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August 25, 2023, 12:53:58 PM
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This is correct - please take note that this fee applies ONLY after 1 year of a player not logging into his account.
And we are committing ourselves to inform you one month in advance before we apply this fee.

The timer resets automatically when you login.
Yes i read this. I post this only so that future gamblers don't get confused, and blame you for lack of information due to not reading the T&C. Because many times it is not only the casino's fault, but the gamblers themselves face many problems due to not reading the T&C.

However, do you think this account fee strategy will be more effective? I think if a gambler is thinking of coming back after a year, they will surely lose interest after seeing this fee.

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August 25, 2023, 01:08:29 PM
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This is correct - please take note that this fee applies ONLY after 1 year of a player not logging into his account.
And we are committing ourselves to inform you one month in advance before we apply this fee.

The timer resets automatically when you login.
Yes i read this. I post this only so that future gamblers don't get confused, and blame you for lack of information due to not reading the T&C. Because many times it is not only the casino's fault, but the gamblers themselves face many problems due to not reading the T&C.

However, do you think this account fee strategy will be more effective? I think if a gambler is thinking of coming back after a year, they will surely lose interest after seeing this fee.

I understand what you mean - players may feel bad if they find about this as a surprise.

This policy is in place to discourage players from being inactive or ignoring important messages from our platform.

We are not a bank or exchange - these institutions are designed for storing money. We do not want to risk to appear as such institution.
So the policy above is legal and procedural.


But it can be offset by our other internal policies in the marketing and support department.
If a player comes back in a year or more of inactivity and complains to our support team that his balance does not correspond, we would be stupid not to make an offering to him that can offset this penalty.


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August 25, 2023, 03:30:29 PM
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Welcome to bitcointalk platform. It is nice having you here. I have gone through your website and I must say you have a good UI and graphics. At first i noticed you already registered a copper membership which shows you are a good listener and this further tells you are as well a good communicator and manager and i would like to call your attention to your posts here that you do not spam your own thread but rather you quote reply all in one thread so as not to occupy it all alone with single reply one for one. Quote replying on one post would help make your thread coordinated and well presentable.

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August 25, 2023, 05:08:37 PM
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This policy is in place to discourage players from being inactive or ignoring important messages from our platform.
But, as long you give the information/make updates to the public.

IMO, If they do not make the update by themself you are not wrong at all. As always they should be aware of what platform they're using, I read the fees are deducted from the account customer.

That's mean, If the account already inactive but doesn't have any balance left on the account you cannot deduct the fee right? due there is no balance to be deducted from the account. Maybe make another note, only for accounts that still have a balance left in the platform.

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August 25, 2023, 06:42:45 PM
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welcome to the forum, your casino has a very nice design. but he has a very dangerous TOS. I will speak of the parts where I see that they are a great danger for all people who use your casino.


KYC Policy of PWN Technologies N.V.


When a user makes an aggregate lifetime total of deposits exceeding EUR 2000 or requests a withdrawal of any amount inside leetbit.io Platform, then it is compulsory for them to perform a full KYC process.

source: https://www.leetbit.io/en/pages/kyc

that means people can put money in your casino they have no problem with that, they will only have problem if they deposit more than 2000$ and when they want to make any money withdrawal, but if they deposit 1000$ and they play and lose money in your casino, so it's ok, if they deposit 100 euros and win in some game and with that they have 300 euros, they need to keep playing until they lose or they need to provide documents to make the withdrawal, because the only problem is at the time of the withdrawal, in the time they deposit 100 euros there is no problem

this is because it was the license provider who said that you should do things this way, but I would like to ask the following:

Can you show license documents where the license provider says they should let people deposit money, but when withdrawing they should force them to do kyc? I confess that I am very curious to see this, and that in recent months new casinos and some with 2 years of existence have used this argument that it was the license provider who said that they should let people make deposits and at the time of withdrawal ask for kyc . now in case it wasn't the license provider that forced your casino to allow people to make deposits but then prevents people from making withdrawals because they must comply with kyc, then I ask you: why don't they force people to make kyc before making any deposit?

by doing this all the people who used your casino would first go through kyc and only after that they could make a deposit and with that they would not run any risk of depositing money and at the time of withdrawal they ask for kyc and when they do kyc they disapprove the documents and freeze funds, claiming that the person provided fake documents.

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August 25, 2023, 08:36:11 PM
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When a user makes an aggregate lifetime total of deposits exceeding EUR 2000 or requests a withdrawal of any amount inside leetbit.io Platform, then it is compulsory for them to perform a full KYC process.

I would say that it is really just that a small amount which it could be easily be achieved out on that 2k eur deposit.
Then asking these?
It's better if they are upfront about the KYC verification requirements and rules rather that lie to you that customers don't need any KYC verification and once you make a big winning they impose on you an impossible to pass KYC verification procedure.

I mean, how many casino out there will you play in and there is a guarantee they won't ever ask for KYC. Very, very few.

Exactly since its bit disappointing when we are there and suddenly mandatory Kyc is been asked. So much better that they put that upon registration so that there will be no question rise against this topic. To many casino say that they will not require KYC to their user but end up asking it on long run and also there are other turn scam since they are just baited those high rollers which doesn't want to go to this process.

Well, it's a nice thing they stated this and it's easily seen on the site. But full KYC when we reach a $2k deposit/withdrawal is a bit funny in my opinion. Why not from the start?

I only see slots and e-sports... an interesting choice for a start. I see many good providers and the site generally looks nice and simple. You definitely need some promotions and bonuses if you wish to attract more people.   

Welcome to the forum and good luck!
Totally laughable and useless on asking out KYC on 2k deposit overall or total and its true that why not really that asking on the time that people registers? With those numbers then it would really be just considered out to be that still on that way since its really that very minimal and just as mentioned that it is really that a threshold that anyone could easily achieve which means that they can easily be asked out some KYC even if they have played out minimal games or certain deposits which it is really that something that we dont really like. So i do agree into those words that better ask it out on the beginning rather than on setting numbers which it is really just as good as none or having nothing at all because it is really pointless or having no use at all.

Somewhat, you cant really blame out if people would really be turning out to be that skeptical on dealing with the site because KYC in the beginning is really that highly frowned upon on which it would really be just that
bringing out that kind of common reaction that people would really be avoiding it out instead on playing this one. There's so much platforms that do offer huge deposit threshold before they would be asking out
some KYC and not this one. I do see that this is a problem with this casino.

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Welcome to bitcointalk forum!
Leetbit_official can you tell us what is your KYC policy and can customers play games and withdraw coins without verification?
I tested so many new casinos that came out in last few years and I didnt found anything special that would make me switch my casinos of choice.
What is so special about Leetbit that would make me create account and test it?


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This policy is in place to discourage players from being inactive or ignoring important messages from our platform.
But, as long you give the information/make updates to the public.

IMO, If they do not make the update by themself you are not wrong at all. As always they should be aware of what platform they're using, I read the fees are deducted from the account customer.

That's mean, If the account already inactive but doesn't have any balance left on the account you cannot deduct the fee right? due there is no balance to be deducted from the account. Maybe make another note, only for accounts that still have a balance left in the platform.

they won't deduct anything if there's no balance at all. but what will happen if the player decides to be active again? are they going to deduct it once they deposit the money again? now, that's not a good encouragement for new players of this site.
anyway, they may soon find out that they need to rectify this policy or else, they will be avoided by the gamblers.

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Well, it's a nice thing they stated this and it's easily seen on the site. But full KYC when we reach a $2k deposit/withdrawal is a bit funny in my opinion. Why not from the start?
Exchanges have these kinds of limits from as far as I recall, but I don't see you complaining about them. How different is this?

Obviously, I am not a fan of KYC, but let's be fair. They are upfront about their limits and what they will do once the limits have been surpassed. This can help you make a choice on whether to sign up and use the service or not.

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Well, it's a nice thing they stated this and it's easily seen on the site. But full KYC when we reach a $2k deposit/withdrawal is a bit funny in my opinion. Why not from the start?
Exchanges have these kinds of limits from as far as I recall, but I don't see you complaining about them. How different is this?

Obviously, I am not a fan of KYC, but let's be fair. They are upfront about their limits and what they will do once the limits have been surpassed. This can help you make a choice on whether to sign up and use the service or not.

Then you didn't look carefully... although I don't trade as often as I used to for a long time, and when I make a trade it's usually done somewhere without KYC. When Roobet introduced mandatory KYC I stopped gambling there, I did the same thing when Binance introduced mandatory KYC, I stopped trading there. I feel like it was 100 years ago. Smiley

As someone said, if we wish to be fair casino owners should do full KYC before their players.

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Leetbit_official can you tell us what is your KYC policy and can customers play games and withdraw coins without verification?

As discussed previously by few users above, you can deposit and play without verification but you cant withdraw without verification because the terms say that KYC is required for any withdrawal.

I tested so many new casinos that came out in last few years and I didnt found anything special that would make me switch my casinos of choice.
What is so special about Leetbit that would make me create account and test it?

The only different thing offered by this casino the option to gamble through telegram bot. It is not really new thing too but not many casinos provide this option. I cant say that it is something special tbh, in general it is just another ordinary casino that provide games from 3rd party providers. 

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Last edit: August 26, 2023, 08:24:01 AM by ethereumhunter
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Welcome to Bitcointalk. Enjoy your time here while promoting your casino site and get in touch with all the members here so your casino site can grow bigger and grow.

I tried to register at your casino and am still waiting for your casino's verification email. I hope it takes a little bit of time so my account can be verified soon.

Regarding the KYC issue, if your casino asks customers to do KYC in the end, it is better if you ask them to do KYC before they deposit money, especially for customers who want to make big money deposits. This will prevent them from being able to withdraw their money if they want to withdraw large amounts of money due to the obligation to do KYC. Or maybe if they want to deposit big money, there is a notification for them to do KYC first.

And until I post this, the verification email has not arrived at my email address. Hopefully, there are no problems with your casino server email. Or you can check @OP.

edit: now the email verification is arrived. And I see the problem is solved.

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Awesome ANN post op. The black and yellow design of the ANN and the site itself is extremely appealing and I liked the UI too. Sad about the whole KYC issue, but it's good to see you guys being upfront about this .

Noticed that a FAQ section was missing which needs to be added at the bottom of the page in my opinion. All the best!

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You should add sports.
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Hi guys - thank you for your activity a clearly an interest in our brand. Since you are going trough Terms and Conditions.
We appreciate it.

Welcome to bitcointalk platform. It is nice having you here. I have gone through your website and I must say you have a good UI and graphics. At first i noticed you already registered a copper membership which shows you are a good listener and this further tells you are as well a good communicator and manager and i would like to call your attention to your posts here that you do not spam your own thread but rather you quote reply all in one thread so as not to occupy it all alone with single reply one for one. Quote replying on one post would help make your thread coordinated and well presentable.
Thanks for the suggestion - will do this right now  Cool


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This policy is in place to discourage players from being inactive or ignoring important messages from our platform.
But, as long you give the information/make updates to the public.

IMO, If they do not make the update by themself you are not wrong at all. As always they should be aware of what platform they're using, I read the fees are deducted from the account customer.

That's mean, If the account already inactive but doesn't have any balance left on the account you cannot deduct the fee right? due there is no balance to be deducted from the account. Maybe make another note, only for accounts that still have a balance left in the platform.

As per our written policy - we do not make an account to go below zero. Neither there is and hidden accumulation of the fee.
If any player decides to deposit after a year or more of inactivity, we consider this an account reactivation and he/she has again a year without any deduction.
Additionally any player is entitled to explain his case to our support and we can evaluate exceptions on one-to-one basis. So reversal is possible.


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welcome to the forum, your casino has a very nice design. but he has a very dangerous TOS. I will speak of the parts where I see that they are a great danger for all people who use your casino.


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When a user makes an aggregate lifetime total of deposits exceeding EUR 2000 or requests a withdrawal of any amount inside leetbit.io Platform, then it is compulsory for them to perform a full KYC process.

source: https://www.leetbit.io/en/pages/kyc

that means people can put money in your casino they have no problem with that, they will only have problem if they deposit more than 2000$ and when they want to make any money withdrawal, but if they deposit 1000$ and they play and lose money in your casino, so it's ok, if they deposit 100 euros and win in some game and with that they have 300 euros, they need to keep playing until they lose or they need to provide documents to make the withdrawal, because the only problem is at the time of the withdrawal, in the time they deposit 100 euros there is no problem

this is because it was the license provider who said that you should do things this way, but I would like to ask the following:

Can you show license documents where the license provider says they should let people deposit money, but when withdrawing they should force them to do kyc? I confess that I am very curious to see this, and that in recent months new casinos and some with 2 years of existence have used this argument that it was the license provider who said that they should let people make deposits and at the time of withdrawal ask for kyc . now in case it wasn't the license provider that forced your casino to allow people to make deposits but then prevents people from making withdrawals because they must comply with kyc, then I ask you: why don't they force people to make kyc before making any deposit?

by doing this all the people who used your casino would first go through kyc and only after that they could make a deposit and with that they would not run any risk of depositing money and at the time of withdrawal they ask for kyc and when they do kyc they disapprove the documents and freeze funds, claiming that the person provided fake documents.

Totally laughable and useless on asking out KYC on 2k deposit overall or total and its true that why not really that asking on the time that people registers? With those numbers then it would really be just considered out to be that still on that way since its really that very minimal and just as mentioned that it is really that a threshold that anyone could easily achieve which means that they can easily be asked out some KYC even if they have played out minimal games or certain deposits which it is really that something that we dont really like. So i do agree into those words that better ask it out on the beginning rather than on setting numbers which it is really just as good as none or having nothing at all because it is really pointless or having no use at all.

Somewhat, you cant really blame out if people would really be turning out to be that skeptical on dealing with the site because KYC in the beginning is really that highly frowned upon on which it would really be just that
bringing out that kind of common reaction that people would really be avoiding it out instead on playing this one. There's so much platforms that do offer huge deposit threshold before they would be asking out
some KYC and not this one. I do see that this is a problem with this casino.

Both questions hit on the same topic. Our obligations towards our license. The short answer is that we need to apply the AML rules of Curacao.
You guys are asking for proof - check the law in Curacao.
We paid a pretty penny for consultancy and legal companies to help us craft our policy co they impact our players the minim amount possible.

To make our point more solid - I noticed that you guys promote Stake and Rollbit - I am more than sure that they have the same or ever more strict Terms. Since they run under the same license as us. And if they dont, they are risking their license to get revoked.


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August 28, 2023, 10:19:02 PM
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You should add sports.

Adding classic sportsbook is in pipeline already, as users are requesting it.
We plan to add it in Q4 2023, or Q1 2024 at latest, depends on a development process.
We will update you about our progress regarding that for sure!

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August 30, 2023, 03:55:52 PM
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I like the domain name. Telegram integration is welcomed, telegram crypto bots have it's own hype these days
IDK on what is with the domain name on why you liked it? But if I guess, it is because it sounds "lit"? And the word lit means cool. I thought the 1337 on the title is the number of games but after checking the image again in the first post, I see that it was connected to the casino's name.

nd the real definition of their casino name is also given there. Anything is welcomed here in the forum even the scammed ones, but of course it's always better if we can mostly see a legit casino. This is also for their own good, if they want to be profitable or be successful in this field. This isn't the first Telegram casino that I saw but this one looks interesting.

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August 30, 2023, 10:31:25 PM
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You should add sports.

Adding classic sportsbook is in pipeline already, as users are requesting it.
We plan to add it in Q4 2023, or Q1 2024 at latest, depends on a development process.
We will update you about our progress regarding that for sure!

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Good to see that you are really that hearing up community suggestions actively, adding up sports on your site on just simply been asked out one day then now trying out to be applied on Q4 for this year sounds great.

I would like to advise on running up some small competitions and some bonuses at least to not to dry up the hype because if you wont really be doing such thing then it would really be that easily forgotten.

People do love on things which are really that something interesting specially on new casinos. Btw, do you have plans on running signature campaign on this forum?
This had been the pretty basic behavior or steps that a certain casino would do specially new ones so that they would be adding up some exposure and showing off about their existence.
Or you do plan on doing later this year or in next? Better do it ASAP so that you would show into the public about your site.

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August 31, 2023, 05:00:21 AM
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I like the domain name. Telegram integration is welcomed, telegram crypto bots have it's own hype these days
IDK on what is with the domain name on why you liked it? But if I guess, it is because it sounds "lit"? And the word lit means cool. I thought the 1337 on the title is the number of games but after checking the image again in the first post, I see that it was connected to the casino's name.

It's easy on my tongue, rhymes well with 'bit', plus liking is also subjective. This 'leet' stands for elite.


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August 31, 2023, 02:04:19 PM
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I like the domain name. Telegram integration is welcomed, telegram crypto bots have it's own hype these days
IDK on what is with the domain name on why you liked it? But if I guess, it is because it sounds "lit"? And the word lit means cool. I thought the 1337 on the title is the number of games but after checking the image again in the first post, I see that it was connected to the casino's name.

It's easy on my tongue, rhymes well with 'bit', plus liking is also subjective. This 'leet' stands for elite.



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