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Question: Which problem will you choose to solve?
Problem of the rich. - 12 (27.9%)
Problem of the poor. - 31 (72.1%)
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September 20, 2023, 09:57:55 AM
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It seems like it is a natural law that humans need each other and cannot live alone. Therefore, don't be disappointed about being poor because we can work with rich people and learn how they work, so we have the opportunity to become rich too. and rich people must be able to respect poor people, because after all we need their energy to achieve income that continues to be created. therefore mutual respect will make everyone feel happy with their lives

It is more of a law for the life of every human being on this earth, because the attitude of mutual respect and respect for each other is part of the etiquette in life. So that the need for each other between rich people and poor people can happen well because basically rich people will not be able to do all the work by themselves if they don't rely on the labor of poor people or rely on the intelligence of poor people.

Poor people have the opportunity to become rich because they work for rich people with a very decent salary, but poor people who only work for their daily needs will take a long time to become rich because they do not have enough income to make savings in their lives. So in this case it is very clear that poor people really need rich people so that they can become rich one day, apart from their labor being needed by rich people who have more places to employ poor people.
The symbiotic relationship between the "haves" and the "have-nots" is a fundamental component of the modern economy. Isn't that a cycle? Rich people require skilled, often impoverished labor. Then, poor people look to the rich and their businesses for opportunity. Still, isn't it a little simplistic to say that the only way for the poor to become prosperous is to work for the wealthy? Modern economics are shifting. Online platforms, companies, and the digital era provide opportunities for people to move up the economic ladder without relying on traditional sources of income. Not all poor people work to sustain themselves. Many people invest in small businesses, education, and talents. Although this complex socioeconomic web is interdependent, it is not everyone's path to wealth

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September 20, 2023, 11:04:57 AM
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It seems like it is a natural law that humans need each other and cannot live alone. Therefore, don't be disappointed about being poor because we can work with rich people and learn how they work, so we have the opportunity to become rich too. and rich people must be able to respect poor people, because after all we need their energy to achieve income that continues to be created. therefore mutual respect will make everyone feel happy with their lives

It is more of a law for the life of every human being on this earth, because the attitude of mutual respect and respect for each other is part of the etiquette in life. So that the need for each other between rich people and poor people can happen well because basically rich people will not be able to do all the work by themselves if they don't rely on the labor of poor people or rely on the intelligence of poor people.

Poor people have the opportunity to become rich because they work for rich people with a very decent salary, but poor people who only work for their daily needs will take a long time to become rich because they do not have enough income to make savings in their lives. So in this case it is very clear that poor people really need rich people so that they can become rich one day, apart from their labor being needed by rich people who have more places to employ poor people.
The symbiotic relationship between the "haves" and the "have-nots" is a fundamental component of the modern economy. Isn't that a cycle? Rich people require skilled, often impoverished labor. Then, poor people look to the rich and their businesses for opportunity. Still, isn't it a little simplistic to say that the only way for the poor to become prosperous is to work for the wealthy? Modern economics are shifting. Online platforms, companies, and the digital era provide opportunities for people to move up the economic ladder without relying on traditional sources of income. Not all poor people work to sustain themselves. Many people invest in small businesses, education, and talents. Although this complex socioeconomic web is interdependent, it is not everyone's path to wealth
I agree with you. Times are changing and the more that the world develops and adapts innovative changes the more human beings find ways to survive without solely relying on each other (at least in a traditional aspect). Despite the already proven cycle of how the poor look at the rich for job opportunities to gain sources of income, other ways of earning have been introduced. Online platforms have given a stage for anyone to have a space to enrich their skills and knowledge that opens various pathways for both poor and rich to grab any opportunity to earn. Moreover, stories of the poor finding ways to reach an outstanding level of wealth without relying on their jobs under rich people (like building their own business, which they started from scratch) can be seen on news and various platforms more and more these days.

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September 20, 2023, 11:15:33 AM
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If you expect a lot of profit then fixing the problems of the rich is the most appropriate thing to do. But that doesn't mean we don't care about the problems experienced by poor people. Because our goal is to make more money so we can build a strong economy that can help the problems of the poor in the end.

We profit from the rich and we use the profits we get to help solve the problems that the poor have. Well, because at this time every problem solving must be supported by strong finances. So our main focus is to build strong finances before solving the problems of the grassroots. We can start by solving the problems of the rich and then move on to solving the problems of the poor.

Rich people manage their money properly and know whats the concept really needed to make their money grow and just makes a repeating cycle and also one of the very important thing that most of the people always didn't notice is when the rich people have a good circle of friend or networks they can easily exchange ideas, gain more connection and makes a collaboration so their networth makes more bigger and bigger, reason why better to choose the people around you if you want to succeed too in life.

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September 20, 2023, 11:22:14 AM
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Is just that without the poor the rich can't completely achieve their goal, because if you look at it this way like you said there would be massive job creation. With that you don't expect the rich after buying shares they should still be the ones to engage in both the laboring department, no. That's why I said without the poor the rich finds it hard to get to their goal.
Yes, that's right, both of them are actually tied to each other to achieve their goals. As you have said, they need each other even to achieve their respective goals. Because without complementing each other, the goals they want will be difficult to achieve. However, rich people and poor people have the same thing in common, namely that they both have big egos, because they both feel that their rights must come first, and in the end their faces are the same.

So back to the OP's thread, if I could choose who I should help first, I would choose to prioritize helping the poor. because I believe rich people will remain rich even without help, they will remain financially safe. This is very different from poor people, if they are not helped then their difficulties will increase. Whether we admit it or not, in many countries the number of poor people is definitely the largest. It could be said that there are more poor people than rich people. So by helping poor people, life in the country will also be safer and more stable because in some countries crime has increased due to the large number of poor people.
All humans need each other, in fact, no one can do it alone, between poor people and rich people there is a continuity of mutual assistance and it cannot be separated.
And regarding which one will be helped first, of course everyone will help solve problems for the people who need it, for rich people who have excess finances they can get out of problems by using the financial strength they have, while poor people can't, so it's clear that poor people are given priority.

If there's good human affection, rich people who will continue to be rich can help a lot in terms of providing aid for poor people,
I mean, the more they are getting richer, the better opportunity that they can provide.

But I hate to say about my observation, greed conquer humanity so instead of helping they will just continue to claim their fortune and forget
about helping.

Domino effect is better to achieve this kind of situation and you won't be left in between, as there are continuous movements.
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September 20, 2023, 10:59:48 PM
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If you expect a lot of profit then fixing the problems of the rich is the most appropriate thing to do. But that doesn't mean we don't care about the problems experienced by poor people. Because our goal is to make more money so we can build a strong economy that can help the problems of the poor in the end.

We profit from the rich and we use the profits we get to help solve the problems that the poor have. Well, because at this time every problem solving must be supported by strong finances. So our main focus is to build strong finances before solving the problems of the grassroots. We can start by solving the problems of the rich and then move on to solving the problems of the poor.

Rich people manage their money properly and know whats the concept really needed to make their money grow and just makes a repeating cycle and also one of the very important thing that most of the people always didn't notice is when the rich people have a good circle of friend or networks they can easily exchange ideas, gain more connection and makes a collaboration so their networth makes more bigger and bigger, reason why better to choose the people around you if you want to succeed too in life.
So true. if we often chat with those who already have financial freedom or with rich people. Sometimes we can always learn a lot from their views in terms of financial management and good business practices. And actually rich people are also very instrumental in helping the problems of poor people. For example, when the government is unable to provide jobs for poor people. So the rich people stood at the front and opened vacancies for many small people. In various types of work from the heaviest to the lightest. Depends on the education and skills possessed by the lower class people who apply. So becoming rich is a solution for us to help the problems of poor people.

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September 21, 2023, 03:48:11 AM
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So true. if we often chat with those who already have financial freedom or with rich people. Sometimes we can always learn a lot from their views in terms of financial management and good business practices. And actually rich people are also very instrumental in helping the problems of poor people. For example, when the government is unable to provide jobs for poor people. So the rich people stood at the front and opened vacancies for many small people. In various types of work from the heaviest to the lightest. Depends on the education and skills possessed by the lower class people who apply. So becoming rich is a solution for us to help the problems of poor people.
There are many things we can learn from hanging out with successful people, but this really depends on their personality. Some people who have achieved success will have very little time to sit with poor people and we can only see how that person manages their wealth them so that we can do as they do.
As financially successful people, of course they need other people to be able to work for them and this really helps the government in reducing unemployment around them. I really agree with you if we become rich as a solution to be able to help other people and don't be someone else rich who only use other people to work for him by not paying salaries according to what other people have done.

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So true. if we often chat with those who already have financial freedom or with rich people. Sometimes we can always learn a lot from their views in terms of financial management and good business practices. And actually rich people are also very instrumental in helping the problems of poor people. For example, when the government is unable to provide jobs for poor people. So the rich people stood at the front and opened vacancies for many small people. In various types of work from the heaviest to the lightest. Depends on the education and skills possessed by the lower class people who apply. So becoming rich is a solution for us to help the problems of poor people.
There are many things we can learn from hanging out with successful people, but this really depends on their personality. Some people who have achieved success will have very little time to sit with poor people and we can only see how that person manages their wealth them so that we can do as they do.
As financially successful people, of course they need other people to be able to work for them and this really helps the government in reducing unemployment around them. I really agree with you if we become rich as a solution to be able to help other people and don't be someone else rich who only use other people to work for him by not paying salaries according to what other people have done.
To be able to help other people, you don't need to be rich first, there are many things we can do to help other people physically and mentally.
Currently, many people join or join humanitarian volunteers and help with many things without needing to spend money, just with their energy and thoughts, because many people also need help, not financial, it can be help from energy or knowledge.

It is true that there are many positive things that we can get from rich people and one of the widespread benefits of hanging out with rich people is the opening of relationships that will be mutually beneficial.

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So true. if we often chat with those who already have financial freedom or with rich people. Sometimes we can always learn a lot from their views in terms of financial management and good business practices. And actually rich people are also very instrumental in helping the problems of poor people. For example, when the government is unable to provide jobs for poor people. So the rich people stood at the front and opened vacancies for many small people. In various types of work from the heaviest to the lightest. Depends on the education and skills possessed by the lower class people who apply. So becoming rich is a solution for us to help the problems of poor people.
There are many things we can learn from hanging out with successful people, but this really depends on their personality. Some people who have achieved success will have very little time to sit with poor people and we can only see how that person manages their wealth them so that we can do as they do.
As financially successful people, of course they need other people to be able to work for them and this really helps the government in reducing unemployment around them. I really agree with you if we become rich as a solution to be able to help other people and don't be someone else rich who only use other people to work for him by not paying salaries according to what other people have done.
To be able to help other people, you don't need to be rich first, there are many things we can do to help other people physically and mentally.
Currently, many people join or join humanitarian volunteers and help with many things without needing to spend money, just with their energy and thoughts, because many people also need help, not financial, it can be help from energy or knowledge.

It is true that there are many positive things that we can get from rich people and one of the widespread benefits of hanging out with rich people is the opening of relationships that will be mutually beneficial.
I also agree that to help other people we can do it in many ways. Either with knowledge or other services without having to become rich. But to help more people, other things are needed, such as strong finances. Like building schools in the interior where there are no school buildings. However, to help poor people we don't have to wait to become rich first. Well, we can help starting with the small things.
But we must also have high aspirations, namely to become rich and provide more jobs and pay the employees we have with wages that are more appropriate than those offered by other companies.

Talking to rich people can indeed grow our insight regarding financial management and can also increase our motivation to work harder. But talking to poor people has just as much benefit. Namely, we will get a very expensive insight into how they live a simple life but still smile and be happy. Honestly, I mostly see children on the streets who are very cheerful and they live like they are full of freedom. And the looks on their faces show signs that they are enjoying their lives sincerely even though they are full of financial shortcomings. In essence, we can learn to be grateful to poor people. And we can also learn to survive in difficult situations from them.
The point is that rich people and poor people have positive things that we can learn from. But in both there are also negative things that we should not imitate.

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September 23, 2023, 03:22:49 AM
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Both the rich and the poor have their own problems to solve. I have seen that if a rich person faces any problem, he can overcome that problem with the wealth he has. But a poor person can never overcome his own problems with money or wealth, because he has no money and wealth. Moreover, rich people have problems and poor people also have problems, basically rich people can deal with problems and their problems are easily solved. But poor people have to put in a lot of effort and trouble to deal with their problems while they stumble a lot in solving those problems. The ratio of problems between rich and poor is the same but rich people can easily deal with the problem, but it is different for the poor poor which they can easily do and have to face many kinds of dangers to deal with the problem.

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The rich and the poor all have their own basic problems that they personally try to solve in order to defend them. Most of the problems faced by the rich are their wealth and in various commercial fields they face many kinds of problems, and they need a lot of money to solve them, and they can solve them easily. But when a poor person faces a problem, it takes a long time to overcome it. But whether a person is rich or poor, their problem must require crime, and if they do not commit crime, they are never in trouble, so I cannot take sides without good judgment. I think that a rich man can solve his problem easily, but a poor man can never solve his problem easily, but after going through a lot of trouble he can solve his problem.

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I came across this tweet, so the reference is the username. I thought it was a topic worth bringing up for discussion to see the choice that will be made by forum members. This topic is about solving problems as a service you render to make a living. Which of the problems will you prefer to solve as a service you render? the problems of the poor? or the problems of the rich? (support your choice with a reason)

I posted this here because it relates to choices we make concerning how we want our finance to be, if this is a wrong place and the topic fits better in "politics and society", I will be happy to move it there.

Even though many poor people have different problems, there are some who have financial difficulties that you can help with jobs or other work that can be able to provide food to there table, because if you can't help them with jobs or other work that can be able to provide them with food to their table, then you won't be able to satisfy their needs.If that is difficult, there is no way we can be able to solve a poor situation. In fact, some people can see you as an enemy for not providing the solution to them.

According to my point of view, the only way to satisfy many poor individuals is to provide for their basic needs, such as providing for a community's lack of water, if someone with money is able to do so.
I will choose to help the poor. The truth is there's nothing wrong with being wealthy but a rich man sees money as an opportunity while the poor see it as something to be earned. Helping the poor and needy people is crucial to build the society, for example if every rich individual can help the poor with job opportunity and providing their needs I don't think poverty rate will be high in our society. And also I don't think a rich man will ask for money, rather a rich man will ask for something precious and valuable maybe an external life or beyond and nobody can afford something beyond
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I will choose to help the poor. The truth is there's nothing wrong with being wealthy but a rich man sees money as an opportunity while the poor see it as something to be earned. Helping the poor and needy people is crucial to build the society, for example if every rich individual can help the poor with job opportunity and providing their needs I don't think poverty rate will be high in our society. And also I don't think a rich man will ask for money, rather a rich man will ask for something precious and valuable maybe an external life or beyond and nobody can afford something beyond

Assistance must be aimed at people who need it and in this case it is poor people because most poor people always have problems with their finances and economy in life. Meanwhile, rich people are people who don't have any problems with that except for their own thoughts, who may have to keep thinking about how to maintain the assets they have well enough and also think about being able to continue running the business they have built during their lifetime.

It is true that if all rich people were willing to provide job vacancies for poor people in this world, there would not be more people in trouble in this world even though those who have worked would not immediately become rich. But at least they can continue to be independent with income from their work, but every rich person who wants to employ poor people in the company or factory they own will always make special criteria for each person. So not all poor people can be helped by this when recruiting employees for companies or factories owned by rich people.
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if it concerns rich and poor I think it would be a long way of saying we are humane if we help poor people. even if someone is rich in trouble. what did they experience? Usually rich people have difficulties that are not of general concern and of course they have to look for experts. such as if they are suffering from an illness. different from poor people who most people should be able to help. I'm sure if we help them just $1 it will be very beneficial for them. at least it allows them to eat at that time.

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September 25, 2023, 11:08:20 AM
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if it concerns rich and poor I think it would be a long way of saying we are humane if we help poor people. even if someone is rich in trouble. what did they experience? Usually rich people have difficulties that are not of general concern and of course they have to look for experts. such as if they are suffering from an illness. different from poor people who most people should be able to help. I'm sure if we help them just $1 it will be very beneficial for them. at least it allows them to eat at that time.

I think helping doesn't discriminate whether the person is rich or poor. As long as you can help, that is what we will provide. Because there are times when the poor help rich people they don't know, or even the middle class, or even the poor.

The same is true of other rich people; there are those who are helped who are poor people, and they are also rich in the state of our country. Usually the rich help because they have a lot of money; the poor often help based on their skills and unique possessions that rich people don't have.



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I will choose to help the poor. The truth is there's nothing wrong with being wealthy but a rich man sees money as an opportunity while the poor see it as something to be earned. Helping the poor and needy people is crucial to build the society, for example if every rich individual can help the poor with job opportunity and providing their needs I don't think poverty rate will be high in our society. And also I don't think a rich man will ask for money, rather a rich man will ask for something precious and valuable maybe an external life or beyond and nobody can afford something beyond
There are many rich people in our society but not all of them are interested in helping the poor people because of which the poor people in our society are facing many problems. If the rich people in our society are with the poor people then our society will improve a lot in a very short time. And  No poor people will stay in our society. We can help the poor people in our society if we want to, but it requires the help of all of us.

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September 26, 2023, 05:52:21 PM
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If you expect a lot of profit then fixing the problems of the rich is the most appropriate thing to do. But that doesn't mean we don't care about the problems experienced by poor people. Because our goal is to make more money so we can build a strong economy that can help the problems of the poor in the end.

We profit from the rich and we use the profits we get to help solve the problems that the poor have. Well, because at this time every problem solving must be supported by strong finances. So our main focus is to build strong finances before solving the problems of the grassroots. We can start by solving the problems of the rich and then move on to solving the problems of the poor.

Rich people manage their money properly and know whats the concept really needed to make their money grow and just makes a repeating cycle and also one of the very important thing that most of the people always didn't notice is when the rich people have a good circle of friend or networks they can easily exchange ideas, gain more connection and makes a collaboration so their networth makes more bigger and bigger, reason why better to choose the people around you if you want to succeed too in life.
So true. if we often chat with those who already have financial freedom or with rich people. Sometimes we can always learn a lot from their views in terms of financial management and good business practices. And actually rich people are also very instrumental in helping the problems of poor people. For example, when the government is unable to provide jobs for poor people. So the rich people stood at the front and opened vacancies for many small people. In various types of work from the heaviest to the lightest. Depends on the education and skills possessed by the lower class people who apply. So becoming rich is a solution for us to help the problems of poor people.
Government of a country is not able to give a job to an unemployed person and they must complete the recruitment process within the specified rules. Moreover, it is not possible to hire additional manpower in favor of the government. But a rich man can create any employment opportunity for a poor man if he wants which is not always possible by the Government. Poor people benefit from those who are rich. The rich and the poor complement each other but the poor are able to find employment because of the existence of the rich.
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September 26, 2023, 08:07:50 PM
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Solving the problem of one rich person can save thousands of jobs so it depends on who is that rich person and what is their problem.

If you see more replies that say to solve the problems of more poor people then its not a wonder because that is the right thing from an ethical Point of View.

You have made your point or view from the first sentence so there is no need to supporting the poor again. But as for me, I will solve the problems of the poor. Because if I solve the problems of the poor I will have freedom to move and the request from them will reduce, but if I solve the already rich people problem then I have not solve any problem in the world. I am in this world to solve the problem of the poor and not the rich. The rich have money to solve their problem so if I have money to solve problem, it is the poor.

According to a philosopher, Machiavelli, a leader that support and solve the problems of the poor is the true leader and not the one who support the oppressive Oligarchy. The leader that support the poor will have the freedom to do things than the leader that support the rich.   









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September 27, 2023, 11:32:59 AM
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I know that most people will rush towards solving problems for the poor people,  there are already so many persons and agencies  rendering help in that category. I will go towards solving problems for the rich, many persons do not bother to ask how these guys are faring, everyone feels they have money so they don't have any issue, lending a solution to a rich man will not only solve his problem but also make  me an asset. So I'll solve problems  for rich folks anytime any day

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September 27, 2023, 12:27:35 PM
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If you expect a lot of profit then fixing the problems of the rich is the most appropriate thing to do. But that doesn't mean we don't care about the problems experienced by poor people. Because our goal is to make more money so we can build a strong economy that can help the problems of the poor in the end.

We profit from the rich and we use the profits we get to help solve the problems that the poor have. Well, because at this time every problem solving must be supported by strong finances. So our main focus is to build strong finances before solving the problems of the grassroots. We can start by solving the problems of the rich and then move on to solving the problems of the poor.

Rich people manage their money properly and know whats the concept really needed to make their money grow and just makes a repeating cycle and also one of the very important thing that most of the people always didn't notice is when the rich people have a good circle of friend or networks they can easily exchange ideas, gain more connection and makes a collaboration so their networth makes more bigger and bigger, reason why better to choose the people around you if you want to succeed too in life.
So true. if we often chat with those who already have financial freedom or with rich people. Sometimes we can always learn a lot from their views in terms of financial management and good business practices. And actually rich people are also very instrumental in helping the problems of poor people. For example, when the government is unable to provide jobs for poor people. So the rich people stood at the front and opened vacancies for many small people. In various types of work from the heaviest to the lightest. Depends on the education and skills possessed by the lower class people who apply. So becoming rich is a solution for us to help the problems of poor people.
Government of a country is not able to give a job to an unemployed person and they must complete the recruitment process within the specified rules. Moreover, it is not possible to hire additional manpower in favor of the government. But a rich man can create any employment opportunity for a poor man if he wants which is not always possible by the Government. Poor people benefit from those who are rich. The rich and the poor complement each other but the poor are able to find employment because of the existence of the rich.
Yes, it's true that everything works quite harmoniously and complements each other. Because basically rich people need services from poor people's work and poor people also need wages by working for rich people. The government and the rich also work well together in this regard. Because to establish a company, government permission is required. And another thing is that rich people pay quite high taxes to the government. And the tax money is also useful for increasing state income to develop the country to become more advanced. and also to help people who need financial assistance. And I am happy because in my country, when difficulties occur, the government always provides assistance to the people. Even though it's not evenly distributed, I appreciate the effort.

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September 27, 2023, 03:29:03 PM
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I know that most people will rush towards solving problems for the poor people,  there are already so many persons and agencies  rendering help in that category. I will go towards solving problems for the rich, many persons do not bother to ask how these guys are faring, everyone feels they have money so they don't have any issue, lending a solution to a rich man will not only solve his problem but also make  me an asset. So I'll solve problems  for rich folks anytime any day
Good point here. People often think that being rich means having the best side of everything. What we tend to forget is that there are negative things that comes with bring rich like the responsibility that comes with it, how people seem to always watch your every move and decisions to judge you if you do something that doesn't fit their standards and expectations, and how sometimes it is hard to show emotions because people expect you to be cold and strong. Hence, I understand what you meant by helping the rich who needs help from things we often forget they might be dealing with just because they have the money.

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