Can personal message (PM) apare on ninjastic space?

[rachael9385]

With my whole time been in Bitcointalk I haven't gotten one thing clear, it might be because I haven't read the whole forum but I am still skeptical about my thoughts.
I want to know if I sent a user a personal message (PM) and I delete the massage, will the message sti spear in ninjastic space?
My reason for asking is because PM is a personal messager and if you delete a post in spare on ninjastic space so can personal message still spares in ninjastic space if I delete it?

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[Nwada001]

With my experience using the Nninjastic Space, I have not come across even seeing users messages talk more about the deleted part. I guess the tools are specified for scraping posts from different threads, both providing that they have been posted on the forum before being deleted.

Aside from other users who I might have come across there post where they said they can access users personal messages, which I still don't know how possible it is, if not, I don't think there is too much development that is being used within the forum that is able to access personal messages. It's one's privacy, and it should be respected unless there is some sort of investigation that could warrant that kind of searching, which I still don't find convenient.

[Solosanz]

Personal message is private and AFAIK only the administrators can view every users' personal message, since he's not an administrator, he can't scrap personal message.

If you doubt, you can try to copy paste one of your personal message you sent to someone and search it in ninjastic.space. I've tried it and found nothing.

[_act_]

Message is what is personal to you, you can not see it on ninjastuc.space.

These are what that you can search for on ninjasctic.space using their ID:

Post
Topic
Username
User ID
Address

Only you can see your messages. Admin can be able to see it too is my guess.

[FatFork]

My reason for asking is because PM is a personal messager and if you delete a post in spare on ninjastic space so can personal message still spares in ninjastic space if I delete it?

PMs (personal messages) cannot be archived on ninjastic.space since they are not publicly accessible (for obvious reasons). It doesn't really make a difference whether you delete the message or not, as they aren't archived on external sites to begin with.

[TryNinja]

All my bot can see are the public posts and merits.

Can you see other people’s PMs? No? Then my bot also can’t see it.

[ImThour]

All my bot can see are the public posts and merits.

Can you see other people’s PMs? No? Then my bot also can’t see it.

There you go with the reply from the actual developer of the ninjastic space. And I think it's pretty common, that a bot can only see information which is available online to be seen by the public.
If it's not there, it's not possible for the bot to track it. Unless everyone from their end provide the data themselves to some sort of Form which then later store it in DB associated with your forum user ID.

[Ndabagi01]

My reason for asking is because PM is a personal messager and if you delete a post in spare on ninjastic space so can personal message still spares in ninjastic space if I delete it?

If Ninjastic space may read personal messages, not every forum user will be in favour of it. PM; also known as personal message or private messages, is intended to be kept private and not intruded upon by any other party. If it breaches the rule of privacy, it is not worthy of the title (private or personal message).

[Faisal2202]

Hmm, i think you already had the idea of the whole scenario here that these data scalper tools can not extract personal data because moderators had not allowed these unofficial scalper tools to remove or not give them access to PMs.

And only Administrators could see the PMs but there are a lot of members here, But now we have many tools to read more in less time so that's not a problem for Theymos here but still why would they read your PMs and if you still doubt then the best practise is not to share your Personal information on these PMs.

[BIT-BENDER]

Aside from other users who I might have come across there post where they said they can access users personal messages, which I still don't know how possible it is, if not, I don't think there is too much development that is being used within the forum that is able to access personal messages. It's one's privacy, and it should be respected unless there is some sort of investigation that could warrant that kind of searching, which I still don't find convenient.

Personally I feel that being able to assess one's private message is a privacy bridge to me and that's wrong. Just like you I have not heard about anyone complain about this issue before, so it may not even be possible in the first place but you can never tell.

Regardless I find it unwise to send someone a message and then delete it, you should always watch out what you send to people it should be something you don't feel threatened about.

[348Judah]

I want to know if I sent a user a personal message (PM) and I delete the massage, will the message sti spear in ninjastic space?
My reason for asking is because PM is a personal messager and if you delete a post in spare on ninjastic space so can personal message still spares in ninjastic space if I delete it?

I post is made publicly for everyone to see and either you deleted  it or not it is already archived, but PM as you've called it is a personal message with the intention of not making its contents open to public, if not we all can spy to know what and what everyone sends or receives as PM, so personal message content is not visible with ninjastic space, i think the admin, moderators or staffs only could have access to something like that.

[SatoPrincess]

My reason for asking is because PM is a personal messager and if you delete a post in spare on ninjastic space so can personal message still spares in ninjastic space if I delete it?

No need to panic, both LoyceV’s bot and Ninjastic’s do not have access to personal messages. Pms are private information, only admin have access. But even if you delete the messages from your end, the receiver will still have a copy of the messages. Posting pms with another user is frowned upon for the most part, unless it is necessary like in a scam report situation.

[LoyceMobile]

Try https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386000.0 to publish PMs.

[Nwada001]

Regardless I find it unwise to send someone a message and then delete it, you should always watch out what you send to people it should be something you don't feel threatened about.

Exactly, as any message that was successfully sent has already been saved on the receiver's end, if it's something that contains important information that shouldn't be shared, then the sender has made the worst mistake, which can't be correct as deleting the message from the sender's side has nothing to do with the receiver unless the receiver decides to delete it from their end too.

[Fiatless]

With my whole time been in Bitcointalk I haven't gotten one thing clear, it might be because I haven't read the whole forum but I am still skeptical about my thoughts.
I want to know if I sent a user a personal message (PM) and I delete the massage, will the message sti spear in ninjastic space?
My reason for asking is because PM is a personal messager and if you delete a post in spare on ninjastic space so can personal message still spares in ninjastic space if I delete it?

I have seen people make their personal messages public in the forum to prove a point or defend themselves during accusations. But they do it at will because nobody can access it except the administrators . It is easy to see deleted posts from ninjastic but I have never seen personal messages on the space. Personal messages are for private discussion. And I have never also seen any incident where these administrators release the PM of any member to the public. But if you want to know more about privacy on the forum you can check this link: https://bitcointalk.org/privacy.php

Can personal message (PM) apare on ninjastic space?

OP you should consider correcting the mistake in the spelling of appear in the topic. It was difficult to get the idea of the thread from the topic until I read the content.

[coupable]

ninjastic space is an external website and has nothing related with forum administration or private databases. ninjastic space has nothing to do with users' personal messages. ninjastic space is to track posts/threads and users' activities like unedited deleted posts and mentions. Even moderators have no access to users' messages database, and only global admins (Theymos and Cyrus) have access to it.
There is already a discussion in Meta section about who has access to PM database: Privacy Concerns, Can Administrators and Mods Access Personal Messages?
The only way to receive a notification each time you get a forum personal message is by enabling email notifications because each time you receive a personal message you instantly receive an email.

[Woodie]

I want to know if I sent a user a personal message (PM) and I delete the massage, will the message sti spear in ninjastic space?

Let's just say that content/posts that appear on ninjastic.space is that which is publicly available to all, anything else is private communication between one user to the other..hence the term " personal message " unless with special privileges as explained above

My reason for asking is because PM is a personal messager and if you delete a post in spare on ninjastic space so can personal message still spares in ninjastic space if I delete it?

Ninjastic is limited to only scrap content which is publicly accessible...besides if third parties could easily see what people talk about in their private chats, do you think the forum would be a popular place...I don't think so!!

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

I want to know if I sent a user a personal message (PM) and I delete the massage, will the message sti spear in ninjastic space?
My reason for asking is because PM is a personal messager and if you delete a post in spare on ninjastic space so can personal message still spares in ninjastic space if I delete it?

It is personal message, not private message.

You and a user who in PM contact are not only two members who can read those Personal messages. Who are other people can read those personal messages?

They are core admins like theymos and Cyrus if they want or if they have request from governments, police ...

Fortunately, normal users (not core admins) like you, me and other members, can not read personal messages of other users. This means scrappers can not read those personal messages too.

[pakhitheboss]

Unless both parties ( receiver & sender) wants to disclose it to the public I don't think anyone else can read or scrap those messages. I am not sure whether the admin can access those messages as it is not disclosed to anyone. Furthermore why would ninjastic go after a users PM? Those messages doesn't won't provide any information that can be beneficial for the forum.

[Sim_card]

All my bot can see are the public posts and merits.

Can you see other people’s PMs? No? Then my bot also can’t see it.

As said by the developer above it is impossible since PM are confidential and not public. So don't be scared of people seeing and being able to read your PM. It is only if your account is hacked that the hacker can see everything in your PM.