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September 06, 2023, 09:57:57 PM
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That is my future plan, to invest into another asset that will give me passive income. However, with my present economic status, I know it will be harder for me to make it happen. So my focus is still into bitcoin and maximizing my profits on it. And perhaps I will also start learning how these stocks or gold investments may be profitable in time. That way, when I’ve gained the courage and confidence to invest, of course with good amount of capital, I can easily take some risk and expect better profits.

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September 06, 2023, 09:59:26 PM
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investing in bitcoin is the easiest way for all people to grow their money, it doesn't need much money to start. real estate or other renting business are not for all people. there is a huge entry barrier which only rich people can pass through it, also there is operating cost for that which can lead to financial lost.

Maybe, you can say it is easy for these crypto users. But for regular people who don't want to get involved in this market,
they have other options to go to rather than invest in a very volatile market.
Real-estate or other businesses may require good amount of money, but if you invest in jewelries, you may need smaller amount
as well as it is easy to handle as you can secure its storage in your home. Gold jewelries that you can easily pawn when you badly need your money.
I believe, that's one of my options when it comes to tangible assets which you need smaller amount of funds to use with.
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September 06, 2023, 10:05:20 PM
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investing in bitcoin is the easiest way for all people to grow their money, it doesn't need much money to start. real estate or other renting business are not for all people. there is a huge entry barrier which only rich people can pass through it, also there is operating cost for that which can lead to financial lost.
I don't really agree with this.
Even though it is true that if we really believe to be in bitcoin then we will definitely get profit in it but saying this is easy is something wrong. Being in bitcoin is not as easy as imagined because this is not just buying and getting profit directly because the process that is passed will definitely be much heavier than previously imagined.
For people who have never felt how the atmospere is in bitcoin will definitely say that this is easy and the profits will come by themselves but if we are already in bitcoin in the end things like that will not be as easy as initial expectations.
Need a strong mentality and high confidence so that we can achieve the desired goals and expectations and this will not be easy.

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September 07, 2023, 04:43:57 AM
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There is a halving coming next year to which many people who know and have bitcoins have set a target of the amount they hope to have in their holding by the time the bull run begins. I like to know if with this knowledge of bitcoin halving coming, if anyone is investing in anything other than bitcoins. I do not mean alt-coin but things like Real Estate, stocks, bonds etc. I know that Real Estate is good to invest in, but asides real estate, what else are you risking the money you should to invest more in bitcoins on?
Agriculture.
I think a whole lot of people underestimate how much farming cab transform lives and to get reasonable result out of Agriculture,  one needs a huge capital and I think this high capital is one hindering factor for Agriculture.
The only suggestions I tell people when been asked about physical investment is Agriculture and though I'm a big fan of real estate,  I always recommend agriculture  for people who want a stream flowing income.
Believe me or not, agriculture  has helped in the past and is still doing same now and right from creation, agriculture  has been one of the oldest occupation and uptill now, it is  still in thread because no matter one's class in the society  they need food and good will only come from farming(agriculture).

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September 07, 2023, 06:19:31 AM
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investing in bitcoin is the easiest way for all people to grow their money, it doesn't need much money to start. real estate or other renting business are not for all people. there is a huge entry barrier which only rich people can pass through it, also there is operating cost for that which can lead to financial lost.

Investing in bitcoin is not the easiest thing at all and in fact, it's the hardest thing to do if you know what you are doing. I don't know for you, but taking decision to invest in bitcoin required boldness and lot of consideration knowing how volatile it can be. Yes, it doesn't require lot of money to start compare to others you mentioned but it is more riskier as well. No investment is risk free but real estate and other physical investments is minimal unless natural disaster occurs.

The reason why many people struggles with crypto investment is because that's all they have ongoing, the moment the bears take over it will be hard for them to survive, that's why we see some people going back into their investment and selling some just so that they can eat and survive.

Does this mean that people risk all they have in crypto? Apart from traders who engage in daily trading to make some earning, is there investor who does that? I think investment is for a long time no matter the market conditions since you already have a set target and the money is what you can afford to lose. If you are struggling to eat or survive with other things then you should know that you don't need investment but what you need is improvement before you think of investing.

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September 07, 2023, 07:33:08 AM
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Honestly, I am planning to withdraw as much as possible from other investments and then switch its process to bitcoin and a few altcoins. I know the market is not guaranteed but since the birth of bitcoin the 4-year cycle always made huge bull runs during the halving and after the halving year.

Local stocks here are performing badly and some of them are even worse than the altcoin market. Real estate is the most stable and reliable in my country but it is slow moving which tempted me at times to even sell my house and then put some of the amount into crypto. It's not going to hurt me since I love moving from place to place.

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September 07, 2023, 08:02:22 AM
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investing in bitcoin is the easiest way for all people to grow their money, it doesn't need much money to start. real estate or other renting business are not for all people. there is a huge entry barrier which only rich people can pass through it, also there is operating cost for that which can lead to financial lost.

Investing in bitcoin is not the easiest thing at all and in fact, it's the hardest thing to do if you know what you are doing. I don't know for you, but taking decision to invest in bitcoin required boldness and lot of consideration knowing how volatile it can be. Yes, it doesn't require lot of money to start compare to others you mentioned but it is more riskier as well. No investment is risk free but real estate and other physical investments is minimal unless natural disaster occurs.

The reason why many people struggles with crypto investment is because that's all they have ongoing, the moment the bears take over it will be hard for them to survive, that's why we see some people going back into their investment and selling some just so that they can eat and survive.

Does this mean that people risk all they have in crypto? Apart from traders who engage in daily trading to make some earning, is there investor who does that? I think investment is for a long time no matter the market conditions since you already have a set target and the money is what you can afford to lose. If you are struggling to eat or survive with other things then you should know that you don't need investment but what you need is improvement before you think of investing.

I like your point regarding not focusing on investment when in a situation where income can barely provide for food and household needs. More often than not, a lot of the members here are too focused on increasing their investments and relying on crypto investment to even remember that there are more important things to consider. How can an individual invest if the money they have isn't even enough to support their needs for food and utilities? I also find it worrying that people are actually risking everything they have in crypto, even going as far as loaning money just to make an investment. It seems as if they have forgotten that any investment has risks and crypto investment specifically is volatile. This is why I fully emphasize that we should only invest what we are prepared to lose and only invest a good percentage of what we are earning or having as a stable income. I also fully support the idea that one should need to ensure that they have a stable source of income before making an investment.

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September 07, 2023, 11:02:51 AM
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I have bitcoin, some alts & a couple of real estate properties. I am not interested in diversifying into anything else. The majority of my net worth is in bitcoin & I intend to keep it that way. The current price will look like chumps change in a couple of years.

And some alts. I think that investing in some alts is a good idea. It doesn't have to be a big investment, depending on someone's possibilities, but setting aside 5% (more or less) for some interesting projects can pay off in the long run. And there are some good projects around that have a nice potential. In every bull run some new alt makes incredible progress.
Indeed, I do not recommend anyone to invest in altcoins as they are riskier than bitcoin, but it would not be so bad if we just invest a small part of our capital in them. Although altcoins have great risks, if we choose the right coin, it is clear that its profits will be very significant compared to bitcoin. Many people only focus on bitcoin and think that all altcoins are useless, which is really a waste because they are missing out on bigger opportunities.

We invest in cryptocurrencies to make profits, so we should not be too stubborn and ignore opportunities outside of bitcoin. As long as we invest a small amount, it will not cause too much damage to us.

There's nothing wrong to invest at altcoin it would really depends on the coin you would invest with, cause for me I've invested in altcoin before but only for a quick-flip it's not much but I've still profit. But still it's not advisable for a long term investment due to its volatility is random like it really depends on the project some would literally rugpull it. Well I agree that maybe your spare capital or money maybe you could try small amount first for your own experience to altcoins if it suits for you so you can compare it to Bitcoin, what I mean is that you can make your own strategy with these coins. Still if you want to secure just stick with BTC.

Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with altcoins but it's confusing how many people consider them to be trash. If we need security, an asset, a currency of the future, then bitcoin is the choice. But if we are here for profit, then altcoins are an opportunity worth trying, just like those who took the risk of investing in bitcoin when the price was below 1 USD. We want great success, we need to step out of our comfort zone.

Long-term investment with altcoins, I think ETH will also be a good choice, the rest should only be used for speculation, do not put your trust in any altcoin projects, there is no technology associated with them, they are just empty promises. Bitcoin should still be the bulk of our portfolio because its safety and returns aren't too bad.

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September 07, 2023, 11:07:36 AM
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Maybe, you can say it is easy for these crypto users. But for regular people who don't want to get involved in this market,
they have other options to go to rather than invest in a very volatile market.
Real-estate or other businesses may require good amount of money, but if you invest in jewelries, you may need smaller amount
as well as it is easy to handle as you can secure its storage in your home. Gold jewelries that you can easily pawn when you badly need your money.
I believe, that's one of my options when it comes to tangible assets which you need smaller amount of funds to use with.
As soon as you buy new gold jewelry, they will immediately lose part of their value, because you will not be able to sell them at the same price as you bought in the store. If you try to sell them at a pawnshop, they will accept them much cheaper, so you will need some kind of time to keep them so that you can eventually sell them at a pawn shop for the same price as you bought them at the store.

In addition, you buy in a store and pay for the product, for the work of a jeweler, and the pawnshop will often evaluate the product as scrap and will not take into account the stones that are in the product, that is, the actual weight will be taken into account even less. Therefore, I consider investment in jewelry not the most reasonable.

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My main portfolio is always about cryptocurrencies but I also love to trade on our national stock market. My favorite things to invest are bigger companies (top 30) and funds run by independent organizations or banks. I am living in second world type of country with great growth so funds are doing so good they generally pass beyond inflation levels which is awesome. I also invest in real estate whenever I find chance to take cheaper rate loans from banks.
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We don't know whether Bitcoin will halve or double in value in the next year. If we had known this in advance, we all could have made much more profit by investing. If you know for sure that the Bitcoin market will halve in the next year then you should never invest in Bitcoin. Anything can happen in the market and no one can predict the market that is why so much investment is made in the market. Everyone takes some chances and then invests. No investor wants his investment to suffer but due to market volatility sometimes things happen beyond our expectations. Since there is no opportunity to know the market in advance, we have to take risks and hope for the best. If we always think that the market will fall in half after we invest then we will never invest. We must invest boldly and take risks.
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Honestly, I am planning to withdraw as much as possible from other investments and then switch its process to bitcoin and a few altcoins. I know the market is not guaranteed but since the birth of bitcoin the 4-year cycle always made huge bull runs during the halving and after the halving year.

Local stocks here are performing badly and some of them are even worse than the altcoin market. Real estate is the most stable and reliable in my country but it is slow moving which tempted me at times to even sell my house and then put some of the amount into crypto. It's not going to hurt me since I love moving from place to place.
To be honest it's not right when you try to attract more altcoin investments so that later everything will be transferred to bitcoins. If the existing scenario goes well then thankfully you have the opportunity to switch it to bitcoin, then what happens if the scenario doesn't go according to our wishes. For me it is better to take a holistic approach to bitcoin even if using slightly smaller capital, compared to placing altcoins on the targets we want to do.

I see that also, because there are many local stock conditions that are underperforming at the moment, either due to inflation or recession. Real estate is still quite stable, but the effort to get involved in it is quite a drain on large funds, so there will be very little opportunity for us to develop it now. Selling your house to get involved in crypto may not be the only good way and you need to re-examine the opportunity.

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I do not have much money. That is why I prefer to buy bitcoin. With $1000, if bitcoin can go 5x, that is a lot to me in a year.
This is one of the advantages of bitcoin, that can invest any amount. Even money saved on school lunches. Smiley This allows to make this investment tool available to almost any segment of the population, regardless of age and financial condition. Really unique, right? While investing in real estate requires substantial capital. Even traditional securities and bonds are available with restrictions, such as age restrictions.

What that I know some people are investing on is buying land legally. Making sure that the papers are complete and law backed.
Land - why not an investment? This is also a definite option. What about antiques? After all, this can also be regarded as a way of investing, right.

If you do not want to talk about altcoins because they are shit coins, some people invest in stocks. I do not know much about stocks because I prefer bitcoin.
Among the shares, there are also many shitcoins - garbage shares.

Another suggestion is to invest in gold, but gold is more like a store of value than an investment.
A little different. Gold acts as a wealth freeze, that is, it allows to kind of fix the value in the current state.

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There is a halving coming next year to which many people who know and have bitcoins have set a target of the amount they hope to have in their holding by the time the bull run begins. I like to know if with this knowledge of bitcoin halving coming, if anyone is investing in anything other than bitcoins. I do not mean alt-coin but things like Real Estate, stocks, bonds etc. I know that Real Estate is good to invest in, but asides real estate, what else are you risking the money you should to invest more in bitcoins on?

It is not more a new news about halving period and what usually follows after halving period, I believe the next thing everyone that have experience or who have read about the history of Bitcoin halving will definitely be expecting the continue increasing change in the price of Bitcoin over short period of time which is bull run,in the bull run period the price of Bitcoin will just be going up but sometime experienced little drop due to Bitcoin nature of volatility, in this bull run period of time every Bitcoin investor are always happy with their seeing positive change in their Bitcoin investment.

In the bull run period it is when many people do make profit from their Bitcoin investments, so with my little knowledge about bull run period, I will not like to invest in others investment but only invested the little amount money I can afford to lose in bitcoin because it the only investment I think it worth investing at that period of time.

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I have bitcoin, some alts & a couple of real estate properties. I am not interested in diversifying into anything else. The majority of my net worth is in bitcoin & I intend to keep it that way. The current price will look like chumps change in a couple of years.

And some alts. I think that investing in some alts is a good idea. It doesn't have to be a big investment, depending on someone's possibilities, but setting aside 5% (more or less) for some interesting projects can pay off in the long run. And there are some good projects around that have a nice potential. In every bull run some new alt makes incredible progress.
Indeed, I do not recommend anyone to invest in altcoins as they are riskier than bitcoin, but it would not be so bad if we just invest a small part of our capital in them. Although altcoins have great risks, if we choose the right coin, it is clear that its profits will be very significant compared to bitcoin. Many people only focus on bitcoin and think that all altcoins are useless, which is really a waste because they are missing out on bigger opportunities.

We invest in cryptocurrencies to make profits, so we should not be too stubborn and ignore opportunities outside of bitcoin. As long as we invest a small amount, it will not cause too much damage to us.

There's nothing wrong to invest at altcoin it would really depends on the coin you would invest with, cause for me I've invested in altcoin before but only for a quick-flip it's not much but I've still profit. But still it's not advisable for a long term investment due to its volatility is random like it really depends on the project some would literally rugpull it. Well I agree that maybe your spare capital or money maybe you could try small amount first for your own experience to altcoins if it suits for you so you can compare it to Bitcoin, what I mean is that you can make your own strategy with these coins. Still if you want to secure just stick with BTC.

Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with altcoins but it's confusing how many people consider them to be trash. If we need security, an asset, a currency of the future, then bitcoin is the choice. But if we are here for profit, then altcoins are an opportunity worth trying, just like those who took the risk of investing in bitcoin when the price was below 1 USD. We want great success, we need to step out of our comfort zone.

Long-term investment with altcoins, I think ETH will also be a good choice, the rest should only be used for speculation, do not put your trust in any altcoin projects, there is no technology associated with them, they are just empty promises. Bitcoin should still be the bulk of our portfolio because its safety and returns aren't too bad.
They are really that pertaining into those coins which are shit and just simply those pumps and dumps and this is why they do really make out some generalization on how shitty those altcoins are without even trying out

to make some exemption of course into those top rankings which we could really definitely say that it would really be that still a good option on dealing with other alternatives on which it could potentially bring out profits on the time that you do make out some good decisions and choosing on which one. Diversification when it comes to investment and business would really be always that recommendable. This doesnt only limit out on Bitcoin and some altcoins in the market but also in other traditional investments which we do know. As long you do have the money and the funds that could be used then go ahead and diversify.

The only main thing what people been lacking is the money that they could really make use as a capital because we do have that basic ideas on where things should be put in and where to work on.
It is really just that people doesnt have that sufficient money or  funds for them to begin with. You cant really just make yourseld dive into those things without money or capital of course.

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Investing in bitcoin is very profitable but I would say other things like land, gold can also be invested in apart from bitcoin.  But in this case the investor needs to have a lot of money.  And you don't have to own a lot of money to invest in bitcoin. You can invest small amounts of money in bitcoin everyday.  But it is very much your personal matter, if you want, it will be better for you to invest where you think you can do well according to your wishes.
Honestly, I really think it is truly better to have different investments and various sources of income. It's like what a lot of people say "Don't put all of your eggs in one basket." Doing it this way can lessen the risk of not having any profit and enough income to cater to every need and expenses an individual has. Moreover, even with a small amount of money it will be much better to still divide it to have different investments, say a different percentage for every investment you can possibly have or know, that way you can have the confidence that at least one of them will do better than the other and if one fails to make profit then you can still rely on the others. Relying solely on one investment has the huge risk of losing everything at once and in this economy, that is truly dangerous, especially in terms of wanting financial stability. However, much like what you have stated, it is still up to our personal preferences, I'm just emphasizing the risk of not having enough choices and channels to run to when things go bad.

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September 08, 2023, 05:05:48 AM
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Real Estate investment is expensive, I can't afford that. I think that is the reason why I set my eyes on Bitcoin and Altcoins. Simply because I can buy something even at a small price and it can easily be accumulated, stored, and withdrawn anytime I want. When I was younger I always thought about investing in real estate, but the opportunity didn't come to me, and I was hooked on cryptocurrency on the internet era. Also, I am not thinking about withdrawing my Bitcoin just yet, but if I do, maybe that's when I will buy some assets on that area or maybe just gold. My wife though, likes investing in gold over cryptocurrencies. It's just two things for her, gold or cash.  Cheesy
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September 08, 2023, 05:21:19 AM
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for now, I only invest in two things, namely crypto, and real estate. Until now I support the development of my real estate investment using crypto. However, another thing I think to invest in when both are good enough is gold. we know that gold has a price that increases from year to year, it can be one very good investment whose potential is almost the same as crypto and real estate. Some people may invest by developing the business they own, or making deposits at the bank.


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September 08, 2023, 10:33:23 AM
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Honestly, I am planning to withdraw as much as possible from other investments and then switch its process to bitcoin and a few altcoins. I know the market is not guaranteed but since the birth of bitcoin the 4-year cycle always made huge bull runs during the halving and after the halving year.

Local stocks here are performing badly and some of them are even worse than the altcoin market. Real estate is the most stable and reliable in my country but it is slow moving which tempted me at times to even sell my house and then put some of the amount into crypto. It's not going to hurt me since I love moving from place to place.
To be honest it's not right when you try to attract more altcoin investments so that later everything will be transferred to bitcoins. If the existing scenario goes well then thankfully you have the opportunity to switch it to bitcoin, then what happens if the scenario doesn't go according to our wishes. For me it is better to take a holistic approach to bitcoin even if using slightly smaller capital, compared to placing altcoins on the targets we want to do.

I see that also, because there are many local stock conditions that are underperforming at the moment, either due to inflation or recession. Real estate is still quite stable, but the effort to get involved in it is quite a drain on large funds, so there will be very little opportunity for us to develop it now. Selling your house to get involved in crypto may not be the only good way and you need to re-examine the opportunity.

You're right, most of my altcoins except ethereum are in very bad situations right now. I was just trying to catch the lowest prices on some of the altcoins but it might cost me more in order to average down. Although I am confident that they will be in profit by next year or after the halving year, it would've been better if I stuck to just bitcoin and ethereum and then only switched some into risky altcoins once the bull run starts. Nonetheless, bitcoin at the moment is 68% of my portfolio, ethereum at 15%, and the other risky altcoins at around 17%.

I was tempted to sell the house because I believe it is easy money. Like if I sell it now and buy bitcoin at $25k, I am confident my capital will be doubled by next year or by 2024. Although it is going to be too risky.

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