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September 05, 2023, 06:34:57 AM
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

The answer to your question is as simple as a YES, Key players in the sports industry does affect the odd bookies place on a team compared to another team with no key player, For example, when Messi or Ronaldo will be playing alongside other players as team in a match, it is already evident that the chances of such team winning that match is very high due to the presence of Messi, or Ronaldo, so, we dont expect bookies to place a high odds on such team since its expected that majority of the bets coming in will be going towards that team, so what i think bookies do or will do is to make the odds of that team not so attractive to bettors, and make the odds of the opposite or counterparty team more attractive to bettors, so as to discourage one sided bets.
Odds are calculated based on a number of factors and players' ability and standing is some of the major factor to consider when sport bets want to calculate their odds, and Clubs with top players are giving lower odds since their chances 0f winning the match is high compared to the chances of team with weak players.

Just as saying does club standing affect the odds, the answer to this also is yes, what is mostly used to allocate odds to clubs is the ability of the team to win and players are one of the agents of match-winning to clubs.
Yeah , exactly the point I was trying to make in my comment above, so , it can be simply said that, the higher the chances of a club winning a match, the lower the odds bookies allocate to such club, and the more the club is receiving bets from bettors, the lower the odds is dropping, and the higher the odds of the other club with lower chances of winning the match increases ..

But again , how the bookie loses is if at the end of the match, the club which was expected to loss the match end up winning, and they have to pay gamblers who bet on that club high amount of money due to the high odds, though I still won't consider this a total loss since they get to make the money back from bets received from the losing side/club .

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September 05, 2023, 06:46:10 AM
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The answer to your question is as simple as a YES, Key players in the sports industry does affect the odd bookies place on a team compared to another team with no key player, For example, when Messi or Ronaldo will be playing alongside other players as team in a match, it is already evident that the chances of such team winning that match is very high due to the presence of Messi, or Ronaldo, so, we dont expect bookies to place a high odds on such team since its expected that majority of the bets coming in will be going towards that team, so what i think bookies do or will do is to make the odds of that team not so attractive to bettors, and make the odds of the opposite or counterparty team more attractive to bettors, so as to discourage one sided bets.
Odds are calculated based on a number of factors and players' ability and standing is some of the major factor to consider when sport bets want to calculate their odds, and Clubs with top players are giving lower odds since their chances 0f winning the match is high compared to the chances of team with weak players.

Just as saying does club standing affect the odds, the answer to this also is yes, what is mostly used to allocate odds to clubs is the ability of the team to win and players are one of the agents of match-winning to clubs.
It is true that a team with top players can increase their chances of winning more compared to a team that is only filled with weak players but all of this cannot be separated from the performance of the coach who directs the players to be able to give their game to the maximum and also the contribution of other players to help the players top can show perfect playing skills.
Player balance is really needed by a football team to be the strongest and win every game there is after all what is it for having one or two top players but other players cannot follow or keep up with the games of the top players.

From here it is true if you say that players are the main key to success in a competitive team it's just that as much as possible don't rely too much on top players but also maximize other players to be able to give the best for team.

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September 05, 2023, 07:40:58 AM
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These star players can also break the opponent's focus, so they will be confused about who they should guard when playing on the field. They might lose control because having a star player could make the coach's strategy fall apart, and that would be an opportunity for his team to counterattack quickly. The coach must have prepared the right strategy to beat the opposing team so that his team can win and advance to the next round. The presence of star players can increase the enthusiasm of other players so that the match will become even more interesting.
There are many athlete can't play as good as they were when they face the star player, they're either too aggressive or making unnecessary mistake. This is because they're don't have a good mentality. For the star players' teammates, they will put a lot respect and try to play as good as possible, also giving many chance to the star players. See, there are many factors when the star players are playing.

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September 05, 2023, 02:16:30 PM
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What is clear is that star players on the field will be a very important factor in football and can cause problems for the opposing team. Apart from that, if a team has a very good star player, the opposing team will be reluctant and very careful in playing.
And star players can affect the opponent's mentality if the coach plays them at the right time and has a good strategy, so in my opinion star players greatly influence the final outcome of the match. And what you have to remember is that even if star players don't score goals, star players will be able to provide good assists or be part of the strategy.
That is the influence of a star player in a team who can provide psychological warfare against opposing players and may also be able to suppress the opposing team's play so that they do not have the opportunity to attack. With these star players, a team can use its best performance to attack, find gaps in its defense, and penetrate the defense to get one or several goals. But when the opposing team doesn't care about the presence of star players and still tries to put out their best performance to fight back, maybe they can attack and put pressure on the team, and that has often happened where the opposing team has the mental strength to be able to survive the team's attacks. And it will be a very interesting match to watch, especially if we place a bet.

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There are many athlete can't play as good as they were when they face the star player, they're either too aggressive or making unnecessary mistake. This is because they're don't have a good mentality. For the star players' teammates, they will put a lot respect and try to play as good as possible, also giving many chance to the star players. See, there are many factors when the star players are playing.
It cannot be denied because their mentality has fallen when dealing with star players, and makes them unable to get their performance out. The coach must be aware of this so that he may have to change his strategy in dealing with pressure from star players. The difference is clear, but if there are players who are not affected by the influence of star players, it will be a good capital to get up and turn to press the team. The presence of star players can provide added value to a team so that they can maintain their enthusiasm and achieve victory. And those of us who place bets can also win.

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September 05, 2023, 04:23:05 PM
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I think yes, since they are one the factors for a team to win, it just meant that their attendance affect odds of the match. Moreover, they gameplay and the list you have provided also affects the odds. Why? They are players – they have an impact to the odd's calculation, and if you will think of the game's odds base from players, you should also have to know if they are star player or not. Surely, they increase the odds of winning of the team that they are in.
There is no doubt that players have hard there high influence on the odds allocation and just like I said in my previous comment,  the quality of players determines the odds allocation for the club in question and that also influences the outcome of the team resulting in the game.

There is no way, that if Manchester United is playing a bigger club with high-quality players like Manchester City,  the odds must always be in favour of the bigger club which in this case is Manchester City,  since they have better quality players.
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September 05, 2023, 05:11:28 PM
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Yes they do and mostly in goal scoring. Star players are the most skillful players in the pitch so anything happens to them have effect in the team and the game at last. It is not good to put them in the full game because straight playing need strength so it is good for them to play half of the game so that they would have strength to run. Star players disappoint gamblers in most time in goal scoring, they missed important goal to cut odds, especially penalties. I have seen Messi missed a penalty shootout. If a star player was doing well in the first half it is good for him to be changed and and it is good for them to play first half than second half of the game.

In any odd the main thing is to win so if the star players are not involved and the other players are doing well then there is nothing to worry about.









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Yea, I do agree that star players influence game odds, like I said in my first comment, but I think that they should rather be placed in the second half before football, which is usually tougher during the second half. I think that if star players are added during the second half, they can still do better because even by then, the opposite team players may have felt tired. I don't know if it's just rumors or not, but I have heard before that some times most of those big casinos usually bribe some club or those star players so that they will end up disappointing gamblers, just like you said that start players also disappoint gamblers. I agree with you.

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Yea, I do agree that star players influence game odds, like I said in my first comment, but I think that they should rather be placed in the second half before football, which is usually tougher during the second half. I think that if star players are added during the second half, they can still do better because even by then, the opposite team players may have felt tired. I don't know if it's just rumors or not, but I have heard before that some times most of those big casinos usually bribe some club or those star players so that they will end up disappointing gamblers, just like you said that start players also disappoint gamblers. I agree with you.
That is an interesting take and it makes sense as if star players have the advantage over almost any other player then they will have a even bigger advantage if they compete against adversaries that are tired, however I think this is mostly about the fans and the money, can you imagine how much fans will protest if Messi was on the bench for half of the game? Soccer besides being a competition is also a spectacle and a business, and star players are the ones that sell a great deal of tickets and jerseys, so they need to be on the field for as long as possible to justify their high salaries.
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September 07, 2023, 08:11:41 PM
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I think they are definitely the most important thing that could be the case, it should be important and we should be caring about the fact that they are involved or not. Like let's say PSG plays a match, if Mbappe plays and if he does not play there are situations that are different on the long run.

I think it should be important, we should be caring about it and we should see different odds between those two, which means that superstars are important. I care about that because it should be really important difference, otherwise why are they getting paid that much money if they are not going to make a difference in the end? I think it should be important and it should be something that would be cared about in the end.

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September 07, 2023, 08:37:56 PM
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

There are famous names in football; they affect the game in a variety of approaches because their opponents tend to instill nervousness in them; at the end of the day, they either end up on the losing or winning side; either of the aforementioned must be triggered. In recognition, your question is straightforward, it's simply a YES. For instance, Leo Messi and Paris Saint-Germain's opponents will suffer far more even if they win; such a triumph is seen as the slightest chance of winning or a close escape. They dare not messed around with elite clubs with incredible players.

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September 07, 2023, 08:53:22 PM
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it certainly affects the trend of the game but it will not affect the outcome of a match. it remains to be determined how the final outcome agreement determines a winner from the gamblers. If there are stars mentioned in gambling, it will make this site even more popular, which is why several platforms always bring stars who have lots of fans.

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September 08, 2023, 07:00:32 PM
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Star players have the impact over the odds as well as on the performance of the team. Just think of the Saudi Arabia Pro League teams, once after the deal of Al-Nassr team with Ronaldo the team odds have varied. The strategy varies based on the presence of star players, so will be the odds. When a star player is in a match, he'll be in focus much compared to the rest of the players. This means the star player's contribution is really valuable to the team and much expected one.
It's pretty obvious, the quality of the game affects the odds, and the quality of players in a team will make the odds of them winning higher and the odds for bettors lower because the team will have a higher chance of winning and when there is a high probability of you winning a bet in gambling, you are not offered high odds. So odds of a match or the odds of a particular team definitely depend on the quality of players they have and we all know the quality that star players bring to a team.

As you mentioned, a lot of star players have been moving from Europe to the Middle East lately, and they have been taking quality from one region to another because we can clearly see how the quality of football has shifted in the Middle East and the region has become so popular among football fans all around the world all of a sudden.

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September 08, 2023, 07:22:19 PM
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Star players can 100% have a significant impact on the odds of a football game bet. Their presence or absence can influence the overall performance and outcomes of the game. Bookies and betting experts often consider the influence of star players when setting odds.

If a star player is injured or suspended the odds may change to reflect the team's potential decline in performance. On the other hand if a star player is in excellent form odds may favour their team due to the increased likelihood of success.

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September 08, 2023, 09:22:20 PM
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

There are famous names in football; they affect the game in a variety of approaches because their opponents tend to instill nervousness in them; at the end of the day, they either end up on the losing or winning side; either of the aforementioned must be triggered. In recognition, your question is straightforward, it's simply a YES. For instance, Leo Messi and Paris Saint-Germain's opponents will suffer far more even if they win; such a triumph is seen as the slightest chance of winning or a close escape. They dare not messed around with elite clubs with incredible players.
Star players will not only make the opponent nervous mentally, but also indeed these star players have very reliable talent, always have a way to score so that if an opposing club plays a big club that has star players in it, they will always concede and lose the match.

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September 08, 2023, 09:30:17 PM
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

It depends on the match and the current situation on ground, if it's a live match as such in sport bettings, it may affect the odd if a key star player retires from the pitch and replaced by ordinary player, but games sometimes aren't as we expect, things may actually turn around and the ordinary player that have less concentration on him may later win or score a goal, I don't think they do that often i changing the odds because of players sice matches are unpredictable and it's more of a team work than individual efforts.

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September 09, 2023, 10:07:26 PM
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

It depends on the match and the current situation on ground, if it's a live match as such in sport bettings, it may affect the odd if a key star player retires from the pitch and replaced by ordinary player, but games sometimes aren't as we expect, things may actually turn around and the ordinary player that have less concentration on him may later win or score a goal, I don't think they do that often i changing the odds because of players sice matches are unpredictable and it's more of a team work than individual efforts.

Well, as I have always said, the players are the Important factor for every game, in the case of football I think I have already stated it many times, in the case of PSG it is very valid that the star players they had were one of the greats The press continued until last season, which I personally saw as very promising, so and I think the Important thing here is that many things can be Done , in fact many bettors were quite losers, because they spent a lot of money losing, especially everything in the UCL, because it cannot be confirmed that with so many such good players, they could not win, nor did they win, now PSG has left its main stars like Messi and Neymar and now they are left without them, that in the teams who are doing very well, then bad decisions, bad technical directors who have had things happen that should not happen, it is difficult to be like that in these Cases.

Now we can see that some teams can see themselves as the best because they have a couple of stars and yes, they can do it, but the effectiveness is not in their players, I think it is in their technical directors, this is only in the case of fútbol because it is Obvious that many have been improving their football as more star players arrive, if we go to a more general level, we have the Norwegian team that has a Haaland but cannot yet go to a World Cup, then In view of these things they can be seen as something that they can have and do not use as it is, just as in Argentina they have a Messi who still gives benefits to them, even when he has said that he wants to leave the national team, I think that the The national team loves Messi a lot, so you can guess that seven Types of Stars are very Necessary, and in fact in the CONMEBOL semi-finals thanks to Messi they were able to win, for a goal he made from a free kick , an Impressive goal , something that left many there Astonished , so for me it has a lot to do with a Star.

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September 09, 2023, 10:51:22 PM
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Let's think of it this way;
If Al Nassr didn't have Mane and Ronaldo, they wouldn't be almost heavy favorites in every match, right?
The fact that Ronaldo and Mane's names are in the starting XI every game shows that Al Nassr are heavy odds-on favorites against their opponents, which could indicate that Al Nassr can score at least 2-3 goals every game. Looking at their last games, Al Nassr have managed to score 4 goals or more, almost all of them scored by Mane and Ronaldo.

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September 10, 2023, 05:43:06 AM
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Star players will not only make the opponent nervous mentally, but also indeed these star players have very reliable talent, always have a way to score so that if an opposing club plays a big club that has star players in it, they will always concede and lose the match.
That is what makes star players so frightening for defensive players, they could play perfectly during the whole match but as soon as they make a mistake the start player will take advantage of that mistake and score, while a player that is just good may never be able to even take advantage of the mistake and even if they do they may not score, making star players incredibly dangerous, and this is why casinos acknowledge this fact and change the odds when they are in or out of the field.
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September 10, 2023, 07:59:37 AM
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Let's think of it this way;
If Al Nassr didn't have Mane and Ronaldo, they wouldn't be almost heavy favorites in every match, right?
The fact that Ronaldo and Mane's names are in the starting XI every game shows that Al Nassr are heavy odds-on favorites against their opponents, which could indicate that Al Nassr can score at least 2-3 goals every game. Looking at their last games, Al Nassr have managed to score 4 goals or more, almost all of them scored by Mane and Ronaldo.

Agreed. It's not really that hard to answer which made me laugh when the topic was raised. It's a no-brainer unless someone is not really that keen on sports gambling. The fact that these superstars are paid heavily means they are well-proven to players and they matter a lot for a team to win. The same thing when they are also injured as it will obviously hurt their team's chances of winning, unlike their other teammates who have a lesser impact on their team.

That is why it is important for teams to sign star players when they have the chance because they can bring their plays to higher levels.

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September 10, 2023, 08:36:26 AM
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Of course they affect the result of a game. Star players can win the game when they are motivated enough but sometimes they don’t perform well becsuse they get angry at something and then it costs them the game… So if a team has star player(s) then it is the coach’s responsibility to keep these players happy. Maybe give them some privileges but overdoing it will also create a lot of problems so it needs to be fine tuned. Look at C. Ronaldo, he is still winning cups for his team. It means he is happy.
Star player or not, each can affect the odds of a game in either in a positive or in a negative way. Being motivated shouldn't be subjective when it comes to important games because the career of our team is at risk here. So each player should always try their best each time they step up in the field.

Coach on the other hand, also plays a big role for the teams success but it's normal for a coach to get angry about it's players. It doesn't mean they are a bad guy in real life. It's only a way to discipline its players if they have done something inappropriate. When we win, most of the times we are happy but some are also not for some reasons.

That's true, each player can affect the result but star players are stars for a reason. They sometimes do the very near-impossible stuff. See the bicycle kick of Ibrahimovic when he scored against England while he was playing for the Swedish national football team. Who would have thought that was coming? Nobody's seen it coming. Out of the blue, he run to the ball and did that mega-bicycle kick and you know what? It did go in. From 30 fucking yards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM_5tJncHww

Who teh fuck can do that other than Ibra?

There are many games like that where a star player just carries the team and brings in victory.

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