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September 02, 2023, 01:48:18 PM |
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@OP how old are you? have you get a job? you can easily answer this if you already work under someone, it's either your job desk are boring, get paid less, high pressure, toxic working place, toxic boss, too far from your home, etc etc.
Signature campaign on the other hand also consist of many factors and if someone feel there's a better option, they will choose to switch other campaign. This is really personal and there are many reasons from it.
I think you are taking it too personal or into heart as I believe op just wanted to see the different version of answer from people here. From my point of view I don't see switching of campaign to be something very bad or seen as a sin since everyone control their account and no one has power to control each an everyone account, so it's to people leaving campaign to join other campaign they feels more comfortable with. I wouldn't like to go further as I believe a lot key points has been presented already so is of op's option to read them all to know the different reasons why people do switch from campaign to another.
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September 02, 2023, 01:49:22 PM |
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I can answer you as I’m the member who moved after 3 years, personally I still feel grateful to BESTCHANGE and I created an alternative account to promote them for free (as an expression of my gratitude( but over time you want to go on a new deal and that's what I did.
As for the reason that I did not do that before, it is because most of the campaigns during 2020 to 2023 were gambling campaigns, casinos, or loans, and these three things I do not like, and I have almost 0% posts in the gambling section during the 6 years I spent here.
In 2020, I was in a CHIPMIXER campaign, and from there I moved to BESTCHANGE, and perhaps after the disappearance of CHIPMIXER, more mixers campaigns appeared, so I moved.
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September 02, 2023, 02:02:41 PM |
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I won't see anything wrong if a participant leaves a campaign whose manager is very strict in certain circumstances and would deny you post that will make up your weekly quota and won't pay you half for the week or refer you to make extra one more post for the new week. This usually happens in campaign that has stated amount of posts that must be made for weekly payment, so if a participant sees a campaign where the post has both minimum and maximum or pay as you post then they might move. However, some users move to different campaigns that has the same characteristics, payment and same manager within a week or two even if for slightest payment difference. I think the major reason is payment and not totally comfort for more than 50% of users doing that.
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September 02, 2023, 02:03:31 PM |
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What makes members move everytime? I need your contribution on this to make me understand it better.
Higher pay is of course the main reason for members who switch to signing campaigns, besides project uncertainty, convenience with the rules set by the manager are some of the other reasons for members switching to signing campaigns. i pay enough attention to members who often move, there are members who have not received a single campaign until now for several reasons and maybe the manager marked their account and put their account on the blacklist. Apart from that, i'm sure you've got the answer to your question.
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September 02, 2023, 02:34:47 PM |
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I can answer you as I’m the member who moved after 3 years, personally I still feel grateful to BESTCHANGE and I created an alternative account to promote them for free (as an expression of my gratitude( but over time you want to go on a new deal and that's what I did. I do not think that this post is formed because of you because you are one of the most loyal campaign promoters in the forum. 3years is not 3 months and on leaving Best_Change you created an account that will continue to promote Best_Change. Although, I doubt how fast you can grow the account, but your loyalty is proven. As for the reason that I did not do that before, it is because most of the campaigns during 2020 to 2023 were gambling campaigns, casinos, or loans, and these three things I do not like, and I have almost 0% posts in the gambling section during the 6 years I spent here.
In 2020, I was in a CHIPMIXER campaign, and from there I moved to BESTCHANGE, and perhaps after the disappearance of CHIPMIXER, more mixers campaigns appeared, so I moved.
I haven't seen of recent where people promote projects according to their belief. Before now some person's will not promote gambling companies no matter how much they pay. These days, there are a few of such people, as people are willing to promote any project for money.
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September 02, 2023, 03:03:57 PM |
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This could be as a result of unsatisfied pay rate just as the user said, and delay in payment.. Lets say some manager don't pay on time after week runs out, some participants wants after week runs before 8am in the morning they expect to see their balance changes in their wallet and not those manager that will delay till almost that day runs out before paying participants even when they hold funds with them. If you look well is very discouraging at all points, so they chooses another campaign instead of remaining in their previous campaign.
But the disadvantage of switching campaign is that you might ended up joining a campaign that may not last longer than the previous campaign that is what most people do not considered at all but all only considering the huge amount being paid at the moment, while some people feels like experience new environment of another code.
You are right there. Switching campaign may also lead you to not profiting at all. Instead of participating to a new campaign because the rate is high and the minimum requirement is low, you could have end up in a short span duration campaign and make you jobless in the end. That’s the reason why I don’t easily switch campaign, as I don’t want to lose the opportunity of being a member of a reliable campaign and a reputable campaign manager that is always punctual in updating the spreadsheet and sending weekly payment.
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September 02, 2023, 03:07:46 PM |
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Pay rate, longevity.
Pay rate - I think for most of the people who are into Bitcoin-paid signature campaign, they know this already, and I also believe that this is one of the main reasons as to why people are moving from one campaign to another. I remember the time where whenever Chipmixer has an open spot, I see 5 or more pages of users who are applying for it (including me), and most of them are into Bitcoin-paid signature campaign.
Longevity - Most of the Bitcoin-paid signature campaigns that I ever joined has been there for a very long time with exception to Rollbit where I started joining since it's launch, and luckily it's still running 3 years I think after it first started. I remember Yolodice has been running for years already before I joined. Same with Stake.com, and now Bestchange. I always consider the longevity of the campaign. Yes there might be some campaigns out there who are paying higher to their participants, but the question is, is that sustainable? That's the first thing that comes out to my mind, and I will decide base on that.
There might be some here who has other factors as to why they're switching campaigns, but I don't want to overcomplicate things, because that will just make me stressful.
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September 02, 2023, 03:11:27 PM |
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I don't know about others but let me share my own thoughts on this. I have been in the Sinbad signature campaign for a long time now. I have worked in other signature campaigns but those were not that long enough and had limited payment for a limited period of time. But this one that I am in now, has been here for a long time. And getting into a new signature campaign is quite tough. I don't consider myself the best. I am pretty much average when it comes to writing. So the competition is real. And I am in a campaign because of obviously the payment. But I may not get accepted in another campaign and my work may not suit other campaign managers.
Also, there are some different requirements for posts in different campaigns. One may require fewer posts and pay the same, but they require to post in a certain section in which I am not able to give out good posts. So there's a chance that I may end up kicked out from that campaign. And I have been working on this campaign for a long time. I know how things work in this and how the campaign manager would react to certain things. For this reason, I won't move to something new even if it's paying more. I have created a routine for my work and it fits my daily life. Others may not fit the way this does.
So that's how I feel about this.
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September 02, 2023, 03:16:09 PM |
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Many factors support the decision to switch campaigns, a practice previously avoided due to the loss of rewards. Nowadays, few campaigns are considered credible, so any offering both credibility and better rewards are eagerly embraced.
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September 02, 2023, 03:17:35 PM |
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I believe the reason is too obvious that user preferred a better pay grade or a much simpler rules that give them freedom to post on the boards that they want. Campaign participants will not join on any signature campaign if they have enough money from their salary or investments just like what the OG user on Wall Observer thread that have enough credentials to join any campaign that they like but decided to avoid any commitments by posting just to be paid.
Campaign managers doesn’t have any rules about this so user find it normal to chase for a better pay grade over the duration of the campaign since they can join back again whenever they like especially those user that is high merit count.
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September 02, 2023, 03:27:00 PM |
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I myself, just moved to a new campaign because I just rank up.
One of the most realistic reasons in my opinion. Move to another campaign because you have ranked up to get higher pay. There are also several other reasons for members moving to a new campaign, initially they want the signature space to be filled regardless of which campaign, after that they will consider moving to another campaign when the opportunity arises. Kebiasaan memposting juga menjadi bahan pertimbangan, aturan Campaign yang berbeda membuat sebagian pesertanya ingin bergabung karena lebih mudah mencapai kuota mingguan yang ditentukan di Campaign. The real reason is of course very different according to each individual, for me apart from the factor of the weekly salary, the campaign duration is also a consideration.
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September 02, 2023, 03:47:12 PM |
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This could be as a result of unsatisfied pay rate just as the user said, and delay in payment.. Lets say some manager don't pay on time after week runs out, some participants wants after week runs before 8am in the morning they expect to see their balance changes in their wallet and not those manager that will delay till almost that day runs out before paying participants even when they hold funds with them. If you look well is very discouraging at all points, so they chooses another campaign instead of remaining in their previous campaign.
But the disadvantage of switching campaign is that you might ended up joining a campaign that may not last longer than the previous campaign that is what most people do not considered at all but all only considering the huge amount being paid at the moment, while some people feels like experience new environment of another code.
You are right there. Switching campaign may also lead you to not profiting at all. Instead of participating to a new campaign because the rate is high and the minimum requirement is low, you could have end up in a short span duration campaign and make you jobless in the end. That’s the reason why I don’t easily switch campaign, as I don’t want to lose the opportunity of being a member of a reliable campaign and a reputable campaign manager that is always punctual in updating the spreadsheet and sending weekly payment. Mostly I can term it to be laziness, some people are not that energetic to work and even as that we shouldn't make posting to look very stressful or something too difficulty to do. When you post to make contribution to forum you find it less difficulty to move from one campaign to another without thinking about the stress or energy to put in making post. Reasons because some posters do love a campaign that requires local board post at this point it became more easier to complete their weekly quota but, whenever you sees those that posts without having to look at the load or on post count you would understand that this people are naturally posting even though they are paid or not they still keep posting, typical example to know those that post only paid post are the people who gives exact number of post per week.. But those who are freely posting do not minds how much post they had given to the campaign, which I sense it to be a sign of laziness. Although some could be they are extremely occupied with other activities or busy at their working place just trying to add sig as an extra side hustle.
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I have also seen those who have refused to move to campaigns with better rates, they will be picked if they applied because of their good posts. They choose to remain. Is it about loyalty? Is it that they are scared of switching? Is it about fulfilment with where they are?
Each member will have their reasons to change or not change from one campaign to another. Personally, I like the idea of being loyal to a campaign, since they have been being loyal to me as an employer, week after week, for years already, without failing in anyways. I could try swaping to another campaign for superior financial purposes as soon as they open a spot, like many members have already done, but why to seek for a change if the currently situation I find myself in is fine? I think that would be a greedy move from my side, which could end very badly after all, since I would be exchanging a long lasting, solid and loyal campaign for a brand new one which can last for few weeks or one month...
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September 02, 2023, 04:56:20 PM |
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I believe the reason is too obvious that user preferred a better pay grade or a much simpler rules that give them freedom to post on the boards that they want. Campaign participants will not join on any signature campaign if they have enough money from their salary or investments just like what the OG user on Wall Observer thread that have enough credentials to join any campaign that they like but decided to avoid any commitments by posting just to be paid.
Campaign managers doesn’t have any rules about this so user find it normal to chase for a better pay grade over the duration of the campaign since they can join back again whenever they like especially those user that is high merit count.
Mostly, it's because of money and convenience. Members do not want to do stay longer in a campaign if they are not comfortable working on it, especially if there are delayed payments most of the time. Joining a signature campaign is like working on your job, you cannot sustain working on it for a longer time if you are not receiving high salary rate, nor enjoying the environment of the campaign. Once members stick on a campaign for 3 years or more, most likely the campaign itself is very productive along with its very responsible and reputable campaign manager.
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September 02, 2023, 05:02:48 PM |
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I assume that the main incentive for a signature campaign switch is money, no matter how trite it may sound. In my opinion, most of the forum members change signature campaigns because of this. Perhaps some of them don't satisfy the conditions and requirements. I can only speculate, because I myself don't belong to those forum participants that you are talking about and for quite a long time I continue to remain in the ranks of the same signature campaign. Loyalty, in my opinion, also has an impact when choosing a signature campaign. At least in my case, as well as stability. Personally, I'm too lazy to move from one campaign to another every week, even despite the higher payment. I doubt that my post allowed you to get an answer to your question, but maybe it will help to understand the incomprehensible soul of a signature campaign participant. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) P.S. I know which signature campaigner with 3 years of experience you are talking about. For me, this was also a big surprise.
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hg_away
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September 02, 2023, 05:03:53 PM |
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I do not think that this post is formed because of you because you are one of the most loyal campaign promoters in the forum.
He mentioned it here He was with BestChange. Alot of people can not remain there because there are many campaigns paying higher rates than the campaign he was with but he remained until yesterday that he moved to another campaign. Three years is like a lifetime, both for the campaign running and the member who remained faithful to it.
Although, I doubt how fast you can grow the account, but your loyalty is proven.
Let's say I'm JR now ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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September 02, 2023, 07:20:21 PM |
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I do not think that this post is formed because of you because you are one of the most loyal campaign promoters in the forum.
He mentioned it here He was with BestChange. Alot of people can not remain there because there are many campaigns paying higher rates than the campaign he was with but he remained until yesterday that he moved to another campaign.
It was for something good that I mentioned you. Nothing to feel had about. I admire those who stay long and loyal to promote a campaign for a year. Yours was more than that, it is something worthy to be mentioned and admired. I wish your new account success in the coming weeks as you continue to move up in rank.
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September 02, 2023, 11:28:39 PM |
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It's always the pay rate per, next is the rules, then the management.
Changing campaigns due to pay rates is obvious reasons. Rules depends, if the payrate is higher yet the post counts needed is above 25, its a negative for most. Also the required number of post in particular board matters as well. If these two is existing on its rules even it has higher pay rates, i still would not join. Managers may vary, some are strict some are not.
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Darker45
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September 03, 2023, 03:19:34 AM |
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There must be a number of reasons why one moves from one campaign to another. Of course, one is about payment rate. We cannot deny this. This must be the heaviest reason. Another possibly is the number of required posts. Others probably prefer a lower minimum or none at all. Or perhaps some others transfer because of the kind of project being promoted. Or perhaps one doesn't like the rules or the manager or the project team. There are probably more.
As for me, I normally just prefer to stay. There could be an instance or two in the past in which I applied for another campaign that pays better, but in general I have this principle to just stick to my current campaign until it's over. Of course, even a weekly difference of $5 or $10 already matters a lot to somebody who's living in a poor country, but I feel a little uncomfortable abandoning a manager or a project that accepted me, my way of posting, my posting habit, and so on.
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Mr.right85
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September 03, 2023, 10:40:44 AM |
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For most, it’s always about the pay rate per post and what level of compromise the manager gives in considering a post valid. Of course, even a weekly difference of $5 or $10 already matters a lot to somebody who's living in a poor country, but I feel a little uncomfortable abandoning a manager or a project that accepted me, my way of posting, my posting habit, and so on.
Something am not always overly excited seeing is having to switch campaigns with as little as $5 difference in pay rate and when users where just accepted into a campaign just days before another campaign launched. It almost never sits well with me but hey, it’s a users choice and have got nothing to explain for making those choices except, the work they get to give managers in having to reconsider other applicants which makes a wait list apparently useful. Thoughts am having is, the promise of how long a campaign would last is key to keeping bound with participants with a standard pay rate, rules to posting and consistency in payment. It bonds participants and campaign together such as we have in the green family of BestChange.
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