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August 24, 2023, 11:42:06 AM
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This is how every sports betting shop should operate, in my own opinion. It's more about the mental well-being of the client than about the revenue accrued by the business. The screenshot I am going to share is from a Twitter user who shared his story of how a betting shop operator stopped him from betting after he noticed that he was placing bets on games every day for one week. The bet operator suspected that he was addicted to gambling. This is very commendable. from the bet operator who is educated on the symptoms of gambling addiction. If you were in the narrator's shoes, would you take a break from gambling despite knowing that you are not addicted, or would you patronize another betting shop?




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August 24, 2023, 11:47:46 AM
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There might be a few bookies who would do that, but it isn't ideal for many. The issue at hand is that bookies or sports betting agents are aiming for higher profitability. This implies that the more bets they attract, the more money they stand to gain. In my opinion, the phrase "gamble responsibly" should be sufficient to caution bettors, and if they choose to disregard it, the consequences are theirs to bear.

I don't oppose shops advising individuals to quit gambling if they identify someone displaying signs of addiction. However, what if they encounter a multitude of gamblers who are already ensnared by addiction? Will their sole responsibility then be to tell these people to cease their activities?
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August 24, 2023, 11:50:03 AM
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This is just a betting shop, there are other ways people can bet. No one will restrict anyone to be gambling online. What I am trying to say is that betting shop operator may be helpful for some gamblers, but not for anyone that gambles online. Gamblers should discipline themselves and gamble responsibly.

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It was betting agent that stopped the gambler, not a bookmaker directly. According to what I know, bookmaker are directly interacting with gamblers online and this can not be helpful for gamblers than to be using little amount of money and to gamble responsibly.

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August 24, 2023, 11:58:15 AM
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I'll probably be the only one to say this but I think that was kind of an early stoppage. I mean if the player was strict and steady with his bankroll then I don't see any problem. I can compare this to those people buying one lottery ticket on a daily basis. If the player suddenly starts increasing his bets then that's probably the time to approach him.

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August 24, 2023, 12:13:24 PM
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I'll probably be the only one to say this but I think that was kind of an early stoppage. I mean if the player was strict and steady with his bankroll then I don't see any problem. I can compare this to those people buying one lottery ticket on a daily basis. If the player suddenly starts increasing his bets then that's probably the time to approach him.
It is a betting shop operator. Most people that come to bet with him are likely from the same street where is gambling shop is. He will likely know some of the people that comes and bet with him and he will know if someone among them is getting addicted. But in the country that I am, there is nothing like that even if you use all your life to bet, that is your own cup of tea.

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August 24, 2023, 12:23:40 PM
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I am not invalidating the action of the sport betting shop's manager but I feel like this probably has something to do UK's regulation on gambling, from what I have read on articles, UK is very strict with their regulation in order to protect gamblers from gambling addiction/financial loss. I wouldn't be surprised if one of their regulation is that they require gambling shops to spot gamblers that shows signs of gambling addiction and perform preventive measure, just like what the manager of the sport betting shop did.

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August 24, 2023, 01:10:06 PM
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Do you really think this is what happened? For me, it's like the Twitter user is promoting the shop with a made-up story just like every social media influencer does to make money for their living. Tongue

I don't get how a casino employee can stop you from gambling there because he feels you are addicted.

If it actually happened the casino or the shop would be sued for denying an individual right and its legally possible really if a shop thinks they should not come there every day then they should have a rule stating that.

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August 24, 2023, 01:14:50 PM
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If you were in the narrator's shoes, would you take a break from gambling despite knowing that you are not addicted, or would you patronize another betting shop?

Yes, I will take a break since the manager already told me so or else there’s other betting shop that I can place my bet. Consistency imho is not an immediate addiction especially on this case which the money amount involved is consistently small. I will only consider this as an addiction if he is placing an increasing amount of bet per day.

This kind of protocol for betting shop on UK is normal(I guess) because they have a very strict gambling regulatory board to watch all businesses related to gambling and maintain welfare to their citizens. They also proposing a bet limitation amount per player IIRC just to control addiction.

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August 24, 2023, 01:24:55 PM
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I am following this same guy on Twitter and I also saw this tweet, and going through the comment section of the tweet, we can see people commenting that if it was in a certain country(don't wanna mention names here) the manager will call up to tell you he misses you if they do not see you for just one day  Grin Grin.

Anyways, I don't think it's about country though, I think this is more about personality, that is, being educated and responsible, business is not all about making money all the time, it is also about making sure our customers are mentally and emotionally healthy at all time.
Kudos to the manager, he deserved a reward for looking after a customer in such a manner.

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August 24, 2023, 02:10:57 PM
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If you were in the narrator's shoes, would you take a break from gambling despite knowing that you are not addicted, or would you patronize another betting shop?

Yes, I will take a break since the manager already told me so or else there’s other betting shop that I can place my bet. Consistency imho is not an immediate addiction especially on this case which the money amount involved is consistently small. I will only consider this as an addiction if he is placing an increasing amount of bet per day.

This kind of protocol for betting shop on UK is normal(I guess) because they have a very strict gambling regulatory board to watch all businesses related to gambling and maintain welfare to their citizens. They also proposing a bet limitation amount per player IIRC just to control addiction.
I agree with you, because it is in the best interests of all gamblers. And if someone from the betting shop operators noticed, it was probably meant to warn gamblers that gamblers need to exercise self-control when losing streaks continue. And it would be even better if there were betting shops giving good advice or advice to excessive gamblers before resting them.
And I think it's for the good of the gamblers, or maybe the betting shop doesn't want to be blamed when many gamblers are addicted because they often bet at the shop.
and if it was me i would also quit and if i didn't feel addicted i would find another betting shop.

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I don’t see many gambling shop doing this in my locality, the best the can do is to award you with a gift so as to keep you from going to other shops. If you look at it it’s a business and the main aim of them opening their shop is to make profit and for them to be able to do that they need people to patronize them and that will make them feel that if they tell any of their customers that their behaviors is becoming unusual that will discourage them from coming to their shop.

But in the case the op presented, I feel they did the right but only if they delivered the message to the man in a very nice manager and not rudely and according to what the man wrote I don’t think he’ll be leaving that shop anytime soon since they have his health at heart and are not just interested in their profits alone.

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However it's impossible if you think there's an online casino will act like this because almost all online casinos are using weak license, some of them didn't even have license. They only have self exclusion feature that the gambler need to click and proceed it, not an automatic like the gambler will not able gamble after spend $5,000 in a week etc.

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I just found out that there is an operator who watches his visitors so that he knows which people are addicted to gambling after that tells him, is this every traditional gambling has the same thing in every country?

What I know is that operators allow it because the more visitors the happier they are, this cannot be controlled even though they have spent their money in a week to bet and the operators usually allow it.

I believe this is the case for gambling shops but there is nothing like this for online casinos.

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It is somehow very suspicious when in fact casinos do not mind whether a gambler shows signs of symptoms. They are after profit, except if they don't profit from him, however.

He may have to expect the operator to make him stop especially if he wins every time and they can request this personally after all it's an offline operator. $10 is just not worth it for them which they often lose while him winning consistently.


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Perhaps I'll stop gambling while evaluating what I've done in the previous few days. And if I had a gambling addiction, as the operator said, I would really seek help from the people around me and ask them to help me. But if I only play gambling, for example, once a day and play gambling every day for a week, it seems that this could be a sign that I have started to get addicted to gambling, and I must stop before it's too late.

And I'm very grateful for the warning from the operator reminding me to stop gambling for a while. And we should have followed his advice instead of looking for another betting shop that would not have warned us. It was an unwise decision because we should have been able to rest for a while after playing gambling for a week. We can gamble again after the rest period and adjust the gambling schedule so we don't get a warning from the operator.
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Might be a good call by that manager but I think saying not to come again is likely displeases that guy for sure. I think an easy approach would have been more appropriate for the guy, I mean maybe the guy can handle himself already and he take responsibility in it.

They just have different perspective but I think the manager just want to help in case he's really addicted already and that thing is commendable.
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I think it all depend on the principles of each gambler if this happens to myself and realize that if I get a little addicted I will definitely stop my gambling and disappear from gambling in a while.
But if we talk about all gambler, I am sure he will move to other gambling places to keep betting because problems like this will only be thought of and just ignored because seeing from his activities he is like an addiction and usually addicts always ignore things like that.

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August 24, 2023, 04:13:07 PM
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This is how every sports betting shop should operate, in my own opinion. It's more about the mental well-being of the client than about the revenue accrued by the business. The screenshot I am going to share is from a Twitter user who shared his story of how a betting shop operator stopped him from betting after he noticed that he was placing bets on games every day for one week. The bet operator suspected that he was addicted to gambling. This is very commendable. from the bet operator who is educated on the symptoms of gambling addiction. If you were in the narrator's shoes, would you take a break from gambling despite knowing that you are not addicted, or would you patronize another betting shop?





The reason can be anything. May be the manager didn't actually own the shop and was just doing his job.
He might be concerned about that person. If I were in the narrator's shoes I would make him understand that I am not addicted and I gamble on budget.
Even then if they wouldn't allow me in then I would probably stop gambling there unless find a better place and if not then take a week's break and then continue.

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August 24, 2023, 05:43:35 PM
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...how a betting shop operator stopped him from betting after he noticed that he was placing bets on games every day for one week. The bet operator suspected that he was addicted to gambling. This is very commendable. from the bet operator who is educated on the symptoms of gambling addiction.
The bet operator is not a money conscious person who is just focused on making profit from anyone who comes to gamble, that is why he was able to caution the subject. He may also have seen the effects that addiction to gambling can have and what it can cause since that is where he works, maybe that is why he has taken it as a personal duty to help as much gamblers who come to gamble in is place not to get addicted.

would you take a break from gambling despite knowing that you are not addicted, or would you patronize another betting shop?
A matured person will understand that the operator is just looking out for you, but can as well just let you gamble as you wish.

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This is just a betting shop, there are other ways people can bet. No one will restrict anyone to be gambling online. What I am trying to say is that betting shop operator may be helpful for some gamblers, but not for anyone that gambles online.

That is how it is supposed to be, help cannot be rendered to everyone at a time so it is better to help the few you are capable of helping. This is the way it should be, no matter the advancement in technology not everyone are comfortable with online betting thats why some people prefer to visit bet shops so bet shop attendants can help reduce gambling addiction rate.

If 10 shops can do the same that will be a total of 10 gambling addiction prevented. It should be their responsibility to look after their customers wellbeing and prevent addiction instead of being selfish and be concerned about their own personal gains.


It was betting agent that stopped the gambler, not a bookmaker directly. According to what I know, bookmaker are directly interacting with gamblers online and this can not be helpful for gamblers than to be using little amount of money and to gamble responsibly.

Never underestimate the power of an a conversation; it may not be as useful as you think but it has the capacity to completely alter a circumstance. We should always attempt to help others, no matter how small the help may appear, since you never know how much of an influence it may have on them. Some advise has the power to change a person's life.

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