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August 19, 2023, 11:14:20 PM
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I think people's obsession in bitcoin investment is mostly about the profit, recently I rarely see people talk about how to make bitcoin legally used for purchasing goods. people always talk about profit. it is risky for newbie, if they only obsess with profit and don't learn many things that related to bitcoin then they maybe panic when bearish market trend come. I think it is important to always tell them that DCA is the best thing to do for them now.
I think ever before someone even tries to go into any investment, he or she might have done proper research about what he is probably getting his or her hand into so you dont end up regretting. As for the use of Bitcoin as an investment purpose, well it's pretty clear we humans just love wear to get profits from and it's no new thing again about the possible profits one could enquire through Bitcoin investment.

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August 20, 2023, 03:22:09 AM
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I don't perceive obsession and addiction as identical. As you mentioned, not all addictions or obsessions are inherently negative. Take, for instance, an addiction to assisting others—it's undoubtedly positive, and you should persist. Conversely, being addicted to drugs is detrimental. Similar to this, being addicted to Bitcoin isn't harmful, but gambling can be. Occasionally, even if not actively trading, I find myself checking Bitcoin's price multiple times daily. This sort of addiction actually benefits me, aiding in decision-making.

Once called addiction, nothing is good, whether you are addicted to bitcoin or addicted to work is bad. why don't they call you bitcoin enthusiast, passionate about your work but they call you a bitcoin junkie, workaholic and neglecting everything else?  when you are addicted to investing in bitcoin, you will sell all your assets invested in it, you fast, torture yourself just because you want to save to invest bitcoin, so is it good?  you are confusing addiction with passion.

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August 20, 2023, 05:09:34 AM
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Once called addiction, nothing is good, whether you are addicted to bitcoin or addicted to work is bad. why don't they call you bitcoin enthusiast, passionate about your work but they call you a bitcoin junkie, workaholic and neglecting everything else?  when you are addicted to investing in bitcoin, you will sell all your assets invested in it, you fast, torture yourself just because you want to save to invest bitcoin, so is it good?  you are confusing addiction with passion.
I don't think selling all of your assets and invest in Bitcoin is torturing yourself, Bitcoin is a currency, similar like you has a lot fiat in banks.

In the current modern era, I always hear about work life balance where you're working from nine to five for five days, get paid well and having fun with your wage. But I don't feel happy only work for 5 days to earn a money that will not able to make me become rich, so I choose to use my free time to get a side job. Maybe some people will say it's workaholic and it's not good, but I'm more happy with my current situation, that mean you can't always think people are same like you.

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August 20, 2023, 09:24:56 AM
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Once called addiction, nothing is good, whether you are addicted to bitcoin or addicted to work is bad. why don't they call you bitcoin enthusiast, passionate about your work but they call you a bitcoin junkie, workaholic and neglecting everything else?  when you are addicted to investing in bitcoin, you will sell all your assets invested in it, you fast, torture yourself just because you want to save to invest bitcoin, so is it good?  you are confusing addiction with passion.
I don't think selling all of your assets and invest in Bitcoin is torturing yourself, Bitcoin is a currency, similar like you has a lot fiat in banks.

In the current modern era, I always hear about work life balance where you're working from nine to five for five days, get paid well and having fun with your wage. But I don't feel happy only work for 5 days to earn a money that will not able to make me become rich, so I choose to use my free time to get a side job. Maybe some people will say it's workaholic and it's not good, but I'm more happy with my current situation, that mean you can't always think people are same like you.
Fiat is an old, useless thing from the past. Bitcoin is the future, and if you dont admit that its better, you're happy to be tied down to old banking systems. History is full of examples of societies that either embraced the new or fell behind. You can choose which side you want to be on in history.

In your rant about work-life balance, dont think that your short-sightedness makes you smart. Taking on a side job in your spare time? So, that's how you plan to avoid being average? While the sheep work their boring 9-to-5 jobs, you and people like you are just playing the same game in a slightly different way. Open your eyes; the grid is very big. If you keep looking through such a narrow lens, you wont be able to see the full range of possibilities. Just remember that other people have been where you are and seen the bigger picture.

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August 20, 2023, 04:55:29 PM
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It is conventionally taken that obsession to something is bad(wrong) and people are mainly advised to do away with behaviours of obsession to anything as it could result to their harm. And on this note I want us to look into bitcoin obsession, discussing objectively about it without sentiment or prejudice for the sake of  impacting rational knowledge in the course of the discuss.

But before we proceed you might wanna have a refreshing definition/meaning of obsession. According to the Britannica dictionary, obsession is a state in which someone thinks about someone or something constantly or frequently especially in a way that is not normal. While, the Oxford dictionary defines it as an idea or thought that continually preoccupies or intrudes on a person's mind.

Now, it is undeniable and an underlying fact that bitcoin possesses multiple advantageous features spanning from anonymity, decentralization, cancellation of third party, pseudonymity, P2P etc, all encapsulated towards financial freedom.

With obsession when it's gambling we give a strong NO with our reasons attached cause obsession is just another form of addiction. So lets talk about obsession (addiction) to bitcoin. I felt in a way it might help bitcoin enthusiasts like myself and others to knows  and understand in clear terms if bitcoin obsession is bad(wrong) or not.

If being obsessed with money is wrong then everyone in this world is wrong which is enough to prove that there is nothing wrong with being obsessed in making more money but what matters is how they make it. If they are making it via illegal ways by means of law then the person has to face the consequences of it but please can we get rid of comparing bitcoin with gambling and addiction cause it isn't a fair comparison at all?

So let's say being obsessed with Bitcoin is fine until the person is not doing any harm to them physically and mentally like not watching the price charts 24/7 which will make them anxious and further problems financially and health related. It's not bad as long as they are making it within legal and ethical boundaries, and one doesn't neglect other important aspects of life in the process.









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August 20, 2023, 05:32:16 PM
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I’ve been involved with bitcoin close to a decade and I’ve met my fair share of people who are obsessed with it. But in the last decade I think the biggest obsession was that family who sold their house and all possessions and bought Bitcoin with it and were going to live in a RV or some camp.

This was in 2015 or so and I think they paid during the end of the bull market. So they must of endured some pain but if they held they would of been multi millionaires. If anyone know which family I am talking about and you know the outcome let me know. Wondering how they made it out.

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August 20, 2023, 05:42:10 PM
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It is conventionally taken that obsession to something is bad(wrong) and people are mainly advised to do away with behaviours of obsession to anything as it could result to their harm. And on this note I want us to look into bitcoin obsession, discussing objectively about it without sentiment or prejudice for the sake of  impacting rational knowledge in the course of the discuss.

But before we proceed you might wanna have a refreshing definition/meaning of obsession. According to the Britannica dictionary, obsession is a state in which someone thinks about someone or something constantly or frequently especially in a way that is not normal. While, the Oxford dictionary defines it as an idea or thought that continually preoccupies or intrudes on a person's mind.

Now, it is undeniable and an underlying fact that bitcoin possesses multiple advantageous features spanning from anonymity, decentralization, cancellation of third party, pseudonymity, P2P etc, all encapsulated towards financial freedom.

With obsession when it's gambling we give a strong NO with our reasons attached cause obsession is just another form of addiction. So lets talk about obsession (addiction) to bitcoin. I felt in a way it might help bitcoin enthusiasts like myself and others to knows  and understand in clear terms if bitcoin obsession is bad(wrong) or not.

If being obsessed with money is wrong then everyone in this world is wrong which is enough to prove that there is nothing wrong with being obsessed in making more money but what matters is how they make it. If they are making it via illegal ways by means of law then the person has to face the consequences of it but please can we get rid of comparing bitcoin with gambling and addiction cause it isn't a fair comparison at all?

So let's say being obsessed with Bitcoin is fine until the person is not doing any harm to them physically and mentally like not watching the price charts 24/7 which will make them anxious and further problems financially and health related. It's not bad as long as they are making it within legal and ethical boundaries, and one doesn't neglect other important aspects of life in the process.

Obsession is different from necessity. Ofcourse everyone has the drive to earn money but it would be another story if we would talk about obsession. Obsession means you'd do something no matter what circumstances you would face or encounter. On the other hand, it won't also be a good thing to be obsessed with Bitcoin. It is okay to have investments into it but diversification will still be more advisable. Bitcoin indeed has a higher market price volatility but that won't guarantee big profit already 'coz in line with its volatility issues, are instances wherein the market price would fall. Gambling addiction indeed is different with Bitcoin investment but both has risk, so you decide where to engage yourself with.

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August 20, 2023, 10:43:43 PM
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Obsession is different from necessity. Ofcourse everyone has the drive to earn money but it would be another story if we would talk about obsession. Obsession means you'd do something no matter what circumstances you would face or encounter. On the other hand, it won't also be a good thing to be obsessed with Bitcoin. It is okay to have investments into it but diversification will still be more advisable. Bitcoin indeed has a higher market price volatility but that won't guarantee big profit already 'coz in line with its volatility issues, are instances wherein the market price would fall. Gambling addiction indeed is different with Bitcoin investment but both has risk, so you decide where to engage yourself with.

You are right, there is a difference between obsession and necessity.  Investing in Bitcoin can be an interesting choice, but it is important to consider diversification to mitigate the risks associated with its volatility.  Addiction to gambling and investing carries risks, so consider your financial decisions carefully.
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August 20, 2023, 11:28:29 PM
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It is conventionally taken that obsession to something is bad(wrong) and people are mainly advised to do away with behaviours of obsession to anything as it could result to their harm. And on this note I want us to look into bitcoin obsession, discussing objectively about it without sentiment or prejudice for the sake of  impacting rational knowledge in the course of the discuss.

But before we proceed you might wanna have a refreshing definition/meaning of obsession. According to the Britannica dictionary, obsession is a state in which someone thinks about someone or something constantly or frequently especially in a way that is not normal. While, the Oxford dictionary defines it as an idea or thought that continually preoccupies or intrudes on a person's mind.

Now, it is undeniable and an underlying fact that bitcoin possesses multiple advantageous features spanning from anonymity, decentralization, cancellation of third party, pseudonymity, P2P etc, all encapsulated towards financial freedom.

With obsession when it's gambling we give a strong NO with our reasons attached cause obsession is just another form of addiction. So lets talk about obsession (addiction) to bitcoin. I felt in a way it might help bitcoin enthusiasts like myself and others to knows  and understand in clear terms if bitcoin obsession is bad(wrong) or not.

If being obsessed with money is wrong then everyone in this world is wrong which is enough to prove that there is nothing wrong with being obsessed in making more money but what matters is how they make it. If they are making it via illegal ways by means of law then the person has to face the consequences of it but please can we get rid of comparing bitcoin with gambling and addiction cause it isn't a fair comparison at all?

Take note of the word obsession.  Like money is ok, loving money is ok but being obsessed with money is definitely not ok.  I think we need to pay attention to the word attached to how a person look at a thing.  This time it is an obsession, and we all know that obsession (those who know the meaning of obsession) is not a good thing unless a person does not know what obsession means.

So let's say being obsessed with Bitcoin is fine until the person is not doing any harm to them physically and mentally like not watching the price charts 24/7 which will make them anxious and further problems financially and health related. It's not bad as long as they are making it within legal and ethical boundaries, and one doesn't neglect other important aspects of life in the process.

Here is a medical article about obsession, this might be a good read, while others give informative positive facts about obsession, but the word obsession itself is negative.  Being motivated and having passion is very different from obsession.
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August 21, 2023, 05:26:57 AM
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Once called addiction, nothing is good, whether you are addicted to bitcoin or addicted to work is bad. why don't they call you bitcoin enthusiast, passionate about your work but they call you a bitcoin junkie, workaholic and neglecting everything else?  when you are addicted to investing in bitcoin, you will sell all your assets invested in it, you fast, torture yourself just because you want to save to invest bitcoin, so is it good?  you are confusing addiction with passion.
I don't think selling all of your assets and invest in Bitcoin is torturing yourself, Bitcoin is a currency, similar like you has a lot fiat in banks.

In the current modern era, I always hear about work life balance where you're working from nine to five for five days, get paid well and having fun with your wage. But I don't feel happy only work for 5 days to earn a money that will not able to make me become rich, so I choose to use my free time to get a side job. Maybe some people will say it's workaholic and it's not good, but I'm more happy with my current situation, that mean you can't always think people are same like you.

Are you using bitcoin for your daily expenses? Or are you still using fiat, so how can you call bitcoin a currency?  tell me, other than bitcoin, is there any other highly volatile currency that can lose 10% in 1 hour like what happened in the last few days? Please let me know.  when you use bitcoin to pay your daily bills, and you have completely eliminated fiat from your life, I will believe bitcoin is currency.

And do you see me complaining about taking more jobs to get rich?  what I am trying to say is that I want to distinguish between addiction and passion because many people are still thinking that addiction is good.  if addiction is good, why is it always associated with social evils when we have the word "passion" to describe positive behaviors?

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August 21, 2023, 06:55:33 PM
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I think people's obsession in bitcoin investment is mostly about the profit, recently I rarely see people talk about how to make bitcoin legally used for purchasing goods. people always talk about profit. it is risky for newbie, if they only obsess with profit and don't learn many things that related to bitcoin then they maybe panic when bearish market trend come. I think it is important to always tell them that DCA is the best thing to do for them now.
I think ever before someone even tries to go into any investment, he or she might have done proper research about what he is probably getting his or her hand into so you dont end up regretting. As for the use of Bitcoin as an investment purpose, well it's pretty clear we humans just love wear to get profits from and it's no new thing again about the possible profits one could enquire through Bitcoin investment.
A lot of people, specifically newbies, don't do any research before making their first investments in cryptocurrencies, they might hear someone praising a certain cryptocurrency, talking about how much profit it can provide in such a short period of time, what kind of benefits it provides to its users, how much interest one can get for holding a certain amount of tokens, etc. All these are said for certain altcoins and newbies start investing without any proper research.

A very large number of investors lose money just because someone in one side of the world has misused the name of blockchain and cryptocurrencies and created a platform to fool newbies promising them good returns on their investments and a lot of benefits while running away with their money at the end.

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August 22, 2023, 05:51:49 AM
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So let's say being obsessed with Bitcoin is fine until the person is not doing any harm to them physically and mentally like not watching the price charts 24/7 which will make them anxious and further problems financially and health related. It's not bad as long as they are making it within legal and ethical boundaries, and one doesn't neglect other important aspects of life in the process.

Here is a medical article about obsession, this might be a good read, while others give informative positive facts about obsession, but the word obsession itself is negative.  Being motivated and having passion is very different from obsession.
Don't take things too far, and talking about money/bitcoin is not the same with OCD so let's be realistic. Everyone wants money and matter how much they have whether he is middle class or the richest person on this planet it's rare to see someone say okay I made enough money now I am going to spend time with others.

obsession-a person or thing that you think about too much.

That is why I said it is okay if they are interested/obsessed with making money as long as they lead a balanced life.









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August 22, 2023, 11:50:54 AM
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It is conventionally taken that obsession to something is bad(wrong) and people are mainly advised to do away with behaviours of obsession to anything as it could result to their harm. And on this note I want us to look into bitcoin obsession, discussing objectively about it without sentiment or prejudice for the sake of  impacting rational knowledge in the course of the discuss.

Been obsessed with Bitcoin or any other investment isn't a good thing, obsession will make you invest more than you can lose and that isn't a good investment decision because it'll make you uncomfortable when the market isn't moving in the direction that you thought before making that investment like when you invest thinking the market will pump but it dumps. Obsession is mostly associated with negative things that can lead to addiction which isn't good.

Don't get obsessed with Bitcoin investment, invest with the understanding that the market is volatile and unpredictable, some individual sell everything they have to buy Bitcoin and this make them uncomfortable when the market is dumping and they won't have patience to hold.

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You are right, there is a difference between obsession and necessity.  Investing in Bitcoin can be an interesting choice, but it is important to consider diversification to mitigate the risks associated with its volatility.  Addiction to gambling and investing carries risks, so consider your financial decisions carefully.
It becomes an obsession for many and trading has that effect on people. However as long as it is not posing a problem for yourself your family and your work it is fine. For example, if a trader is worrying too much about bitcoin prices and checking the prices every few hours then it is a problem and they may need to stop trading. I can see that this term is more applicable to new entrant traders specially in the day trading segment. Seasoned traders have worked over the obsession.

I see most of the obsession coming from the trading point of view, I guess the tech dont matter to anyone? Grin

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You are right, there is a difference between obsession and necessity.  Investing in Bitcoin can be an interesting choice, but it is important to consider diversification to mitigate the risks associated with its volatility.  Addiction to gambling and investing carries risks, so consider your financial decisions carefully.


I see most of the obsession coming from the trading point of view, I guess the tech dont matter to anyone? Grin
Actually the tech does matter equally as does the trading aspect, just that obsession in the tech is not as prevalence as it is in  trading and that's attributed to the crowded number of cryptocurrency adopters two-thirds been mostly interested in trading.

Let's take the forum for instance, how many members do you see bump discussions topics in the technical boards of the forum like it's done in the other boards like trading discussion, beginners and help, bitcoin discussion etc. So the higher the number the higher the obsession effect is notice and importantly discussed, but that doesn't make the tech aspect of crypto not worthy of discussion regarding obsession.

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Bitcoin can change lives so yes I am willing to get obsessed with Bitcoin adoption, I know what I can do and I know when I am going over my boundary, too much of everything is bad but Bitcoin adoption is something I am willing to deep dive into and keep accumulating.

Is constant accumulation an obsession?

Because you can't keep accumulating Bitcoin if you don't love doing so, we accumulate because we know how valuable Bitcoin can be and it's something I enjoy doing.

I don't see myself landing in any kind of trouble because I am accumulating Bitcoin unless I go out and steal to buy more Bitcoin which is offensive.
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September 05, 2023, 11:58:04 PM
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Bitcoin can change lives so yes I am willing to get obsessed with Bitcoin adoption, I know what I can do and I know when I am going over my boundary, too much of everything is bad but Bitcoin adoption is something I am willing to deep dive into and keep accumulating.

Is constant accumulation an obsession?
In my opinion, if we still know the limits we can apply according to our financial conditions to accumulate Bitcoin, it does not constitute an obsession with Bitcoin.
I think it's more normal, everyone must do as you say. Because obsession, as I understand it has a more negative meaning and is a mental disorder that occurs in someone which involves something they really like and has a negative impact on them.
In my opinion, someone who experiences an obsession with Bitcoin usually goes too far and doesn't understand their limits in their efforts to collect Bitcoin and that will result in changes in behavior and cause negative emotional disturbances in them.

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It is conventionally taken that obsession to something is bad(wrong) and people are mainly advised to do away with behaviours of obsession to anything as it could result to their harm. And on this note I want us to look into bitcoin obsession, discussing objectively about it without sentiment or prejudice for the sake of  impacting rational knowledge in the course of the discuss.

But before we proceed you might wanna have a refreshing definition/meaning of obsession. According to the Britannica dictionary, obsession is a state in which someone thinks about someone or something constantly or frequently especially in a way that is not normal. While, the Oxford dictionary defines it as an idea or thought that continually preoccupies or intrudes on a person's mind.

Now, it is undeniable and an underlying fact that bitcoin possesses multiple advantageous features spanning from anonymity, decentralization, cancellation of third party, pseudonymity, P2P etc, all encapsulated towards financial freedom.

With obsession when it's gambling we give a strong NO with our reasons attached cause obsession is just another form of addiction. So lets talk about obsession (addiction) to bitcoin. I felt in a way it might help bitcoin enthusiasts like myself and others to knows  and understand in clear terms if bitcoin obsession is bad(wrong) or not.


Obsession by itself is not wrong, it is what you decide to do with it what it could tip the scales on one direction or another, for example it should be obvious that almost all the great minds that have lived and which made huge discoveries and formulated new theories were obsessed with their particular topic of interest, but since the outcomes of that obsession were positive for themselves and others no one can find fault on their obsession, and if anything we are happy they had it.
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If you ask me, I did say that there is nothing like Bitcoin obsession, Bitcoin is not addictive based on my own personal experience, at least, I have been in this space since 2016 and if bitcoin was addictive, I did be one of those that would have been very addicted or obsessed in bitcoin by now, so bitcoin is not addictive the same way gambling is, I think this is because of the fact that investing in bitcoin is not same as gambling.

People gamble because it is one of the quickest ways to make money for those that are lucky, since you are able to see the return on your investment in just a couple of seconds after clicking a button, and for sports betting, you just have to wait a few minutes of hours depending on when you placed your bet.
But when it comes to investing in bitcoin, its completely a different ball game, as you will have to wait several hours, days weeks, months and even years to find out what your return on investment is, this give no room of any kind to be addicted or obsessed in bitcoin.

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I think bitcoin obsession is not bad as long as we continue to benefit from investing in btc, I think most people become obsessed (addicted or like) with bitcoin because they have experienced the benefits that can be obtained from investing in btc. sometimes at first our become obsessed with btc because our see other people who are lucky because they invest in btc. until finally learning about btc and successfully investing in btc and getting profits and finally becoming obsessed with btc.
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