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August 25, 2023, 06:12:14 AM
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You are right, some people who feel that it's good to deposit and play gambles first before verifying it kyc is the best, they are people who complain mostly in gambling websites, kyc verification needs to be done before involving in any act of things in a particular platform, because I believe that why some people do have issues in a particular platform is because they refuse to follow the instructions of gambling platform I know, so in particular gambling platform you need to study their requirements first before associating or working with them properly.
Well, you are right, but then, it's all due to the nature or gambling though, and for the fact that people do not take it really serious due to the fact that it always involves very small about of money, most especially for those who are not high rollers.

Like for example, I have just $20 or $50 to play with, it is normal not to consider that a high enough amount of money to warrant me first going through a verification process, waiting days to get verified before depositing that amount and playing, gamblers usually don't see it as worth the stress, until luck hits them and they win some reasonable amount of money..

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August 25, 2023, 08:16:08 AM
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You are right, some people who feel that it's good to deposit and play gambles first before verifying it kyc is the best, they are people who complain mostly in gambling websites, kyc verification needs to be done before involving in any act of things in a particular platform, because I believe that why some people do have issues in a particular platform is because they refuse to follow the instructions of gambling platform I know, so in particular gambling platform you need to study their requirements first before associating or working with them properly.
Well, you are right, but then, it's all due to the nature or gambling though, and for the fact that people do not take it really serious due to the fact that it always involves very small about of money, most especially for those who are not high rollers.

Like for example, I have just $20 or $50 to play with, it is normal not to consider that a high enough amount of money to warrant me first going through a verification process, waiting days to get verified before depositing that amount and playing, gamblers usually don't see it as worth the stress, until luck hits them and they win some reasonable amount of money..

The truth is that sometimes when we are so desperate to place a bet we don't think about the options to read the terms and conditions in the site, sometimes the reason we face such challenges is because we change our minds from our previous account to a new betting sites, thats why we finds is somehow difficult to withdraw our winning from a gambling sites.
Reading the terms and conditions of any new sites and also passing the KYC will reduce our minds from provoking imagine you won a bet and finds it difficult to withdraw your winnings.

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August 25, 2023, 08:22:01 AM
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Verifying later on is a good practice for privacy, while the other way around is assumption of having a security of the deposit and future withdrawals. Where in fact your account can be locked even though you are already kyc verified, since your KYC is not the only thing they will look at when there's a "suspicious" activity on the account. For those users who have single playing casino, that's good, not for those who have multiple casinos. Why people plays in different casino? Simply because they don't share the same odds, games, game provider, etc.
Even if someone uses multiple platforms, they should only go with the ones that are the most trusted and reputable platforms so that they don't face any issues when they do their KYC verification with them. When you are doing KYC verification on a platform that is new in the market and you haven't heard any reviews about it yet, you will surely not have peace of mind and you will feel like your identity documents and personal information might be misused.

So, when a gambler wants to try different games or see better odds at a different platform, they should first make sure that the platform is trusted and then they can go for it. If they want to try a new platform, they don't need to do KYC at first but shouldn't deposit a lot of money.

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August 25, 2023, 08:44:46 AM
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The truth is that sometimes when we are so desperate to place a bet we don't think about the options to read the terms and conditions in the site, sometimes the reason we face such challenges is because we change our minds from our previous account to a new betting sites, thats why we finds is somehow difficult to withdraw our winning from a gambling sites.
Reading the terms and conditions of any new sites and also passing the KYC will reduce our minds from provoking imagine you won a bet and finds it difficult to withdraw your winnings.
What terms and conditions you refer to?

Most of casinos only stated the KYC verification will take some time to be verified, some time isn't specific and if you contact the live support, they will say as soon as possible. Not to mention there are few casinos ever solve an accusation was late from the promise because so many excuses and so called investigation which no one can verify it.

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August 25, 2023, 09:00:03 AM
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The truth is that sometimes when we are so desperate to place a bet we don't think about the options to read the terms and conditions in the site, sometimes the reason we face such challenges is because we change our minds from our previous account to a new betting sites, thats why we finds is somehow difficult to withdraw our winning from a gambling sites.
Reading the terms and conditions of any new sites and also passing the KYC will reduce our minds from provoking imagine you won a bet and finds it difficult to withdraw your winnings.
What terms and conditions you refer to?

Most of casinos only stated the KYC verification will take some time to be verified, some time isn't specific and if you contact the live support, they will say as soon as possible.

The gambling site I'm using doesn't require KYC to start gambling, so you're right; they will only require it later when they choose to, based on their terms and services, and we are obliged to comply. As of now, my account is still normal. I created it in 2020, and I haven't been required to undergo KYC, maybe because I haven't won? Let's see if they will require me a KYC once I start winning.  Smiley

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Not to mention there are few casinos ever solve an accusation was late from the promise because so many excuses and so called investigation which no one can verify it.
It's their personal investigation, so we have no choice but to wait, but if it's a reputable casino, you'll surely be treated fairly.

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August 25, 2023, 09:05:11 AM
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The gambling site I'm using doesn't require KYC to start gambling, so you're right; they will only require it later when they choose to, based on their terms and services, and we are obliged to comply. As of now, my account is still normal. I created it in 2020, and I haven't been required to undergo KYC, maybe because I haven't won? Let's see if they will require me a KYC once I start winning.  Smiley


If you can care to tell us which gambling site you're playing since 2020, and you are not asked for KYC  ?

In all these years, you haven't been able to win anything significant as it has been 3 years now since 2020.

Also note they may not ask for KYC if you started to win, usually the casino are more concerned if you want to withdraw the big amount ? If you continue playing with the winning amount, there are fine with it.

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August 25, 2023, 09:26:30 AM
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Verifying later on is a good practice for privacy, while the other way around is assumption of having a security of the deposit and future withdrawals. Where in fact your account can be locked even though you are already kyc verified, since your KYC is not the only thing they will look at when there's a "suspicious" activity on the account. For those users who have single playing casino, that's good, not for those who have multiple casinos. Why people plays in different casino? Simply because they don't share the same odds, games, game provider, etc.
Even if someone uses multiple platforms, they should only go with the ones that are the most trusted and reputable platforms so that they don't face any issues when they do their KYC verification with them. When you are doing KYC verification on a platform that is new in the market and you haven't heard any reviews about it yet, you will surely not have peace of mind and you will feel like your identity documents and personal information might be misused.

So, when a gambler wants to try different games or see better odds at a different platform, they should first make sure that the platform is trusted and then they can go for it. If they want to try a new platform, they don't need to do KYC at first but shouldn't deposit a lot of money.
You're absolutely right to exercise caution while using platforms, particularly those that are brand-new and haven't shown their utility. I've watched companies come and go; some are legitimate, some aren't so much

To put it bluntly, KYC is garbage. A total, total, irrefutable trash. Alright, so what? If we want to play the game in this contemporary environment, we have to accept this garbage. It's an evil that's essential, yet neither you nor I love it

For the gamblers you alluded to, intelligence is paramount. Sure, give the new games a try and relish the rush of a good wager, but always, always, exercise caution when it comes to where you invest your money. As you said, scout the area before jumping in headlong. Use the excellent judgment you possess and resist the temptation to be duped by any platform

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Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.
I would prefer not to do KYC until the casino forces me to do it when I have my money stuck at the casino, unless it has been stated in their terms and conditions that I have to do KYC first then I can take the next steps, such as depositing and playing, then like it or not players have to comply but if it has been mentioned beforehand then looking for another casino would be more my choice, because to be honest I don't like KYC and pretty sure many players also feel the same way not liking KYC.
But if there are players who prefer KYC at the beginning so they don't face problems in the middle of the game then that's up to them, and actually, there is a way we don't have to do a lot of KYC, namely by only being loyal to one or two casinos that are trusted and have fulfilled everything needed by gamblers.
Chasing bonuses and other promotions from a new casino can be tempting sometimes but remember that it will make us do a lot of KYC, and they can misuse our data because we don't understand how trusted the new casino is.

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August 25, 2023, 06:06:07 PM
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The gambling site I'm using doesn't require KYC to start gambling, so you're right; they will only require it later when they choose to, based on their terms and services, and we are obliged to comply. As of now, my account is still normal. I created it in 2020, and I haven't been required to undergo KYC, maybe because I haven't won? Let's see if they will require me a KYC once I start winning.  Smiley


If you can care to tell us which gambling site you're playing since 2020, and you are not asked for KYC  ?

In all these years, you haven't been able to win anything significant as it has been 3 years now since 2020.

Also note they may not ask for KYC if you started to win, usually the casino are more concerned if you want to withdraw the big amount ? If you continue playing with the winning amount, there are fine with it.
A few casinos could allow you to play for such a long time without demands for KYC as long as you dont violates any of there terms of service and you withdrawal vs deposits remains within the limit stated.

So I am not surprised to see that the players could go all the way since 2020 to date without being asked for KYC,  but then he must have it at the back of his mind that at some point he will have to do the KYC if the casino stated KYC in the terms of service.
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August 25, 2023, 06:52:21 PM
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I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.
As for me, I am confident to do a KYC after I have done enough research and found out that the casino is legit. Only those shady casinos are going to do what you said. In the era of KYC, I always make sure that I verify my account first before getting started. I recommend other people to do the same. It's only for our own good.

Yes, not all times it's in the casino but sometimes it's about us. Our pictures are blurry so it is rejected and we did not follow their other instructions. So it's better to observed first than to blame easily. If it takes a long time to approve our KYC, or we simply find it hard to pass them and there are no money involved yet, we can always moved on to the other platform.
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August 25, 2023, 07:43:48 PM
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I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.
I have a bad experience about it. Most of the gambling site need to pass KYC. But i was first time for gambling site. So i was not experienced. I was deposited $70 and played some bet i made $110 But when i tried to withdraw then i saw problem. Need to submit KYC and pass. I submitted my information to pass KYC but several times it failed then i was need emergency money. But without KYC not possible withdraw. It was big problem and hassles for me. But after submitted 7 times my KYC approved. And then i was capable to withdraw money.  So i will tell everyone, in gambling site when you creat account then complete KYC it will be very helpful for you. And you can easily withdraw your fund.

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August 25, 2023, 10:13:20 PM
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The gambling site I'm using doesn't require KYC to start gambling, so you're right; they will only require it later when they choose to, based on their terms and services, and we are obliged to comply. As of now, my account is still normal. I created it in 2020, and I haven't been required to undergo KYC, maybe because I haven't won? Let's see if they will require me a KYC once I start winning.  Smiley


If you can care to tell us which gambling site you're playing since 2020, and you are not asked for KYC  ?

In all these years, you haven't been able to win anything significant as it has been 3 years now since 2020.

Also note they may not ask for KYC if you started to win, usually the casino are more concerned if you want to withdraw the big amount ? If you continue playing with the winning amount, there are fine with it.
A few casinos could allow you to play for such a long time without demands for KYC as long as you dont violates any of there terms of service and you withdrawal vs deposits remains within the limit stated.

So I am not surprised to see that the players could go all the way since 2020 to date without being asked for KYC,  but then he must have it at the back of his mind that at some point he will have to do the KYC if the casino stated KYC in the terms of service.
I remember in this forum there was a gambling site that had old customers or some people had accounts there with high VIP but didn't do KYC from the first time the gambling was founded and to this day some of these people always have no problems with withdrawals or deposits. in bulk and also not required to send KYC.
I also actually agree with what you said that maybe there are some people who have free gambling accounts without KYC and have never experienced problems because they have never violated gambling rules but that worry will come when they accidentally violate gambling rules and are forced to send personal data or KYC.

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August 25, 2023, 10:35:55 PM
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I remember in this forum there was a gambling site that had old customers or some people had accounts there with high VIP but didn't do KYC from the first time the gambling was founded and to this day some of these people always have no problems with withdrawals or deposits. in bulk and also not required to send KYC.
I also actually agree with what you said that maybe there are some people who have free gambling accounts without KYC and have never experienced problems because they have never violated gambling rules but that worry will come when they accidentally violate gambling rules and are forced to send personal data or KYC.[/left]
It not about KYC it's about the activities of the gambler that warrant the implementation of kyc in casinos and lately,  due to the increasing number of violation of the terms of service of the casino by the players e.g in the area of multiple account ts to claim bonuses,  this have been frowned upon by casinos but up till now,  some gamblers still endurge I such abuse of casino system.

So this are the kind of attacks that warrants for the implementation of kyc and in doing that,  casinos know each and every players activities and once the see or suspect fowl play I the account activities, there can demand for KYC verification from such player.
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I remember in this forum there was a gambling site that had old customers or some people had accounts there with high VIP but didn't do KYC from the first time the gambling was founded and to this day some of these people always have no problems with withdrawals or deposits. in bulk and also not required to send KYC.
I also actually agree with what you said that maybe there are some people who have free gambling accounts without KYC and have never experienced problems because they have never violated gambling rules but that worry will come when they accidentally violate gambling rules and are forced to send personal data or KYC.[/left]
It not about KYC it's about the activities of the gambler that warrant the implementation of kyc in casinos and lately,  due to the increasing number of violation of the terms of service of the casino by the players e.g in the area of multiple account ts to claim bonuses,  this have been frowned upon by casinos but up till now,  some gamblers still endurge I such abuse of casino system.

So this are the kind of attacks that warrants for the implementation of kyc and in doing that,  casinos know each and every players activities and once the see or suspect fowl play I the account activities, there can demand for KYC verification from such player.
People should really be at least trying out to comprehend on what are the probable cause for those possible kyc requirements on which this is really that pertaining with those possible violations or illegal activities

done by some players on which it is really just that right that they would really be having that kind of right on asking for some verification if ever they would be finding some violation which it is really just that a common approach.If we do try out to compare to those sites who are really that asking some KYC on the time that you do reach out that certain deposit or withdrawal threshold then i could say that it is really that totally different because the situation above does really only just pertain about certain conditions or happenings on which means that if ever you are playing on the right way and doesnt violate out something
then you could really play all you want without having that risk on being asked out for some kyc.

This is why it would always falls down on peoples preference when it comes to choices of the gambling site that they are playing with,as much as possible then you would really be
that prefer on sites that having no strict KYC compliance.

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August 25, 2023, 11:26:31 PM
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People should really be at least trying out to comprehend on what are the probable cause for those possible kyc requirements on which this is really that pertaining with those possible violations or illegal activities

done by some players on which it is really just that right that they would really be having that kind of right on asking for some verification if ever they would be finding some violation which it is really just that a common approach.If we do try out to compare to those sites who are really that asking some KYC on the time that you do reach out that certain deposit or withdrawal threshold then i could say that it is really that totally different because the situation above does really only just pertain about certain conditions or happenings on which means that if ever you are playing on the right way and doesnt violate out something
then you could really play all you want without having that risk on being asked out for some kyc.


The people should prepare the casino which mandatory the kyc for the safety for their money in future.Mostly the casino won't ask the kyc verification at the time of deposit and playing.So it doesn't mean,the casino support the money laundering.Mostly the kyc is mandatory at the time of withdraw funds from casino,So the casino site made the end check for the money laundering activities.Kyc was the important in the gambling site.Most website which mandatory kyc will be good for long term gamblers.

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August 25, 2023, 11:31:15 PM
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It not about KYC it's about the activities of the gambler that warrant the implementation of kyc in casinos and lately,  due to the increasing number of violation of the terms of service of the casino by the players e.g in the area of multiple account ts to claim bonuses,  this have been frowned upon by casinos but up till now,  some gamblers still endurge I such abuse of casino system.

So this are the kind of attacks that warrants for the implementation of kyc and in doing that,  casinos know each and every players activities and once the see or suspect fowl play I the account activities, there can demand for KYC verification from such player.

Some gamblers are just overreacting with KYC where they think if that is being asked, it will now be prone to identity theft or something. In that case, they can just proceed and play without doing such. Being asked about KYC in gambling sites is common nowadays in fiat casinos that's why these crypto-gamblers are overreacting to that kind of requirement because obviously, they are not used to doing it.

Simply put this way, if a crypto-gambler doesn't want that kind of stuff, then stay on their preferred gambling site where KYC is not even a big deal and don't engage in other sites where they might think KYC will be a mandatory requirement. I'm in favor of what OP wants to make a KYC first before deposit because I found it more not user-friendly, especially for new users not unless stated otherwise right at the registration period that KYC is a must.

Their gambling sites, their rules. It's not that gambling sites should adjust for what we want.
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August 26, 2023, 02:51:30 AM
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It both has advantages and disadvantages but isn't the most important criteria that the site is legit? If a site is legit in terms of licenses and registration and you win a lot of money on their platform and they still deny the payout, at least you would have a chance to sue them if you've done nothing wrong. If a site is unknown or can't be sufficiently verified, it should be avoided altogether. There is nothing you can do when such a site denies a payout. On legit sites I would always expect them to ask for KYC and be ready to provide it unless the own preference for data privacy outweighs the money that is at risk there.

The notion that a gaming license adds legitimacy to online casinos needs to be dispelled. It's not true. The gaming licenses of most of these casinos have aren't worth the paper they're written on. Most are from Curaçao and the barrier to entry for a license is paying a yearly fee. When evaluating a casino, overlook their gaming license entirely. Rely solely on user feedback. If the casino has none, don't deposit.
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August 26, 2023, 10:02:37 AM
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It both has advantages and disadvantages but isn't the most important criteria that the site is legit? If a site is legit in terms of licenses and registration and you win a lot of money on their platform and they still deny the payout, at least you would have a chance to sue them if you've done nothing wrong. If a site is unknown or can't be sufficiently verified, it should be avoided altogether. There is nothing you can do when such a site denies a payout. On legit sites I would always expect them to ask for KYC and be ready to provide it unless the own preference for data privacy outweighs the money that is at risk there.

The notion that a gaming license adds legitimacy to online casinos needs to be dispelled. It's not true. The gaming licenses of most of these casinos have aren't worth the paper they're written on. Most are from Curaçao and the barrier to entry for a license is paying a yearly fee. When evaluating a casino, overlook their gaming license entirely. Rely solely on user feedback. If the casino has none, don't deposit.
Always look for reviews or feedback from users in this forum to avoid fake reviews that we might encounter if we look for reviews from out there or from search engines. By looking for reviews from users in this forum, we will avoid scam casinos that will be useless to us because they will take our money without wanting to process our withdrawals even if we have done KYC at their casino. Always looking for and using casinos on these forums will be better than trying to find casinos from out there because we might need help finding truly honest reviews about casinos.
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August 26, 2023, 04:26:01 PM
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Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.
But then again, the people that use these sportsbooks and casinos usually aren't first time gamblers..which means chances are high they have undergone KYC on other platforms without any rejection and they would be confident that they can play now and get to pass KYC later and 95% of the time it works!

But for anybody new to the gambling  🎰  world, word of advice should be KYC before deposit to avoid any future problems when trying to withdraw as these casino's act funny sometimes Roll Eyes.

It is that this is ideal, but I do not know if you have noticed that in some places, and it seems very unwelcome is that for everything it is "deposit and you will get a 100% bonus" or "deposit" that is something that in most Some of the casinos that are not in the top 5 or top 10 do it, they do it to be able to capitalize and obviously they want them to make the deposit by taking the bonus so that they have more option to retain that money, well it is their way of getting players and that they can stay In the casino, that is respected in their way of marketing, or whatever, but at least I hate to see that for anything, the warning comes out big: "Deposit now!" because they should say in a big way "meet your KYC requirement so you can deposit and withdraw your money without problems", but I think that neither with aladin's lamp nor with the dragon spheres they can or will do it, they are interested in depositing and that they then fight to comply with the KYC to be able to withdraw.

Well, I have mostly seen these cases in casinos that are relatively new, that have hardly been on the market for long and still do not have an apparent reputation, the difference with the old casinos or the casinos that have more reputation in the forum is that they do not need to ask for it because your reputation speaks for itself and that is what it represents, of course, for example in the case of the best casinos on the forum or what I consider to be the best in the forum such as stake.com things are different in the KYC in their There is no problem with the required levels, because they are casinos that have a lot of time and that pay the money that the players win. I can say the same about bitcasino.io, rollbit, dulebits and all the casinos that are particularly active here on the forum and want to They have a great reputation, those casinos don't have that kind of system or they don't need it, even though it could be a great option if they wanted to do it, something like to give an example, of course this is something I'm speculating, but it's not that they should do it, as I said before, everyone manages their company and their business model as they wish.

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August 26, 2023, 05:45:22 PM
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It both has advantages and disadvantages but isn't the most important criteria that the site is legit? If a site is legit in terms of licenses and registration and you win a lot of money on their platform and they still deny the payout, at least you would have a chance to sue them if you've done nothing wrong. If a site is unknown or can't be sufficiently verified, it should be avoided altogether. There is nothing you can do when such a site denies a payout. On legit sites I would always expect them to ask for KYC and be ready to provide it unless the own preference for data privacy outweighs the money that is at risk there.

The notion that a gaming license adds legitimacy to online casinos needs to be dispelled. It's not true. The gaming licenses of most of these casinos have aren't worth the paper they're written on. Most are from Curaçao and the barrier to entry for a license is paying a yearly fee. When evaluating a casino, overlook their gaming license entirely. Rely solely on user feedback. If the casino has none, don't deposit.
Always look for reviews or feedback from users in this forum to avoid fake reviews that we might encounter if we look for reviews from out there or from search engines. By looking for reviews from users in this forum, we will avoid scam casinos that will be useless to us because they will take our money without wanting to process our withdrawals even if we have done KYC at their casino. Always looking for and using casinos on these forums will be better than trying to find casinos from out there because we might need help finding truly honest reviews about casinos.
It is really just a normal or common approach on having that in depth review would be always recommended on which you cant really just simply throw off some deposits on new sites just it is really just that look appealing.
Always recommended that you should really be that having that research first before doing any action because if you do miss out on doing so then you would really be definitely be possibly putting up yourself on such risks on being scammed or being victim by some fraud just because you had missed out on doing such thing. It doesnt really cost an arm and leg for someone to be able to make some research in regarding on things which is speaking about legitimacy or something that do talks about being credible and paying. About KYC then it is really that already that inevitable since everything that do exist then government would really be always finding out ways for them to be able to regulated and able to make those places or platforms/companies to be that getting in line or abide rules and conditions. On the time that it would be asking out that verification then there's nothing you can do but to comply specially if you are on a situation on which they had locked or pending out your withdrawals or winning. KYC on the beginning? This isnt something that people would love to see on the time that they would first play on a site. This is why most of platforms now does only have that kind of TOS that they would be only asking out on some various circumstances.

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