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September 11, 2023, 10:26:14 PM
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Sorry for the offtopic, couldn't resist Smiley
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September 11, 2023, 11:23:05 PM
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Literally loving them, taking care of them well, in other words, taming them is very good, be it cats, dogs, chickens and others, if you treat them like that, it is a good thing.
But what can I do, there are a lot of people who fight for their own pleasure, even though they are criticized by several parties, such as animal care associations, they still exist and have quite a large community, as well as in my country there are also many communities about cockfighting. .
But unfortunately, many people consider this to be cultural, so even though this is not normal, there are still many people who support it, and do it openly.

The gambling owners should take care of all the animal which they are using for the game.Because the offline based on the animal which involved in the game.So the animal health and capacity defined real winners.The mostly used animal for the game was cat,dogs,cock and horse.When the gamblers involved in the animal based gambling,the get emotional hurting after the loss of their desired animal.If the gamblers had grow the animal in their home,he get emotional touch with the animal and the game.So he also kill the gambler who tease them after the loss was unacceptable one in offline gambling.So many countries ban of the animal based gambling.

Shifting to the opinion you brought, I don't think it's a problem if the gambling in the competition is about competing for beauty and beauty of sound, including horse races that compete for speed, in cases like that it's not a problem in my opinion, it's still fairly normal, which is The problem is when they (animals) are "fighting" which carries the risk of life or death/bloody injuries for the fighting animals, this is what makes fighting very torturous for the fighting animals because it has the consequence of death, even though they were trained before competing. tamed and cared for well, but in practice they are ultimately destined to fight between life and death.
It doesn't matter whether the gambling activity is offline or online.

Wht this basically mean was that gambling sabong or cockfighting online and offline is very different especailly if in online, the fight is generated by a bot or AI fighting cocks or chiecken. Because in real-time or traditional sabong, you can really specify each cock to which you are going to bet. Are you going to bet on which is healthier, look bigger, look faster? But in online, you just really based it on luck or on the record of any side. Are you going to bet on Pula or sa Puti? or Tabla (Tie). Yes such game cause violence but isn't it just same as boxing? Roll Eyes
The difference between both things is on that total ambiance on which the experience that you could get on a game fowl stadium or venue compared when you are just sitting in front of your pc but when it comes to
choosing then it would really be just the same since you could really be able to see those roosters online on who does have that bigger size or which you do seem that it is really that better than the other.
We know that this type of gambling is really that known on asian countries which it is really that far known or really that popular and there are countries which do really allows or legalize this type of gambling
and turns out that there are tons who do really get interested with this type of gambling on which it is really that an issue on some people in speaking about animal cruelty. There's nothing we can do about it
if it was already that part of traditional or basic gambling on a certain place because we know that we do have different types of gambling which it could really be seen or really just that exclusive on a certain place
or some parts of the world but its not something can be seen into others.

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September 12, 2023, 12:55:50 AM
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Still we can't say that such type of virtual cockfighting will be any good for the casinos. Horse racing is very different from cock fighting and both have different level of damages. Horse racing doesn't really harm horse or the jockey directly but yes cockfighting can harm the cocks directly. I don't think that anyone would think to bet on a game like that because virtual cockfighting sounds funny and I don't think that any good casino would ever introduce such game on their platform.
I suppose that illegal casinos will consider providing that service, after all even if many of us would never consider to bet on a cockfight, due to different circumstances I think there are enough people out there that would like to see that service online and even take some bets.

And as we know when there is a demand for something then you can be sure there is going to be someone willing to supply that demand and try to make some money out of it.
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September 12, 2023, 01:35:20 AM
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Virtual cockfighting would be better to be added to online casino since it does not require any living animals to process the program.  Just like the virtual horse racing, the result of the virtual cockfighting is generated by the code.


If they will going to use not real animals then it is great. Here in my country cockfighting is not illegal or maybe not I am not sure since the cockpit is very visible to all passerby , every Sunday they held the fight and there is a specific channel where you can see the fight. It is good to have online cockfight without harming real animals, because we all know that in this kind of game animals are at risk.
I was shocked when I discovered that unlike my country cockfighting is still popular in many countries of the world. The presence of children during these cockfighting games is one of my greatest concerns. These children will be present to see cocks armed with blades on their feet fighting bloody to death. We might end up raising children who lack compassion which can make them violent in the future. Another issue is the spread of animal disease among these fighting cocks. Due to the presence of blood, diseases can easily spread from one bird to another during the fight.  I think animals should be treated well because they also suffer from pain.

An online crypto or fiat cockfighting casino game can also promote the real game but it is better than organizing the real fight.  I have not yet played or bet on cockfighting but I might give it a try anytime soon just to see how it works.

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September 12, 2023, 01:47:11 AM
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Virtual cockfighting would be better to be added to online casino since it does not require any living animals to process the program.  Just like the virtual horse racing, the result of the virtual cockfighting is generated by the code.


If they will going to use not real animals then it is great. Here in my country cockfighting is not illegal or maybe not I am not sure since the cockpit is very visible to all passerby , every Sunday they held the fight and there is a specific channel where you can see the fight. It is good to have online cockfight without harming real animals, because we all know that in this kind of game animals are at risk.
I was shocked when I discovered that unlike my country cockfighting is still popular in many countries of the world. The presence of children during these cockfighting games is one of my greatest concerns. These children will be present to see cocks armed with blades on their feet fighting bloody to death. We might end up raising children who lack compassion which can make them violent in the future. Another issue is the spread of animal disease among these fighting cocks. Due to the presence of blood, diseases can easily spread from one bird to another during the fight.  I think animals should be treated well because they also suffer from pain.

An online crypto or fiat cockfighting casino game can also promote the real game but it is better than organizing the real fight.  I have not yet played or bet on cockfighting but I might give it a try anytime soon just to see how it works.

I was not much surprised on the sight of cockfighting as I was on hearing how much money are on stake for every match and how much does a single fighting cock costs. Both of them are in the range of millions of dollars. Cocks are bread and raised for the specific tasks. They have a high dietary needs and go through trainings by specialized trainers.
And I don't think cockfighting are any different than horse racing as there are specific traits and ability of trainers involved. Millions of chicken are slaughtered everyday to feed people. And not all cock fighting ends on death and many cock recovers quick for another fight.
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September 12, 2023, 04:52:28 AM
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Still we can't say that such type of virtual cockfighting will be any good for the casinos. Horse racing is very different from cock fighting and both have different level of damages. Horse racing doesn't really harm horse or the jockey directly but yes cockfighting can harm the cocks directly. I don't think that anyone would think to bet on a game like that because virtual cockfighting sounds funny and I don't think that any good casino would ever introduce such game on their platform.
I suppose that illegal casinos will consider providing that service, after all even if many of us would never consider to bet on a cockfight, due to different circumstances I think there are enough people out there that would like to see that service online and even take some bets.
correct as I believe cockfighting is more risky and manipualtive comparing to Horse racing though there are hearsay that horse racing is sometimes being rigged or has fixed winning.
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And as we know when there is a demand for something then you can be sure there is going to be someone willing to supply that demand and try to make some money out of it.
but hoping that they will provide legit gaming and not scam or untrusted one .

but i would rather play in real arena cockfighting than online one.









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September 12, 2023, 07:17:09 AM
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I was not much surprised on the sight of cockfighting as I was on hearing how much money are on stake for every match and how much does a single fighting cock costs. Both of them are in the range of millions of dollars. Cocks are bread and raised for the specific tasks. They have a high dietary needs and go through trainings by specialized trainers.
And I don't think cockfighting are any different than horse racing as there are specific traits and ability of trainers involved. Millions of chicken are slaughtered everyday to feed people. And not all cock fighting ends on death and many cock recovers quick for another fight.
That's a lot of money in cockfighting because many people gather in one place to watch the cockfight. And they bet on their chosen chicken with their money and hope to win some money. So it's not a small bet, even though cockfighting bets don't seem interesting to other people who may have never seen the screams of people watching a cockfight.

Cockfighting is no different from horse racing or other sports betting. But the problem is, now, many places have banned cockfighting, forcing bettors to create a special place for cockfighting betting. And the chickens that will be used as fighters are trained to have better stamina to win the bets. Maybe in the future, there will be a lot of resistance from activists who love animals, so the government really needs to pay special attention to cockfighting betting. And there is a possibility that cockfighting betting will be prohibited in the future.

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September 12, 2023, 07:53:42 AM
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Virtual cockfighting would be better to be added to online casino since it does not require any living animals to process the program.  Just like the virtual horse racing, the result of the virtual cockfighting is generated by the code.


If they will going to use not real animals then it is great. Here in my country cockfighting is not illegal or maybe not I am not sure since the cockpit is very visible to all passerby , every Sunday they held the fight and there is a specific channel where you can see the fight. It is good to have online cockfight without harming real animals, because we all know that in this kind of game animals are at risk.
I agree harming animals is really bad but nowadays cock fighting is very less prevalent. Cockfighting in casinos is an ancient game that has been played for betting since ancient times. Although the cockfighting game is not legal in many countries, the online cockfighting live casino game is currently taking time to launch in various countries. In ancient times this type of game was commonly seen in the villages where two cocks were tied for a fight the owner of the rooster used to bet on his rooster.

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September 12, 2023, 08:48:04 AM
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I agree harming animals is really bad but nowadays cock fighting is very less prevalent. Cockfighting in casinos is an ancient game that has been played for betting since ancient times. Although the cockfighting game is not legal in many countries, the online cockfighting live casino game is currently taking time to launch in various countries. In ancient times this type of game was commonly seen in the villages where two cocks were tied for a fight the owner of the rooster used to bet on his rooster.
It seems that it will be difficult for online casinos to hold live casino gambling events like cockfighting, unless there is a locally made online casino that makes it possible to focus this gambling on cockfighting gamblers specifically, because I'm sure there are a lot of objections about this kind of gambling after all, it's not much money. the incoming and large stakes in these matches that allow online casinos are not yet willing to add them.

Another reason may be because I think many gamblers refuse to bet on bets like this because they have to hurt animals and could die because of cockfighting. In fact, this discussion will not reach a common ground because everyone will definitely reject it if it is added to an online casino. who are on this forum.

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September 12, 2023, 09:11:12 AM
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Virtual cockfighting would be better to be added to online casino since it does not require any living animals to process the program.  Just like the virtual horse racing, the result of the virtual cockfighting is generated by the code.


If they will going to use not real animals then it is great. Here in my country cockfighting is not illegal or maybe not I am not sure since the cockpit is very visible to all passerby , every Sunday they held the fight and there is a specific channel where you can see the fight. It is good to have online cockfight without harming real animals, because we all know that in this kind of game animals are at risk.
I agree harming animals is really bad but nowadays cock fighting is very less prevalent. Cockfighting in casinos is an ancient game that has been played for betting since ancient times. Although the cockfighting game is not legal in many countries, the online cockfighting live casino game is currently taking time to launch in various countries. In ancient times this type of game was commonly seen in the villages where two cocks were tied for a fight the owner of the rooster used to bet on his rooster.
cock that is used in cockfighting are breed just to perform that act, and sadly this is what they are born with so we must accept that reality ..
this is the world we are living now , and it is part of gambling now.
but if given a chance? i will deny using them for gambling instead I will banned this gambling
and let players only enjoy other form of gambling.

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September 12, 2023, 11:13:53 AM
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Virtual cockfighting would be better to be added to online casino since it does not require any living animals to process the program.  Just like the virtual horse racing, the result of the virtual cockfighting is generated by the code.


If they will going to use not real animals then it is great. Here in my country cockfighting is not illegal or maybe not I am not sure since the cockpit is very visible to all passerby , every Sunday they held the fight and there is a specific channel where you can see the fight. It is good to have online cockfight without harming real animals, because we all know that in this kind of game animals are at risk.

If that can be offer why not, but I think since it's culture that brings this kind of gambling it might be tough for those gamblers who also raising their own roster, believing that code can be cheated unlike with live animals they are confident that there's something that can give them an edge to win against another gambler who raise their own rosters.

A kind of mindsets that mostly present with gamblers who are well-aware with how the game being played, always finding even a small edge against someone else.

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September 12, 2023, 12:45:00 PM
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Still we can't say that such type of virtual cockfighting will be any good for the casinos. Horse racing is very different from cock fighting and both have different level of damages. Horse racing doesn't really harm horse or the jockey directly but yes cockfighting can harm the cocks directly. I don't think that anyone would think to bet on a game like that because virtual cockfighting sounds funny and I don't think that any good casino would ever introduce such game on their platform.
I suppose that illegal casinos will consider providing that service, after all even if many of us would never consider to bet on a cockfight, due to different circumstances I think there are enough people out there that would like to see that service online and even take some bets.

And as we know when there is a demand for something then you can be sure there is going to be someone willing to supply that demand and try to make some money out of it.
Big demand actually.
I think the big reason they want to ban cockfighting online is because many customers are leaving the real cockfighting event in each local cockpit. That's what I think is happening here in the Philippines. After they banned that online "sabong" the patrons of the said gambling service are back and if only I could let you see how many cars are parked here near us during a session is happening. So many rich people that even the main road was being taken due to the overflowing of people coming into the cockfighting arena.
Now, cash is flowing for the local government compared to when there's online cockfighting where they get zero out of it. This had been one of the oldest gambling games here in the Philippines so I don't think they would just let any gambling site take that profit out because the government is milking it too.
So for OP, it would be difficult to find a legal online cockfight, you might need to go underground where normal people won't have access with it.

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September 12, 2023, 02:28:08 PM
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Virtual cockfighting would be better to be added to online casino since it does not require any living animals to process the program.  Just like the virtual horse racing, the result of the virtual cockfighting is generated by the code.


If they will going to use not real animals then it is great. Here in my country cockfighting is not illegal or maybe not I am not sure since the cockpit is very visible to all passerby , every Sunday they held the fight and there is a specific channel where you can see the fight. It is good to have online cockfight without harming real animals, because we all know that in this kind of game animals are at risk.

If that can be offer why not, but I think since it's culture that brings this kind of gambling it might be tough for those gamblers who also raising their own roster, believing that code can be cheated unlike with live animals they are confident that there's something that can give them an edge to win against another gambler who raise their own rosters.

A kind of mindsets that mostly present with gamblers who are well-aware with how the game being played, always finding even a small edge against someone else.

Maybe there's a lot of consequences of that knowing that a system could be cheated by its owners so it may not be so good for people who use to gamble live in cockpit arena or last introduce where they use real cocks. Although its bit harsh for other but gamblers can make sure that all is fair especially when they use real roster on that match. Unlike on fake ones maybe this can create trouble knowing not all people can easily understand about situation that luck is not always on their side.

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September 12, 2023, 06:05:58 PM
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Virtual cockfighting would be better to be added to online casino since it does not require any living animals to process the program.  Just like the virtual horse racing, the result of the virtual cockfighting is generated by the code.


If they will going to use not real animals then it is great. Here in my country cockfighting is not illegal or maybe not I am not sure since the cockpit is very visible to all passerby , every Sunday they held the fight and there is a specific channel where you can see the fight. It is good to have online cockfight without harming real animals, because we all know that in this kind of game animals are at risk.

Still we can't say that such type of virtual cockfighting will be any good for the casinos. Horse racing is very different from cock fighting and both have different level of damages. Horse racing doesn't really harm horse or the jockey directly but yes cockfighting can harm the cocks directly. I don't think that anyone would think to bet on a game like that because virtual cockfighting sounds funny and I don't think that any good casino would ever introduce such game on their platform.

I would think that I am referring to a thousand times more virtual cockfights that happen in reality, because in reality things tend to be much more painful , in addition to being seen as child abuse , on the other hand, via virtual Means it would not be a bad thing to say that let's see that do they do it like that? Because it is a digital world , it would not go against anything, besides for those of this type of fights it would be a matter of reliving something or those events that are good for them but in a way where no one will get hurt or take the risk that they may. report it or something similar, plus it would be a totally different game, the horse racing thing is something that could also happen, because it is not considered Animal abuse but here things go to another level, it is a digital level where things , the laws no longer intervene here, furthermore they are not Encouraging People to start holding contests or tournaments that are in real life but in a digital casino , it wouldn't seem bad to me, it is the best for lovers of these games they can enjoy them.

I've also been thinking about something, I haven't seen this type of game in any casino, it will be good because they can do something good, where each player even has the right to train their own rooster and thus a good tournament can be generated based on the skills they have. Each player injects his rooster, also the horses, because they can have races and generate a lot of money, because there are always people who, despite everything, have good eyesight for horse racing and also luck, I don't know, but first Here where I live, this was played a lot, the gamblers stayed late to watch the horse races and bet, it was something that I personally saw how they liked it and they bet very hard to be able to have good results , so based on To this we could say that anyone who played it would not hesitate to play virtually in a casino just to feel that Emotion again that Cannot be Experienced if that Attraction is no longer there.

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September 12, 2023, 06:39:02 PM
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Virtual cockfighting would be better to be added to online casino since it does not require any living animals to process the program.  Just like the virtual horse racing, the result of the virtual cockfighting is generated by the code.


If they will going to use not real animals then it is great. Here in my country cockfighting is not illegal or maybe not I am not sure since the cockpit is very visible to all passerby , every Sunday they held the fight and there is a specific channel where you can see the fight. It is good to have online cockfight without harming real animals, because we all know that in this kind of game animals are at risk.
I agree harming animals is really bad but nowadays cock fighting is very less prevalent. Cockfighting in casinos is an ancient game that has been played for betting since ancient times. Although the cockfighting game is not legal in many countries, the online cockfighting live casino game is currently taking time to launch in various countries. In ancient times this type of game was commonly seen in the villages where two cocks were tied for a fight the owner of the rooster used to bet on his rooster.
cock that is used in cockfighting are breed just to perform that act, and sadly this is what they are born with so we must accept that reality ..
this is the world we are living now , and it is part of gambling now.
but if given a chance? i will deny using them for gambling instead I will banned this gambling
and let players only enjoy other form of gambling.
Now people do not give much priority to emotions. Even in religious matters, many are indifferent. People now value money the most. Due to which, there is no room for emotion in them. There are many people who, if told that organizing an event like a cockfight would get them more money, would undoubtedly organize the cockfight. If it is known as some kind of cruel game. Such games are popular but should be ignored. I personally don't endorse these games and don't want to conduct it.

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September 13, 2023, 05:26:18 AM
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Anybody know of any crypto casinos that offer cockfighting? preferably vietnamese thai cambodian or filipino
I've  seen a similar  thread like this some time ago and i can't remember anyone mentioning if any casino offers such games but to the best of my knowledge,  I don't think  there are any casino that actually offer this stuffs bjt personally  I haven't witnessed any of this fighting but I've seen them in movies mostly in thai movies and most times it's always been bet on.
I think since this cockfighting is now becoming a thread and gamblers are now wanting to see them, then I think  it should be considered because aside betting on them, it will be a very interesting  match to watch as well.

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September 13, 2023, 07:26:31 AM
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Cockfighting is a local game and the first time I have watch such game was in a local place in my country this happened between some farmers that are near my agricultural land in the area, I could see some local placing some money on the game by using their cocks to fight, but the problem is not many people are into this game because it is so local so much that some countries that don't have interest in such games.

You can't travel down to Canada or US and except to see such game happening, you can easily see such only in countries like India, Africa countries, Vietnam and few others, some countries even place right ban on this type of games.

I am not a big fan of such game because it's cruelty to me, you are simply forcing the cocks to fight each other, it's like intentionally inflicting pain on the animals and deriving fun and pleasure from it, I believe it's wrong.

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September 13, 2023, 08:15:18 AM
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Cockfighting is a local game and the first time I have watch such game was in a local place in my country this happened between some farmers that are near my agricultural land in the area, I could see some local placing some money on the game by using their cocks to fight, but the problem is not many people are into this game because it is so local so much that some countries that don't have interest in such games.

You can't travel down to Canada or US and except to see such game happening, you can easily see such only in countries like India, Africa countries, Vietnam and few others, some countries even place right ban on this type of games.

I am not a big fan of such game because it's cruelty to me, you are simply forcing the cocks to fight each other, it's like intentionally inflicting pain on the animals and deriving fun and pleasure from it, I believe it's wrong.
Of course this is wrong. 
But in the countries you mentioned, it is still impossible to stop such entertainment even if the appropriate laws are passed.  If such laws are adopted, then the business associated with cockfighting will simply become disguised, secret, but will continue. 
I think that only after decades and several generations of people will it be possible to state that these cockfi hts are a thing of the past, as cruel and unacceptable entertainment for civilized people.  However, there is one more condition for such a course of events.  People in these countries will have to receive the best education, and at the same time, moral standards will have to be present in teaching children that such entertainment is extremely cruel and completely unacceptable in a developed society. 
This is the only way, after several generations of people in countries where this is a tradition, this rather cruel entertainment can be   stopped.

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September 13, 2023, 09:52:31 AM
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I was not much surprised on the sight of cockfighting as I was on hearing how much money are on stake for every match and how much does a single fighting cock costs. Both of them are in the range of millions of dollars. Cocks are bread and raised for the specific tasks. They have a high dietary needs and go through trainings by specialized trainers.
And I don't think cockfighting are any different than horse racing as there are specific traits and ability of trainers involved. Millions of chicken are slaughtered everyday to feed people. And not all cock fighting ends on death and many cock recovers quick for another fight.
That's a lot of money in cockfighting because many people gather in one place to watch the cockfight. And they bet on their chosen chicken with their money and hope to win some money. So it's not a small bet, even though cockfighting bets don't seem interesting to other people who may have never seen the screams of people watching a cockfight.

Cockfighting is no different from horse racing or other sports betting. But the problem is, now, many places have banned cockfighting, forcing bettors to create a special place for cockfighting betting. And the chickens that will be used as fighters are trained to have better stamina to win the bets. Maybe in the future, there will be a lot of resistance from activists who love animals, so the government really needs to pay special attention to cockfighting betting. And there is a possibility that cockfighting betting will be prohibited in the future.
The sport is already banned in most parts of the world because it's an unethical and selfish sport. People who make cocks fight and those who spectate are basically selfish because they make those poor animals fight to death only so that they can watch and enjoy and place bets and win. There are thousands of other games and sports that they can do the same thing with, they don't need to make those poor animals suffer just for their entertainment.

Social activists and animal protecting authorities should find such places and cease this from happening and they should also arrest people who are involved in cockfighting and also those who are there watching and making bets on the games, this is the only way they might stop doing this unethical act.

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September 13, 2023, 12:32:12 PM
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Virtual cockfighting would be better to be added to online casino since it does not require any living animals to process the program.  Just like the virtual horse racing, the result of the virtual cockfighting is generated by the code.


If they will going to use not real animals then it is great. Here in my country cockfighting is not illegal or maybe not I am not sure since the cockpit is very visible to all passerby , every Sunday they held the fight and there is a specific channel where you can see the fight. It is good to have online cockfight without harming real animals, because we all know that in this kind of game animals are at risk.

If that can be offer why not, but I think since it's culture that brings this kind of gambling it might be tough for those gamblers who also raising their own roster, believing that code can be cheated unlike with live animals they are confident that there's something that can give them an edge to win against another gambler who raise their own rosters.

A kind of mindsets that mostly present with gamblers who are well-aware with how the game being played, always finding even a small edge against someone else.

Maybe there's a lot of consequences of that knowing that a system could be cheated by its owners so it may not be so good for people who use to gamble live in cockpit arena or last introduce where they use real cocks. Although its bit harsh for other but gamblers can make sure that all is fair especially when they use real roster on that match. Unlike on fake ones maybe this can create trouble knowing not all people can easily understand about situation that luck is not always on their side.

Same with how you see it, codes can cheated though casino or programmers can provide fair system but that doubt from the gambler who usually bet with cockfighting, they are convinced that by looking from the roster they can assess if they have that edge and aside from luck which really the big factor in winning your bet, they also believing in some principles that only them who can explain, things like supernatural believe and so on.. Always present with gamblers who use cockfighting as venue of entertainment plus possible in making good and decent amount of money if they luckily predict or bring the best roster that they've got.

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