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August 25, 2023, 01:44:09 AM
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Anybody know of any crypto casinos that offer cockfighting? preferably vietnamese thai cambodian or filipino

As of now I don't know yet if there's a casino who offered crypto in cockfighting actually in my own perspective if there's a casino who invented to put crypto in cockfighting for sure many gamblers will try and bet cause we all know that in some country like in the Philippines they love to get cockfighting and once they will know about crypto and there's a casino who offered crypto in cockfighting then out of curiosity they will try.
I have not yet also encountered offering crypto in cockfighting. But yes, here in our country, it started from traditional cockfighting, also called "sabong' and now it is also available online, making it more accessible and convenient for bettors. It is legal here in our country but limited to licensed cockpit venues throughout different cities.

I have no experience, but my uncles are fond of betting on it. Aside from traditional casinos, sabong also causes addiction, which is the reason why my uncle lost all his money and assets due to addiction and continuously believing that he could still recover from his losses. Like other forms of gambling, it can cause financial difficulties, relationship issues, and addiction. Always remember to gamble responsibly to prevent any negative impact of addictions.

Yes you are right that mate and we can not deny that fact that cockfighting also known as Sabong in our country is one of the gambling habits or let say traditions and also if there's a festival in town then there's a cockfighting even though it's illegal once They won't have permit then they will continue gamble and bet. But for me since gamblers will know already that once they don't have permit it's illegal then why not they play in to the arena so that there's small chances of being afraid.

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August 25, 2023, 06:28:05 AM
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Actually, people who has ended up dead by his hand and the hand of his soldiers are those who betrayed him or try to steal from him.
There are some videos on the internet of how people end up after trying to outsmart him.
Makes sense. Loyalty is everything in such criminal organizations. He made examples out of those traitors to show off his power.

I highly doubt that he meets with other rival criminal leaders to bet on cockfighting. Those situations could degenerate into a gunfight.
Lol. I was joking about that. Imagine such high level crime lords fighting each other through cockfights. That would be weird and absurd. Realistically, they bet on horse-racing etc to compete against each other.

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August 25, 2023, 08:56:19 AM
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In our country, they were legal like 2-3 years ago but then the government finally decided to stop and make them illegal because of the series of kidnappings due to this type of game. Despite that, there have been a lot of new websites/apps that have come out but they don't have a license to operate so that means they're illegally operating and they will be held behind bars if they get caught. That's possible that in some other countries, they could also face jail time if one has but it differs from each country. But I am just telling that maybe you should change your game if you wanna gamble.
This also happened in the country where I live, because initially cockfighting was claimed as a cultural heritage that had been preserved for a long time, but because money was used for each cockfight and cockfighting was made a means of gambling, the government revoked the legal permit about cockfighting and consider it a form of gambling activity, plus there are groups of community organizations that consider cockfighting to be an activity that tortures animals so they reject the legal permit.
After all, there are only a few gamblers who really like betting on cockfighting, considering that cockfighting is a type of bet that is difficult to predict which one will win.

The thing with cockfighting is that it is very hard to monitor by the government. Yeah, in the beginning specially in the pandemic they allow it because it is money generating for them.

But as we have go back to normal now, they have to crack it down as there are reports that people missing or being killed because of money and there are a lot of crooked cops and even congressman and politicians that are involved.

As for beginning, it's almost 50/50 bet. So it's either you got lucky and bet on the winner or not.
But if it's just a cockfighting event which tends to be small or there are only a few groups, it's still mostly done in some remote rural villages and there is also money at stake for every cock that is fought.
Even so, we can still bet on fiat casinos if we want to bet on cockfights in every event carried out by several countries such as Thailand, Vietnam and the Philippines.

It is true that many criminal cases occur only because of disputes over betting money and in the past the security forces or the police were involved in betting on fights which were still held freely.
Everything is because of money and in every cockfighting bet there is a percentage share for the police who back up the cockfighting event.

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August 25, 2023, 12:30:45 PM
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In our country, they were legal like 2-3 years ago but then the government finally decided to stop and make them illegal because of the series of kidnappings due to this type of game. Despite that, there have been a lot of new websites/apps that have come out but they don't have a license to operate so that means they're illegally operating and they will be held behind bars if they get caught. That's possible that in some other countries, they could also face jail time if one has but it differs from each country. But I am just telling that maybe you should change your game if you wanna gamble.
This also happened in the country where I live, because initially cockfighting was claimed as a cultural heritage that had been preserved for a long time, but because money was used for each cockfight and cockfighting was made a means of gambling, the government revoked the legal permit about cockfighting and consider it a form of gambling activity, plus there are groups of community organizations that consider cockfighting to be an activity that tortures animals so they reject the legal permit.
After all, there are only a few gamblers who really like betting on cockfighting, considering that cockfighting is a type of bet that is difficult to predict which one will win.

The thing with cockfighting is that it is very hard to monitor by the government. Yeah, in the beginning specially in the pandemic they allow it because it is money generating for them.

But as we have go back to normal now, they have to crack it down as there are reports that people missing or being killed because of money and there are a lot of crooked cops and even congressman and politicians that are involved.

As for beginning, it's almost 50/50 bet. So it's either you got lucky and bet on the winner or not.
But if it's just a cockfighting event which tends to be small or there are only a few groups, it's still mostly done in some remote rural villages and there is also money at stake for every cock that is fought.
Even so, we can still bet on fiat casinos if we want to bet on cockfights in every event carried out by several countries such as Thailand, Vietnam and the Philippines.

It is true that many criminal cases occur only because of disputes over betting money and in the past the security forces or the police were involved in betting on fights which were still held freely.
Everything is because of money and in every cockfighting bet there is a percentage share for the police who back up the cockfighting event.

Not only happening on rural area but also in urban area since there are big cockpits getting a license to operate such dens. They create big events on that places and many people goes there to bet then have fun with this type of betting. This is big industry on Philippines and it generate if not millions a billion peso to the owner and also to the government officials getting taxes from this venues. If talking about police protecting some big people maybe there is but we don't have any concrete proof that can point out there participation.

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August 25, 2023, 01:27:04 PM
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I think it's a game that's played publicly between two groups of people who send their cocks in the fight (after drugging that cock a sip of alcoholic beverage) to give a hard and long fight, but I don't know if there's a casino that offers it. These games are not displayed in TV as well because people think that such games are insane, even they won't display bull fight, bull races and lots of other things that are available in this world but are tagged as insane, which is why due to no high recognition of the game, casinos also don't prefer listing such fights.
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August 25, 2023, 01:31:54 PM
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In our country, they were legal like 2-3 years ago but then the government finally decided to stop and make them illegal because of the series of kidnappings due to this type of game. Despite that, there have been a lot of new websites/apps that have come out but they don't have a license to operate so that means they're illegally operating and they will be held behind bars if they get caught. That's possible that in some other countries, they could also face jail time if one has but it differs from each country. But I am just telling that maybe you should change your game if you wanna gamble.
This also happened in the country where I live, because initially cockfighting was claimed as a cultural heritage that had been preserved for a long time, but because money was used for each cockfight and cockfighting was made a means of gambling, the government revoked the legal permit about cockfighting and consider it a form of gambling activity, plus there are groups of community organizations that consider cockfighting to be an activity that tortures animals so they reject the legal permit.
After all, there are only a few gamblers who really like betting on cockfighting, considering that cockfighting is a type of bet that is difficult to predict which one will win.

The thing with cockfighting is that it is very hard to monitor by the government. Yeah, in the beginning specially in the pandemic they allow it because it is money generating for them.

But as we have go back to normal now, they have to crack it down as there are reports that people missing or being killed because of money and there are a lot of crooked cops and even congressman and politicians that are involved.

As for beginning, it's almost 50/50 bet. So it's either you got lucky and bet on the winner or not.
But if it's just a cockfighting event which tends to be small or there are only a few groups, it's still mostly done in some remote rural villages and there is also money at stake for every cock that is fought.
Even so, we can still bet on fiat casinos if we want to bet on cockfights in every event carried out by several countries such as Thailand, Vietnam and the Philippines.

It is true that many criminal cases occur only because of disputes over betting money and in the past the security forces or the police were involved in betting on fights which were still held freely.
Everything is because of money and in every cockfighting bet there is a percentage share for the police who back up the cockfighting event.

What I'm saying is that the games are approved by the government, for example the Philippines which is mentioned by the OP.

You can read it here:

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Six people have been charged over the kidnapping of a group of people linked to the world of cockfighting in the Philippines.

The group of six is thought to have been abducted on their way to a fight in the capital Manila in January.

It's part of a wave of mysterious disappearances to hit the industry, which is a popular betting sport.

Taxes from livestreamed cockfights helped the government replenish its finances after the Covid pandemic.

But former President Rodrigo Duterte eventually banned online fights, while allowing traditional cockfighting to resume.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-64074474

And most likely this is what the OP is asking, not just street cockfighting, it's a fight that is beam online wherein you can bet on it.

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August 25, 2023, 02:38:25 PM
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It looks like a bizarre sports adventure against the animals. Animals are meant to be protected and to have them go against each other is not what the international community would like to do or be seeing, I racing is better than fighting and this is why you may not find a casino easily on that. However, on the local stage, people use to have such games where they set up two hen to fight each other and they will be by the side watching and betting. It is an old local gambling though.

I'm not also in favor of cockfighting because it involves animals being used to fight against each other for humans satisfaction. These creatures have their right to live too the same way we have ours and i just can't stand to see them hurting their very own specie just so the gamblers can have some fun and profit.

Cockfighting remains legal in the Philippines but as far as I know, currently it is prohibited to make online bets due to restrictions made by the previous president. Hence, it will be illegal if you will persist to try e-sabong or other types of online betting regarding cockfighting. If you don't want to be punished, better follow the law and do not make stupid decisions that could cost you your life. Since there are already many pending cases related to lost people that has been never even found up until this date related to online cockfighting betting activities.
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August 25, 2023, 02:53:50 PM
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It looks like a bizarre sports adventure against the animals. Animals are meant to be protected and to have them go against each other is not what the international community would like to do or be seeing, I racing is better than fighting and this is why you may not find a casino easily on that. However, on the local stage, people use to have such games where they set up two hen to fight each other and they will be by the side watching and betting. It is an old local gambling though.

I'm not also in favor of cockfighting because it involves animals being used to fight against each other for humans satisfaction. These creatures have their right to live too the same way we have ours and i just can't stand to see them hurting their very own specie just so the gamblers can have some fun and profit.

Cockfighting remains legal in the Philippines but as far as I know, currently it is prohibited to make online bets due to restrictions made by the previous president. Hence, it will be illegal if you will persist to try e-sabong or other types of online betting regarding cockfighting. If you don't want to be punished, better follow the law and do not make stupid decisions that could cost you your life. Since there are already many pending cases related to lost people that has been never even found up until this date related to online cockfighting betting activities.

Playing the esabong online will still be safer if they are just accepting BTC though. Particularly to those who are operating illegally which obviously risky for both operator and the users. However, when it comes to gambling with their favorite traditional games, it's gonna be unstoppable.

Reading about it seems it's a long problem in the country where even the new generation is still hooked to such animal fights. They couldn't just stop the tradition because even politicians own the cockfighting dome.


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August 25, 2023, 02:58:50 PM
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It looks like a bizarre sports adventure against the animals. Animals are meant to be protected and to have them go against each other is not what the international community would like to do or be seeing, I racing is better than fighting and this is why you may not find a casino easily on that. However, on the local stage, people use to have such games where they set up two hen to fight each other and they will be by the side watching and betting. It is an old local gambling though.

I'm not also in favor of cockfighting because it involves animals being used to fight against each other for humans satisfaction. These creatures have their right to live too the same way we have ours and i just can't stand to see them hurting their very own specie just so the gamblers can have some fun and profit.  

Animal involves with the game seems like the same when they are using them to make a dish both brings satisfaction well we have different perspective and must need to respect.

Cockfighting remains legal in the Philippines but as far as I know, currently it is prohibited to make online bets due to restrictions made by the previous president. Hence, it will be illegal if you will persist to try e-sabong or other types of online betting regarding cockfighting. If you don't want to be punished, better follow the law and do not make stupid decisions that could cost you your life. Since there are already many pending cases related to lost people that has been never even found up until this date related to online cockfighting betting activities.
Online gambling is prohibited right now in the Philippines but the cockpit or the actual cockfight stadium are still open because they have a permit presented and authorized by the government and I cant deny some of the names included in the government are bind on it so they are keep still doing operations, as long as they are submitting the requirement for the particular place to operate they can still run an event.

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August 25, 2023, 04:49:38 PM
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I think it's a game that's played publicly between two groups of people who send their cocks in the fight (after drugging that cock a sip of alcoholic beverage) to give a hard and long fight, but I don't know if there's a casino that offers it. These games are not displayed in TV as well because people think that such games are insane, even they won't display bull fight, bull races and lots of other things that are available in this world but are tagged as insane, which is why due to no high recognition of the game, casinos also don't prefer listing such fights.

Excuse, what do you mean when you say alcohol is used in cockfighting, on the animals themselves? I had never heard anything like that before.
Ideally the owner of the roaster would prefer if it is completely aware of its surroundings and can focus on fighting, giving alcohol to an animal against its will and then forcing them to fight to death sounds even worse than most of the stuff I have read in this thread.  Sad

What country are you from, by the way? Have you personally seen people doing that before betting on roasters or it is only you have only heard about it?

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August 25, 2023, 09:55:08 PM
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I think it's a game that's played publicly between two groups of people who send their cocks in the fight (after drugging that cock a sip of alcoholic beverage) to give a hard and long fight, but I don't know if there's a casino that offers it. These games are not displayed in TV as well because people think that such games are insane, even they won't display bull fight, bull races and lots of other things that are available in this world but are tagged as insane, which is why due to no high recognition of the game, casinos also don't prefer listing such fights.
Perhaps more people don't like the hard and long fights shown on TV, so only a few know that cockfighting still exists in several countries. And cockfighting may still be done secretly because the government may have banned it. But perhaps the fight still exists in remote areas that have not been strictly touched by the government and is carried out by a group of people who come to that location to play cockfighting. This makes it difficult for the authorities to trace where the cockfighting took place because only those familiar with it know and don't spread it to many people.
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August 25, 2023, 10:20:26 PM
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In our country, they were legal like 2-3 years ago but then the government finally decided to stop and make them illegal because of the series of kidnappings due to this type of game. Despite that, there have been a lot of new websites/apps that have come out but they don't have a license to operate so that means they're illegally operating and they will be held behind bars if they get caught. That's possible that in some other countries, they could also face jail time if one has but it differs from each country. But I am just telling that maybe you should change your game if you wanna gamble.
This also happened in the country where I live, because initially cockfighting was claimed as a cultural heritage that had been preserved for a long time, but because money was used for each cockfight and cockfighting was made a means of gambling, the government revoked the legal permit about cockfighting and consider it a form of gambling activity, plus there are groups of community organizations that consider cockfighting to be an activity that tortures animals so they reject the legal permit.
After all, there are only a few gamblers who really like betting on cockfighting, considering that cockfighting is a type of bet that is difficult to predict which one will win.

The thing with cockfighting is that it is very hard to monitor by the government. Yeah, in the beginning specially in the pandemic they allow it because it is money generating for them.

But as we have go back to normal now, they have to crack it down as there are reports that people missing or being killed because of money and there are a lot of crooked cops and even congressman and politicians that are involved.

As for beginning, it's almost 50/50 bet. So it's either you got lucky and bet on the winner or not.
But if it's just a cockfighting event which tends to be small or there are only a few groups, it's still mostly done in some remote rural villages and there is also money at stake for every cock that is fought.
Even so, we can still bet on fiat casinos if we want to bet on cockfights in every event carried out by several countries such as Thailand, Vietnam and the Philippines.

It is true that many criminal cases occur only because of disputes over betting money and in the past the security forces or the police were involved in betting on fights which were still held freely.
Everything is because of money and in every cockfighting bet there is a percentage share for the police who back up the cockfighting event.

Not only happening on rural area but also in urban area since there are big cockpits getting a license to operate such dens. They create big events on that places and many people goes there to bet then have fun with this type of betting. This is big industry on Philippines and it generate if not millions a billion peso to the owner and also to the government officials getting taxes from this venues. If talking about police protecting some big people maybe there is but we don't have any concrete proof that can point out there participation.
Totally a big business which would really be definitely be able to generate that huge revenue on which it would really be taxed accordingly which it would really be that a normal approach just like with those typical businesses. Just like you have said that the are really that huge arena on certain places here also in our place or country on which there are tons of people who do really come at these type of places which do really have that cockfighting involving out millions of money that had been on bet which you could really eventually say that gamblers that on this specific type are really that rich people and there are ones who are just really going along placing with small bets too which is something that could bring out that good profit in times of win.

Just like on what others been saying that this type of gambling is really that something that could be only just good on some south-eastern countries which this is really that evident and something
popular but this one isnt really that been heard on some parts of the world which it isnt really that shocking. There are really things which arent known or popular but to those who had been
living on countries or places which these type of gambling do exist then its normal that there would really be that engagement.

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August 25, 2023, 11:05:13 PM
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I think it's a game that's played publicly between two groups of people who send their cocks in the fight (after drugging that cock a sip of alcoholic beverage) to give a hard and long fight, but I don't know if there's a casino that offers it. These games are not displayed in TV as well because people think that such games are insane, even they won't display bull fight, bull races and lots of other things that are available in this world but are tagged as insane, which is why due to no high recognition of the game, casinos also don't prefer listing such fights.
You're not far off. The practice of intoxicating the chickens are no longer used though. There are casinos that offer these games, although it must be said that these casinos aren't that well known per se, and they are mostly catering only to their local country like the Philippines who had a dedicated cockfighting betting site during the height of the pandemic. It was open on some Sports Channels too back in the day although I don't watch that much TV nowadays so I don't know if they were still up and running.

It's a fairly recognizable sport around the world. The only reason why it's as obscure as you are trying to paint it out to be is because of animal protection laws that prohibit some countries from televising or even setting up these kinds of sports.

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August 26, 2023, 03:28:56 AM
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Anybody know of any crypto casinos that offer cockfighting? preferably vietnamese thai cambodian or filipino

I doubt you can find it on a crypto-casino. Even during its hype, no crypto-casinos open support for cockfighting.

As far as I observed here in the PH country, there are still lots of online cockfighting (also called online sabong here) operators but since it was prohibited, the operation was done closed-door. The best chance you can get is to look for an agent in your nearby place but you should understand the risks.

Even if you will spend time looking for it online, you will just find nothing, especially for crypto-casinos.

Again, an agent should help you but the problem is, how to look for those.
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August 26, 2023, 04:29:25 AM
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I think it's a game that's played publicly between two groups of people who send their cocks in the fight (after drugging that cock a sip of alcoholic beverage) to give a hard and long fight, but I don't know if there's a casino that offers it. These games are not displayed in TV as well because people think that such games are insane, even they won't display bull fight, bull races and lots of other things that are available in this world but are tagged as insane, which is why due to no high recognition of the game, casinos also don't prefer listing such fights.
Perhaps more people don't like the hard and long fights shown on TV, so only a few know that cockfighting still exists in several countries. And cockfighting may still be done secretly because the government may have banned it. But perhaps the fight still exists in remote areas that have not been strictly touched by the government and is carried out by a group of people who come to that location to play cockfighting. This makes it difficult for the authorities to trace where the cockfighting took place because only those familiar with it know and don't spread it to many people.
No government will allow this game to be played. But in many places such games are conducted. If we look at the game of wrestling, there is a scripted game. But still sometimes I get news of some accidents and there is no script written in the game of these animals. Both animals are likely to be harmed in a fight. That's why even though this game is popular, it is not supported by the government. Others consider it a form of animal abuse. But behind the scenes this game is still quite popular. But I have no idea whether this game is run on any casino platform or not.

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August 26, 2023, 04:49:52 AM
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Anybody know of any crypto casinos that offer cockfighting? preferably vietnamese thai cambodian or filipino
So far I haven't found a crypto casino that provides cockfighting, either for fiat casinos because so far I have never played at a fiat casino so I don't know about that, but I think you will find it difficult or you won't find it at any casino because cockfighting is not a type of game permitted to do.
Communities in Southeast Asia often play this game but it is done in secret because the law in that country prohibits such games, because this is not just a game with lots of money involved there because people will bet to choose and it often ends up being a crime because of fights and so on, like in my country even though people still continue to play this game but it will be done in secret and gambling will always be involved in it, with a very large turnover of money.

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August 26, 2023, 04:59:33 AM
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No government will allow this game to be played. But in many places such games are conducted. If we look at the game of wrestling, there is a scripted game. But still sometimes I get news of some accidents and there is no script written in the game of these animals. Both animals are likely to be harmed in a fight. That's why even though this game is popular, it is not supported by the government. Others consider it a form of animal abuse. But behind the scenes this game is still quite popular. But I have no idea whether this game is run on any casino platform or not.
Cockfight is popular in specific countries, few of which were Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia and Southeast Asian part. Thailand have got the best fighting rooster and gambling arenas. Every form of gamble that got the involvement of animals will have opposition from the blue cross and other animal support authority. Most of the countries have cockfight as illegal, but it persists and people continue to gamble on it. As said no platform host/conduct events online with cryptocurrency acceptance.
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August 26, 2023, 07:24:37 AM
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It looks like a bizarre sports adventure against the animals. Animals are meant to be protected and to have them go against each other is not what the international community would like to do or be seeing, I racing is better than fighting and this is why you may not find a casino easily on that. However, on the local stage, people use to have such games where they set up two hen to fight each other and they will be by the side watching and betting. It is an old local gambling though.

I'm not also in favor of cockfighting because it involves animals being used to fight against each other for humans satisfaction. These creatures have their right to live too the same way we have ours and i just can't stand to see them hurting their very own specie just so the gamblers can have some fun and profit.

Cockfighting remains legal in the Philippines but as far as I know, currently it is prohibited to make online bets due to restrictions made by the previous president. Hence, it will be illegal if you will persist to try e-sabong or other types of online betting regarding cockfighting. If you don't want to be punished, better follow the law and do not make stupid decisions that could cost you your life. Since there are already many pending cases related to lost people that has been never even found up until this date related to online cockfighting betting activities.

      -      There are actually a lot of people who do not favor Sabong or cockfighting because the small amount that will only feed the family is still bet on, thinking that they will win the small amount they bet on with a large amount, but usually they lose.

So the result is that the family is affected because of a vice that is used incorrectly, although in some places it is legal and in other places it is illegal. It's just that in other provinces, it's rampant because the people in the province have no other way to earn a living, and that's what they see as a way to make money.

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August 26, 2023, 08:59:49 AM
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No government will allow this game to be played. But in many places such games are conducted. If we look at the game of wrestling, there is a scripted game. But still sometimes I get news of some accidents and there is no script written in the game of these animals. Both animals are likely to be harmed in a fight. That's why even though this game is popular, it is not supported by the government. Others consider it a form of animal abuse. But behind the scenes this game is still quite popular. But I have no idea whether this game is run on any casino platform or not.
There are still places that the government cannot reach because it is difficult for the government to trace the location. That's because the players don't spread the location of the place to many people or many places so that only certain people who are familiar with cockfighting will know about it. They may be spectators who have often seen cockfights and enjoy the fights, apart from the regular players who continue to gamble.

That is why, in some countries, this cockfighting game is still quite popular even though only a few people know its location. But that's enough for us to know that this cockfight is still gambling and is growing rapidly. But we don't know whether this cockfighting fight is available in offline or online casinos.
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August 26, 2023, 09:40:15 AM
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No government will allow this game to be played. But in many places such games are conducted. If we look at the game of wrestling, there is a scripted game. But still sometimes I get news of some accidents and there is no script written in the game of these animals. Both animals are likely to be harmed in a fight. That's why even though this game is popular, it is not supported by the government. Others consider it a form of animal abuse. But behind the scenes this game is still quite popular. But I have no idea whether this game is run on any casino platform or not.
I see the fight as wickedness, and they are just abusing the animals. I don't see anything fun in seeing two animals fight and hurting each other, that's just wickedness to me. The cockfight is not really popular in my country, the animal fight that is popular in my country is the ram fight, which is mostly done during the Muslim festive period but is illegal, so it is done hidden. I see it as animal abuse because one of the animals will get injured, and some might even die. I don't see any fun in that.

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