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August 30, 2023, 04:51:45 AM
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Everyone wields different powers when it comes to business. Some say that cryptocurrency prices can be manipulated by wealthy individuals. Despite being decentralized, it seems that price movements can be controlled by specific entities.

So, in your opinion, can everything related to money in this world be manipulated? For instance, do you believe that the value of the USD or the largest stock market in the US can be manipulated by a few individuals?

I don't think any person or group can manipulate the bitcoin price. If that happens, it must be a big conspiracy involving many of the world's political elites. Just imagine, who has 540,000,000,000 in cash? That is the marketcap amount of bitcoin. If you want to set a bitcoin price, you probably need to own at least 30% of the bitcoin marketcap. It's not something that's easy my friends, to manage decentralized bitcoin prices. It's different with fiat, even though the market cap is also very large, but it's centralized, they can manipulate bank interest rates, it's easier
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August 30, 2023, 05:38:03 AM
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What kind of people are capable of market manipulation?

The kind of people with a lot of money or resources. I once spoke to a mega farmer and he explained to us how he and a group of his friends, manipulate the grain price. They will store grain in massive silos, until the price goes up and when the price is high enough... then he will take the grain to the market and sell at a premium price.  Roll Eyes

Also, take the Gold price..... there are Gold syndicates that are doing the same with the Gold price... just to keep the price stable and constantly increasing over time.

People with a lot of money (Fiat whales) are using the Stock markets as their playing field and they play with portfolio managers that are playing with investors money to manipulate markets.  Angry

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August 30, 2023, 05:53:26 AM
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Everyone wields different powers when it comes to business. Some say that cryptocurrency prices can be manipulated by wealthy individuals. Despite being decentralized, it seems that price movements can be controlled by specific entities.

So, in your opinion, can everything related to money in this world be manipulated? For instance, do you believe that the value of the USD or the largest stock market in the US can be manipulated by a few individuals?

What kind of people are capable of market manipulation?

If it is very broad in scope. Of course, open only one item and what is certain is that all are interrelated with supply and demand. If you are worried about investing large amounts of capital into long-term positions that may face market manipulation, you can always choose to trade short-term and one more thing avoid pumps and dumps by creating your own strategy and not being lured in by claims that seem too good to become true thereby helping to protect profits and limit losses.

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August 30, 2023, 06:19:22 AM
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Everyone wields different powers when it comes to business. Some say that cryptocurrency prices can be manipulated by wealthy individuals. Despite being decentralized, it seems that price movements can be controlled by specific entities.

So, in your opinion, can everything related to money in this world be manipulated? For instance, do you believe that the value of the USD or the largest stock market in the US can be manipulated by a few individuals?

What kind of people are capable of market manipulation?
Market manipulation has become an open secret that we no longer need to question its existence. Regardless of who did it, no one knows for sure. But of course they must be people or organizations or institutions that have very large capital. Or in the sense that they have very broad powers. But market manipulation also does not always happen by certain people or institutions. Sometimes a person who is good at causing a stir in the news media and spreading strange news that makes people panic can also be called market manipulation. The point is market manipulation does exist. But we don't know for sure who and how they run it.

However, what we most often encounter today is market manipulation, which is always accompanied by positive or negative news appearing on the internet that creates market hype or otherwise frightens market players.
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August 30, 2023, 08:57:41 AM
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While decentralization is a concept in cryptocurrencies, the influence of big players can't be ignored. The same goes for traditional markets; they're vulnerable to manipulation too. Those with significant resources and insider knowledge can impact prices and trends.
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August 30, 2023, 09:09:00 AM
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The market never changes through a certain person. Maybe if a person or organization sells a lot of a certain coin in the market, the market immediately gets dumped a little, but later the market recovers to the extent of the dumping, so a certain person or organization never changes the entire market. The market changes a lot when there is good news or bad news about a particular coin in the market. A few days ago there was a sudden change in the Bitcoin market which led many to speculate that SpaceX had sold a significant amount of BTC causing the price of BTC to fall so low, but now that the market has returned to a positive state, we will explain in a short time. This is why the market changes so much.

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August 30, 2023, 09:20:46 AM
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Manipulation is something that cannot be separated from the world of economics. Rich companies/individuals usually manipulate the market to achieve their goals, whether it is to increase their company's exposure, increase the value of a crypto, etc. Even the richest people in the world today often carry out acts of manipulation in order to increase their wealth or bring down their business opponents and this is normal in the economic world.

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August 30, 2023, 09:53:57 AM
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Yes for centralized coins because the team and creator are holding their premined coins, they can also add or decrease the supply anytime they want. Not to mention they can run away easily when they've make a lot money and they will create a new altcoin.

Despite being decentralized, it seems that price movements can be controlled by specific entities.
Yeah it's because of stupid people are relying on that centralized entity about their investment decision, when this entity buy Bitcoin, they will buy too and make the price increase, and vice versa.

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August 30, 2023, 10:07:17 AM
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The market never changes through a certain person. Maybe if a person or organization sells a lot of a certain coin in the market, the market immediately gets dumped a little, but later the market recovers to the extent of the dumping, so a certain person or organization never changes the entire market. The market changes a lot when there is good news or bad news about a particular coin in the market. A few days ago there was a sudden change in the Bitcoin market which led many to speculate that SpaceX had sold a significant amount of BTC causing the price of BTC to fall so low, but now that the market has returned to a positive state, we will explain in a short time. This is why the market changes so much.
While a single entity might, for a moment, cause a ripple in the market, it's absolutely naive to think they command the tides. Markets have their own minds. What you said about a temporary dip followed by recovery? It's always been this way, always!.The strength of a market isn't determined by an Elon Musk tweet or even a giant sale from SpaceX. No, no. It’s the collective force of the players in the game

Now, as for the recent Bitcoin upheaval... it's a textbook case! An old dance, but with new partners. The price went down; then it went up. It’s cyclical, folks. Sure, news influences the market, always has, but to say SpaceX or any one entity has the power to permanently affect it? That's giving them too much credit! It's all about the bigger picture, the grander scheme of things

If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, does it make a sound? If SpaceX sells some Bitcoin and the price temporarily dips, did it ever really matter in the long run? The market will always find its way, trust me. Always

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August 30, 2023, 10:33:00 AM
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It is not completely manipulable in Bitcoin, but for altcoins, people can really manipulate it, but for Bitcoin, it is just that it can touch the price, like what happened when Elon sold his Bitcoin holdings and the price dropped, but again, it is not completely manipulable as that is really the cycle of the market. There are really big whales in Bitcoin that probably do the same, but again, they can't control the price. But in fiat, the government and banks can control it, which is almost the same with other stuff like foods, where they can increase the price of whatever they want.
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Everyone wields different powers when it comes to business. Some say that cryptocurrency prices can be manipulated by wealthy individuals. Despite being decentralized, it seems that price movements can be controlled by specific entities.

So, in your opinion, can everything related to money in this world be manipulated? For instance, do you believe that the value of the USD or the largest stock market in the US can be manipulated by a few individuals?

What kind of people are capable of market manipulation?

A single person couldn't have a huge impact to the market if he tried to manipulate it even he put a large amount it wouldn't even a big changes in the market. Most of them are in groups, institute like the government and the elite people that can have a lot of capital to invest or dump in the market, most likely it would affect the market that's why people follow them in their social media accounts or having a telegram for them to take advantage whenever they started to call a dump or invest. Just like Elon trying to hype meme coins and people were also taking advantage by just investing on them. In my opinion, everything that related to the money can be manipulated but not all of them can be control just like Bitcoin since its decentralized that's why it's good thing to invest at it.

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August 30, 2023, 11:04:39 AM
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Everyone wields different powers when it comes to business. Some say that cryptocurrency prices can be manipulated by wealthy individuals. Despite being decentralized, it seems that price movements can be controlled by specific entities.

So, in your opinion, can everything related to money in this world be manipulated? For instance, do you believe that the value of the USD or the largest stock market in the US can be manipulated by a few individuals?

What kind of people are capable of market manipulation?

Manipulation is a form of behavior that we define as using others for their own benefit. In other words, it is a behavior used wherever people are, whether in crypto or in the social environment.

Manipulating the economy is acting in a way that impresses other people in order to make more money. Many celebrities do this today. At the same time, manipulation is a difficult case to prove. People who defend themselves in lawsuits say that what they are doing is not manipulation, they are just telling their ideas to others because they think that they will gain profit. Because it is the individual's choice whether to follow these ideas or not, cases often end in favor of the manipulator.

I think everything in this world that has to do with money can be manipulated. The important thing here is who will manipulate it.
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I would not say it is about absolute control over securities, stocks and crypto-currencies, It is more about influence on the sentiment of the market. That is why sometimes you see some FOMO or FUD campaigns are created, because in order to successfully manipulate the market one does not only need to have a significant amount of money or the said asset but also change the way of thinking of those who are also big investors or even retailer investors, so your movements can be amplified by millions of people who are not aware of what it is going on.

Assuming a whale wanted to decrease the amount of Bitcoin, it would continent for them for invest some thousands in creating a FUD campaign, so when the selling times comes, the initial drop they could have caused gets multiplied by the idea already sown in the min of the regular Bitcoin speculator.

I think this indeed happens in all major markets around the planet.

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USD and other fiat money is definitely manipulated since it's controlled by the government and they need their currency to be in good value. Cryptocurrency, most of altcoins can be easily manipulated since they are mostly centralized, the central hold most of the coins and they can do anything they want with that. Bitcoin is decentralized so it's difficult to be manipulated, not impossible but the very difficult.

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August 30, 2023, 12:12:18 PM
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Everyone wields different powers when it comes to business. Some say that cryptocurrency prices can be manipulated by wealthy individuals. Despite being decentralized, it seems that price movements can be controlled by specific entities.

So, in your opinion, can everything related to money in this world be manipulated? For instance, do you believe that the value of the USD or the largest stock market in the US can be manipulated by a few individuals?

What kind of people are capable of market manipulation?

There are different forms in which the crypto market can be easily manipulated and most of the time, only Altcoins do this except for bitcoin, even the ones that you see with prefix of DEFi all around their names all do this habit of market manipulation and all depends on the distribution of the coins in supply and the total supply.

-When half of the circulating supply of a coin is in the hands of one or two people, it is always easy to do whatever they want, they can manipulate the coins with the little stablecoin in their possession, drag the price to what they want and then sell everything to exit the project completely, the few buyers will be forever waiting for other victims, they may get lucky or they will remain in that lost forever.

-When the team have both circulating supply and the rest of the supply and all under their care, they can do whatever they like, especially when they comes to a disagreement between them, they can offload the coin on the market which can plunge the price of the token.

To avoid this, avoid altcoins and buy only bitcoin or you can do your research to see how coins are distributed among people before you buy any of them, you can also check website analytics that gives updates on how tokens are been unlocked by different projects.

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Is market manipulation a common occurrence everywhere?

Manipulation is an integral part when it comes to finance and investing.  you don't need to worry or doubt, just try to put yourself in that position. If you had a lot of money and a lot of power, would you try to manipulate the market?  i bet there's none of us who wouldn't do it if given the chance, so let's face it, any financial market is subject to manipulation.  as for cryptocurrencies, I believe this is a manipulated market largely because it is so small, unregulated and a free market...It would be naive to think that it moves according to supply and demand.

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Market manipulation can happen in both stocks & cryptocurrencies but it's important to know that not all market activity is manipulative. While there have been instances of manipulation such as pump and dump schemes or spoofing they are rare & often illegal. Regulators & exchanges take measures to detect and prevent manipulation & increased transparency in the financial markets helps to minimise its impact. One of the reasons the SEC hates crypto is because of manipulation but then again Congress are one of the worst inside traders around in regular stocks & markets.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesbusinesscouncil/2022/02/24/is-your-company-stock-being-manipulated-what-executives-should-look-for/?sh=54bfc3f52c77

On every occasion, there inevitably emerges individuals who exploit specific circumstances to generate greater financial gains. This essentially means that all markets, including stocks, bonds, and currency, can be manipulated by anyone wielding economic power or positional authority.

Esteemed top-tier exchangers, with their high repute, are also capable of crafting fictitious order books and altering candlestick movements, particularly within centralized systems they implement. Numerous practices involve diverting legal pathways through the influence of money, especially within developing nations. This implies that reshaping market trajectories through financial means is also plausible.

In my opinion, individuals possessing immense wealth wield the capacity to engage in virtually unrestricted actions. Moreover, those occupying pivotal roles within relevant business sectors also bear significant influence. A notable example would be the apex stock exchange. Furthermore, individuals of high standing, universally revered, can serve as triggers for market manipulation.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesbusinesscouncil/2022/02/24/is-your-company-stock-being-manipulated-what-executives-should-look-for/?sh=54bfc3f52c77

On every occasion, there inevitably emerges individuals who exploit specific circumstances to generate greater financial gains. This essentially means that all markets, including stocks, bonds, and currency, can be manipulated by anyone wielding economic power or positional authority.

Esteemed top-tier exchangers, with their high repute, are also capable of crafting fictitious order books and altering candlestick movements, particularly within centralized systems they implement. Numerous practices involve diverting legal pathways through the influence of money, especially within developing nations. This implies that reshaping market trajectories through financial means is also plausible.

In my opinion, individuals possessing immense wealth wield the capacity to engage in virtually unrestricted actions. Moreover, those occupying pivotal roles within relevant business sectors also bear significant influence. A notable example would be the apex stock exchange. Furthermore, individuals of high standing, universally revered, can serve as triggers for market manipulation.
It cannot be denied that markets can be manipulated by those who have strong enough financial power, but this is not a common occurrence because most markets have rules, regulations and supervisory institutions that work to prevent and overcome manipulative activities in order to maintain market efficiency by respective state authorities for the stock market.
Acts of manipulation are illegal acts that harm many people, of course this will always be anticipated even though there are still some bad actors who succeed in doing it.
So the point is don't influence and look bad at these things because in my opinion being manipulated is not a common thing to happen.



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August 30, 2023, 01:46:00 PM
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So, in your opinion, can everything related to money in this world be manipulated? For instance, do you believe that the value of the USD or the largest stock market in the US can be manipulated by a few individuals?

What kind of people are capable of market manipulation?

The whales are the types of individuals that have the amount of money to manipulate the market, sometimes they carryout this act independently  while other times the combined their forces together to pump or dump the price of different cryptocurency projects and whenever they do that affect the market gets a reaction from day traders and the market continue dumping or pumping depending on what was the action of the whales.

When it comes to trading, everything can be manipulated and this includes Bitcoin because the more the coins are saturated with some elite groups of members the higher their chances of manipulating the market but their manipulation doesn't last very long in the market.

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