Solo mining help

[boggym777]

Hi philipma,

I tried to find the pools you mentioned above, and for ckpool & kano pool the browser did not want to go there saying that they have malware.
The only one that worked somehow was the viabtc pool.
As I am a new miner (I will be in short time), do you recommend viabtc pool over the braiins one? I know that braiins is very old, and somehow respectable, however I do not know too much about the fees, and other things a pool might have. I am in the process of documenting myself til my antminer arrives.

Thank you

Braiins isn't that old.
The name is very recent, and the pool was bought from someone else long after a number of pools existed (including after my pool existed)
Since they bought the pool there have been, on a few occasions, issues about them paying out less than expected due to pool issues that they ignored.
They also are pushing transaction bias, which is very bad for bitcoin.

Hi かの,
I appreciate your reply, and I understand what you say, however when I tried to get to setup an account for your pool, I got a message from FireFox saying that there is malicious content ahead, and forbid me to get there. Would you please tell me what URL is the one for your pool? I tried the same thing, as you can see from my reply above, to get to ckpool, and I had the same issue.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thank you

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[kano]

Hi philipma,

I tried to find the pools you mentioned above, and for ckpool & kano pool the browser did not want to go there saying that they have malware.
The only one that worked somehow was the viabtc pool.
As I am a new miner (I will be in short time), do you recommend viabtc pool over the braiins one? I know that braiins is very old, and somehow respectable, however I do not know too much about the fees, and other things a pool might have. I am in the process of documenting myself til my antminer arrives.

Thank you

Braiins isn't that old.
The name is very recent, and the pool was bought from someone else long after a number of pools existed (including after my pool existed)
Since they bought the pool there have been, on a few occasions, issues about them paying out less than expected due to pool issues that they ignored.
They also are pushing transaction bias, which is very bad for bitcoin.

Hi かの,
I appreciate your reply, and I understand what you say, however when I tried to get to setup an account for your pool, I got a message from FireFox saying that there is malicious content ahead, and forbid me to get there. Would you please tell me what URL is the one for your pool? I tried the same thing, as you can see from my reply above, to get to ckpool, and I had the same issue.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thank you

You'll have to tell firefox to allow it.
Nothing I can do about firefox lying.

[boggym777]

Hi philipma,

I tried to find the pools you mentioned above, and for ckpool & kano pool the browser did not want to go there saying that they have malware.
The only one that worked somehow was the viabtc pool.
As I am a new miner (I will be in short time), do you recommend viabtc pool over the braiins one? I know that braiins is very old, and somehow respectable, however I do not know too much about the fees, and other things a pool might have. I am in the process of documenting myself til my antminer arrives.

Thank you

Braiins isn't that old.
The name is very recent, and the pool was bought from someone else long after a number of pools existed (including after my pool existed)
Since they bought the pool there have been, on a few occasions, issues about them paying out less than expected due to pool issues that they ignored.
They also are pushing transaction bias, which is very bad for bitcoin.

Hi かの,
I appreciate your reply, and I understand what you say, however when I tried to get to setup an account for your pool, I got a message from FireFox saying that there is malicious content ahead, and forbid me to get there. Would you please tell me what URL is the one for your pool? I tried the same thing, as you can see from my reply above, to get to ckpool, and I had the same issue.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thank you

You'll have to tell firefox to allow it.
Nothing I can do about firefox lying.

I understand.
Would you please be so kind and give me the URL for the pool so that I can try again?
Thank you

[NotFuzzyWarm]

It's the 1st thing in Kano's sig...
https://kano.is

[mikeywith]

I tried to find the pools you mentioned above, and for ckpool & kano pool the browser did not want to go there saying that they have malware.

Ckpool (the normal pool) is no longer running, there is only the solo version of it online, and you probably don't want to use that unless you know what you are doing, the correct link to it is https://solo.ckpool.org/

Kano pool is a small pool that doesn't find blocks way too often and thus you will likely have to wait for way too long to get paid, in theory, eventually, the payout should be higher than the other pools since it has the lowest fees, I personally don't like to bear such variance, but to each his own idea.

Viabtc is a good pool that has all 3 payment methods PPS+ , PPLNS and Solo, you said you got the link to it, so i won't post it.

[Biffa]

I tried to find the pools you mentioned above, and for ckpool & kano pool the browser did not want to go there saying that they have malware.

Kano pool is a small pool that doesn't find blocks way too often and thus you will likely have to wait for way too long to get paid, in theory, eventually, the payout should be higher than the other pools since it has the lowest fees, I personally don't like to bear such variance, but to each his own idea.

@op They say they have malware because they are associated with or have downloads of cgminer on them and some web filters eroneously consider any site with miner software downloads is a trojan/virus/compromised site.

With regards to small pools, of course the variance is directly related to the hashrate of the pool, so the more people mine there the less the variance affects the outcome.

Some people are super sensitive to variance, even on large pools, they jump ship when there is a run of bad luck.

Using these smaller pools and boosting their hashrate may be a good way of getting around the larger pools becoming more and more restrictive with sign-up requirements and lack of anonymity.

[boggym777]

It's the 1st thing in Kano's sig...
https://kano.is

I clicked on the link you posted, and FireFox displayed me that:

Secure Connection Failed

An error occurred during a connection to kano.is. PR_CONNECT_RESET_ERROR

Error code: PR_CONNECT_RESET_ERROR

    The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
    Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.

[boggym777]

I tried to find the pools you mentioned above, and for ckpool & kano pool the browser did not want to go there saying that they have malware.

Ckpool (the normal pool) is no longer running, there is only the solo version of it online, and you probably don't want to use that unless you know what you are doing, the correct link to it is https://solo.ckpool.org/

Kano pool is a small pool that doesn't find blocks way too often and thus you will likely have to wait for way too long to get paid, in theory, eventually, the payout should be higher than the other pools since it has the lowest fees, I personally don't like to bear such variance, but to each his own idea.

Viabtc is a good pool that has all 3 payment methods PPS+ , PPLNS and Solo, you said you got the link to it, so i won't post it.

Thank you very much for your response.
I think I will stay with ViaBTC as it was the only one that opened properly.

[mikeywith]

Thank you very much for your response.
I think I will stay with ViaBTC as it was the only one that opened properly.

Viabtc is a good pool, however, using only the fact that stupid firefox opened that without an issue unlike the rest of the pools is a terrible idea, it should not be your point of judgment, most browsers and security applications are stupid and paranoid over anything crypto.

Did you try a different browser?

[boggym777]

Thank you very much for your response.
I think I will stay with ViaBTC as it was the only one that opened properly.

Viabtc is a good pool, however, using only the fact that stupid firefox opened that without an issue unlike the rest of the pools is a terrible idea, it should not be your point of judgment, most browsers and security applications are stupid and paranoid over anything crypto.

Did you try a different browser?

No, I tried only FireFox. I trust it because it is also open source. Should I try with Chrome & Edge, or something else?
Thank you

[boggym777]

Thank you very much for your response.
I think I will stay with ViaBTC as it was the only one that opened properly.

Viabtc is a good pool, however, using only the fact that stupid firefox opened that without an issue unlike the rest of the pools is a terrible idea, it should not be your point of judgment, most browsers and security applications are stupid and paranoid over anything crypto.

Did you try a different browser?

I just tried Chrome and Edge for Kano's pool and they both told me that the site does not exist.
I also tried on both the URL you suggested https://solo.ckpool.org/, and I got the message that it is not secure, so it would not let me connect.
Also my antivirus sent me a notification that the site has malware ...

[boggym777]

Thank you very much for your response.
I think I will stay with ViaBTC as it was the only one that opened properly.

Viabtc is a good pool, however, using only the fact that stupid firefox opened that without an issue unlike the rest of the pools is a terrible idea, it should not be your point of judgment, most browsers and security applications are stupid and paranoid over anything crypto.

Did you try a different browser?

I tried on FireFox on my Apple laptop for https://solo.ckpool.org/, and it worked, so I guess my antivirus (from the company I work for) blocked it.
So your suggestion would be to use this one instead of ViaBTC? By the way, for ViaBTC I found this URL: www.viabtc.com, which is not like the other ones I saw ... Do you have by chance the "real" URL towards ViaBTC please?
Thank you again

[boggym777]

Hi philipma,

I tried to find the pools you mentioned above, and for ckpool & kano pool the browser did not want to go there saying that they have malware.
The only one that worked somehow was the viabtc pool.
As I am a new miner (I will be in short time), do you recommend viabtc pool over the braiins one? I know that braiins is very old, and somehow respectable, however I do not know too much about the fees, and other things a pool might have. I am in the process of documenting myself til my antminer arrives.

Thank you

Braiins isn't that old.
The name is very recent, and the pool was bought from someone else long after a number of pools existed (including after my pool existed)
Since they bought the pool there have been, on a few occasions, issues about them paying out less than expected due to pool issues that they ignored.
They also are pushing transaction bias, which is very bad for bitcoin.

Hi かの,
I appreciate your reply, and I understand what you say, however when I tried to get to setup an account for your pool, I got a message from FireFox saying that there is malicious content ahead, and forbid me to get there. Would you please tell me what URL is the one for your pool? I tried the same thing, as you can see from my reply above, to get to ckpool, and I had the same issue.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thank you

You'll have to tell firefox to allow it.
Nothing I can do about firefox lying.

Hi again かの,
I managed to connect to your pool using the FireFox on my Apple laptop. It seems that the antivirus I was having on my PC did not allow the connection.
So I should simply register on your pool, and use the settings suggested there when I configure my Antminer?
Thank you

[boggym777]

Thank you very much for your response.
I think I will stay with ViaBTC as it was the only one that opened properly.

Viabtc is a good pool, however, using only the fact that stupid firefox opened that without an issue unlike the rest of the pools is a terrible idea, it should not be your point of judgment, most browsers and security applications are stupid and paranoid over anything crypto.

Did you try a different browser?

I managed to connect to kano.is using FireFox on my laptop, so it seems that here too my antivirus was not allowing the connection.
So right now as I gained access to both these pools, the kano pool and the solo.ckpool
Is the ViaBTC a legit one? I mean the www.viabtc.com is a legit pool, or a copycat?
So right now from those 3, kano pool, solo.ckpool & viabitc, which one do you suggest to be more appropriate for a noob like me?
Thank you

[mikeywith]

Is the ViaBTC a legit one? I mean the www.viabtc.com is a legit pool, or a copycat?
So right now from those 3, kano pool, solo.ckpool & viabitc, which one do you suggest to be more appropriate for a noob like me?
Thank you

Yes the legit link is www.viabtc.com

As for which one to use you need to first understand that they are pretty different, and then decide for yourself:

solo.ckpool : is more of a gambling way of mining, it's either you hit a whole block and take home 6.25 BTC or earn nothing, there is a 99.99% change that you don't earn anything, but ya, a tiny little slim chance that you win big (not for serious mining but rather lottery way of mining)

Kano.is: it is a small PPLNS pool, given its hashrate, it doesn't find blocks as often, so you are going to need to wait for it to happen, if it hits a block a week after you join it, you would make more on that than mining on Viabtc for a few months or so, but it's also possible that you don't get any rewards for maybe a year.

Viabtc: a PPS pool with high fees where you are guaranteed to get daily payouts and not subject to luck, if the pool finds more block than "usual" they would keep the the extra, if they find less, they would pay you out of their own pocket, so you will operate on the basis of 100% - 4% fee regardless.

If this was to be measured against infinity, i.e if you were going to mine forever then the pool with the lowest fee would be the one to go for, but since that isn't the case, you are forced to pick one, you can think of the above three pools as

ck > very high risk - very high rewards
kano > medium risk - medium rewards
Viabtc > low risk - low rewards

There are other PPS pools with lower fees if you want to explore them such as Binance pool with 2.5% fee, but then you will be forced to use their exchange, i.e you can't set external payouts, they send you the payouts to your exchange wallet and then you take them out from there, so it might involve some KYC or your country might be banned by Binance.

But ya anyway, once you understand what you do you want to do with mining, picking the right pool for you would be a lot easier.

[boggym777]

Is the ViaBTC a legit one? I mean the www.viabtc.com is a legit pool, or a copycat?
So right now from those 3, kano pool, solo.ckpool & viabitc, which one do you suggest to be more appropriate for a noob like me?
Thank you

Yes the legit link is www.viabtc.com

As for which one to use you need to first understand that they are pretty different, and then decide for yourself:

solo.ckpool : is more of a gambling way of mining, it's either you hit a whole block and take home 6.25 BTC or earn nothing, there is a 99.99% change that you don't earn anything, but ya, a tiny little slim chance that you win big (not for serious mining but rather lottery way of mining)

Kano.is: it is a small PPLNS pool, given its hashrate, it doesn't find blocks as often, so you are going to need to wait for it to happen, if it hits a block a week after you join it, you would make more on that than mining on Viabtc for a few months or so, but it's also possible that you don't get any rewards for maybe a year.

Viabtc: a PPS pool with high fees where you are guaranteed to get daily payouts and not subject to luck, if the pool finds more block than "usual" they would keep the the extra, if they find less, they would pay you out of their own pocket, so you will operate on the basis of 100% - 4% fee regardless.

If this was to be measured against infinity, i.e if you were going to mine forever then the pool with the lowest fee would be the one to go for, but since that isn't the case, you are forced to pick one, you can think of the above three pools as

ck > very high risk - very high rewards
kano > medium risk - medium rewards
Viabtc > low risk - low rewards

There are other PPS pools with lower fees if you want to explore them such as Binance pool with 2.5% fee, but then you will be forced to use their exchange, i.e you can't set external payouts, they send you the payouts to your exchange wallet and then you take them out from there, so it might involve some KYC or your country might be banned by Binance.

But ya anyway, once you understand what you do you want to do with mining, picking the right pool for you would be a lot easier.

Thank you very much for your insights Mikeywith,
I saw in a video about setting up the Antminer S19 that I have, that it is also possible to have like 3 pools simultaneously. Do you think that it would be worth it to put those 3 together?
I mean Binance (I am in Canada so I do not think that it is banned), ck & kano?
Thank you

[boggym777]

Is the ViaBTC a legit one? I mean the www.viabtc.com is a legit pool, or a copycat?
So right now from those 3, kano pool, solo.ckpool & viabitc, which one do you suggest to be more appropriate for a noob like me?
Thank you

Yes the legit link is www.viabtc.com

As for which one to use you need to first understand that they are pretty different, and then decide for yourself:

solo.ckpool : is more of a gambling way of mining, it's either you hit a whole block and take home 6.25 BTC or earn nothing, there is a 99.99% change that you don't earn anything, but ya, a tiny little slim chance that you win big (not for serious mining but rather lottery way of mining)

Kano.is: it is a small PPLNS pool, given its hashrate, it doesn't find blocks as often, so you are going to need to wait for it to happen, if it hits a block a week after you join it, you would make more on that than mining on Viabtc for a few months or so, but it's also possible that you don't get any rewards for maybe a year.

Viabtc: a PPS pool with high fees where you are guaranteed to get daily payouts and not subject to luck, if the pool finds more block than "usual" they would keep the the extra, if they find less, they would pay you out of their own pocket, so you will operate on the basis of 100% - 4% fee regardless.

If this was to be measured against infinity, i.e if you were going to mine forever then the pool with the lowest fee would be the one to go for, but since that isn't the case, you are forced to pick one, you can think of the above three pools as

ck > very high risk - very high rewards
kano > medium risk - medium rewards
Viabtc > low risk - low rewards

There are other PPS pools with lower fees if you want to explore them such as Binance pool with 2.5% fee, but then you will be forced to use their exchange, i.e you can't set external payouts, they send you the payouts to your exchange wallet and then you take them out from there, so it might involve some KYC or your country might be banned by Binance.

But ya anyway, once you understand what you do you want to do with mining, picking the right pool for you would be a lot easier.

Actually it seems that Canada is restricted for binance ...

[mikeywith]

Actually it seems that Canada is restricted for binance ...

I didn't know that, but after a bit of research I found this

Binance’s exit from Canada
Binance took to Twitter on May 12, 2023 to announce their proactive departure from Canada. They cited that the Canadian marketplace was no longer tenable for them after the CSA released guidelines surrounding new regulatory procedures for non-registered crypto trading platforms.

https://creditcardgenius.ca/blog/binance-canada

Perhaps read more about it so that you know whom to vote for in the coming election,   many old farts are against anything crypto.

Well then, sadly, no 2.5% for you, you are going to need to pay the 4% on Viabtc, but ya it's worth it, they have a great app that you can use to monitor your hashrate, get notifications and all that, based on my own experience Viabtc has one of the best mobile apps.

[boggym777]

Actually it seems that Canada is restricted for binance ...

I didn't know that, but after a bit of research I found this

Binance’s exit from Canada
Binance took to Twitter on May 12, 2023 to announce their proactive departure from Canada. They cited that the Canadian marketplace was no longer tenable for them after the CSA released guidelines surrounding new regulatory procedures for non-registered crypto trading platforms.

https://creditcardgenius.ca/blog/binance-canada

Perhaps read more about it so that you know whom to vote for in the coming election,   many old farts are against anything crypto.

Well then, sadly, no 2.5% for you, you are going to need to pay the 4% on Viabtc, but ya it's worth it, they have a great app that you can use to monitor your hashrate, get notifications and all that, based on my own experience Viabtc has one of the best mobile apps.

Yeah, actually it is a young fart right now in charge. Hopefully not for long. As governments are exponents of centralization, would be a bit weird that a politician (like right now Robert Kennedy Jr.) or a government would support crypto as crypto is a symbol of decentralization. Our young fart however is on the extreme left, so he will never be in favour, and if he says he is, than this is a fat lie.
Do you by any chance know any other pools like binance? It is weird that I cannot connect to a pool in US for instance ...
Also, regarding what I was asking about my miner, would it be possible to have 3 pools entered? Or only one?
Thank you

[paid2]

Yeah, actually it is a young fart right now in charge. Hopefully not for long. As governments are exponents of centralization, would be a bit weird that a politician (like right now Robert Kennedy Jr.) or a government would support crypto as crypto is a symbol of decentralization. Our young fart however is on the extreme left, so he will never be in favour, and if he says he is, than this is a fat lie.
Do you by any chance know any other pools like binance? It is weird that I cannot connect to a pool in US for instance ...

Canada is a hell for cryptos, and has been for already a pretty long time (like with Ontario's situation for example). Btw, it's a good thing Binance isn't available to you, the fewer users they have (CEX, pool, partner sites) the better the crypto world will be.

To choose a pool, you can use the following web page, which shows the pools and the number of blocks solved by each of them for the last year (you can change the timeframe at the top)

https://mempool.space/fr/graphs/mining/pools#1y

It's up to you to explore them, and make your choice according to your personal situation. Some will put you under restrictions, others won't, some will have more or less variance in incomes, the choice is yours.
The most important thing is to choose a pool that pays fees to miners - I guess you don't want to deprive yourself of this source of income.

Also, regarding what I was asking about my miner, would it be possible to have 3 pools entered? Or only one?

The pool #2 will only be active when #1 is offline/dead.
The pool #3 will only be active when #2 is offline/dead.

Normally, almost all your shares will go to pool #1. Entering more than one is optional.