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If you created a new and better provably fair engine that's cool, but once a casino hire you to implement it then it will become public because the casino has to explain to the users how it works.
And i don't see the current provably fair engines as complex as you mention, they have logic and they already let the users verify their rolls.
A provably fair engine must have 3 elements:
-Server Seed. -User Seed. -Nonce.
If you skip any of those inputs then your engine isn't provably fair, that why it would be nice to know your system to be able to compare it with the current ones the casinos have and decide if it's better or not.
You don’t see it as complex? Are you a developer? How do you verify your bets? Yes that is correct about what you mention for the 3 elements.
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Math algorithms and methods cannot be registered, do not ask me why, but there is certainly an edge on a first implementation if you move it fast enough. Why would someone bother to implement if you offer a credible cheap service. I agree that it would be terribly difficult to make a business of implementation, but what about auditing and verification?
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November 26, 2023, 05:06:10 PM |
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Math algorithms and methods cannot be registered, do not ask me why, but there is certainly an edge on a first implementation if you move it fast enough.
I agree. They would get customers to register while other platforms are busy implementing my system of provably fair games. It will take some time for them to know about it, make a plan, talk with the developers and then implement it and release it. In the meanwhile, the platform who implemented it first will get many new customers.
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November 26, 2023, 06:59:26 PM |
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I agree. They would get customers to register while other platforms are busy implementing my system of provably fair games.
I really don't know if you may have been hired by any casino here on this forum, but if not, then I think they are yet to be convinced by this service which you offer, which is also a sign that you actually need to step up your marketing strategy to convince the over 20+ casinos we have here on this forum. But however, there is a statement highlighted bold above which you just said which caught my attention (i.e while other platforms are busy implementing my system of provably fair games. ), which implies that there are many casinos out there which you were able to help implement this strategy of provably fair games, right? So if so, why not give an example of some of the casinos you were able to help implement this method so that casino representatives here could go examine the previous work you did, and if they are satisfied with it, they could likely hire you to come duplicate same on there casino. That's just my simple suggestion. Thank you
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November 27, 2023, 06:07:09 PM |
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I agree. They would get customers to register while other platforms are busy implementing my system of provably fair games.
I really don't know if you may have been hired by any casino here on this forum, but if not, then I think they are yet to be convinced by this service which you offer, which is also a sign that you actually need to step up your marketing strategy to convince the over 20+ casinos we have here on this forum. But however, there is a statement highlighted bold above which you just said which caught my attention (i.e while other platforms are busy implementing my system of provably fair games. ), which implies that there are many casinos out there which you were able to help implement this strategy of provably fair games, right? So if so, why not give an example of some of the casinos you were able to help implement this method so that casino representatives here could go examine the previous work you did, and if they are satisfied with it, they could likely hire you to come duplicate same on there casino. That's just my simple suggestion. Thank you What you put in bold means that once a single casino implements it, everyone will see it and follow steps, no doubt about it. It will take some time though, and during that time it would be my client Casino who will get the players. The other casinos don’t need any permission because systems, ways of doing things or algorithms can’t be patented.
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Isn't it more better that we allow everybody to claim what they want or they are into, why i say this is for them to be able to get their own satisfaction well enough beyond their conviction and then they get contempted, then they will be able to know their own limit for whatever they are bringing to others as if it could always be the solution to other's people's problem, gambling is far beto what we think we can on our own self solve the problem, even the gambling casinos couldn't, how much us.
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November 29, 2023, 03:45:23 PM |
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Isn't it more better that we allow everybody to claim what they want or they are into, why i say this is for them to be able to get their own satisfaction well enough beyond their conviction and then they get contempted, then they will be able to know their own limit for whatever they are bringing to others as if it could always be the solution to other's people's problem, gambling is far beto what we think we can on our own self solve the problem, even the gambling casinos couldn't, how much us.
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are you an open source fan? i am...
how about you just say what your idea is- you seem like a smart guy, you will have more ideas... and maybe next time they will align better with your skill set so you can utilize it.
if you dont/cant make your own site, just say the idea and take pride and joy in possibly bettering an industry we all, obviously, care about. its very hard to make money from an idea you cant grow yourself.
just spill it. i mean, what are we here for? to give you business advice?
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November 29, 2023, 08:03:41 PM |
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If you created a new and better provably fair engine that's cool, but once a casino hire you to implement it then it will become public because the casino has to explain to the users how it works.
And i don't see the current provably fair engines as complex as you mention, they have logic and they already let the users verify their rolls.
A provably fair engine must have 3 elements:
-Server Seed. -User Seed. -Nonce.
If you skip any of those inputs then your engine isn't provably fair, that why it would be nice to know your system to be able to compare it with the current ones the casinos have and decide if it's better or not.
You don’t see it as complex? Are you a developer? How do you verify your bets? Yes that is correct about what you mention for the 3 elements. Yes, I'm a developer, the way I verify my bets is almost the same in all the provably fair engines. 1.-You make a string with the SSeed, USeed and the Nonce. then get the sha256 from that string. 2.-take the last 4 digits from the sha256 change from hex to Dec for dice and to binary for plinko. Those 3 elements are necessary for the next reason: -Server Seed: To avoid the user predicting the next roll (That's why it comes hashed and user can see it after getting new seed.) -User Seed: To avoid the house manipulate the bet result. -Nonce: To have a different result in the next bet with the same seeds. So, I'm really curious about your method, if you don't have one of these elements then the bet can be rigged from the user or house side.
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November 29, 2023, 10:06:28 PM |
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Math algorithms and methods cannot be registered, do not ask me why, but there is certainly an edge on a first implementation if you move it fast enough.
I agree. They would get customers to register while other platforms are busy implementing my system of provably fair games. It will take some time for them to know about it, make a plan, talk with the developers and then implement it and release it. In the meanwhile, the platform who implemented it first will get many new customers. I think you are overestimating the competitive edge a casino gets from provably fair gaming. Casinos want a good reputation among their potential customers. So if your system can get them that then that's what you should pitch. PF is not some magic bullet that will increase business though. Many casinos operate without it on their reputation alone, casinos with a robust PF system can and do go out of business.
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December 02, 2023, 03:49:41 PM |
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If you created a new and better provably fair engine that's cool, but once a casino hire you to implement it then it will become public because the casino has to explain to the users how it works.
And i don't see the current provably fair engines as complex as you mention, they have logic and they already let the users verify their rolls.
A provably fair engine must have 3 elements:
-Server Seed. -User Seed. -Nonce.
If you skip any of those inputs then your engine isn't provably fair, that why it would be nice to know your system to be able to compare it with the current ones the casinos have and decide if it's better or not.
You don’t see it as complex? Are you a developer? How do you verify your bets? Yes that is correct about what you mention for the 3 elements. Yes, I'm a developer, the way I verify my bets is almost the same in all the provably fair engines. 1.-You make a string with the SSeed, USeed and the Nonce. then get the sha256 from that string. 2.-take the last 4 digits from the sha256 change from hex to Dec for dice and to binary for plinko. Those 3 elements are necessary for the next reason: -Server Seed: To avoid the user predicting the next roll (That's why it comes hashed and user can see it after getting new seed.) -User Seed: To avoid the house manipulate the bet result. -Nonce: To have a different result in the next bet with the same seeds. So, I'm really curious about your method, if you don't have one of these elements then the bet can be rigged from the user or house side. I know you must be really curious, and I also can’t wait to share my system, but unfortunately I haven’t had the opportunity yet. Yes I was pretty sure you were a developer, if you don’t find understanding and verifying the provably fair games a difficult task (at least in the beginning). My system is destined to non developers, who know a little bit about crypto and computers to be able to use a crypto casino.
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Math algorithms and methods cannot be registered, do not ask me why, but there is certainly an edge on a first implementation if you move it fast enough.
I agree. They would get customers to register while other platforms are busy implementing my system of provably fair games. It will take some time for them to know about it, make a plan, talk with the developers and then implement it and release it. In the meanwhile, the platform who implemented it first will get many new customers. I think you are overestimating the competitive edge a casino gets from provably fair gaming. Casinos want a good reputation among their potential customers. So if your system can get them that then that's what you should pitch. PF is not some magic bullet that will increase business though. Many casinos operate without it on their reputation alone, casinos with a robust PF system can and do go out of business. This is definitely a very important issue in this whole initiative of yours to introduce a new algorithm for checking the integrity of casinos. In general, I admit that the managers of many casinos may answer that it is even better for them to work in a state of uncertainty. Perhaps their business is even better, regardless of whether players know whether the games are provably fair at a given casino or whether these are unsubstantiated claims by the casino devs. And they don’t need any verification algorithms at all. In addition, I don’t think that the casino’s customer base is seriously increasing from such an essentially marketing technique as a public statement by the casino about the introduction of algorithms for checking provable fairness. Most likely, the increase in the client base is estimated at a few percent and does not seriously increase the flow of funds to the casino’s balance sheet and its profits. And if this is approximately the case, then it may indeed be difficult to find among casino managers the interest of a manager who actually resolves issues in the implementation of algorithms for checking provable fairnesss.
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Still open for suggestions on whom I might contact.
I’m asking simply out of curiosity and so that other forum users would think about the fact that alternative algorithms for checking provable honesty could indeed be invented. This is a rather important direction for the development of the entire gambling industry in general, it seems to me. So, OP, please respond, has anything changed in your search for those casino executives who would agree to use this innovative invention of yours. Or is it still just polite or even not polite refusals to cooperate? Actually, since this looks like some kind of mathematical algorithm, maybe it’s still worth starting to discuss it in the scientific community of mathematicians, maybe even in some kind of disguised, hidden form (so that no one steals the invention)?
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Still open for suggestions on whom I might contact.
I’m asking simply out of curiosity and so that other forum users would think about the fact that alternative algorithms for checking provable honesty could indeed be invented. This is a rather important direction for the development of the entire gambling industry in general, it seems to me. So, OP, please respond, has anything changed in your search for those casino executives who would agree to use this innovative invention of yours. Or is it still just polite or even not polite refusals to cooperate? Actually, since this looks like some kind of mathematical algorithm, maybe it’s still worth starting to discuss it in the scientific community of mathematicians, maybe even in some kind of disguised, hidden form (so that no one steals the invention)? Unfortunately, there might be no future (for me) in regards to this. Until someone from within the casino industry figures it out. It’s a good idea though to continue talking about it, maybe outside of a strict gambling enterprise environment, like you said.
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January 25, 2024, 07:24:08 AM |
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Still open for suggestions on whom I might contact.
I’m asking simply out of curiosity and so that other forum users would think about the fact that alternative algorithms for checking provable honesty could indeed be invented. This is a rather important direction for the development of the entire gambling industry in general, it seems to me. So, OP, please respond, has anything changed in your search for those casino executives who would agree to use this innovative invention of yours. Or is it still just polite or even not polite refusals to cooperate? Actually, since this looks like some kind of mathematical algorithm, maybe it’s still worth starting to discuss it in the scientific community of mathematicians, maybe even in some kind of disguised, hidden form (so that no one steals the invention)? Unfortunately, there might be no future (for me) in regards to this. Until someone from within the casino industry figures it out. It’s a good idea though to continue talking about it, maybe outside of a strict gambling enterprise environment, like you said. This is what probably makes sense. If such conversations continue, then more people will, in principle, learn, not only that there are honesty verification algorithms, which even if they had heard about before, they simply forgot and did not attach importance to this information. And the idea will also spread that there may be several such algorithms, and not just one, as many players think. So it seems to me that this topic can be continued without being particularly distracted by it. But when it is in the first links of the Gembling section, sometimes forum users will still go to this topic. And this will intensify the discussion, I think.
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Crypto gambling website representatives: please DM so that I can send you my CV. I am only responding to respected crypto gambling representatives here. I have many remarkable academic accomplishments, and looking to make a deal in exchange for my provably fair system. Depending on the size and the reputation of your casino, I won’t ask for escrow and you’ll get to see my system before any payment is made. This is what I have to offer: I have a unique approach to implementing provably fair games. Unlike current methods, my approach significantly simplifies the implementation process. This results in a game system that requires minimal cryptography understanding from players, almost no coding skills, and only a brief time to comprehend and verify game outcomes. This approach can be applied to most provably fair games at this stage. Presently, average crypto users interested in playing provably fair games are required to navigate through approximately four pages of information https://stake.com/provably-fair/overview, possess a deep understanding of coding, and dedicate substantial effort to comprehending and validating the fairness of results. My proposed approach addresses these challenges and offers, as well, the following advantages: - Equally robust provably fair gameplay, ensuring the impossibility of cheating and enabling verification, with no trust required. -The explanations provided to players are presented in a half-page format, yet deliver the same value as the current four-page requirement. Other people who have useful comments might do so, but please refrain from trying to know how I get to implement the provably fair games this way because I am not saying anything nor giving any hints. Stories about people who passed through similar situations as mine are appreciated. Thank you! Edit 26/08/23: It is so hard to get to know legitimate emails where I can send my CV and a letter. If you know any, please post them below. Edited on 25/10/2023: I am only looking to make a deal for my system. I have previously stated that prior I should be hired as an advisor but I now think that’s irrelevant for the service I can offer. What makes you think you have solved the problem ? You need to broaden your horizons and by this setting boundaries to making sure every steps is taken into input will help you achieve a great deal . Looking at your set up,i would preferably say you have come along way but it didn't go down to eliminating or solving the complexity in fair games.. We all know gambling is a game of tactics,IQ and lots more but you need to breakdown the parts you have tremendously tackled.
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January 26, 2024, 04:43:29 AM |
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Crypto gambling website representatives: please DM so that I can send you my CV. I am only responding to respected crypto gambling representatives here. I have many remarkable academic accomplishments, and looking to make a deal in exchange for my provably fair system. Depending on the size and the reputation of your casino, I won’t ask for escrow and you’ll get to see my system before any payment is made. This is what I have to offer: I have a unique approach to implementing provably fair games. Unlike current methods, my approach significantly simplifies the implementation process. This results in a game system that requires minimal cryptography understanding from players, almost no coding skills, and only a brief time to comprehend and verify game outcomes. This approach can be applied to most provably fair games at this stage. Presently, average crypto users interested in playing provably fair games are required to navigate through approximately four pages of information https://stake.com/provably-fair/overview, possess a deep understanding of coding, and dedicate substantial effort to comprehending and validating the fairness of results. My proposed approach addresses these challenges and offers, as well, the following advantages: - Equally robust provably fair gameplay, ensuring the impossibility of cheating and enabling verification, with no trust required. -The explanations provided to players are presented in a half-page format, yet deliver the same value as the current four-page requirement. Other people who have useful comments might do so, but please refrain from trying to know how I get to implement the provably fair games this way because I am not saying anything nor giving any hints. Stories about people who passed through similar situations as mine are appreciated. Thank you! Edit 26/08/23: It is so hard to get to know legitimate emails where I can send my CV and a letter. If you know any, please post them below. Edited on 25/10/2023: I am only looking to make a deal for my system. I have previously stated that prior I should be hired as an advisor but I now think that’s irrelevant for the service I can offer. What makes you think you have solved the problem ? You need to broaden your horizons and by this setting boundaries to making sure every steps is taken into input will help you achieve a great deal . Looking at your set up,i would preferably say you have come along way but it didn't go down to eliminating or solving the complexity in fair games.. We all know gambling is a game of tactics,IQ and lots more but you need to breakdown the parts you have tremendously tackled. My system eliminates most of the complexity linked to verifying provably fair games. What does that mean? It means you don’t have to be a developer nor you have to learn coding, nor install any coding software to verify the outcomes (nor any other software or plugin). The steps are basic and simple. Now of course, since we’re talking about verifying outcomes, a bit of effort is needed, but is nothing compared to the effort needed for the current system.
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Haunebu
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January 26, 2024, 06:56:02 AM |
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Am not an IT developer or anything though I know some basic stuff due to which I won't comment on the technical stuff, but I am just curious as to whether you received any compelling offers regarding your system op?
Asking because it's been a couple of months since you created this particular thread and it seems like you haven't really achieved much success so far.
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