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August 30, 2023, 09:33:10 AM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.
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Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
His/her decisions.

I'm not expert in trading, but I tried trading already, and I believe that the reason why I lost most of the time with my trades is my trading decisions which often leads me to losses. A win trade means you had a good decision, and vice versa. How can it be solved or stopped? I don't think there's any way to stop it aside from learning from your past experiences. Experiencing it first-hand would be better because you can adjust, and make better decisions in the future. If you experience winning, you might stick to that strategy, and if you lose, you will make some adjustments, and better decisions.

Overall, it's psychological like you said. The problem is yourself, and the only solution for that is to fix yourself as well.
I have to agree on this. There’s no stopping from your losing experiences in trading, because whether we like it or not, trading has its own inevitable losses as well, even pros and veterans have their fair share of losses too. However, if we are in consistent losses, probably there’s something wrong with the way how we trade. With how we make our trading decisions. If you stick with your trading decisions, then nothing will change, you will still be losing most of the time. I suggest you start assessing yourself as a trader and try to learn new skills and strategies as well in trading. Maybe that will at least help you to change your trading decisions and your trading mindset as well.

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August 30, 2023, 09:53:37 AM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such an experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
Probably the reasons are - TA, ineffective strategies, too emotional, and greediness.
But I will tell you OP that this is really how trading looks. You can't make all day in profit nor think that you can earn a profit consistently but sadly, losing is still going to happen. And whether we like it or not, even if you are in trading for many years, nobody is exempted. And the best thing to do is work on your strategies and enhance our knowledge in order to raise our level of market understanding which could really have a huge impact in making TA.

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September 08, 2023, 04:26:22 PM
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Just because they made a profit and made a loss doesn't mean it was equal numbers neither. I mean you could make 5k profit and 3k loss, which means you are in 2k profit and that's the important part, you should be making as much profit as you possibly could from it.

You can still continue to make a loss time to time, like you can go one profit and one loss back to back, but as long as you profit more than you lose then it's fine and nothing is wrong with that. I get that it will not be simple, but it will at least exist to a point and you should be hoping that it will work for you in the end. I understand that some people worry about it, because they do not like to check the results of it, but it will happen without a doubt.

When profit is greater than loss then in such situations continue your business and in a same time try to learn about the reason due to which you loss money but when the situations goes opposite like your percentage of loss increases than wining percentage then it is alarming for you.

I think that if you made 2k profit in regular win and loss condition then people will not see this sum but they will focus more on their loss as loss is very hard to bear. Trading work only when you utilize all the possible gained knowledge and success does not occur quickly and suddenly but time is necessary to experience other important factors which you don't know before.

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September 17, 2023, 02:52:40 AM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.

It all boils down to the trader and his strategy, as a trade I don't think you have to always be on the same path of trading or using same style. Like you having a plan, different method of carrying out your day to day trading activities, if you find out that the loss and profit has a reoccurrence (in a way that's not favourable) then give it a pause and ask yourself what are you not doing well, if possible give it a break but not for too long just to figure out the problem.
I believe there's no trader that's going up and down in every trading he makes, there must be a change so if that happens is left for the trader to make amends and the problem might good away if it's handled properly.

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September 17, 2023, 04:56:10 AM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.

It all boils down to the trader and his strategy, as a trade I don't think you have to always be on the same path of trading or using same style. Like you having a plan, different method of carrying out your day to day trading activities, if you find out that the loss and profit has a reoccurrence (in a way that's not favourable) then give it a pause and ask yourself what are you not doing well, if possible give it a break but not for too long just to figure out the problem.
I believe there's no trader that's going up and down in every trading he makes, there must be a change so if that happens is left for the trader to make amends and the problem might good away if it's handled properly.
Many things happen that are beyond our expectations in the course of trading, therefore we must be prepared for these things.
What you say is very true and indeed we also have to be able to control our emotions in trading to avoid bad things.
Regarding strategy, before trading we must have a strategy that will be implemented to take profits or other plans, but if something outside our control happens then we must be ready for that and also be prepared to carry out other strategies.



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October 03, 2023, 10:52:41 PM
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i think he needs to check his strategy and journal his trades and check the parameters that played out when he won trades and also when he lost the trade and he should try to focus on the scenario plays that led to the wins and stick to it. you wont win all the time but it should be on a high  side than the losing.

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October 04, 2023, 11:32:06 AM
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i think he needs to check his strategy and journal his trades and check the parameters that played out when he won trades and also when he lost the trade and he should try to focus on the scenario plays that led to the wins and stick to it. you wont win all the time but it should be on a high  side than the losing.
We have no reason to worry because some time we will gain while trading and some time we will lose. But if we want to trade we must have a good idea about trading then we can make profit from trading. Some times we make big mistakes due to our small mistakes.  We have to wear losses. So if we can trade with a good idea about trading, then maybe our losses can be a little bit smaller. We have to follow some rules for trading and then there may be danger for us.


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October 04, 2023, 12:59:43 PM
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i think he needs to check his strategy and journal his trades and check the parameters that played out when he won trades and also when he lost the trade and he should try to focus on the scenario plays that led to the wins and stick to it. you wont win all the time but it should be on a high  side than the losing.
Well, he has to observe the trading experience he has done. Observation is needed so that he can be more thorough in understanding why he loses and why he wins in trading. And after that, the material collected from observation activities is then reassessed through evaluation practices and then draws conclusions and makes more mature trading plans. And this process sometimes doesn't work immediately. But there should always be lessons to be learned. So we will become more reliable traders.

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October 04, 2023, 01:38:44 PM
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i think he needs to check his strategy and journal his trades and check the parameters that played out when he won trades and also when he lost the trade and he should try to focus on the scenario plays that led to the wins and stick to it. you wont win all the time but it should be on a high  side than the losing.

It's a good practice to have a journal for your trade where you will note down every trade, its outcome, relevant comments for future references. I saw many professional traders use this kind of method to improve their trading skills and use their experience to be on the winning side of the market. However this helps a trader identify the mole in his strategy and change based on his goal.

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October 04, 2023, 05:58:14 PM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.

Don't even think it would be for a month,  the win and lose situation I can say,  it would be for just some days but if I think about it for a month,  not sure at all. I was also being involved in this situation but not for that much time. A month is a long time even I had been in this situation for a week or just 6 days. Some people even didn't like that it repeatedly happens,  also I was doing it for 6 days,  I was not feeling happy in that situation and it was the matter of loss,  I was being in a little loss there after 6 days. So,  you are saying you did it for a month or so. How would you explain that are you were in loss? Or you were in win at last?

We can't stop this experience by our own will,  as trading is volatile,  so we could only applying trading strategies there. But can't think of to stop it. From time to time we get experience and should understand things in trading. Just carry on!

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October 04, 2023, 07:13:07 PM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.
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Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
His/her decisions.

I'm not expert in trading, but I tried trading already, and I believe that the reason why I lost most of the time with my trades is my trading decisions which often leads me to losses. A win trade means you had a good decision, and vice versa. How can it be solved or stopped? I don't think there's any way to stop it aside from learning from your past experiences. Experiencing it first-hand would be better because you can adjust, and make better decisions in the future. If you experience winning, you might stick to that strategy, and if you lose, you will make some adjustments, and better decisions.

Overall, it's psychological like you said. The problem is yourself, and the only solution for that is to fix yourself as well.
I have to agree on this. There’s no stopping from your losing experiences in trading, because whether we like it or not, trading has its own inevitable losses as well, even pros and veterans have their fair share of losses too. However, if we are in consistent losses, probably there’s something wrong with the way how we trade. With how we make our trading decisions. If you stick with your trading decisions, then nothing will change, you will still be losing most of the time. I suggest you start assessing yourself as a trader and try to learn new skills and strategies as well in trading. Maybe that will at least help you to change your trading decisions and your trading mindset as well.
Its simply inevitable!

There's no way that someone cant really be able to experience losing because this is something that you would really be able to experience along the way even if you are already that experienced or professional on this field on which you could really be definitely be experiencing losing but the most important thing that despite of those losses is that you could really be still ending up on being profitable because
this is one of the most important thing that you would be needing to consider because if you do find yourself that not really much making some winning trades and losses is more than
with your winning then you would be finding definitely yourself in negative.

This is why its really that important that you should really know on how to adopt and be versatle and making learnings out of those mistakes that you had experienced.
We know that mistakes are stepping stones on making yourself better. Its impossible that you cant really be able to point out those potential problems that did really
affect your trading.

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October 04, 2023, 07:26:13 PM
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The biggest problem I feel is that when newbies come into the trading market, they come into the market with zero knowledge because they don't know what they are going to gain or lose. In this case, since most people are new, they start trading on seeing others and at some point lose their original money and go back to the previous situation. This problem is a long-term problem and its solution is also a long-term solution. If one wants to operate a trading for a limited time then my opinion is that he should not start In that because if he does not know about the background then he will never succeed in that.

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