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August 25, 2023, 05:31:49 PM
Last edit: October 25, 2023, 07:12:30 PM by AussieMat
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Crypto gambling website representatives: please DM so that I can send you my CV. I am only responding to respected crypto gambling representatives here. I have many remarkable academic accomplishments, and looking to make a deal in exchange for my provably fair system.

Depending on the size and the reputation of your casino, I won’t ask for escrow and you’ll get to see my system before any payment is made. This is what I have to offer:
I have a unique approach to implementing provably fair games. Unlike current methods, my approach significantly simplifies the implementation process. This results in a game system that requires minimal cryptography understanding from players, almost no coding skills, and only a brief time to comprehend and verify game outcomes. This approach can be applied to most provably fair games at this stage.

Presently, average crypto users interested in playing provably fair games are required to navigate through approximately four pages of information https://stake.com/provably-fair/overview, possess a deep understanding of coding, and dedicate substantial effort to comprehending and validating the fairness of results. My proposed approach addresses these challenges and offers, as well, the following advantages:

- Equally robust provably fair gameplay, ensuring the impossibility of cheating and enabling verification, with no trust required.
-The explanations provided to players are presented in a half-page format, yet deliver the same value as the current four-page requirement.

Other people who have useful comments might do so, but please refrain from trying to know how I get to implement the provably fair games this way because I am not saying anything nor giving any hints.
Stories about people who passed through similar situations as mine are appreciated. Thank you!

Edit 26/08/23: It is so hard to get to know legitimate emails where I can send my CV and a letter. If you know any, please post them below.

Edited on 25/10/2023: I am only looking to make a deal for my system. I have previously stated that prior I should be hired as an advisor but I now think that’s irrelevant for the service I can offer.
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August 25, 2023, 05:41:40 PM
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I think you should give this pitch to your employer and not here. Not want to ask you any hints but you should have provide proofs of your claim so it would have a good point for discussion. Well, I guess it's nice to know who is this forum have the same situation as you and know the details.

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August 25, 2023, 07:40:55 PM
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<...>
Other people who have useful comments might do so, but please refrain from trying to know how I get to implement the provably fair games this way because I am not saying anything nor giving any hints.
Stories about people who passed through similar situations as mine are appreciated. Thank you!

Things might seem great in theory, but when they meet the real world, they often fall flat on their face. How can you be sure your system outshines the current one? Have you had a reliable third party give it the thumbs-up? Trusting only your own judgment can come off as quite arrogant, and, honestly, it often misses the mark.

And by the way, if you're banking on big gambling operators reaching out to you just because of this pitch, you're in for a surprise. That's not likely to happen.
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August 25, 2023, 07:54:16 PM
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Your can't be sure to raise shoulder high yet. Is that your work you did on stake or what?

Moreover I think what you are providing is service so you can move it to the service board, I believe you know how to navigate there.

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August 25, 2023, 08:30:35 PM
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Allow me to make a couple of suggestions:
you must be the one to contact the companies and ask if they may be interested in your profile.
Create a profile LinkedIn and get in touch with them.
Ask youself... if they really can be interested in a solution of this kind (they have an advantage?)
better... why not create this kind service (if it could be possible?) and offer it?

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August 25, 2023, 09:07:27 PM
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~snip~
Create a profile LinkedIn and get in touch with them.
^Such a good suggestion that OP must pay attention to it.
Creating a professional LinkedIn profile can enhance your credibility and provide a platform for networking with potential stakeholders in the industry. Because for me when approaching companies, emphasize the advantages your proposed solution brings to the table. Demonstrating how your approach can offer them a competitive edge or solve existing challenges will get their interest.
So good luck to you OP.
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August 25, 2023, 10:38:07 PM
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provably fair games are okay as it is. They don't need to be improved upon or whatever. They basically speak for themselves even lol. While I think your idea is great and could see some use in the future once gambling becomes larger, I don't think the problem of "cheating" or whatever is a large-scale problem really. After all it's already randomized as it could get. Plus you could basically have it verify its validity. I think it all boils down on "fixing what doesn't need to be fixed". Provably fair is great as it is so I don't think this improvement is needed. Although with your skills, you're definitely going to come up with an awesome idea with real-life application that people will ponder upon for years to come. Keep at it brother.

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August 26, 2023, 04:44:52 AM
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<...>
Other people who have useful comments might do so, but please refrain from trying to know how I get to implement the provably fair games this way because I am not saying anything nor giving any hints.
Stories about people who passed through similar situations as mine are appreciated. Thank you!

Things might seem great in theory, but when they meet the real world, they often fall flat on their face. How can you be sure your system outshines the current one? Have you had a reliable third party give it the thumbs-up? Trusting only your own judgment can come off as quite arrogant, and, honestly, it often misses the mark.

And by the way, if you're banking on big gambling operators reaching out to you just because of this pitch, you're in for a surprise. That's not likely to happen.


For the first paragraph, as I said earlier, it is a simple process, and yes I am sure. Arrogant or not, there is absolutely no doubt about it. It is a challenge though since revealing it would be end of story for my role in this. It’s fair I get a slice of the pie.

For the second part, you might be right. I would be so pissed off though. I won’t pretend to be a business analyst expert, but honestly this could be huge, easy marketing. It could also open doors for getting licenses in landbased casinos who could cut their costs tremendously by laying off croupiers and extending their opening hours. The country licensors will give the license easier if the process is easier as well…
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August 26, 2023, 04:47:39 AM
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~snip~
Create a profile LinkedIn and get in touch with them.
^Such a good suggestion that OP must pay attention to it.
Creating a professional LinkedIn profile can enhance your credibility and provide a platform for networking with potential stakeholders in the industry. Because for me when approaching companies, emphasize the advantages your proposed solution brings to the table. Demonstrating how your approach can offer them a competitive edge or solve existing challenges will get their interest.
So good luck to you OP.

Thank you for the suggestion. In my profession in the country where I am, it is very uncommon to have a linked In profile. You just send a letter and your CV and you’re hired. If things really can’t go forward from here I will be considering this option though.
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August 26, 2023, 10:21:56 AM
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For the first paragraph, as I said earlier, it is a simple process, and yes I am sure. Arrogant or not, there is absolutely no doubt about it. It is a challenge though since revealing it would be end of story for my role in this. It’s fair I get a slice of the pie.

For the second part, you might be right. I would be so pissed off though. I won’t pretend to be a business analyst expert, but honestly this could be huge, easy marketing. It could also open doors for getting licenses in landbased casinos who could cut their costs tremendously by laying off croupiers and extending their opening hours. The country licensors will give the license easier if the process is easier as well…

So, you believe that you've come up with a system that significantly simplifies the provably fair mechanism and that nobody else has thought of it so far. That's certainly possible. But it's also possible that, due to your lack of knowledge and expertise, you don't see the flaw in your system, and that's why nobody is using it. Cryptography is essential, and there's no alternative to it.

It's a tough call whether you're onto something big or just missing a beat.
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August 26, 2023, 11:29:23 AM
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Other people who have useful comments might do so, but please refrain from trying to know how I get to implement the provably fair games this way because I am not saying anything nor giving any hints.
Stories about people who passed through similar situations as mine are appreciated. Thank you!
There is no solution that can beat the game system owned by a gambling site unless they themselves manage to give in. Of the 1,000 players, 2 of them are arranged to be given a win so that it seems that the site is suitable to be used as a place to gamble.
I'm tired of all that guys.
Your role is similar to that of an admin/operator of a gambling company that is doing a promotion.

Those who have worked as an operator in a gambling company will laugh reading my post.
I also really agree with what decodx said above that everything looks great in theory, but it will collapse when it is in reality.

 
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August 26, 2023, 12:11:41 PM
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I was intrigued by reading your post, the provably fair system actually requires basic skills in order to be understood and/or verified by the individual user, so average player usually relies on third-party verifications .... and then declares that everything is rigged when stumbles upon an uunlucky streak.
If the system you implemented really breaks down this knowledge barrier it would really bring a great benefit to gambling industry : have you already tried and tested it extensively?
Also if you fear someone might steal your idea have you considered registering the patent?

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August 26, 2023, 01:33:11 PM
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<...>
Other people who have useful comments might do so, but please refrain from trying to know how I get to implement the provably fair games this way because I am not saying anything nor giving any hints.
Stories about people who passed through similar situations as mine are appreciated. Thank you!

Things might seem great in theory, but when they meet the real world, they often fall flat on their face. How can you be sure your system outshines the current one? Have you had a reliable third party give it the thumbs-up? Trusting only your own judgment can come off as quite arrogant, and, honestly, it often misses the mark.

And by the way, if you're banking on big gambling operators reaching out to you just because of this pitch, you're in for a surprise. That's not likely to happen.

Yes, I agree with that, sometimes what is in theory does not match the reality. This can happen because sometimes everything just happens and it is beyond our expectations.

But we will never know about the truth of the theory we learn, if we never put it into practice. And we cannot suggest or offer a theory that is not yet clear. if only according to other people, I can also be like that.

and I also want to add a question. Has the OP practiced the theory you learned to find out the truth ..?

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August 26, 2023, 04:53:33 PM
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It's a tough call whether you're onto something big or just missing a beat.
This even makes me more excited if you think this is something big.

To answer some questions, I am ready to pitch the CEO, and he’ll play the provably fair game and see for himself. My best bet is to be hired as an advisor, reveal my idea with some legal protection, and get some extra fee on the revenue generated after it is implemented. No doubt it is going to be implemented as it is much simpler to understand by the player and gives him more confidence he’s playing fair games.

As I mentioned in the OP edit, it is so hard to get to know legitimate emails where I can send my CV and a letter. If you know any, please post them below. The only one I got is for the development company of Stake, that I sent my CV with the letter on a few days ago with no answer.
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August 26, 2023, 07:50:32 PM
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Leaving aside the part about whether your service is better than the service currently used in casinos, your form of advertising or drawing attention may not be very useful, because many casino representatives do not enter this forum and when they do they keep posting in their ann thread or else they post in the scam accusation section when there is a scam accusation against them, so in my opinion something you could do would be for you to get in touch with these new casinos and even the casinos that are in this forum and operating recently or in the last 2 or 3 years

if you can get a deal done with any casino then you could ask the casino rep to post a review on this thread and also leave feedback on your thread and if possible if they could leave feedback on your forum account that would be appreciated obviously nothing can be forced. in my opinion this would be a good way to attract more other good casinos that are in this forum and your service would already be well known and all casinos would not hesitate to contact you

something I kept asking myself was the following: suppose you get in touch with some casino and that casino asks you to show your service, so you show the casino and they spend your service, they reach some agreement, how can you be sure that the casino Won't you take a guy who knows coding and copy your idea and then stop making a deal because the casino is selling your idea to other casinos?

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August 26, 2023, 08:34:37 PM
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something I kept asking myself was the following: suppose you get in touch with some casino and that casino asks you to show your service, so you show the casino and they spend your service, they reach some agreement, how can you be sure that the casino Won't you take a guy who knows coding and copy your idea and then stop making a deal because the casino is selling your idea to other casinos?
Thank you for the earlier advice, I will be contacting them (if I can since I am a newbie).

To answer the question: first is to get hired as an advisor with a fixed term contract. If someone thinks my qualifications aren’t good enough for that then it’s end of story with that casino. Second I will consult legal professionals for this matter. It’s a challenge, but I can imagine that once my idea is revealed, any changes to their provably fair games with a consequent increase in revenue must be paid a royalty fee to me. They shouldn’t have a way around it. It’s something to be carefully worked out with legal professionals.

Now if they pass on the idea to another casino that’s a tough question to address, but actually an intelligent question. In general, casino owners are different, and are competing with each other. On the other hand, a big enough casino would never do such a thing with affiliates. They’d rather profit from their biggest operator if they have to choose between small and big ones (if they have many casinos)
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something I kept asking myself was the following: suppose you get in touch with some casino and that casino asks you to show your service, so you show the casino and they spend your service, they reach some agreement, how can you be sure that the casino Won't you take a guy who knows coding and copy your idea and then stop making a deal because the casino is selling your idea to other casinos?
Thank you for the earlier advice, I will be contacting them (if I can since I am a newbie).

To answer the question: first is to get hired as an advisor with a fixed term contract. If someone thinks my qualifications aren’t good enough for that then it’s end of story with that casino. Second I will consult legal professionals for this matter. It’s a challenge, but I can imagine that once my idea is revealed, any changes to their provably fair games with a consequent increase in revenue must be paid a royalty fee to me. They shouldn’t have a way around it. It’s something to be carefully worked out with legal professionals.

Now if they pass on the idea to another casino that’s a tough question to address, but actually an intelligent question. In general, casino owners are different, and are competing with each other. On the other hand, a big enough casino would never do such a thing with affiliates. They’d rather profit from their biggest operator if they have to choose between small and big ones (if they have many casinos)
This could be a great service that you can offer to the casinos, I'm thinking about what process you are going to do so you can be sure that you are safe from any harassments from the casinos. Taking a great team to handle this is also ok, just make sure you understand the terms and also have your own terms to limit the casino and you can avoid them from selling your idea or work to other casinos without your approval, this term can serve as your protection.
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August 28, 2023, 07:23:52 AM
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- Equally robust provably fair gameplay, ensuring the impossibility of cheating and enabling verification, with no trust required.

Are you sure of this you're saying at all? I don't think there's nothing being impossible to achieve when there's a target aimed at us for an attack, we should be the one that shouldn't allow any chances of being attacked by anyone on wat we have built, how much ore of the security measures are we taking to ensure safety than just mere vain saying.

-The explanations provided to players are presented in a half-page format, yet deliver the same value as the current four-page requirement.

Do we actually needs much of explanation than taking steps of action or am i the one thinking otherwise, maybe OP should create ANN thread for these under service discussion for his intending clients.

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August 28, 2023, 12:03:58 PM
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something I kept asking myself was the following: suppose you get in touch with some casino and that casino asks you to show your service, so you show the casino and they spend your service, they reach some agreement, how can you be sure that the casino Won't you take a guy who knows coding and copy your idea and then stop making a deal because the casino is selling your idea to other casinos?
Thank you for the earlier advice, I will be contacting them (if I can since I am a newbie).

To answer the question: first is to get hired as an advisor with a fixed term contract. If someone thinks my qualifications aren’t good enough for that then it’s end of story with that casino. Second I will consult legal professionals for this matter. It’s a challenge, but I can imagine that once my idea is revealed, any changes to their provably fair games with a consequent increase in revenue must be paid a royalty fee to me. They shouldn’t have a way around it. It’s something to be carefully worked out with legal professionals.

Now if they pass on the idea to another casino that’s a tough question to address, but actually an intelligent question. In general, casino owners are different, and are competing with each other. On the other hand, a big enough casino would never do such a thing with affiliates. They’d rather profit from their biggest operator if they have to choose between small and big ones (if they have many casinos)

I have gone through the whole thread and I really think that other members of the forum have guided you very well about the matter. I would like to say something that's different and maybe helpful for you. I don't think that any of those well known casinos will be willing to sign a legal contract with you because they're already okay with their version of the provably fair system and they don't want to spend any more money to someone else's system.

Instead of pitching those casinos I recommend you to launch your own casino if you have the budget for that. If you can create your own casino then you don't need to ask others to test or implement your version of provably fair because you can implement that in your own casino games without someone else's permission and you may get appreciation from the gamblers if they found your version better and easily comprehensible. Other casinos may not pay you well for that system that you are giving them and that's why it's way better to own a casino yourself and implement the system in your own casino. That way you may earn better revenue from your research and others may get license from you if they want to implement it in their casinos.

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