easy to setup and run for yourself would be a great contribution to the community. I am currently hosting a small competition for nerdminers and so far we have over 2000 participating.

The project is very young and nobody has mined any mainnet blocks but I have successfully mined testnet blocks.

While you can't verify vkbit is running the published source code you can verify the Coinbase transaction being sent to your miners and I have helped them get it deployed.

Don't trust, verify.

[Biffa]

Don't trust, verify.

Difficulty you face is there is nothing to verify, no mainnet blocks found on either of the pools known to run your code.

I'm impressed that you coded a pool from scratch, and understand the catch 22 you are in trying to get people to use your pools whilst not having any proof they actually work.

Just pointing out your clever sounding catch phrase rings a bit hollow, no offence intended 

[public-pool]

I disagree it sounds hollow, public-pool is one of only a few mining pools that you can actually audit and run the code yourself. Secondly the code is proven to mine testnet blocks. Testnet is there specifically for the purpose of testing software for mainnet.

Here is a testnet block https://mempool.space/testnet/block/00000000000000019607d7e70369c2e5a07d9f56380e4e9f03b24d25b62f5fbc , you can see public-pool name in the coinbase.

[VKBIT]

Don't trust, verify.

Difficulty you face is there is nothing to verify, no mainnet blocks found on either of the pools known to run your code.

I'm impressed that you coded a pool from scratch, and understand the catch 22 you are in trying to get people to use your pools whilst not having any proof they actually work.

Just pointing out your clever sounding catch phrase rings a bit hollow, no offence intended  

Everything on plate and still skeptics @.
With this thinking, new pools cannot exist or appear without criticism, there is no problem, I agree that 99.9999% are scams, but no scam will have a public source and collaborations with different DIY miner projects with thousands of users trusting, also with the public source, until we can provide results, it will be very difficult to change your beliefs, the most correct thing would be to check before you set your belief.

[mikeywith]

Everything on plate and still skeptics @.
With this thinking, new pools cannot exist or appear without criticism, there is no problem, I agree that 99.9999% are scams, but no scam will have a public source and collaborations with different DIY miner projects with thousands of users trusting, also with the public source, until we can provide results, it will be very difficult to change your beliefs, the most correct thing would be to check before you set your belief.

I don't understand why would anyone take such things personal, I have been around the forum for 5 years +, and I traded hundreds of thousands of dollars here and on a large telegram group, I am an admin on one of the large telegram groups that trade Bitmain coupons in volumes of millions, a DT member here, top 20 most merited (was in top 10 not too long ago) I can go on with more things, but despite all that, I don't have the balls to go around asking people to trust me with a solo mining pool, it's just asking for WAY TOO MUCH.

Not bashing you here, but I think the chances I have in running a solo pool are greater than yours by a few orders of magnitude, and despite that, I know very well that it would be very naive of me to assume that people would trust me enough to mine to my solo pool, this applies to 99.99% of people, not just you and I.

In order for someone to mine to your pool you would need to pass two tests

1- Technicals: to ensure that your pool even works to begin with.
2- Trust: to ensure that you won't run away with the block.

Point 1 is doable, you could throw enough money at it and wala, approved, your pool finds blocks, so let's assume you have already passed this test, How on earth are you going to solve point 2?

I won't lie, I like how you present yourself, and if it was you vs another forum newbie who posted some shit using Chatgpt and stopped responding, I would choose your pool over his, but you are up against CK, Kano, and Viabtc (probably a few more well known and established pools that offer solo mining) so give me one fucking good reason why would I use your pool over the three I mentioned above?

heck, I can't even justify 1 day's worth of reward mining to a PPS pool I don't know, let alone risking a whole block.

[philipma1957]

Yeah I likely could be trusted enough to run a solo pool, but I have been here for 11 years. traded and escrowed 100's of thousands of dollars.

Also I ran successful solo-pool parties and sent out over 61btc in blocks hit.

  Plus at least 2 dozen people here on BTC  talk really know my name and my address. So 6.25 btc is not enough coin for me to leave my wife and my home of 30+ years. To escape to an anonymous location.


  I can recall mmpool.org leaving this site after dishing out 20 + blocks yet they claimed they were hacked. They left after last block and did not pay close to 200k

I can recall at least 1 solo pool hit just 1 block and by by so long farewell.

So 6.25 btc = 150k plus.

It is too much for any of us to risk when  there are at least 3 good solo pools to play.

Cksolo pool is a known payer.
kano pays his blocks
and viabtc pays their blocks.


The op is an unknown with zero KYC and no history of handling funds. It is a killer for most of us that have seen a lot of funds vanish.

BTW while I have trusted mikeywith with 3 and 4 k in coins and gear purchases I do not know whim well enough to risk 6.25 btc when I can do it with ckpool whom has paid me 3 solo blocks

[mikeywith]

BTW while I have trusted mikeywith with 3 and 4 k in coins and gear purchases I do not know whim well enough to risk 6.25 btc when I can do it with ckpool whom has paid me 3 solo blocks

Common sense, it's all relative, Your reputation represents the amount of money someone is willing to risk dealing with you, you wouldn't risk 4k with a newbie coz while 4k isn't 6.25BTC it's still a lot of money to gamble with.

In fact, 5 years ago when I first joined the forum, I couldn't just start selling mining gears, You personally wouldn't trust me enough to send me 5k and sit tight waiting for gears to actually arrive, and I would understand, but at this point, it's pretty logical that after all the reputation I built, it would be plain stupid to run away with 5k or even 20k, but with 6.25BTC it's a whole different story, I know I wouldn't run away with people's money, but how would you know? you wouldn't, so why would I expect you to trust me with 6.25 BTC unless I don't understand how the world works?

Now imagine a newbie account asking you to send them 500$ without escrow. I personally wouldn't do that, let alone trust them with a whole block.

Also, if you could buy the same gears from the guy next door, pay in cash, and pick them up, it would make no sense to trust me even with $100, unless the price difference was really justifiable, this solo pool case is NOT justifiable, I see no benefits in ditching those pools and using this one.

[VKBIT]

Thank you.

Asking to participate is like asking for trust, i agree.
So to put this simple if any ...CK, Kano, and Viabtc or someone of you wanna help you could simply ask to be the block reward receiver, then you can share the reward as mentioned, if not then we have no option to pass the above points except the mutual trust.

Let me know. Thanks again.

Edit: Everything is paid directly, check templates, no pool hacks no withdrawals.

[boggym777]

As I said, the pool is for solo mining.
I don't insist anymore, topic of this user who asked a question did not receive any concrete answer, instead he got hints that he's using the wrong pool and he shouldn't be doing that.
I didn't expect that and that's why I commented in the first instance.

The problem is you are an unknown and we have had more than one small pool run away with a block.

The idea that a newbie asked how to use your pool could mean you have a second account and are using it to lure people into mining on your solo pool.

I am not saying you are a thief but why mine with your unknown pool. when

ckpool
kano pool
viabtc pool

all are known payers of solo.

The only way you are going to draw miners is you use an escrow service to back your pool for a block or 2.

I have 4ph I would never point it to your pool for fear of you running off.

Why risk a loss of 6.25 btc on your pool

Hi philipma,

I tried to find the pools you mentioned above, and for ckpool & kano pool the browser did not want to go there saying that they have malware.
The only one that worked somehow was the viabtc pool.
As I am a new miner (I will be in short time), do you recommend viabtc pool over the braiins one? I know that braiins is very old, and somehow respectable, however I do not know too much about the fees, and other things a pool might have. I am in the process of documenting myself til my antminer arrives.

Thank you

[kano]

Hi philipma,

I tried to find the pools you mentioned above, and for ckpool & kano pool the browser did not want to go there saying that they have malware.
The only one that worked somehow was the viabtc pool.
As I am a new miner (I will be in short time), do you recommend viabtc pool over the braiins one? I know that braiins is very old, and somehow respectable, however I do not know too much about the fees, and other things a pool might have. I am in the process of documenting myself til my antminer arrives.

Thank you

Braiins isn't that old.
The name is very recent, and the pool was bought from someone else long after a number of pools existed (including after my pool existed)
Since they bought the pool there have been, on a few occasions, issues about them paying out less than expected due to pool issues that they ignored.
They also are pushing transaction bias, which is very bad for bitcoin.

[boggym777]

Hi philipma,

I tried to find the pools you mentioned above, and for ckpool & kano pool the browser did not want to go there saying that they have malware.
The only one that worked somehow was the viabtc pool.
As I am a new miner (I will be in short time), do you recommend viabtc pool over the braiins one? I know that braiins is very old, and somehow respectable, however I do not know too much about the fees, and other things a pool might have. I am in the process of documenting myself til my antminer arrives.

Thank you

Braiins isn't that old.
The name is very recent, and the pool was bought from someone else long after a number of pools existed (including after my pool existed)
Since they bought the pool there have been, on a few occasions, issues about them paying out less than expected due to pool issues that they ignored.
They also are pushing transaction bias, which is very bad for bitcoin.

Hi かの,
I appreciate your reply, and I understand what you say, however when I tried to get to setup an account for your pool, I got a message from FireFox saying that there is malicious content ahead, and forbid me to get there. Would you please tell me what URL is the one for your pool? I tried the same thing, as you can see from my reply above, to get to ckpool, and I had the same issue.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thank you

[kano]

Hi philipma,

I tried to find the pools you mentioned above, and for ckpool & kano pool the browser did not want to go there saying that they have malware.
The only one that worked somehow was the viabtc pool.
As I am a new miner (I will be in short time), do you recommend viabtc pool over the braiins one? I know that braiins is very old, and somehow respectable, however I do not know too much about the fees, and other things a pool might have. I am in the process of documenting myself til my antminer arrives.

Thank you

Braiins isn't that old.
The name is very recent, and the pool was bought from someone else long after a number of pools existed (including after my pool existed)
Since they bought the pool there have been, on a few occasions, issues about them paying out less than expected due to pool issues that they ignored.
They also are pushing transaction bias, which is very bad for bitcoin.

Hi かの,
I appreciate your reply, and I understand what you say, however when I tried to get to setup an account for your pool, I got a message from FireFox saying that there is malicious content ahead, and forbid me to get there. Would you please tell me what URL is the one for your pool? I tried the same thing, as you can see from my reply above, to get to ckpool, and I had the same issue.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thank you

You'll have to tell firefox to allow it.
Nothing I can do about firefox lying.

[boggym777]

Hi philipma,

I tried to find the pools you mentioned above, and for ckpool & kano pool the browser did not want to go there saying that they have malware.
The only one that worked somehow was the viabtc pool.
As I am a new miner (I will be in short time), do you recommend viabtc pool over the braiins one? I know that braiins is very old, and somehow respectable, however I do not know too much about the fees, and other things a pool might have. I am in the process of documenting myself til my antminer arrives.

Thank you

Braiins isn't that old.
The name is very recent, and the pool was bought from someone else long after a number of pools existed (including after my pool existed)
Since they bought the pool there have been, on a few occasions, issues about them paying out less than expected due to pool issues that they ignored.
They also are pushing transaction bias, which is very bad for bitcoin.

Hi かの,
I appreciate your reply, and I understand what you say, however when I tried to get to setup an account for your pool, I got a message from FireFox saying that there is malicious content ahead, and forbid me to get there. Would you please tell me what URL is the one for your pool? I tried the same thing, as you can see from my reply above, to get to ckpool, and I had the same issue.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thank you

You'll have to tell firefox to allow it.
Nothing I can do about firefox lying.

I understand.
Would you please be so kind and give me the URL for the pool so that I can try again?
Thank you

[NotFuzzyWarm]

It's the 1st thing in Kano's sig...
https://kano.is

[mikeywith]

I tried to find the pools you mentioned above, and for ckpool & kano pool the browser did not want to go there saying that they have malware.

Ckpool (the normal pool) is no longer running, there is only the solo version of it online, and you probably don't want to use that unless you know what you are doing, the correct link to it is https://solo.ckpool.org/

Kano pool is a small pool that doesn't find blocks way too often and thus you will likely have to wait for way too long to get paid, in theory, eventually, the payout should be higher than the other pools since it has the lowest fees, I personally don't like to bear such variance, but to each his own idea.

Viabtc is a good pool that has all 3 payment methods PPS+ , PPLNS and Solo, you said you got the link to it, so i won't post it.

[Biffa]

I tried to find the pools you mentioned above, and for ckpool & kano pool the browser did not want to go there saying that they have malware.

Kano pool is a small pool that doesn't find blocks way too often and thus you will likely have to wait for way too long to get paid, in theory, eventually, the payout should be higher than the other pools since it has the lowest fees, I personally don't like to bear such variance, but to each his own idea.

@op They say they have malware because they are associated with or have downloads of cgminer on them and some web filters eroneously consider any site with miner software downloads is a trojan/virus/compromised site.

With regards to small pools, of course the variance is directly related to the hashrate of the pool, so the more people mine there the less the variance affects the outcome.

Some people are super sensitive to variance, even on large pools, they jump ship when there is a run of bad luck.

Using these smaller pools and boosting their hashrate may be a good way of getting around the larger pools becoming more and more restrictive with sign-up requirements and lack of anonymity.

[boggym777]

It's the 1st thing in Kano's sig...
https://kano.is

I clicked on the link you posted, and FireFox displayed me that:

Secure Connection Failed

An error occurred during a connection to kano.is. PR_CONNECT_RESET_ERROR

Error code: PR_CONNECT_RESET_ERROR

    The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
    Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.

[boggym777]

I tried to find the pools you mentioned above, and for ckpool & kano pool the browser did not want to go there saying that they have malware.

Ckpool (the normal pool) is no longer running, there is only the solo version of it online, and you probably don't want to use that unless you know what you are doing, the correct link to it is https://solo.ckpool.org/

Kano pool is a small pool that doesn't find blocks way too often and thus you will likely have to wait for way too long to get paid, in theory, eventually, the payout should be higher than the other pools since it has the lowest fees, I personally don't like to bear such variance, but to each his own idea.

Viabtc is a good pool that has all 3 payment methods PPS+ , PPLNS and Solo, you said you got the link to it, so i won't post it.

Thank you very much for your response.
I think I will stay with ViaBTC as it was the only one that opened properly.

[mikeywith]

Thank you very much for your response.
I think I will stay with ViaBTC as it was the only one that opened properly.

Viabtc is a good pool, however, using only the fact that stupid firefox opened that without an issue unlike the rest of the pools is a terrible idea, it should not be your point of judgment, most browsers and security applications are stupid and paranoid over anything crypto.

Did you try a different browser?

[boggym777]

Thank you very much for your response.
I think I will stay with ViaBTC as it was the only one that opened properly.

Viabtc is a good pool, however, using only the fact that stupid firefox opened that without an issue unlike the rest of the pools is a terrible idea, it should not be your point of judgment, most browsers and security applications are stupid and paranoid over anything crypto.

Did you try a different browser?

No, I tried only FireFox. I trust it because it is also open source. Should I try with Chrome & Edge, or something else?
Thank you

[boggym777]

Thank you very much for your response.
I think I will stay with ViaBTC as it was the only one that opened properly.

Viabtc is a good pool, however, using only the fact that stupid firefox opened that without an issue unlike the rest of the pools is a terrible idea, it should not be your point of judgment, most browsers and security applications are stupid and paranoid over anything crypto.

Did you try a different browser?

I just tried Chrome and Edge for Kano's pool and they both told me that the site does not exist.
I also tried on both the URL you suggested https://solo.ckpool.org/, and I got the message that it is not secure, so it would not let me connect.
Also my antivirus sent me a notification that the site has malware ...

[boggym777]

Thank you very much for your response.
I think I will stay with ViaBTC as it was the only one that opened properly.

Viabtc is a good pool, however, using only the fact that stupid firefox opened that without an issue unlike the rest of the pools is a terrible idea, it should not be your point of judgment, most browsers and security applications are stupid and paranoid over anything crypto.

Did you try a different browser?

I tried on FireFox on my Apple laptop for https://solo.ckpool.org/, and it worked, so I guess my antivirus (from the company I work for) blocked it.
So your suggestion would be to use this one instead of ViaBTC? By the way, for ViaBTC I found this URL: www.viabtc.com, which is not like the other ones I saw ... Do you have by chance the "real" URL towards ViaBTC please?
Thank you again

[boggym777]

Hi philipma,

I tried to find the pools you mentioned above, and for ckpool & kano pool the browser did not want to go there saying that they have malware.
The only one that worked somehow was the viabtc pool.
As I am a new miner (I will be in short time), do you recommend viabtc pool over the braiins one? I know that braiins is very old, and somehow respectable, however I do not know too much about the fees, and other things a pool might have. I am in the process of documenting myself til my antminer arrives.

Thank you

Braiins isn't that old.
The name is very recent, and the pool was bought from someone else long after a number of pools existed (including after my pool existed)
Since they bought the pool there have been, on a few occasions, issues about them paying out less than expected due to pool issues that they ignored.
They also are pushing transaction bias, which is very bad for bitcoin.

Hi かの,
I appreciate your reply, and I understand what you say, however when I tried to get to setup an account for your pool, I got a message from FireFox saying that there is malicious content ahead, and forbid me to get there. Would you please tell me what URL is the one for your pool? I tried the same thing, as you can see from my reply above, to get to ckpool, and I had the same issue.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thank you

You'll have to tell firefox to allow it.
Nothing I can do about firefox lying.

Hi again かの,
I managed to connect to your pool using the FireFox on my Apple laptop. It seems that the antivirus I was having on my PC did not allow the connection.
So I should simply register on your pool, and use the settings suggested there when I configure my Antminer?
Thank you

[boggym777]

Thank you very much for your response.
I think I will stay with ViaBTC as it was the only one that opened properly.

Viabtc is a good pool, however, using only the fact that stupid firefox opened that without an issue unlike the rest of the pools is a terrible idea, it should not be your point of judgment, most browsers and security applications are stupid and paranoid over anything crypto.

Did you try a different browser?

I managed to connect to kano.is using FireFox on my laptop, so it seems that here too my antivirus was not allowing the connection.
So right now as I gained access to both these pools, the kano pool and the solo.ckpool
Is the ViaBTC a legit one? I mean the www.viabtc.com is a legit pool, or a copycat?
So right now from those 3, kano pool, solo.ckpool & viabitc, which one do you suggest to be more appropriate for a noob like me?
Thank you

[mikeywith]

Is the ViaBTC a legit one? I mean the www.viabtc.com is a legit pool, or a copycat?
So right now from those 3, kano pool, solo.ckpool & viabitc, which one do you suggest to be more appropriate for a noob like me?
Thank you

Yes the legit link is www.viabtc.com

As for which one to use you need to first understand that they are pretty different, and then decide for yourself:

solo.ckpool : is more of a gambling way of mining, it's either you hit a whole block and take home 6.25 BTC or earn nothing, there is a 99.99% change that you don't earn anything, but ya, a tiny little slim chance that you win big (not for serious mining but rather lottery way of mining)

Kano.is: it is a small PPLNS pool, given its hashrate, it doesn't find blocks as often, so you are going to need to wait for it to happen, if it hits a block a week after you join it, you would make more on that than mining on Viabtc for a few months or so, but it's also possible that you don't get any rewards for maybe a year.

Viabtc: a PPS pool with high fees where you are guaranteed to get daily payouts and not subject to luck, if the pool finds more block than "usual" they would keep the the extra, if they find less, they would pay you out of their own pocket, so you will operate on the basis of 100% - 4% fee regardless.

If this was to be measured against infinity, i.e if you were going to mine forever then the pool with the lowest fee would be the one to go for, but since that isn't the case, you are forced to pick one, you can think of the above three pools as

ck > very high risk - very high rewards
kano > medium risk - medium rewards
Viabtc > low risk - low rewards

There are other PPS pools with lower fees if you want to explore them such as Binance pool with 2.5% fee, but then you will be forced to use their exchange, i.e you can't set external payouts, they send you the payouts to your exchange wallet and then you take them out from there, so it might involve some KYC or your country might be banned by Binance.

But ya anyway, once you understand what you do you want to do with mining, picking the right pool for you would be a lot easier.

[boggym777]

Is the ViaBTC a legit one? I mean the www.viabtc.com is a legit pool, or a copycat?
So right now from those 3, kano pool, solo.ckpool & viabitc, which one do you suggest to be more appropriate for a noob like me?
Thank you

Yes the legit link is www.viabtc.com

As for which one to use you need to first understand that they are pretty different, and then decide for yourself:

solo.ckpool : is more of a gambling way of mining, it's either you hit a whole block and take home 6.25 BTC or earn nothing, there is a 99.99% change that you don't earn anything, but ya, a tiny little slim chance that you win big (not for serious mining but rather lottery way of mining)

Kano.is: it is a small PPLNS pool, given its hashrate, it doesn't find blocks as often, so you are going to need to wait for it to happen, if it hits a block a week after you join it, you would make more on that than mining on Viabtc for a few months or so, but it's also possible that you don't get any rewards for maybe a year.

Viabtc: a PPS pool with high fees where you are guaranteed to get daily payouts and not subject to luck, if the pool finds more block than "usual" they would keep the the extra, if they find less, they would pay you out of their own pocket, so you will operate on the basis of 100% - 4% fee regardless.

If this was to be measured against infinity, i.e if you were going to mine forever then the pool with the lowest fee would be the one to go for, but since that isn't the case, you are forced to pick one, you can think of the above three pools as

ck > very high risk - very high rewards
kano > medium risk - medium rewards
Viabtc > low risk - low rewards

There are other PPS pools with lower fees if you want to explore them such as Binance pool with 2.5% fee, but then you will be forced to use their exchange, i.e you can't set external payouts, they send you the payouts to your exchange wallet and then you take them out from there, so it might involve some KYC or your country might be banned by Binance.

But ya anyway, once you understand what you do you want to do with mining, picking the right pool for you would be a lot easier.

Thank you very much for your insights Mikeywith,
I saw in a video about setting up the Antminer S19 that I have, that it is also possible to have like 3 pools simultaneously. Do you think that it would be worth it to put those 3 together?
I mean Binance (I am in Canada so I do not think that it is banned), ck & kano?
Thank you

[boggym777]

Is the ViaBTC a legit one? I mean the www.viabtc.com is a legit pool, or a copycat?
So right now from those 3, kano pool, solo.ckpool & viabitc, which one do you suggest to be more appropriate for a noob like me?
Thank you

Yes the legit link is www.viabtc.com

As for which one to use you need to first understand that they are pretty different, and then decide for yourself:

solo.ckpool : is more of a gambling way of mining, it's either you hit a whole block and take home 6.25 BTC or earn nothing, there is a 99.99% change that you don't earn anything, but ya, a tiny little slim chance that you win big (not for serious mining but rather lottery way of mining)

Kano.is: it is a small PPLNS pool, given its hashrate, it doesn't find blocks as often, so you are going to need to wait for it to happen, if it hits a block a week after you join it, you would make more on that than mining on Viabtc for a few months or so, but it's also possible that you don't get any rewards for maybe a year.

Viabtc: a PPS pool with high fees where you are guaranteed to get daily payouts and not subject to luck, if the pool finds more block than "usual" they would keep the the extra, if they find less, they would pay you out of their own pocket, so you will operate on the basis of 100% - 4% fee regardless.

If this was to be measured against infinity, i.e if you were going to mine forever then the pool with the lowest fee would be the one to go for, but since that isn't the case, you are forced to pick one, you can think of the above three pools as

ck > very high risk - very high rewards
kano > medium risk - medium rewards
Viabtc > low risk - low rewards

There are other PPS pools with lower fees if you want to explore them such as Binance pool with 2.5% fee, but then you will be forced to use their exchange, i.e you can't set external payouts, they send you the payouts to your exchange wallet and then you take them out from there, so it might involve some KYC or your country might be banned by Binance.

But ya anyway, once you understand what you do you want to do with mining, picking the right pool for you would be a lot easier.

Actually it seems that Canada is restricted for binance ...

[mikeywith]

Actually it seems that Canada is restricted for binance ...

I didn't know that, but after a bit of research I found this

Binance’s exit from Canada
Binance took to Twitter on May 12, 2023 to announce their proactive departure from Canada. They cited that the Canadian marketplace was no longer tenable for them after the CSA released guidelines surrounding new regulatory procedures for non-registered crypto trading platforms.

https://creditcardgenius.ca/blog/binance-canada

Perhaps read more about it so that you know whom to vote for in the coming election,   many old farts are against anything crypto.

Well then, sadly, no 2.5% for you, you are going to need to pay the 4% on Viabtc, but ya it's worth it, they have a great app that you can use to monitor your hashrate, get notifications and all that, based on my own experience Viabtc has one of the best mobile apps.

[boggym777]

Actually it seems that Canada is restricted for binance ...

I didn't know that, but after a bit of research I found this

Binance’s exit from Canada
Binance took to Twitter on May 12, 2023 to announce their proactive departure from Canada. They cited that the Canadian marketplace was no longer tenable for them after the CSA released guidelines surrounding new regulatory procedures for non-registered crypto trading platforms.

https://creditcardgenius.ca/blog/binance-canada

Perhaps read more about it so that you know whom to vote for in the coming election,   many old farts are against anything crypto.

Well then, sadly, no 2.5% for you, you are going to need to pay the 4% on Viabtc, but ya it's worth it, they have a great app that you can use to monitor your hashrate, get notifications and all that, based on my own experience Viabtc has one of the best mobile apps.

Yeah, actually it is a young fart right now in charge. Hopefully not for long. As governments are exponents of centralization, would be a bit weird that a politician (like right now Robert Kennedy Jr.) or a government would support crypto as crypto is a symbol of decentralization. Our young fart however is on the extreme left, so he will never be in favour, and if he says he is, than this is a fat lie.
Do you by any chance know any other pools like binance? It is weird that I cannot connect to a pool in US for instance ...
Also, regarding what I was asking about my miner, would it be possible to have 3 pools entered? Or only one?
Thank you

[paid2]

Yeah, actually it is a young fart right now in charge. Hopefully not for long. As governments are exponents of centralization, would be a bit weird that a politician (like right now Robert Kennedy Jr.) or a government would support crypto as crypto is a symbol of decentralization. Our young fart however is on the extreme left, so he will never be in favour, and if he says he is, than this is a fat lie.
Do you by any chance know any other pools like binance? It is weird that I cannot connect to a pool in US for instance ...

Canada is a hell for cryptos, and has been for already a pretty long time (like with Ontario's situation for example). Btw, it's a good thing Binance isn't available to you, the fewer users they have (CEX, pool, partner sites) the better the crypto world will be.

To choose a pool, you can use the following web page, which shows the pools and the number of blocks solved by each of them for the last year (you can change the timeframe at the top)

https://mempool.space/fr/graphs/mining/pools#1y

It's up to you to explore them, and make your choice according to your personal situation. Some will put you under restrictions, others won't, some will have more or less variance in incomes, the choice is yours.
The most important thing is to choose a pool that pays fees to miners - I guess you don't want to deprive yourself of this source of income.

Also, regarding what I was asking about my miner, would it be possible to have 3 pools entered? Or only one?

The pool #2 will only be active when #1 is offline/dead.
The pool #3 will only be active when #2 is offline/dead.

Normally, almost all your shares will go to pool #1. Entering more than one is optional.

[boggym777]

Yeah, actually it is a young fart right now in charge. Hopefully not for long. As governments are exponents of centralization, would be a bit weird that a politician (like right now Robert Kennedy Jr.) or a government would support crypto as crypto is a symbol of decentralization. Our young fart however is on the extreme left, so he will never be in favour, and if he says he is, than this is a fat lie.
Do you by any chance know any other pools like binance? It is weird that I cannot connect to a pool in US for instance ...

Canada is a hell for cryptos, and has been for already a pretty long time (like with Ontario's situation for example). Btw, it's a good thing Binance isn't available to you, the fewer users they have (CEX, pool, partner sites) the better the crypto world will be.

To choose a pool, you can use the following web page, which shows the pools and the number of blocks solved by each of them for the last year (you can change the timeframe at the top)

https://mempool.space/fr/graphs/mining/pools#1y

It's up to you to explore them, and make your choice according to your personal situation. Some will put you under restrictions, others won't, some will have more or less variance in incomes, the choice is yours.
The most important thing is to choose a pool that pays fees to miners - I guess you don't want to deprive yourself of this source of income.

Also, regarding what I was asking about my miner, would it be possible to have 3 pools entered? Or only one?

The pool #2 will only be active when #1 is offline/dead.
The pool #3 will only be active when #2 is offline/dead.

Normally, almost all your shares will go to pool #1. Entering more than one is optional.

Thank you

[mikeywith]

The pool #2 will only be active when #1 is offline/dead.
The pool #3 will only be active when #2 is offline/dead.

Normally, almost all your shares will go to pool #1. Entering more than one is optional.

A small correction, pool 3# will only be activated when both pool #1 and pool #2 are not reachable, so think of them as
Main pool and secondary pools in order.

I think for now you should not waste more time on this, just start with Viabtc and then explore the other options.

[boggym777]

The pool #2 will only be active when #1 is offline/dead.
The pool #3 will only be active when #2 is offline/dead.

Normally, almost all your shares will go to pool #1. Entering more than one is optional.

A small correction, pool 3# will only be activated when both pool #1 and pool #2 are not reachable, so think of them as
Main pool and secondary pools in order.

I think for now you should not waste more time on this, just start with Viabtc and then explore the other options.

Not with Kano pool? I thought that Kano pool is the middle way...
OK, I got it.
Thank you

[boggym777]

The pool #2 will only be active when #1 is offline/dead.
The pool #3 will only be active when #2 is offline/dead.

Normally, almost all your shares will go to pool #1. Entering more than one is optional.

A small correction, pool 3# will only be activated when both pool #1 and pool #2 are not reachable, so think of them as
Main pool and secondary pools in order.

I think for now you should not waste more time on this, just start with Viabtc and then explore the other options.

I forgot to ask you. Due to the fact that binance does not have a presence in Canada, wouldn't it be possible to use its US presence for instance? Or is it not allowed?
Thank you

[paid2]

I forgot to ask you. Due to the fact that binance does not have a presence in Canada, wouldn't it be possible to use its US presence for instance? Or is it not allowed?

No, you won't be able to use Binance.us
Binance.us will require US citizenship + US POA

To tell you how impossible this is: when I worked for Binance.com,, we continually had the problem of having Canadian users from Quebec blocked by the site. At the time, only Ontario was blacklisted, not the whole country. So why were users from Quebec blocked? Because their ISP assigned them an Ontario IP randomly. And for these users, the process of unblocking their account was long and complicated. So you can imagine now... even with a VPN you will be blocked because of your KYC process.

Similarly, you're allowed to use Binance.com if you're French, have a French passport and a French POA. Binance.com is even regulated in France, with an address near Paris.
However, you can find yourself banned from using the site even with LEGIT documents. But why? If, for example, you were born in Iran, emigrated to France and obtained French nationality. Your passport / ID will show your place of birth as: IRAN - Teheran for example.
Since Iran is on the blacklisted countries list, even if you're only BORN there, and have a legal nationality in the EU, you can't use their services.

It's sometimes difficult to cheat the system, and often easier to find a more appropriate solution right from the start.

Not with Kano pool? I thought that Kano pool is the middle way...

Yeap but it is a small pool. If the pool is not lucky, you can maybe wait and mine for years before the pool find a block. So if you can afford to pay your elecricity without any earning for a possible very long time, Kano's pool is great and has a great support via Discord.

If you want to make more frequent withdrawals, for example to pay bills, it's better to use a pool that has more hashrate and therefore finds blocks more often.

[boggym777]

I forgot to ask you. Due to the fact that binance does not have a presence in Canada, wouldn't it be possible to use its US presence for instance? Or is it not allowed?

No, you won't be able to use Binance.us
Binance.us will require US citizenship + US POA

To tell you how impossible this is: when I worked for Binance.com,, we continually had the problem of having Canadian users from Quebec blocked by the site. At the time, only Ontario was blacklisted, not the whole country. So why were users from Quebec blocked? Because their ISP assigned them an Ontario IP randomly. And for these users, the process of unblocking their account was long and complicated. So you can imagine now... even with a VPN you will be blocked because of your KYC process.

Similarly, you're allowed to use Binance.com if you're French, have a French passport and a French POA. Binance.com is even regulated in France, with an address near Paris.
However, you can find yourself banned from using the site even with LEGIT documents. But why? If, for example, you were born in Iran, emigrated to France and obtained French nationality. Your passport / ID will show your place of birth as: IRAN - Teheran for example.
Since Iran is on the blacklisted countries list, even if you're only BORN there, and have a legal nationality in the EU, you can't use their services.

It's sometimes difficult to cheat the system, and often easier to find a more appropriate solution right from the start.

Not with Kano pool? I thought that Kano pool is the middle way...

Thank you. I got it. I had no idea that Canada is so "well" viewed in the BTC world ...
ViaBTC it is then.
Have a great day

Yeap but it is a small pool. If the pool is not lucky, you can maybe wait and mine for years before the pool find a block. So if you can afford to pay your elecricity without any earning for a possible very long time, Kano's pool is great and has a great support via Discord.

If you want to make more frequent withdrawals, for example to pay bills, it's better to use a pool that has more hashrate and therefore finds blocks more often.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

...
Yeap but it is a small pool. If the pool is not lucky, you can maybe wait and mine for years before the pool find a block.
...

Um, when solo mining the size of the pool is irrelevant... All that matters is YOUR hash rate and YOUR luck. That said, kano has several nodes spread across the planet so one should be near you.

[paid2]

...
Yeap but it is a small pool. If the pool is not lucky, you can maybe wait and mine for years before the pool find a block.
...

Um, when solo mining the size of the pool is irrelevant... All that matters is YOUR hash rate and YOUR luck. That said, kano has several nodes spread across the planet so one should be near you.

I believe OP changed his mind in page 2 and is looking for a PPLNS or PPS pool. If not, of course for solo mining, the size of the pool is indeed irrelevant to take into consideration.

[boggym777]

The pool #2 will only be active when #1 is offline/dead.
The pool #3 will only be active when #2 is offline/dead.

Normally, almost all your shares will go to pool #1. Entering more than one is optional.

A small correction, pool 3# will only be activated when both pool #1 and pool #2 are not reachable, so think of them as
Main pool and secondary pools in order.

I think for now you should not waste more time on this, just start with Viabtc and then explore the other options.

What about the Foundry pool? I saw that the fee is only 2.5% ...
I am just asking

[mikeywith]

What about the Foundry pool? I saw that the fee is only 2.5% ...
I am just asking

1- It is KYCed, meaning you need to expose your identity, and probably source of funds and that b.s to the U.S government.
2-it is way too large and shouldn't be supported any further.

So it is up to you, if you think the 1.5% difference is worth KYCing yourself or not.

[boggym777]

What about the Foundry pool? I saw that the fee is only 2.5% ...
I am just asking

1- It is KYCed, meaning you need to expose your identity, and probably source of funds and that b.s to the U.S government.
2-it is way too large and shouldn't be supported any further.

So it is up to you, if you think the 1.5% difference is worth KYCing yourself or not.

Got that.
Thank you

[kano]

Since the subject is 'solo', use my solo pool - it's only 0.5% fee and no KYC

[boggym777]

Since the subject is 'solo', use my solo pool - it's only 0.5% fee and no KYC

Thank you very much かの.
I will see. Maybe after I will be more experienced in mining, I will use your pool, OK?

[boggym777]

Hi guys,
I just found out from my Antminer seller about 2 other pools:
- antpool
- nicehash
What do you think of them? Are they worth trying?
Thank you

[kano]

Hi guys,
I just found out from my Antminer seller about 2 other pools:
- antpool

Requires KYC and PPLNS fees hidden as 0 fees, but in fact just a lie coz they take all txn fees.

- nicehash

Massive fees hidden under jargon and require KYC.

[boggym777]

Hi guys,
I just found out from my Antminer seller about 2 other pools:
- antpool

Requires KYC and PPLNS fees hidden as 0 fees, but in fact just a lie coz they take all txn fees.

- nicehash

Massive fees hidden under jargon and require KYC.

Thank you very much かの.
Have a great day.

[boggym777]

Hi all,
I checked yesterday with https://www.viperatech.com/ customer service and they suggested as pools antpool and braiins.
I heard kano's position on those. I managed to make an account on antpool and they did not ask for any KYC. Neither on braiins.
They also said something about f7pool, however I found some bad reviews about them.
What are your thoughts about this? With ViaBTC in almost 2 weeks I made with 63TH/s only 0.00052172 BTC. Is that normal?
Thank you

[paid2]

What are your thoughts about this? With ViaBTC in almost 2 weeks I made with 63TH/s only 0.00052172 BTC. Is that normal?

Seems low.
63 th/s with current difficulty should give you something like 0.0009 BTC per week on ViaBTC :




Are you mining constantly ? (I mean 24/7)

[boggym777]

What are your thoughts about this? With ViaBTC in almost 2 weeks I made with 63TH/s only 0.00052172 BTC. Is that normal?

Seems low.
63 th/s with current difficulty should give you something like 0.0009 BTC per week on ViaBTC :




Are you mining constantly ? (I mean 24/7)

Hi iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2,
As long as I had the miner (I returned it as one of the hash boards was not responding), it went 24/7, excluding the time when I did the troubleshooting as the 1st board ceased responding, so I would say that it was almost 27/7.
Therefore I would like to explore other pools, and the customer service from vipera tech was so kind to give me info about antpool and braiins.
I have yet to figure out how to do the testing in order to see which one is best for me. I guess I will mine one week with one, and another week with the other?
I will see what my intuition is telling me.
May the BTC be with you

PS I forgot to add that the payment I chose was PPS+, OK?