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August 30, 2023, 09:07:45 AM
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From the point of view of mathematics, if we know that the victory is 100% guaranteed, we must bet all our money plus borrow as much money as possible to earn as much as possible. The problem is that reality is different from mathematical reasoning and loss can happen even with a supposedly 100% chance of winning. Therefore, sober-minded people will limit their risk in any case and will not play with borrowed money.
The reality will often be different than what was said before, where a 100% guaranteed win will be difficult to get. It's still profitable if we can still win, say 40%, but it's not worth doing if we lose it all. For this reason, we have to think rationally that getting a 100% guaranteed win is difficult, so we better keep placing as big bets as we can afford. By doing that, even if we lose, that amount won't make us regret it and be sad because it's the amount we can really afford.

But some people are tempted to hear offers of 100% guaranteed winning because they rarely get offers like that, so they will try to bet all in, plus borrow as much money from other people as possible. They really hope they can get a big win this time because they bet with big money. They don't predict what will happen if the bet is lost, and they lose all their money, including the borrowed money. Oh boy, they would be in very big trouble.

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August 30, 2023, 04:17:52 PM
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From the point of view of mathematics, if we know that the victory is 100% guaranteed, we must bet all our money plus borrow as much money as possible to earn as much as possible. The problem is that reality is different from mathematical reasoning and loss can happen even with a supposedly 100% chance of winning. Therefore, sober-minded people will limit their risk in any case and will not play with borrowed money.
The reality will often be different than what was said before, where a 100% guaranteed win will be difficult to get. It's still profitable if we can still win, say 40%, but it's not worth doing if we lose it all. For this reason, we have to think rationally that getting a 100% guaranteed win is difficult, so we better keep placing as big bets as we can afford. By doing that, even if we lose, that amount won't make us regret it and be sad because it's the amount we can really afford.

The profitability of a bet depends not only on the probability of guessing the outcome, but also on what the win multiplier is. For example, if we guess with a probability of only 1%, but the multiplier is x500, then we are in a huge plus.

But some people are tempted to hear offers of 100% guaranteed winning because they rarely get offers like that, so they will try to bet all in, plus borrow as much money from other people as possible. They really hope they can get a big win this time because they bet with big money. They don't predict what will happen if the bet is lost, and they lose all their money, including the borrowed money. Oh boy, they would be in very big trouble.

I think anyone who interacts with people (leads a socially active life) very often encounters such proposals. Fraudsters, advertisers, etc. always promise a lot. It seems to me that any adult should get used to weeding out such proposals immediately.

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August 30, 2023, 04:53:14 PM
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If it is a source that I really trust, I think I will invest all my spare money. Of course, this may change depending on my situation at the time, but it is not possible to say anything for sure. I don't think the bets will be sure, but if it was a sure thing I would take a big bet. What have I got to lose?
The only thing I will learn from this is not to trust anything even 100%.
If I had 10K dollars, yes I would bet it all, but I wouldn't take a loan because it's not in my personal opinion to do that with borrowed money. It doesn't make sense for me to take these bets with borrowed money.
To maximize my profit, I think I would tell my friends and acquaintances that this bet is a sure thing and that I would like to make some profit on my bet.

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August 30, 2023, 05:12:28 PM
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If someone told you a guaranteed sports bet that had a 100% chance of winning, how much would you bet on it?

If you had a $10,000 bankroll, would you go all in? We’re talking 100% can’t lose bet.

Would you take out a loan? How would you go about acquiring a large sum of money if you didn’t have the capital.

Let’s say the match is starting 24 hours from now, what would be your plan to maximize your profit?

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If you're 100% of it then betting all of it would be a good thing to do. A hundred percent means no risk of losing in comparison with just having high chances of winning; these are two different things. Bit if it is jist a subjective claim then  betting on it won't have a 100% guarantee so betting just a portion would be best in this instance. Taking a loan is not necessary, it'll just put you in more trouble, also being greedy won't put you to somewhere better. I do agree that it depends on that someonw who would ckaim a no chance of losing bet. Bottomline lies between a subjective claim and an assured statement. Asking for his assurance would be best as well and if he would be able to support that claim of his/her with facts, then going all out would be good but never to push you to put more into that bet.

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August 30, 2023, 05:35:45 PM
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If someone told you a guaranteed sports bet that had a 100% chance of winning, how much would you bet on it?

If you had a $10,000 bankroll, would you go all in? We’re talking 100% can’t lose bet.

Would you take out a loan? How would you go about acquiring a large sum of money if you didn’t have the capital.

Let’s say the match is starting 24 hours from now, what would be your plan to maximize your profit?

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If it is a 100% chance then why wouldn't I go all in on it?
But we all know that there is no such thing as 100% sure win in gambling, even those who have a small chance or what we call underdogs could win.
So if someone would tell me that there is a 100% chance to win in a bet or gambling I would just ignore it.



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August 30, 2023, 05:41:34 PM
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If someone told you a guaranteed sports bet that had a 100% chance of winning, how much would you bet on it?

If you had a $10,000 bankroll, would you go all in? We’re talking 100% can’t lose bet.

Would you take out a loan? How would you go about acquiring a large sum of money if you didn’t have the capital.

Let’s say the match is starting 24 hours from now, what would be your plan to maximize your profit?

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Well, first thing i would ask from you that how do you know it's 100%? Would i need to trust that friend on that or would i have confirmed it somehow? Would it be a rigged game? And even if it would be how could i be sure that i have been given accurate information about it?

If i knew or a fact i have 100% probability to win i obviously bet everything i have and would take high interest loan. But there's no such thing as knowing something 100%. This is a gambling we are talking about and anything can happen in a game or a fight what you are betting on. You don't know many things in your life that happens in 100% certainty, so how would you do that in gambling?

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August 31, 2023, 07:05:09 AM
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I would first of all see the source that has given me the tip about the game because there can never be a guaranteed bet unless a match has already been fixed someone from the inside knows about it and you have received the tip directly from that person so that you can be sure that it is not a joke or it has 100% guarantee of being right. Once that is done, then I will start thinking about how much I would like to place on that bet since I know I will win.

There is one more thing that one needs to make sure about, if you have been making normal bets on a sportsbook and you suddenly make a very high bet, that will surely be a red flag for the management and they can confiscate your funds and ban or block your account right at that moment.

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August 31, 2023, 07:45:48 AM
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I would first of all see the source that has given me the tip about the game because there can never be a guaranteed bet unless a match has already been fixed someone from the inside knows about it and you have received the tip directly from that person so that you can be sure that it is not a joke or it has 100% guarantee of being right. Once that is done, then I will start thinking about how much I would like to place on that bet since I know I will win.

There is one more thing that one needs to make sure about, if you have been making normal bets on a sportsbook and you suddenly make a very high bet, that will surely be a red flag for the management and they can confiscate your funds and ban or block your account right at that moment.
"guaranteed bets". There is no such thing as a guaranteed thing, unless you have an inside connection, which I would not recommend for obvious reasons. As you correctly pointed out, confirming the source is crucial. But consider, even if you have inside information, isn't that against the game's spirit?

Now, regarding bet amounts. Making a sudden, large bet is like showing up to a quiet dinner party with a marching band. Everyone is going to notice particularly the sportsbook management. And if you're too apparent, well, let's just say they'll kick you out without hesitation.

However, why would anyone consider taking such a risk? That is the essence of gambling: the unique adrenaline of uncertainty. Although... one could argue that winning is the true objective. Anyway, play it safe, be intelligent, and always, always trust your instincts - or don't, I could be incorrect.

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August 31, 2023, 03:01:59 PM
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I would first of all see the source that has given me the tip about the game because there can never be a guaranteed bet unless a match has already been fixed someone from the inside knows about it and you have received the tip directly from that person so that you can be sure that it is not a joke or it has 100% guarantee of being right. Once that is done, then I will start thinking about how much I would like to place on that bet since I know I will win.

There is one more thing that one needs to make sure about, if you have been making normal bets on a sportsbook and you suddenly make a very high bet, that will surely be a red flag for the management and they can confiscate your funds and ban or block your account right at that moment.
"guaranteed bets". There is no such thing as a guaranteed thing, unless you have an inside connection, which I would not recommend for obvious reasons. As you correctly pointed out, confirming the source is crucial. But consider, even if you have inside information, isn't that against the game's spirit?

Now, regarding bet amounts. Making a sudden, large bet is like showing up to a quiet dinner party with a marching band. Everyone is going to notice particularly the sportsbook management. And if you're too apparent, well, let's just say they'll kick you out without hesitation.

However, why would anyone consider taking such a risk? That is the essence of gambling: the unique adrenaline of uncertainty. Although... one could argue that winning is the true objective. Anyway, play it safe, be intelligent, and always, always trust your instincts - or don't, I could be incorrect.


If the odds are too far away from each other, then sports bookies will certainly know what you're up to or at least they will make an assumption judging from the bet you've taken because you're siding with the heavy underdog. You know, a huge bet with the impossible team that looks so clear that came out of nowhere.
Regarding to your question if it's not against the game's spirit? Big time rollers who are only in for the money and not the sport itself will certainly go with it without thinking twice.

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~snip~
The profitability of a bet depends not only on the probability of guessing the outcome, but also on what the win multiplier is. For example, if we guess with a probability of only 1%, but the multiplier is x500, then we are in a huge plus.
That's obvious, but we will have difficulty getting the multiplier. And of the many people who play, maybe some people can get a big multiplier but can't even reach maxwin. Maxwin only comes to people who are so lucky that they deserve it.

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I think anyone who interacts with people (leads a socially active life) very often encounters such proposals. Fraudsters, advertisers, etc. always promise a lot. It seems to me that any adult should get used to weeding out such proposals immediately.
They don't need to try it even though the promotion is very attractive, especially if it is from a casino we don't know about or even a shady casino. If we still want to try it with all the risks that can occur, we must use the money we can afford so that the risk of losing the money could be better.

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August 31, 2023, 03:47:50 PM
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I would first of all see the source that has given me the tip about the game because there can never be a guaranteed bet unless a match has already been fixed someone from the inside knows about it and you have received the tip directly from that person so that you can be sure that it is not a joke or it has 100% guarantee of being right. Once that is done, then I will start thinking about how much I would like to place on that bet since I know I will win.

It's true that we all know this about gambling that whenever we make a bet, there's no guarantee for winning on it and therefore we are taking the risk of either winning or loosing, also if it were to be true, why didn't he take the first advantage in betting it than bringing it forward for his friend, some things are not easily convincing enough due to the circumstances around, we should not be decieved.

There is one more thing that one needs to make sure about, if you have been making normal bets on a sportsbook and you suddenly make a very high bet, that will surely be a red flag for the management and they can confiscate your funds and ban or block your account right at that moment.

I think this depends on their their ToS on the gambling platform, they would have disallow the function instead of placing a restriction on any gambler after giving an attempt.

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If the bet had a 100% chance of winning, I'd definitely go all in. However, I'd still have that lingering feeling of a potential loss even if the bet is guaranteed.

Events in the future aren't ever truly guaranteed at 100%, IMO anything could change. OK To be honest, I'd aim to wager as much as possible but not absolutely everything. I prefer to avoid potential trouble in case that something impossible occurs. So I'd likely use the money that I could afford to lose only for that one specific bet.
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August 31, 2023, 04:17:28 PM
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If the bet had a 100% chance of winning, I'd definitely go all in. However, I'd still have that lingering feeling of a potential loss even if the bet is guaranteed.

Events in the future aren't ever truly guaranteed at 100%, IMO anything could change. OK To be honest, I'd aim to wager as much as possible but not absolutely everything. I prefer to avoid potential trouble in case that something impossible occurs. So I'd likely use the money that I could afford to lose only for that one specific bet.


There’s really no 100% guaranteed win bet but since this is a hypothetical question then you should consider is as guaranteed which in realistically speaking, I will go all-in including loans to increase my bet size since this is one time opportunity of your life.

Why the need to worried if the bet is guaranteed? We are not talking about real life bets here. I think the main point on this thread if will user follow human behavior for doing all in bet or will still doubt in the presence of opportunity like this.

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If someone told you a guaranteed sports bet that had a 100% chance of winning, how much would you bet on it?
LOL. If you think that any sports bet has a 100% chance of winning then why think how much money we need to bet. Until you die, you will never get a 100% guarantee when involved in gambling. It's called betting, how can there be a full percentage for a win.

Would you take out a loan? How would you go about acquiring a large sum of money if you didn’t have the capital.
Not for me and maybe it's up to others, loans and gambling are two issues that need to be responsible to get involved in. So far, have you thought about this impact?

Let’s say the match is starting 24 hours from now, what would be your plan to maximize your profit?
Don't have any plans and only want to bet when I have confidence in winning each bet?

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@NAPK1NS_RA3, what happened to your prediction of this "guaranteed bet"?

the time is now 12:49pm ET, the match starts in about 11 minutes



these are guaranteed bets but I can’t say how I know, expect plenty of goals and little defence

You locked the thread too soon, so we couldn't comment on the match result.  Wink

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August 31, 2023, 08:15:21 PM
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If the bet had a 100% chance of winning, I'd definitely go all in. However, I'd still have that lingering feeling of a potential loss even if the bet is guaranteed.

Events in the future aren't ever truly guaranteed at 100%, IMO anything could change. OK To be honest, I'd aim to wager as much as possible but not absolutely everything. I prefer to avoid potential trouble in case that something impossible occurs. So I'd likely use the money that I could afford to lose only for that one specific bet.


There’s really no 100% guaranteed win bet but since this is a hypothetical question then you should consider is as guaranteed which in realistically speaking, I will go all-in including loans to increase my bet size since this is one time opportunity of your life.

Why the need to worried if the bet is guaranteed? We are not talking about real life bets here. I think the main point on this thread if will user follow human behavior for doing all in bet or will still doubt in the presence of opportunity like this.
You would really be always having those kind of doubts considering we do know on how reality works and on how it do moves on which gambling is certain that no 100% assurance of winning unless if it is really that been
fixed but just like on what most people been saying here that this kind of information isnt something that you could really get easily and on which that certain poster above me ^^ showing OP's recent bet picks
and locking up the thread so that people cant make a comment or post in case it would be a losing bet?  Grin Clever one.

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August 31, 2023, 08:30:16 PM
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If someone told you a guaranteed sports bet that had a 100% chance of winning, how much would you bet on it?

If you had a $10,000 bankroll, would you go all in? We’re talking 100% can’t lose bet.

Would you take out a loan? How would you go about acquiring a large sum of money if you didn’t have the capital.

Let’s say the match is starting 24 hours from now, what would be your plan to maximize your profit?

Asking for a friend  Wink

Wait, what? Is there anything like a 100% guarantee in sports betting, not even the sports bookies will tell me to go all in and will do that, the same way there are chances of winning so there are high chances of losing, and if you lose, you will have no one t blame but yourself, and you know what, whenever I have a bankroll on $10,000, I will never use that on a bet, life is not all about betting, I will take my chances on other aspects of life; Bettin $10k for a bet is not even fun to me, that's more like a stupid idea.

There are insiders that give hint to their client.  They have information about a fights that are getting rigged.  Though I can't prove it that way, but I believe that there is something the same happening inside a league.  Those that have authority, influence and money can manipulate the result of the game reason why there had been an endless rumor about several sports game being rigged.  Anyway, this is hypothetical questions so being realistic about the event is out of the question.

In a real clause, whenever I hear anyone say a bet is 100% guaranteed to win, I do ignore them but in this situation, I will give it a try with another shot at funds that I don't need that time, perhaps max is going to be $100 and if that happens, I will be giving it a shot when there is a called but I wouldn't raise my wager, better to play safe and win for tomorrow or wager all your capital and go home without any means of having another money to play the next day.

But as I said this is hypothetical question, so it doesn't need to be entirely true since the question already present itself as not possible and is a matter of "just in case".
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August 31, 2023, 08:46:24 PM
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If someone told you a guaranteed sports bet that had a 100% chance of winning, how much would you bet on it?

If you had a $10,000 bankroll, would you go all in? We’re talking 100% can’t lose bet.

Would you take out a loan? How would you go about acquiring a large sum of money if you didn’t have the capital.

Let’s say the match is starting 24 hours from now, what would be your plan to maximize your profit?

Asking for a friend  Wink
This is a mind tempting question because this alone can test our ability to make decisions. The question can also test our greediness level and see if we can make proper decisions in time of challenges. If this eventually be a scenerio which I am involved, I would rather us like $100 to make the bet so that I can weigh my risk to reward ratio than using big fund to make the bet and the worse now happens. I have been in similar conditions like this before and I knew what I passed through because of my greediness to bet with funds I can't afford to lose.

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August 31, 2023, 09:03:11 PM
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Knowing fully well that there is no guarantee bet, and also there is nothing like sure odds, so if anyone is so convinced about his bet and wants men to risk an amount on it, I will try not to put my two feet, so I will only stake an amount I can afford to lose and that is all about that because I have hard several of experiences of those sure games and sometime some of them will even go as far as asking for a fee before giving out such sure odds.
So the ultimate goal is to win and in winning there is a high level of luck and there is nothing like sure games, any game can either lose or win, so it can go both ways for games.

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August 31, 2023, 10:21:26 PM
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Would I have known that it is a guaranteed win? The fact that you'd have to trust the person's best intentions about it is already a dealbreaker for me, but at the same time I may humor the idea especially if it's someone who was able to prove that what they are trying to say is indeed true. In which case, I may gamble all my bankroll for that bet and take my winnings, however high they must be. Losses are off the table anyway and the only thing that's preventing me from getting that win is the confidence to trust in someone I barely know. Otherwise if they weren't able to prove their credibility by showing me past eventualities or at least evidences that lead me to think that they are correct, I'm inclined to not believe them and not gamble. I still would humor the idea and I may put in a couple hundred dollars on it though.

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