Strange behaviour of too many alts at once.

[yahoo62278]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5463808.msg62719292#msg62719292 same thread started by a different user this time. I was going to leave it alone, but now all have a red tag as it looks even more scammy when a 2nd account announced the same shit and same people posting fake vouches.

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[holydarkness]

I went through their "parent company", BitCase, who held this free raffle to celebrate their 15 million cases [whatever that is]. The link to bitcase[dot]org can initially be accessed by clicking the logo on their header, but it's no longer clickable. Anyway, the parent company itself shows so many red flags, and I think it's enough to tell us the truth about this "raffle" and warrant a tag. I'm leaving one as well.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I noticed that the first thread I reported as spam, instead of being deleted, has been moved to the alts section. I respect the moderators' decision but I don't agree with it. I guess it's because the forum doesn't moderate scams, but the comments from the alts are spammy as hell. Take for example this one in the second thread:

I felt unwell all day, had a headache and a fever. Now I saw this roulette, read the reviews, at first I did not believe it. I went to the site, got a free spin. OH YES THIS IS A VICTORY! NOW I FEEL WELL! THANK YOU FOR THAT!

It's just rubbish.

[Rikafip]

I noticed that the first thread I reported as spam, instead of being deleted, has been moved to the alts section

On which grounds you reported the thread? As you know, scam is not moderated and its very hard to prove that project actually paid someone to shill in their topic so its no surprise that thread wasn't deleted.

but the comments from the alts are spammy as hell. Take for example this one in the second thread

My suggestion is to report those spammy posts instead reporting thread where spamfest is happening. 

[Cuenta Alternativa]

On which grounds you reported the thread?

Well. Actually, I reported it as spam and I see that the report has been marked as good but they have ignored me, they have moved it to Marketplace (altcoins).

My suggestion is to report those spammy posts instead reporting thread where spamfest is happening. 

I think so, moderators will more likely delete rubbish posts like that one.

[yahoo62278]

I noticed that the first thread I reported as spam, instead of being deleted, has been moved to the alts section. I respect the moderators' decision but I don't agree with it. I guess it's because the forum doesn't moderate scams, but the comments from the alts are spammy as hell. Take for example this one in the second thread:

I felt unwell all day, had a headache and a fever. Now I saw this roulette, read the reviews, at first I did not believe it. I went to the site, got a free spin. OH YES THIS IS A VICTORY! NOW I FEEL WELL! THANK YOU FOR THAT!

It's just rubbish.

The 2nd thread is still sitting in the gambling section, so looks like noone has reported that 1. Maybe use different reasoning and see if moderators move it or trash it.

[worldofcoins]

Looks to me like a classic thread bumping case, and we've seen quite a lot of of those even on altcoin board where leaving posts can't get you on the top like it's the case here.

I think it's a thread where alts shill their own service using multiple accounts (promoting their roulette, NFT website in this case)
But they aren't aware that it's clearly visible that they are all alts, someone pretty bad at knowing how the trust system works.

Oh, this is a private roulette, I knew about it for a long time, but no one published it in the public domain.
It is real to win here, and the winnings are very large.
Use it to your health while there are free free spins.

I don't know what this guy (alt) means by the term "Use it to your health while there are free spins"  

It would be right for moderators to destroy such accounts after the first post after hibernation. Although, as one old, respected user says, this is a fight with windmills.

Can moderators do this?

[holydarkness]

The 2nd thread is still sitting in the gambling section, so looks like noone has reported that 1. Maybe use different reasoning and see if moderators move it or trash it.

Reported them under fake roulette, fake parent company, and a possible attempt to phish gullible users. Let's see if it got handled and moved to trash.

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Can moderators do this?

Nuke an account? Yes. With sufficient reason, moderators has the power to send an account into oblivion.

[Coin_trader]

The 2nd thread is still sitting in the gambling section, so looks like noone has reported that 1. Maybe use different reasoning and see if moderators move it or trash it.

Reported them under fake roulette, fake parent company, and a possible attempt to phish gullible users. Let's see if it got handled and moved to trash.

Moving that thread to the altcoin is the best that we can get since no one here can prove that website is scam by trying by themselves the casino. I report many of this scam attempt but none of them move to trash can especially if the thread is properly constructed as announcement thread. The only result I can get aside from moving the thread on altcoin board is my report record added with a bad report count.

I think moving the thread on Altcoin board can be considered as trash too since only few or close to no user interact to that board due to flooded ANN thread from shitcoins.

[holydarkness]

Reported them under fake roulette, fake parent company, and a possible attempt to phish gullible users. Let's see if it got handled and moved to trash.

Moving that thread to the altcoin is the best that we can get since no one here can prove that website is scam by trying by themselves the casino. I report many of this scam attempt but none of them move to trash can especially if the thread is properly constructed as announcement thread. The only result I can get aside from moving the thread on altcoin board is my report record added with a bad report count.

I think moving the thread on Altcoin board can be considered as trash too since only few or close to no user interact to that board due to flooded ANN thread from shitcoins.

Hmm... I think we actually have some basis to think that the roulette itself is scam, if we may connect it with the evidences found on my investigation of their "parent company", BitCase. What we're yet to figure is how, will they ask for private key? Use a drainer malware? Or will they ask for certain deposit to unlock withdrawal.

If I may quote myself about the quick investigaton of BitCase [there are still lots of materials about BitCase that can be pointed out from their website, but I think these points are enough to cover the nature of the website] as well as to safe-keep the research result in case the first thread moved to trash,

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Challenge accepted. How about these for a reason for doubt? This is what your website said [archived]



Copyright 2019-2023, Bitcase Group, Ltd., Cyprus, where the event itself is to commemorate 15 million cases.

1. Your page is copyrighted from 2019, while it's just six months old. BitCase, the "parent company" of yours, who held the event for 15 million cases, are created even more recent



2. Bitcase Group, Ltd. is the name of the registered company. Depends on which website people accessed, it's either registered in Cyprus [for those who access it from markeeter[dot]com] or in UK if seen from bitcase[dot]org [archived]. They're both came negative, though.





3. The header of markeeter is clickable and linking to bitcase [as it should be, given it's the subsidiary of bitcase group]. [Edit: proof-reading it prior to hitting the post button and I found that it's no longer redirecting me to bitcase page? I can swear to any holy being that I was redirected from clicking the header, though] On bitcase, we'll be able to see testimonials from Portia Villa who apparently also has a twin named Lexie Cuevas who happen to write the review and uhh...



Catrine Galvan and Kellis Humphries?




Polly Rush?


Thought?

[ScamViruS]

I think moving the thread on Altcoin board can be considered as trash too since only few or close to no user interact to that board due to flooded ANN thread from shitcoins.

They have created a new thread on the Gambling board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5463808.0 and they are posting in that thread using multiple newbie accounts to make the thread look active. We need to report in each of their threads if the mod takes any action which would be a good move. They are here for the purpose of scam, which is hinting through their every activity. So to warn gamblers, all possible action should be taken against these site promoters.

[khaled0111]

Everything about the website screams "scam".
Other than the red flags presented by holy darkness, I want to add few more in case someone still believe it may be legit:

- It's supposed to be a web3 websites and users connect to it through walletconnect. But they claim they offer btc prizes! Afaik, the Bitcoin blockchain is not supported by walletconnect. So how can the winners withdraw their btc?

- One of the fake accounts posted an image of what supposed to be him receiving 2 btc on his wallet. The amount he received in btc is (2 btc) and its equivalent in USD is ($58222.2), the transaction fee in btc is (576 sats) and its equivalent in USD is ($0.21). The math doesn't add up!

Unfortunately, all mods can do is to move the thread to the altcoins section then lock it if the number of spam posts becomes more than they can handle. They can also ban the fake accounts if they have many good reports against them.

[yahoo62278]

Everything about the website screams "scam".
Other than the red flags presented by holy darkness, I want to add few more in case someone still believe it may be legit:

- It's supposed to be a web3 websites and users connect to it through walletconnect. But they claim they offer btc prizes! Afaik, the Bitcoin blockchain is not supported by walletconnect. So how can the winners withdraw their btc?

- One of the fake accounts posted an image of what supposed to be him receiving 2 btc on his wallet. The amount he received in btc is (2 btc) and its equivalent in USD is ($58222.2), the transaction fee in btc is (576 sats) and its equivalent in USD is ($0.21). The math doesn't add up!

Unfortunately, all mods can do is to move the thread to the altcoins section then lock it if the number of spam posts becomes more than they can handle. They can also ban the fake accounts if they have many good reports against them.

This could be a phishing scam of sorts as well. Users connects their wallets and the site empties them. Heard about that happening a couple times in the last few months.

[Stalker22]

This could be a phishing scam of sorts as well. Users connects their wallets and the site empties them. Heard about that happening a couple times in the last few months.

No doubt about it, this is a scam!

I did some digging on the forum about this "BitCase roulette", and I came across a bunch of other posts echoing the same content (most of which have already been taken down by the moderators). They keep promoting a fresh domain in nearly every new post, all featuring the same cloned version of the site. Here is a list of some of the domains:

Code:

https://bitcase.optima.org/
https://napcis.com/
https://carirupiah.com/
https://markeeter.com/

Some of these domains are already on the blacklist and are being blocked by antiviruses. So, they are basically playing whack-a-mole with new domains to keep the scam going.

[holydarkness]

This could be a phishing scam of sorts as well. Users connects their wallets and the site empties them. Heard about that happening a couple times in the last few months.

If it is, it called a drainware or a drainer, I caught one being offered back then.

[Stalker22]

Our friend OldCat is back in action. Now, he has started spamming various local boards with something he calls AMLBot, along with a website that asks you to connect your wallet under the guise of "assessing the purity of a cryptocurrency."


https://ninjastic.space/search?author=OldCat&title=AMLBot

Moderators, is it time to bring out the ban hammer, perhaps?