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July 29, 2024, 05:51:27 PM
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unless you can set new custom seed (and actually set a new seed for every game round, which nobody does), the provably fair game is a sham, for example on duelbits.com you cannot actually set a custom 'seed' and instead just 'cycle' for a new seed (which is decided by it's backend),

this opinion is coming from own experience creating turnkey/whitelabel casino platforms / custom games (slots & livecasino) for instance check https://portfolio.wildwestgaming.net.

Ofcourse if you do need game distribution I hold myself recommend (check my topic on profile).

Hey there. That is not true, you only have to define a Client Seed once, that is truly random, and you’re good to go practically forever. You’ll only have to verify that your current game matches the nonce for your game round, which is easy to do, though not very practical for those who make very large number of bets, but easy to do for those who want to place large bets and make sure they’re not being cheated for any of those bets.

I’ve read what has been said since my last post, and I can say this about getting a « no ». The most weird thing about this « no » is that I am not trying to get any money to sell my system, but will reveal it for free, and only get paid s pedefined amount agreed upon, ONLY IF the casino decides to implement it. It shouldn’t take their legal team more than a few hours to send the contract. I had some hopes when an executive from BC.Game was interested in this but he ended up shrugging me off. And I am a very highly qualified person, it’s not like you’re talking to some idiot or something. It is what it is, at this point I pretty much can’t do anything about it, unless if at some point I open my own casino and become successful.
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July 31, 2024, 07:23:33 AM
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unless you can set new custom seed (and actually set a new seed for every game round, which nobody does), the provably fair game is a sham, for example on duelbits.com you cannot actually set a custom 'seed' and instead just 'cycle' for a new seed (which is decided by it's backend),

this opinion is coming from own experience creating turnkey/whitelabel casino platforms / custom games (slots & livecasino) for instance check https://portfolio.wildwestgaming.net.

Ofcourse if you do need game distribution I hold myself recommend (check my topic on profile).

Hey there. That is not true, you only have to define a Client Seed once, that is truly random, and you’re good to go practically forever. You’ll only have to verify that your current game matches the nonce for your game round, which is easy to do, though not very practical for those who make very large number of bets, but easy to do for those who want to place large bets and make sure they’re not being cheated for any of those bets.

I’ve read what has been said since my last post, and I can say this about getting a « no ». The most weird thing about this « no » is that I am not trying to get any money to sell my system, but will reveal it for free, and only get paid s pedefined amount agreed upon, ONLY IF the casino decides to implement it. It shouldn’t take their legal team more than a few hours to send the contract. I had some hopes when an executive from BC.Game was interested in this but he ended up shrugging me off. And I am a very highly qualified person, it’s not like you’re talking to some idiot or something. It is what it is, at this point I pretty much can’t do anything about it, unless if at some point I open my own casino and become successful.
But this is probably the best way out of such a stalemate, one might say. 

However, to open your own casino you will need quite a lot of money and whether you can find sponsors specifically for the project of opening a casino with a unique algorithm for checking provable fairness is a very big question.  But, I repeat, in my opinion this is a more realistic course of events than what you have proposed so far.  As a matter of fact, it is unlikely that there will be anyone among the casino managers who will agree to try out a new algorithm that is unfamiliar to him and potentially dangerous for his business.  This can cause serious image losses for this casino.  All the bosses are afraid and don’t want to get involved.

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July 31, 2024, 09:38:42 AM
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unless you can set new custom seed (and actually set a new seed for every game round, which nobody does), the provably fair game is a sham, for example on duelbits.com you cannot actually set a custom 'seed' and instead just 'cycle' for a new seed (which is decided by it's backend),

this opinion is coming from own experience creating turnkey/whitelabel casino platforms / custom games (slots & livecasino) for instance check https://portfolio.wildwestgaming.net.

Ofcourse if you do need game distribution I hold myself recommend (check my topic on profile).

Hey there. That is not true, you only have to define a Client Seed once, that is truly random, and you’re good to go practically forever. You’ll only have to verify that your current game matches the nonce for your game round, which is easy to do, though not very practical for those who make very large number of bets, but easy to do for those who want to place large bets and make sure they’re not being cheated for any of those bets.

I’ve read what has been said since my last post, and I can say this about getting a « no ». The most weird thing about this « no » is that I am not trying to get any money to sell my system, but will reveal it for free, and only get paid s pedefined amount agreed upon, ONLY IF the casino decides to implement it. It shouldn’t take their legal team more than a few hours to send the contract. I had some hopes when an executive from BC.Game was interested in this but he ended up shrugging me off. And I am a very highly qualified person, it’s not like you’re talking to some idiot or something. It is what it is, at this point I pretty much can’t do anything about it, unless if at some point I open my own casino and become successful.
But this is probably the best way out of such a stalemate, one might say. 

However, to open your own casino you will need quite a lot of money and whether you can find sponsors specifically for the project of opening a casino with a unique algorithm for checking provable fairness is a very big question.  But, I repeat, in my opinion this is a more realistic course of events than what you have proposed so far.  As a matter of fact, it is unlikely that there will be anyone among the casino managers who will agree to try out a new algorithm that is unfamiliar to him and potentially dangerous for his business.  This can cause serious image losses for this casino.  All the bosses are afraid and don’t want to get involved.

Nobody should be afraid as long as they get a free look at my system without any prior engagement of implementing it.

I think the main reason for them not being interested is that for most they don’t even believe that such a thing is possible, or how can I come up with it and not their specialized teams.
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July 31, 2024, 10:21:16 AM
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Am still surprised at seeing this thread still existing and being bumped on lately, well, i want to believe that there is still more to continue to discuss or update concerning the thread, even though as it has been for a while now that the OP is not active on it again, but the truth still remains about some certain things in life, that if you're trying to solve everyone's problem, you may ended up disappointing all.
July 15th was the date op posted last before you made this comment on July 22nd, and that is like 7 days difference, which is one week.
Personally, on a forum like this, and considering the fact that op is not promoting any service through his or her signature ad space, I think one week is too short to conclude that such a user is no longer active, which also op has proven is right seeing that he came back here and have been replaying to majorly every comment on this thread.

Anyways, thats by the way, the last part of your comment is actually the truth, man's problems are limitless, and that is why there is never a rest in this world as long as man is alive, there will always be problems he is running up and down to solve, and anyone trying to solve other people's problems will either be doing it to get money to solve their own personal problems as well, or for other motives, and even at such, not everyone's problem will be solved at the end of the day.

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August 01, 2024, 11:53:23 AM
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Still available. My provably fair paper has been sitting on my computer for a few months now.
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August 01, 2024, 01:39:38 PM
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If you come here to speak like a professional person and an expert in the field of gambling, you should first make your work history in the service department, openly, the casino owners here can consider you working at their casino, you don't show anything here come and talk, everyone can be like that, you need to be a beginner, who wants to take risks, nothing is in vain.

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Crypto gambling website representatives: please DM so that I can send you my CV. I am only responding to respected crypto gambling representatives here. I have many remarkable academic accomplishments, and looking to make a deal in exchange for my provably fair system.
The owner of this online crypto casino at Bitcointalk, they already have people who can be relied on and trusted, they have worked hard for years and have proven to be professional and fair in every way, but they need a long process to gain the trust of the casino, they have gone through challenges day after day.

If you come here to speak like a professional person and an expert in the field of gambling, you should first make your work history in the service department, openly, the casino owners here can consider you working at their casino, you don't show anything here come and talk, everyone can be like that, you need to be a beginner, who wants to take risks, nothing is in vain.
No matter how much we here advise OP to take all possible actions to implement in practice the algorithm that he invented, we should not exclude such a rather rare, but nevertheless still having some probability, case when OP actually made a discovery.  And sometimes entire teams of specialists cannot guess such a discovery.  For example, there is a mathematician named Perelman who proved the Poincaré conjecture.  And no one had been able to do this before, looking at whole groups of very strong mathematicians, for example at the Fields Institute.  All these mathematicians could not cope, but only Perelman managed it.  This could be the case with the original and unique algorithm that OP came up with, or maybe the solution to this problem came to him while he was sleeping...

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August 01, 2024, 11:54:30 PM
 #168

Crypto gambling website representatives: please DM so that I can send you my CV. I am only responding to respected crypto gambling representatives here. I have many remarkable academic accomplishments, and looking to make a deal in exchange for my provably fair system.
The owner of this online crypto casino at Bitcointalk, they already have people who can be relied on and trusted, they have worked hard for years and have proven to be professional and fair in every way, but they need a long process to gain the trust of the casino, they have gone through challenges day after day.

If you come here to speak like a professional person and an expert in the field of gambling, you should first make your work history in the service department, openly, the casino owners here can consider you working at their casino, you don't show anything here come and talk, everyone can be like that, you need to be a beginner, who wants to take risks, nothing is in vain.
No matter how much we here advise OP to take all possible actions to implement in practice the algorithm that he invented, we should not exclude such a rather rare, but nevertheless still having some probability, case when OP actually made a discovery.  And sometimes entire teams of specialists cannot guess such a discovery.  For example, there is a mathematician named Perelman who proved the Poincaré conjecture.  And no one had been able to do this before, looking at whole groups of very strong mathematicians, for example at the Fields Institute.  All these mathematicians could not cope, but only Perelman managed it.  This could be the case with the original and unique algorithm that OP came up with, or maybe the solution to this problem came to him while he was sleeping...

Up until now, it seems that no gambling site has reached out to him. I guess, they have no interest on this as they are already contented for what they have in their system. If the OP has indeed solid system, he can pitch it in his jurisdiction where he can explain it face-to-face. I don't think he will get a serious offer over the net. Better contact gambling sites within his country or his nearby areas.

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August 02, 2024, 06:25:10 AM
 #169

Crypto gambling website representatives: please DM so that I can send you my CV. I am only responding to respected crypto gambling representatives here. I have many remarkable academic accomplishments, and looking to make a deal in exchange for my provably fair system.
The owner of this online crypto casino at Bitcointalk, they already have people who can be relied on and trusted, they have worked hard for years and have proven to be professional and fair in every way, but they need a long process to gain the trust of the casino, they have gone through challenges day after day.

If you come here to speak like a professional person and an expert in the field of gambling, you should first make your work history in the service department, openly, the casino owners here can consider you working at their casino, you don't show anything here come and talk, everyone can be like that, you need to be a beginner, who wants to take risks, nothing is in vain.

No matter how much we here advise OP to take all possible actions to implement in practice the algorithm that he invented, we should not exclude such a rather rare, but nevertheless still having some probability, case when OP actually made a discovery.  And sometimes entire teams of specialists cannot guess such a discovery.  For example, there is a mathematician named Perelman who proved the Poincaré conjecture.  And no one had been able to do this before, looking at whole groups of very strong mathematicians, for example at the Fields Institute.  All these mathematicians could not cope, but only Perelman managed it.  This could be the case with the original and unique algorithm that OP came up with, or maybe the solution to this problem came to him while he was sleeping...

Up until now, it seems that no gambling site has reached out to him. I guess, they have no interest on this as they are already contented for what they have in their system. If the OP has indeed solid system, he can pitch it in his jurisdiction where he can explain it face-to-face. I don't think he will get a serious offer over the net. Better contact gambling sites within his country or his nearby areas.
Most likely this is true. 

And by the way, the reason may also be that many gaming sites are simply afraid of exposing the fact that their gambling algorithms may be deliberately set up not entirely honestly and they may well contain some kind of “bugs” in the form of random numbers,  which with some frequency include a “special mode” of which these same casino bosses are well aware.  But naturally, the special mode slightly distorts the course of the game and, naturally, to the benefit of the casino and to the detriment of the players.

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 #170

I’ve read the replies since my last message. I find these (surprisingly) not to be shitposting, people have actually (in most cases) taken the time to understand the subject.

It is rather logical to think that well they trust their employees who worked hard for years on this rather than a « beginner » like me. Or others who say well there’s a small chance I discovered something, or that I should expose my system for free without any expectation of getting any reward from it.

All of these ignore that once I expose my system no one needs me anymore to implement it, and that such systems can’t be patented, and that all I ask for is some sort of agreement with the casino before exposing my system for free. My system solves a real world problem where a lot of (especially big gamblers) will no longer believe or have doubts they’re being cheated.

Anyway, I’ll still come here from time to time, who knows, someone might actually take me seriously at some point!

Here’s something new: I will pay the casino’s legal team their time to draft the agreement, up to 2500 dollars, payment upfront. I will soon create a new thread with the link to my wallet containing 2500 USDT, up for payment.
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September 17, 2024, 06:01:45 PM
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I’ve read the replies since my last message. I find these (surprisingly) not to be shitposting, people have actually (in most cases) taken the time to understand the subject.

It is rather logical to think that well they trust their employees who worked hard for years on this rather than a « beginner » like me. Or others who say well there’s a small chance I discovered something, or that I should expose my system for free without any expectation of getting any reward from it.

All of these ignore that once I expose my system no one needs me anymore to implement it, and that such systems can’t be patented, and that all I ask for is some sort of agreement with the casino before exposing my system for free. My system solves a real world problem where a lot of (especially big gamblers) will no longer believe or have doubts they’re being cheated.

Anyway, I’ll still come here from time to time, who knows, someone might actually take me seriously at some point!

Here’s something new: I will pay the casino’s legal team their time to draft the agreement, up to 2500 dollars, payment upfront. I will soon create a new thread with the link to my wallet containing 2500 USDT, up for payment.
Despite the mass of skeptical statements that your invention is fake and many BTT users do not believe that it is possible to come up with such an algorithm, I still continue to think that there is still a small chance that your invention contains something truly innovative and new that no one has come up with before.
And in this regard, I will specifically monitor how our forum colleagues will comment on the further course of events here in the topic.
Actually, in order to remind everyone that such a question has the right to a full discussion here on our forum. And I wish you successful contacts with representatives of various casinos.

And please report news in this topic.

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September 22, 2024, 05:35:22 PM
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I’ve read the replies since my last message. I find these (surprisingly) not to be shitposting, people have actually (in most cases) taken the time to understand the subject.

It is rather logical to think that well they trust their employees who worked hard for years on this rather than a « beginner » like me. Or others who say well there’s a small chance I discovered something, or that I should expose my system for free without any expectation of getting any reward from it.

All of these ignore that once I expose my system no one needs me anymore to implement it, and that such systems can’t be patented, and that all I ask for is some sort of agreement with the casino before exposing my system for free. My system solves a real world problem where a lot of (especially big gamblers) will no longer believe or have doubts they’re being cheated.

Anyway, I’ll still come here from time to time, who knows, someone might actually take me seriously at some point!

Here’s something new: I will pay the casino’s legal team their time to draft the agreement, up to 2500 dollars, payment upfront. I will soon create a new thread with the link to my wallet containing 2500 USDT, up for payment.
Despite the mass of skeptical statements that your invention is fake and many BTT users do not believe that it is possible to come up with such an algorithm, I still continue to think that there is still a small chance that your invention contains something truly innovative and new that no one has come up with before.
And in this regard, I will specifically monitor how our forum colleagues will comment on the further course of events here in the topic.
Actually, in order to remind everyone that such a question has the right to a full discussion here on our forum. And I wish you successful contacts with representatives of various casinos.

And please report news in this topic.

I am going in the path of patenting this. The Dutch lawyers were much more encouraging than the French ones. I have deposited my paper on i-depot (boip.int) number 148286. So I don’t know if this thread is still relevant. I’ll post this info on my other thread where I was offering money.
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September 24, 2024, 05:56:48 PM
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I’ve read the replies since my last message. I find these (surprisingly) not to be shitposting, people have actually (in most cases) taken the time to understand the subject.

It is rather logical to think that well they trust their employees who worked hard for years on this rather than a « beginner » like me. Or others who say well there’s a small chance I discovered something, or that I should expose my system for free without any expectation of getting any reward from it.

All of these ignore that once I expose my system no one needs me anymore to implement it, and that such systems can’t be patented, and that all I ask for is some sort of agreement with the casino before exposing my system for free. My system solves a real world problem where a lot of (especially big gamblers) will no longer believe or have doubts they’re being cheated.

Anyway, I’ll still come here from time to time, who knows, someone might actually take me seriously at some point!

Here’s something new: I will pay the casino’s legal team their time to draft the agreement, up to 2500 dollars, payment upfront. I will soon create a new thread with the link to my wallet containing 2500 USDT, up for payment.
Despite the mass of skeptical statements that your invention is fake and many BTT users do not believe that it is possible to come up with such an algorithm, I still continue to think that there is still a small chance that your invention contains something truly innovative and new that no one has come up with before.
And in this regard, I will specifically monitor how our forum colleagues will comment on the further course of events here in the topic.
Actually, in order to remind everyone that such a question has the right to a full discussion here on our forum. And I wish you successful contacts with representatives of various casinos.

And please report news in this topic.

I am going in the path of patenting this. The Dutch lawyers were much more encouraging than the French ones. I have deposited my paper on i-depot (boip.int) number 148286. So I don’t know if this thread is still relevant. I’ll post this info on my other thread where I was offering money.
Well, this is great news and if it is not too much trouble for you, then please let us all know how the patenting of your invention is progressing. And by the way, for our convenience, do not forget to also publish here a link to the topic where you are going to publish further news.

By the way, I continue to hope that you really did come up with some brilliant idea and everything will be fine with your invention.

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