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August 18, 2023, 05:38:11 AM
Merited by hugeblack (4), BoXXoB (3), yahoo62278 (1), nutildah (1), DdmrDdmr (1), Awaklara (1)
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Hi.

See this thread:
   
Crypto/NFT open source roulette

You can see my comment on it about too many alts praising the system which has made me leave a neutral tag on the OP for the time being. But I see that all the alts who have commented follow the same pattern, which is to have been created between 2017 and 2018, not having written a single fucking post until today, and appearing in that thread within minutes of each other to write posts promoting the service that the OP advertises, a roulette.

I would like to read opinions from the community before, if appropriate, proceeding to leave more tags.

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August 18, 2023, 06:05:13 AM
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very strange behavior and also ridiculous. the Op account in the thread is also not much different from the accounts that have good comments regarding the Roulette. this looks like the Op's attempt to keep his thread alive with positive comments from his alt.

it seems whenever someone comments on the thread, it will show alt Op to comment each other and reveal themselves. or maybe they're running a campaign on their social media groups to do just that.
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August 18, 2023, 07:02:28 AM
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I would like to read opinions from the community before, if appropriate, proceeding to leave more tags.
Looks to me like a classic thread bumping case, and we've seen quite a lot of of those even on altcoin board where leaving posts can't get you on the top like it's the case here.

Based on their M.O. (use of old newbie accounts) my guess is that this is the work of infamous Vitor Services that is usually responsible for this type of "marketing".

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August 18, 2023, 07:11:50 AM
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If someone can still fallen to this type of scam, I don't have any words to say.

The domain is already suspicious, napcis.com but when you visit the site, it's bitcase.

There's no information about the site and you can't read anything except they will force you to connect your wallet.

Sadly they accept Bitcoin, if not their thread will be moved to altcoins section where it's a place for scam sites that promise ridiculous profit.
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August 18, 2023, 08:08:36 AM
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That thread should be reported to the moderators for spamming. I notice that Kn0wn is treading the same path as the WreckLeague account, which has already been banned, and is likely part of a big group of throwaway alt accounts.

WreckLeague used to flood the forum with posts having the exact same content while pushing this web address:
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https://bitcase.optima.org
Now, that domain is on my antivirus' blacklist, so it's likely they switched to a new domain because of this.

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August 18, 2023, 08:22:09 AM
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I wonder how he managed to get so many accounts that were created several years ago, these accounts did not strive to create more detailed replies or even leave good time differences between them and anyone can notice that their purpose is to show that the project is working well.
I think the reason for making all these posts in a short time is to prevent others to create negative replies.
Creating a flag is the best, forum members can easily know that all these replies are fake but guests may not be able to.

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August 18, 2023, 09:03:29 AM
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I wonder how he managed to get so many accounts that were created several years ago, .

Unfortunately for us, it's quite simple. Old accounts with a zero level are sold on the Internet very cheaply, and it does not cost a lot of money and labor for scammers to buy several batches of such accounts. I looked at the history of some accounts; some accounts belong to the Russian locale, and there are also old accounts of miners as well as accounts participating in bumping services.
It would be right for moderators to destroy such accounts after the first post after hibernation. Although, as one old, respected user says, this is a fight with windmills.

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August 18, 2023, 09:37:11 AM
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All those accounts are used for the same purpose and they already know that OP would post such thread that was why they started bumping the thread to lure people into their trap. Those accounts are very old and shouldn't be abused if it is bought. That is why moderators need to see what to do on this issue. Anyway it is a cheap scam and anyone that falls for it must be a greedy person who wants to reap from where he didn't sow from. It might also be that the accounts are controlled by one person who knows such a funny trick.

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August 18, 2023, 09:44:02 AM
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I would like to read opinions from the community before, if appropriate, proceeding to leave more tags.

It is quite obvious that it is an organized bump with fake comments. It is very likely that the same person is behind all the accounts, but it does not necessarily have to be that way.
If you really want to clean it up, I suggest you report such posts to the moderator. After some time, they themselves will give up this strategy.
Also, tagging such accounts is not wrong, so I encourage you to do it. Just make sure you make valid references (probably the best in this thread) in case the OP decides to delete his topic.

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August 18, 2023, 11:33:02 AM
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I would like to read opinions from the community before, if appropriate, proceeding to leave more tags.

I think I have read about a similar case where an user got so many replies on his thread from accounts that were created the day they made all their comments and after that they all left the forum without logging into their account again and when the user was called out he claimed that they (the accounts) were owned by some of those that patronized him and after their deal he made them create an account here in Bitcointalk to give him a review.

But I’m this case I don’t think that’s what is happening here, it is obvious that those accounts are being controlled by the same user and since the main aim of this act of socket-puppet is to deceive people into believing that he has actually done anything with those accounts and therefore going into trade with him I think that calls for a neutral tag warning others against the risk of dealing with him.

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August 18, 2023, 01:39:06 PM
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That thread should be reported to the moderators for spamming.

I've just reported it as you said. Now it's up to the moderators to decide.

If you really want to clean it up, I suggest you report such posts to the moderator. After some time, they themselves will give up this strategy.
Also, tagging such accounts is not wrong, so I encourage you to do it. Just make sure you make valid references (probably the best in this thread) in case the OP decides to delete his topic.

I already tagged OP (neutral) but I am not so sure about the other alt or related accounts. I think for this alone is not worth it. As they have had no activity since their inception, I think their intentions will be seen at the next move they make.
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I would say that being as all these accounts are sockpuppets and being used to try and facilitate a scam, a tag is warranted on all of them. It's really a pathetic attempt to try and scam some users out of their crypto.

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Here are hyperlinks to all the accounts involved for those who want to tag them. At a minimum a neutral tag is warranted(RED IMO). Curious what others think.

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August 18, 2023, 03:18:53 PM
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or maybe they're running a campaign on their social media groups to do just that.
the possibility is quite implausible. it's because when you look at the accounts that comment on the thread have the same habit.
almost all accounts that have been dormant for a long time then woke up and posted their first post on to support the site. if the accounts that comment there are random accounts like when you see newbie accounts registering bounty campaigns. the possibility that you mean can still be considered.

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Curious what others think.

I'd definitely say red is warranted.

People using alt accounts is imo one of the most annoying things on the forum. I'm worried about cases where it's not so clear as here.

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Here are hyperlinks to all the accounts involved for those who want to tag them. At a minimum a neutral tag is warranted(RED IMO). Curious what others think.
Thank you for posting this and making it easy. I think red is definitely a good way to help others and non-members of the community when visiting this page to have warnings posted right in front of their faces. It's the easiest way to make sure that there are less people that gets scammed.

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August 18, 2023, 08:26:29 PM
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Here are hyperlinks to all the accounts involved for those who want to tag them. At a minimum a neutral tag is warranted(RED IMO). Curious what others think.
I've taken part to do it earlier instead of leaving icopress alone there - I think a neutral tag is worth it at this point for all those accounts.

yahoo62278 - thanks for providing hyperlink to all accounts - it took me only 4 seconds to send each tag to each account mentioned. Waiting for another same step from a different user - or two is enough?

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Here are hyperlinks to all the accounts involved for those who want to tag them. At a minimum a neutral tag is warranted(RED IMO). Curious what others think.
I've taken part to do it earlier instead of leaving icopress alone there - I think a neutral tag is worth it at this point for all those accounts.

yahoo62278 - thanks for providing hyperlink to all accounts - it took me only 4 seconds to send each tag to each account mentioned. Waiting for another same step from a different user - or two is enough?
I would say 2 is plenty. Just enough to get people to look at the trust hopefully and see the accounts have been involved in some shady activity. I've only seen the community go crazy and tag big scammers like masterP or someone that stole alot of bitcoin.

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I think a neutral tag is worth it at this point for all those accounts.
Imho, neutral in this case is just a waste of time as it should be straight red because its pretty obvious what's going on here. One of the problems is that even when they get tagged, they just ditch those accounts and just reactivate the new ones. Rinse and repeat.

Worst part of all this is that looks like they have an indefinite amount of old newbie accounts that they just reactivate when/if needed. It makes me think that they are constantly making new account just for this purpose and thehn they just leave them alone until needed.

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Believe me or not all these account that are testifying there are all paid post account to convinced the real people over here, have you seen any reputable member testifying in that thread or haven to show any reality to what amount they won?
Well this is just the pure proof of scammers trying to lure real people into wanting to trying their luck to win cryptos and bitcoin at the end they would made away their real money.
Don't you think all the newbies that are testifying in that thread needs to be tag?

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This is an old trick to scam anyone on social media platforms. Unfortunately such trick won't work on our forum due to active members. I have seen such kind of shillings on Twitter, Facebook & most commonly on Telegram channels. What looks interesting here is that those newbie accounts were created a long back. I guess they were created by bots and were made recently active. Looks like we might encounter more of such techniques to scam members in the future.

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