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April 23, 2024, 11:28:42 AM
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Politics is a dirty games and that phrase goes a long way to prove to us how unreliable the words and the promises of a politician shouldn't be taken seriously,  most especially when they are in their campaign period because most cases have proven that,   what the politicians say during campaigns are far from what they do when they eventually win the elections.

This act is the reason why most people have classified politicians as unrepentant liars who may never say anything reliable and can be trusted, in the ideal sense,  is not supposed to be so,  and if there is a working system,  no one will care about the personality of the political but will be focused on the working and efficacy of the system instead of depending of the so-called politicians.
That's exactly the techniques which the governments employs to chain the masses to a captivity whereas during elections they're humble to the society and after winning elections the society becomes a jungle and the humans becomes animals for their hunting peaks.
Imagine how they could design an economy ecosystem bestowing power of control within themselves so that humans can't even take shape of their own. So it becomes uneasy to migrate from the so political paternity dungeons where they have built us prisons at every corners of the states. So we just lives by conditional threats so we don't attract them (politicians) one day that we're still breathing as all they feels is that we don't exist anymore as much as they don't care about us and no submission of the governments over the masses rights and influences.

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April 23, 2024, 07:07:44 PM
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I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

It's the same here. The real name for it always used to be channel 1, but since it's only government propaganda they call it "government tv" in the free media.
Different governments use the same tactics because they learn from each other. If something works for one country it may work for another.

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But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

No, it's not. In most countries it's about buying votes and you can buy them by promising stuff to your voters, giving them freebies, lying to them, scaring them with war, or pandemic, or lack of money...
There's many ways to get votes. For instance, in Russia they like to simply print additional ballots and cheat the system the good old way.

Politics is a way to achieve victory in a polite manner and not violating state regulations. Currently, politics has been poisoned with bad things, which can also have negative consequences when becoming a leader. there are unjust methods, namely through buying and selling votes and even manipulating data by collaborating with people who work in the political system, currently it is also viral that when an election occurs, the victory is not in the hands of the person who voted, but the victory is with the person who wrote it, namely the person who works in the election system. .

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May 09, 2024, 10:28:45 PM
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It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician.  How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain. 
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?
it is obvious that there is no politician you will see atoms of truth in him all the politicians is made of false information so in which I dislike to participate in politics because they don't have truth in them politician can eliminate you because you have known it secret the same politician will also send you a message or errand after completion of that message the politician with terminate your life because you have known him so politics is a bad game
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May 11, 2024, 07:58:59 AM
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It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician.  How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain. 
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?
it is obvious that there is no politician you will see atoms of truth in him all the politicians is made of false information so in which I dislike to participate in politics because they don't have truth in them politician can eliminate you because you have known it secret the same politician will also send you a message or errand after completion of that message the politician with terminate your life because you have known him so politics is a bad game

Yes trying to align with our politician mostly our nation is to go into falseful way of life where most citizens will roll out there trust in you because you must join them is their way if not you can move far.
Before now politics is not All about lies and false information but today it's because everyone seek for power even when they are not qualified they uses all means to gets to that power, and that has dramatically change politicians to become more falseful than anything ever. This has painted politics a very bad image as everyone sees it as dirty game and deadly because many kill just to make their way anything seem to become obstacles.

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May 12, 2024, 04:41:29 AM
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The politics of the country I live in is dirty, they don't hesitate to attack any man and people for power. If someone prevents him from winning the election, then of course he takes his life, such a record is constantly being done in the election. If you open the pages of history, in every country such politics have come and taken away people's rights for power, these politics have started from western countries and they are mostly limited to dirty politics.

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May 12, 2024, 08:59:40 AM
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The politics of the country I live in is dirty, they don't hesitate to attack any man and people for power. If someone prevents him from winning the election, then of course he takes his life, such a record is constantly being done in the election. If you open the pages of history, in every country such politics have come and taken away people's rights for power, these politics have started from western countries and they are mostly limited to dirty politics.
basically where politics is dirty is the process whereby politics when you looked at the conditions of the country some countries doesn't stand fit to abolish some evil politicians that is there for the society, so I know very well we have not learned and know exactly what you are saying concerning politics and it functions, when you know that you are not a political class please be absent to them because their mind is made of evils and that's why it's called a dirt game
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May 12, 2024, 09:04:49 AM
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The politics of the country I live in is dirty, they don't hesitate to attack any man and people for power. If someone prevents him from winning the election, then of course he takes his life, such a record is constantly being done in the election. If you open the pages of history, in every country such politics have come and taken away people's rights for power, these politics have started from western countries and they are mostly limited to dirty politics.
Politics is a dirty game and we need to understand it so that we don't state saying different things entirely.
I have noticed that in developing and under developed countries, many people use politics as a means to improve in self riches amd pocket government funds that is meant for the masses. Corruption has made politics to be act of wickedness and I don't think that would still in any time soon. People do no longer trust the government or the politicians because they are always there to steal Money.









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May 13, 2024, 04:42:57 AM
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Politicians make various promises to the public to achieve their interests, but after achieving their interests, they forget their promises and lie to the people. An honest politician never forgets his promises and has no need to lie to the people later.

Maybe you live in a South Asian country, where politics means lies, politics means chaos, politics means corruption. I have seen from the reports of some countries in the Asian region, there are almost every country involved in various types of corruption including vote stealing. By doing this they weaken the masses and create their own hegemony. The more ignorant the people of a country, the more able its politicians are to lie and corrupt.
 
I will blame the ignorant people for this state of the country. If people are aware, political parties will never be saved by corruption.

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May 13, 2024, 04:23:10 PM
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It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician.  How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain. 
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

Politics, in my opinion, is not about lying, but we don't know who is real among them, all of them will seek our attention to vote for them when the time comes, and after we vote for them, they turn their backs on us, forgetting  all the promises they made to us during the elections, they can't hear our cries anymore. We believe their goal is to win the election, change themselves, and steal money because they are not going to be there forever.

Politicians in my country have another method, they do not promise to do something for us once they win the election, because if we do not see any improvements after the election, we cannot blame them. After all, they made no promises to us during the campaign. The way politics lie in my country, I dislike everything about them, because no matter who we vote for, nothing will change and we continue to suffer. I don't even know why they're in my country.

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May 17, 2024, 07:04:41 PM
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On paper anyone can become the leader in the democracy but isn't entirely true, one who got majority of support will become one irrespective if tbe majority is just 30% or 20% and it depends on number of parties, candidates, percentage of votes polled in the election. Anyway about the topic, whether they're telling lies or truth can be found only if we can prove it but I doubt it is even possible when the one who you go against is on the power so the cycle keep goes on, and you know people know the strategy to keep the citizens busy in their personal life so they don't think in the big picture.









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May 18, 2024, 11:46:13 AM
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It is looking like telling lies is the prerequisite of becoming a politician. As a matter of fact, there is a way you will tell lies that people will start suspecting you to be a politician.  How we get to this point in human history is what no one can explain. 
I don't know about your country but in my country, politicians buy over media empires to sell lies and propaganda to the public... I know this is not peculiar to my country. This may be the reason there is a growing distrust between the leaders and the followers.

But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

The more you can deceive the people with lies and false arguments, you are the greatest leader of the present time. One of the biggest symptoms in politics is false consolation, taking votes from people with false consolation and stealing votes to become ministers. From history you will notice that almost every country has a crisis in politics, where not even a leader can be found on the path of truth.

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Telling lies are kind of occupation for politician and people know that. But still some people support those politician for they are own benefit and so that day good get facility when their leader won the election. But people really don't believe politician as well as what they promises. And that's why they "buy over media, tv channels empires to sell lies and propaganda among public" cause public don't know about these facts behind the news and they trust news. And this is how politician if there work continued
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May 20, 2024, 01:02:30 AM
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Telling lies are kind of occupation for politician and people know that. But still some people support those politician for they are own benefit and so that day good get facility when their leader won the election. But people really don't believe politician as well as what they promises. And that's why they "buy over media, tv channels empires to sell lies and propaganda among public" cause public don't know about these facts behind the news and they trust news. And this is how politician if there work continued

To be fair, being a liar is not actually 100% part of being within the world of politics, lies are only used when the politician finds himself to be cornered inside his own rethoric and cannot longer use his usual discourse to get himself out a situation which puts him in a position of disadvantsge in the eyes of the public and in the eyes of his political rivals. It is the classic move by bad politicians. They prefer to continue to hold onto power as long as possible, instead of admitting they committed a mistake as human beings they are. Sometimes I even believe they want the rest of the world to forget politicians are human beings like anyone of us so they can screw things up.
In conclusion, the less lies a politician needs to resort to, the better quality that person is to administer resources and solve problems of the people of the republic.

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May 20, 2024, 10:03:07 AM
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The truth is politics shouldn't be like that. There can be differences amongst people with different ideas and that is where people disagree but the truth should always be said.
But in this world, politicians are not looking out for the interest of the people they serve, they're only looking out for their interest which is why they tell lies and push propaganda.

If a politician is looking out for the interest of his people, there will be no need for him to lie, he'll just tell the truth even if many would not agree with him.

Yes naturally is not supposed be persuasion as it's today, but right now mostly the third world countries the politics is of do or die affair that to say if you can't winn tham you join tham by way of taking all means to get your way mostly the lies aspects is hard to be rooted out in our politics and our politician have adopted this as the Best way to get it's citizens.

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May 22, 2024, 11:39:39 PM
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Not only in your country op, Same thing is happening our country too. Actually most of politician are same. You don't need to separate themselves on countries. As if, "if you can't tell lies, when you will never be a good politician". Telling lies, fake promises are very common. Khuda Se politician try to convince people for vote him. And once when he/she get elected, don't care anything except themselves.

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May 29, 2024, 09:14:32 AM
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But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?

In the real sense of it, people who go into politics are suppose to be those who have conscience because they are suppose to go and make judicious use of the people's common wealth for the benefit of the people but the reverse is the case. If someone who is not rich enters into political office, after the tenure then go back and check the financial status of that same person and you will be astonished especially in third world countries. There are suppose to be a very strong institutions melt to punish political thieves.

Politics seem to be a game of deciving peopel or so they have made it seem cahse no singke president or governor has ever lived up to his expectation or at least where i come from, they are all about trlling lies buying people with initial promises and once they get what they want yhey change and show their true colours.

But what else did you expect when the government hides a lot of secret from us and need to lie when we find about the tiniest clues to cover up. It's such a same tho that honesty is void in the governmental system and even a new elected person would begin to lie just soon enough.

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May 29, 2024, 10:12:33 PM
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Most of people are always interested with too good to be true, that's why propaganda is the best to make people believe them. Citizen don't want to hear about fact and think more critic, they only believe what the politicians are saying because they're more popular and have higher position.

Those politicians have a lot followers, I think the followers are get brainwashed and used to think those politicians are their God.

That's the truth. The citizens has also been acting anti to accept the truth and transparencies, the politicians has been surrounded therapists and psychologists who help them to study and figure out what the masses are easily to be accepted.
It's quite obvious that the masses has been fond of accepting lies than the truth that's why the citizens votes in politicians that has more of expected promises than the one who has less promises.
We can all see the pressure Donald Trumps is pulling globally in the upcoming election because he's been flaunting promises that'd benefit bitcoin and the cryptocurrencies adoption on how they'd enjoy the digital development and his promise about setting Ross free after being sentenced to live imprisonment.
Such are what we all needed to hear and we don't mind if they're telling the truth or the possibilities of them fulfilling the promises.
It's just techniques to win the peoples mind with an selfish interests but let's hope on what good comes out of Donald Trumps with his promises. I guess we'll all have him our support with all relevances of his crypto related promises.
That's basically politics for us.

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May 30, 2024, 01:33:15 AM
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But is politics supposed to really be about lies? Why is the polity dominating by propaganda?
It has become a normal habit among politicians. There second name should have been liers. In my country people sees politicians as liers, cheaters, promise and fail, deceptive and untrusted set of people who do anything for power and that is truely what they are. They can do anything for power and when they get there they don't recognise the subjects that brought them to such place. If you ask me why politicians are dominating in propaganda? I will say that without them decieving people with there propaganda, it will not be easy for them to achieve there interior motive. Just like someone who is promoting his market, he will sugercoat his business to be able to sell his market, even when he knows that his product is not worth it or does not meet the standards.

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It has become a normal habit among politicians. There second name should have been liers. In my country people sees politicians as liers, cheaters, promise and fail, deceptive and untrusted set of people who do anything for power and that is truely what they are.
Politicians have such a bad track record that most people don't believe them anymore. People resist being gullible against these flowery words of those politicians. I have met many people saying that they no longer care for politics because it's all useless as politicians only care about themselves.
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They can do anything for power and when they get there they don't recognise the subjects that brought them to such place.
Politicians will say anything to be appointed but do not even believe that they will make their promises 100% true.

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Because if you have enough influence and power, there's really no incentives for you not to lie, I mean most corrupt politicians and evil people wouldn't get really far with what they're doing if they let a simple thing like honesty get in their way right? That's just how politics will be in the near future no matter what you do because the people that elect this lying politicians really don't care and as long as we don't care who we put in the position of power, it will always be like this, if everyone is tired of this kind of system, people will do something about even if it means a forced removal of this kind of politician and even if the livelihood and lives are at stake, people should always crave for a change.



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