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December 31, 2023, 07:36:16 AM
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When we trade, of course we hope that we will get some money from it. But we can't expect extra money immediately when we trade because if we overestimate our bid we can lose money from there. Don't expect too much in trading, we can make profit if we sell immediately when the market goes up a little. The first thing in trading is knowledge is very important if we don't have knowledge about trading then we will never get success in trading.

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December 31, 2023, 09:01:01 AM
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Anytime trading becomes unfavorable, I think we need to look back and think of how we have trade in the market and ended up not making any progress at all. There are some times in our life which we have to think and make proper adjustments to improve in the way we di things. We can always make good decisions that would aid our improvement and increase the way we make profits in trading since trading is an axt we can work on and try and build to become more better than before.









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December 31, 2023, 09:13:00 AM
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What matters most in trading are three main factors, they includes: 1. Discipline, 2. Patience 3. Confidence. if you have figured out these three factors you will trade better than you have ever done because beyond this Three factors you see your trading been less profitable, a disciplined and confident patient trader more often than none remains profitable than a trader who just base their trading decision on technical analysis.

Even when you have a good trading plans and strategy, you need the discipline and confidence to execute your trade plan perfectly and get the edge that makes you profitable and this will mean you been patient enough to see your confirmations before execution.
Even if we do say those are that main 3 factors to be followed or must have, then it is really that easy to say but it is really that to implement toward self because once you are really that stepping yourself into the world of trading then everything would really be that totally unpredictable and there would really be factors on which it would really be affecting you along the way. Even if you have set those kind of conditions and
mindset towards yourself on what you must do. Then you might really be that ended up on having those kind of change thoughts along the way.

This is why it would really be that important that you should really be that having strong will and mind if you are really that persevering on following those things you've set
then it would really be just that depending on you. Its hard but not impossible and this is something you should bare in mind. Expect the unexpected on which
this market could move unpredictably on which there's no one would really be able to know on where prices would be heading.

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December 31, 2023, 10:04:18 AM
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greed is the main factor. I've seen this in several people. Those who jump in here want to get rich quickly and they literally disappear within one to two months. if I ask them why they don't return to trading they will say trading is a scam, after I went back to dig up a lot of information it turns out they were carried away by the greed brought by several influencers. like flexing, this brings many beginners to trading, ultimately they lose and consider trading a scam.

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What matters most in trading are three main factors, they includes: 1. Discipline, 2. Patience 3. Confidence. if you have figured out these three factors you will trade better than you have ever done because beyond this Three factors you see your trading been less profitable, a disciplined and confident patient trader more often than none remains profitable than a trader who just base their trading decision on technical analysis.

Even when you have a good trading plans and strategy, you need the discipline and confidence to execute your trade plan perfectly and get the edge that makes you profitable and this will mean you been patient enough to see your confirmations before execution.
Those are very hard and difficult three factors and that means most people will not be able to get them all. I mean we are talking about something that would cause a lot of trouble, and people should figure out a way to master them all.

I know that rest will come easy, if you master these, then all you have to do is study and learn how to trade, and then you will have to just keep trading to gain more experience and you will become a great trader eventually. But for that road to be easy for you, first you need to have those three. Discipline is one of the hardest ones, there isn't a boss or a teacher or a parent making you do something anymore, it's just you and you alone, if you can't do it then nobody else will push you to do it.

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January 02, 2024, 10:47:45 AM
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Greed is always bad trading. Greed brings adversity.  Trading should be done with discretion.  Moreover, if you continue to trade in the same way and if the profits stop coming from there, it will also create adversity.  Trading depends on experience.  The more experienced the profit is more but I would say beginners should be satisfied with less profit rather than greedy.
Yeah is correct in saying that if greed works inside for trading you will not get success in trading. To trade is to understand the correct position of the market. Profiting from business is not as easy as it seems. Business has its own peculiarities and many challenges one must always be ready to face them. While there is no harm in asking for more it is bad to take a wrong step in the pursuit of more.

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January 03, 2024, 04:22:37 AM
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What matters most in trading are three main factors, they includes: 1. Discipline, 2. Patience 3. Confidence. if you have figured out these three factors you will trade better than you have ever done because beyond this Three factors you see your trading been less profitable, a disciplined and confident patient trader more often than none remains profitable than a trader who just base their trading decision on technical analysis.

Even when you have a good trading plans and strategy, you need the discipline and confidence to execute your trade plan perfectly and get the edge that makes you profitable and this will mean you been patient enough to see your confirmations before execution.
Those are very hard and difficult three factors and that means most people will not be able to get them all. I mean we are talking about something that would cause a lot of trouble, and people should figure out a way to master them all.

I know that rest will come easy, if you master these, then all you have to do is study and learn how to trade, and then you will have to just keep trading to gain more experience and you will become a great trader eventually. But for that road to be easy for you, first you need to have those three. Discipline is one of the hardest ones, there isn't a boss or a teacher or a parent making you do something anymore, it's just you and you alone, if you can't do it then nobody else will push you to do it.
You have said it all if you loose this three important factors you have lost the trade already even before starting,  Discipline Will make sure greed has no place in the trade, patience Wil make you build your profits over time and not rush into higher lot size that might not be favorable, confidence will make you believe in what you are doing and also keep you going, so I totally agree with this three factors
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January 03, 2024, 11:03:53 AM
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Anytime trading becomes unfavorable, I think we need to look back and think of how we have trade in the market and ended up not making any progress at all. There are some times in our life which we have to think and make proper adjustments to improve in the way we di things. We can always make good decisions that would aid our improvement and increase the way we make profits in trading since trading is an axt we can work on and try and build to become more better than before.
Observation and evaluation are also very necessary in monitoring and improving our trading performance in the market. And yes, sometimes we also know when to stop to rest and start researching all the trading history that we have gone through. And try to find where our mistakes lie. Is it because of greed or are we simply not able to read the market well? Because usually greed arises from us not really understanding market habits. Like a beginner who always hopes that prices will continue to rise and not fall again. So many beginners have excessive fear and become greedy by buying more when the price has reached its peak when conditions are actually overbought. And I see a lot of beginners who don't even know about this.

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January 03, 2024, 11:53:38 AM
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There are few factors that leads to unfavourable trading, these factors includes Greed, and chasing a trend, Traders are expected to encounter Challenges during trading and relating these challenges with people's experiences can be the key in solving the challenge, 
Sticking to the trading plan is also good to avoid unfavourable trade as changing plans in the middle of a trade Can really lead to a loss in trade.

If the trading pattern you stick to stops working for you, and you probably stop gaining profit from trading, then it is time to review other trading patterns and make some changes because no one wants to lose.

Greed is not always favorable, but following trends pays sometimes when you do good research about the trend and take caution before starting to follow the trend.

I believe that inasmuch as it's good to stick to a pertan in trading and follow it through, we shouldn't be too rigid because we might discover midway that we're charting in the wrong part. So what I think is that we should apply caution and patience while making trading decisions so we can get profitable results, I think that in some rare cases that it's ok to follow trends if you must, only that whatever decisions must be carefully thought out. Why I say this is because with the best trading pertans and perfect market analysis and predictions, traders still experience loses, so the trader can sometimes be dynamic and change a strategy when it's absolutely necessary.

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There are few factors that leads to unfavourable trading, these factors includes Greed, and chasing a trend, Traders are expected to encounter Challenges during trading and relating these challenges with people's experiences can be the key in solving the challenge, 
Sticking to the trading plan is also good to avoid unfavourable trade as changing plans in the middle of a trade Can really lead to a loss in trade.

If the trading pattern you stick to stops working for you, and you probably stop gaining profit from trading, then it is time to review other trading patterns and make some changes because no one wants to lose.

Greed is not always favorable, but following trends pays sometimes when you do good research about the trend and take caution before starting to follow the trend.

I believe that inasmuch as it's good to stick to a pertan in trading and follow it through, we shouldn't be too rigid because we might discover midway that we're charting in the wrong part. So what I think is that we should apply caution and patience while making trading decisions so we can get profitable results, I think that in some rare cases that it's ok to follow trends if you must, only that whatever decisions must be carefully thought out. Why I say this is because with the best trading pertans and perfect market analysis and predictions, traders still experience loses, so the trader can sometimes be dynamic and change a strategy when it's absolutely necessary.
Be versatile and be that easy to adjust on which i would say that it would really be that something that a must thing that you do when you do hover yourself towards into this market.
You would really be needing to be versatile since we do know that there would be things that we might be able to encounter on which it isnt really written on textbooks or could be seen those information on line on which
you would really be able to learn up things accordingly on the time that you do make up trades. Dont expect that you could really be able to perfect out trading because there are people who are really that perfectionist
on which they will really be that liking to make perfect trades on perfect time.

Unfavorable or non profitable trades is something that we can commonly be able to encounter. So it is really just that right that you would be needing to adjust accordingly basing up on the things
that you do met up. If you do lose, then try to dca but if it hits your SL then try to make some re-entry. Rinse and repeat on which it might not be that easy
but its not something impossible.

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greed is the main factor. I've seen this in several people. Those who jump in here want to get rich quickly and they literally disappear within one to two months. if I ask them why they don't return to trading they will say trading is a scam, after I went back to dig up a lot of information it turns out they were carried away by the greed brought by several influencers. like flexing, this brings many beginners to trading, ultimately they lose and consider trading a scam.

greed is bad because you want to make more money, but one of the things that it leads to is greed and that has made a lot of people select some risky options and behavior while they trade such as doing revenge trading and many more and action like that can cause liquidation, and while trading their is no magic that can be performed, you have to listen and learn because their is no way you suceesed in trading without learning then that trader will not go far. They will say trading is scam because they failed to start from the basics as they should. And they see it as a way to make fast money and it will be better to have fun with it rather than choosing money over it, than putting money first.

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January 03, 2024, 09:15:40 PM
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greed is the main factor. I've seen this in several people. Those who jump in here want to get rich quickly and they literally disappear within one to two months. if I ask them why they don't return to trading they will say trading is a scam, after I went back to dig up a lot of information it turns out they were carried away by the greed brought by several influencers. like flexing, this brings many beginners to trading, ultimately they lose and consider trading a scam.

greed is bad because you want to make more money, but one of the things that it leads to is greed and that has made a lot of people select some risky options and behavior while they trade such as doing revenge trading and many more and action like that can cause liquidation, and while trading their is no magic that can be performed, you have to listen and learn because their is no way you suceesed in trading without learning then that trader will not go far. They will say trading is scam because they failed to start from the basics as they should. And they see it as a way to make fast money and it will be better to have fun with it rather than choosing money over it, than putting money first.
On the time that you are already making yourself that greedy, then you cant really be able to assess now on whats good and whats bad on which the main thing that you would really be having on mind is on how you would really be able to make money on the fastest way as possible. When desperation do kicks in then this is where problem would be starting. We should really be that realizing that trading is never been simple and not something to be that predictable on which there would really be moments or times on which our trading positions and calls wont really be that profitable and this is why it would really be always that best that we should really know to adjust if ever there would really be situations like these. There's no way that you could really be able to make things works according into your plan. Results or outcomes would really be that totally different to each other
on which it would really be just that right that you do really need to make out some adjustments if ever things turns out to be bitter.

When times becomes that unfavorable then it would be always best that you should really know on how to adjust. Dont make yourself that comes into a point that you do become
a gambler on where you wont really be following any trading fundamentals just because you had just lost up that control.

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January 03, 2024, 11:16:10 PM
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There are few factors that leads to unfavourable trading, these factors includes Greed, and chasing a trend, Traders are expected to encounter Challenges during trading and relating these challenges with people's experiences can be the key in solving the challenge, 
Sticking to the trading plan is also good to avoid unfavourable trade as changing plans in the middle of a trade Can really lead to a loss in trade.

Some people have understand that much profit in trading is what that leads for many things that have to do with trading and I understand that trading is like something we know that it deals with basic understanding before you will become successful in it, greediness is a way that have ruined people in trading and have made them to lose many chances of making profit in trading but the couldn't understand the basics way of trading from my ways of understanding trading directly or not, so trading is good but is to follow the precautions of trading and also pay attention to learn and understand the basic functions of trading.

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so trading is good but is to follow the precautions of trading and also pay attention to learn and understand the basic functions of trading.
Pay attention to what matters and that is what you are learning with your losses. There are traders that are just taking their losses for granted and think that there's not that much to get from them. Yes, they're your losses but it's not just all about losing what lesson can you extract from that to make it worth it every experience of defeat with your trades. It's hard to take that in but it's essential for a trader to grow with those lessons so his future trades will be worth (not talking about future trading).



 

 

 

 

 

 


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so trading is good but is to follow the precautions of trading and also pay attention to learn and understand the basic functions of trading.
Pay attention to what matters and that is what you are learning with your losses. There are traders that are just taking their losses for granted and think that there's not that much to get from them. Yes, they're your losses but it's not just all about losing what lesson can you extract from that to make it worth it every experience of defeat with your trades. It's hard to take that in but it's essential for a trader to grow with those lessons so his future trades will be worth (not talking about future trading).

Any work we start without understanding the fully basic will first gives loss but if we don't give up and learn from our past mistakes then we could become a very experienced man of the field. Trading is not a complicated task to learn but one thing here is more which is uncertainty of profit or loss. we could just analyse the future market and nothing more than that while market can turn in any ways. Mostbof times analysis work but sometimes we could loss despite of following fully technical analysis. We have to choose a best strategy which minimize our risk and couldn't be panic from intitial loss.









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so trading is good but is to follow the precautions of trading and also pay attention to learn and understand the basic functions of trading.
Pay attention to what matters and that is what you are learning with your losses. There are traders that are just taking their losses for granted and think that there's not that much to get from them. Yes, they're your losses but it's not just all about losing what lesson can you extract from that to make it worth it every experience of defeat with your trades. It's hard to take that in but it's essential for a trader to grow with those lessons so his future trades will be worth (not talking about future trading).

Any work we start without understanding the fully basic will first gives loss but if we don't give up and learn from our past mistakes then we could become a very experienced man of the field. Trading is not a complicated task to learn but one thing here is more which is uncertainty of profit or loss. we could just analyse the future market and nothing more than that while market can turn in any ways. Mostbof times analysis work but sometimes we could loss despite of following fully technical analysis. We have to choose a best strategy which minimize our risk and couldn't be panic from intitial loss.
No one starts on being a pro on everything that we do on which there would really be always those times which we do really need to adjust and gain up experience for us to learn up everything along the way.
Unfavorable trades is really that part of the learning process on which due to lack of knowledge and experience, you are really that prone to mistakes and errors on which it would really be that normal that you would be needing to adjust if you are really that planning to make trading as a career or something that you would really be liking to deal up with long term. You should make yourself that prepared when it comes to emotion
and when it comes to mindset on which you should be sturdy considering this market is unpredictable on where you would really be able to encounter things which it might lead for you to become that impulsive.

Just like on what others been saying that you should really be making yourself that versatile and would really be able to adjust accordingly and this is something
that you would really be needing to do so for you to survive at least.

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when trading is not profitable is when we do not have our own fundamentals in trading. like we still follow other people's trading styles or we are carried away by influencers whose flexing in every trading content makes us want to get rich quickly like them. my friend told me "instead of following the signals it pays more satisfying to follow the signals yourself" now I understand what he means and the results are more satisfying.
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when trading is not profitable is when we do not have our own fundamentals in trading. like we still follow other people's trading styles or we are carried away by influencers whose flexing in every trading content makes us want to get rich quickly like them. my friend told me "instead of following the signals it pays more satisfying to follow the signals yourself" now I understand what he means and the results are more satisfying.
This is one of the many factors that will make trading unprofitable. We cannot deny that there are now many who offer trading signals that they say it will be very profitable, the fact that happens is not as easy as what is done. Many people who experience losses when they follow the signal, it proves that no signal is 100% correct. and also now many people take advantage of this, they open courses and provide signals as long as they give money to the person who opened the course. There are indeed some people who really do it, but now I see more people who make this just a business field that will benefit them only.

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when trading is not profitable is when we do not have our own fundamentals in trading. like we still follow other people's trading styles or we are carried away by influencers whose flexing in every trading content makes us want to get rich quickly like them. my friend told me "instead of following the signals it pays more satisfying to follow the signals yourself" now I understand what he means and the results are more satisfying.
I've also been in a phase where I trust other people's analysis and try to apply it to my trading and yeah sometimes it ends up being quite annoying. So when I learn to analyze I still see other people's signals but not to use them but to compare them with the analysis I have made. And I started re-analyzing every time I saw signals from other people. Because it is very bad if we believe in other people's analysis more than our own analysis. In the past, I also looked at other people's analyzes just for learning. And now I also have more confidence in my own analysis. But sometimes making comparisons and also looking at other people's analysis as an additional reference for our analysis is also not so bad.

And the most important thing is that we must not force ourselves to keep trading when our minds cannot focus. It's better to trade when we are in a good mood. Likewise, when our emotions are affected by experiencing a loss, it is better to stop for a moment to calm our minds and come back when we are calmer and have clearer thinking.

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January 04, 2024, 11:17:43 AM
 #180

I've also been in a phase where I trust other people's analysis and try to apply it to my trading and yeah sometimes it ends up being quite annoying. So when I learn to analyze I still see other people's signals but not to use them but to compare them with the analysis I have made. And I started re-analyzing every time I saw signals from other people. Because it is very bad if we believe in other people's analysis more than our own analysis. In the past, I also looked at other people's analyzes just for learning. And now I also have more confidence in my own analysis. But sometimes making comparisons and also looking at other people's analysis as an additional reference for our analysis is also not so bad.

And the most important thing is that we must not force ourselves to keep trading when our minds cannot focus. It's better to trade when we are in a good mood. Likewise, when our emotions are affected by experiencing a loss, it is better to stop for a moment to calm our minds and come back when we are calmer and have clearer thinking.
Most times other people's analysis might favour a particular trade even more than your own analysis, the same way your own analysis might as well favour you more than others people's analysis, which ever analysis you are using just bear in mind that the risk is all on you, you take responsibility if you make a profit or loss, so most times we are advised to use our own analysis in order to take full responsibility if we happen to be at loss,  and what ever analysis you taking you just try to be consistent with it in order to achieve maximum results.
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