Why do members switch campaigns always?

[Pmalek]

I do feel like merit is a popularity contest. It's totally worthless for Legendary members, just bragging rights yet you see Legendary members getting merited for everything.

It depends. If you are an active campaign participant, the merits are important even for legendary accounts. We have seen many campaigns where the earned merits in the last 120 days are taken into account. Nowadays, we are seeing campaigns where there is a merit-rank, enabling those with 3k or 4k of earned merits better pay rates than the rest of the participants. If you earn 2k and start thinking, now I don't care anymore and can relax, your position may be filled by someone who didn't relax. So, they have their uses. Let's call it that. 

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Nowadays, we are seeing campaigns where there is a merit-rank, enabling those with 3k or 4k of earned merits better pay rates than the rest of the participants. If you earn 2k and start thinking, now I don't care anymore and can relax, your position may be filled by someone who didn't relax. So, they have their uses. Let's call it that. 

You are absolutely right here, although I see it differently. In terms of merit, it should not be normal for the user to "relax" and not earn more merits. I want to say, does it have to be a battle for every merit or should it still be possible to get them with a relaxed attitude towards it?
Should Legendary users submit their posts in various prize "unmerited post to be merited" contests, or create an endless "overview of XYZ" threads, which was able to help in getting merit?

[Pmalek]

In terms of merit, it should not be normal for the user to "relax" and not earn more merits.

It shouldn't but that's exactly what can happen if you do. Apply that in every segment in life. If you don't do your best, you can't expect the best results and/or the greatest rewards. Those who work harder, will reap more benefits.

I want to say, does it have to be a battle for every merit or should it still be possible to get them with a relaxed attitude towards it?

You are not going to get them in the same quantity if you stop caring what you write and how. The content might still be merit-worthy to some degree but not like if you really applied yourself.

Should Legendary users submit their posts in various prize "unmerited post to be merited" contests, or create an endless "overview of XYZ" threads, which was able to help in getting merit?

Everyone does what they believe they should. If legendary users stopped writing quality threads and posts, I don't think low-level account holders will do it instead. The forum would then be at a loss regardless of the motives behind those posts. 

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

What makes members move everytime? I need your contribution on this to make me understand it better.

I was with Stake for long time. What I remember is, I realized Stake was paying better than the existing campaign I was in [I can not remember which one I was with LOL] so I thought to talk to their campaign manager. She was nice and also understand what I will accept and what not. I had two requests [1.] I don't want to replace my avatar [2.] receive the expected payment I think is okay with me.

After discussing many things, many possibilities she agreed and I was promoting Stake.

Then a few weeks ago Coins.Game manager reached out to me and showed his interest to help the brand. The project looks promising and challenging. I also like the way he approached and wanted help. Additionally he offered me a better pay rate too. I felt okay with it. So I went back to Stake management, told them if they are fine if I want to move from them. They offered me some alternatives, it's not that I did not like but I wanted to take some new challenge but with less work [lazy LOL, it keeps my mind fresh].

I think people change campaign is because, first they want a better pay rate, second the respect and honor you receive from the people you are co-operating with.

[Agbe]

I think people change campaign is because, first they want a better pay rate, second the respect and honor you receive from the people you are co-operating with.

You have said well. These are the two major ones making people to change campaigns and mostly the first one. And also add it to what you have said, the latest exhibition of campaign managers to Participants also contributing to the changing of Campaign, like campaign managers remove participants from their campaigns without prior warning so with that there is no loyalty from the participants again. Campaign managers have to respect the participants as well so that there would be mutual friendship so that when a participant want to leave a campaign then the both parties would understand themselves and peaceful exit would take place. Like as you did is the perfect way to do it. When a participant is not doing well again, make a comment on the spreadsheet or pm so the person can sit up again, writing is not easy and not all time one has something to write. There are sometimes you navigate through the forum but nothing to write about. Though one of the rules in Campaign is to remove lost quality posts without warning but to have peaceful coexistence write small note for them. Like my present campaign manager, he does write note on those who were not doing well and if they persist for 2 or 3 he would remove them. That is nice because he has informed them but they could not meet up the demand. There should be respect from the both sides.

[Ultegra134]

I do feel like merit is a popularity contest. It's totally worthless for Legendary members, just bragging rights yet you see Legendary members getting merited for everything.

It depends. If you are an active campaign participant, the merits are important even for legendary accounts. We have seen many campaigns where the earned merits in the last 120 days are taken into account. Nowadays, we are seeing campaigns where there is a merit-rank, enabling those with 3k or 4k of earned merits better pay rates than the rest of the participants. If you earn 2k and start thinking, now I don't care anymore and can relax, your position may be filled by someone who didn't relax. So, they have their uses. Let's call it that. 

Someone who's capable of acquiring 2.000 merit in the first place is likely to earn more without any extravagant effort, firstly due to their status and secondly due to their knowledge. It's unlikely that someone with a legendary account with so much merit would sit back and relax and start posting gibberish. Creating constructive content isn't that difficult after all; it's possible if you're determined and patient enough.

However, I understand your point; this scenario is more probable with someone who ranks up from Full Member to Sr.Member or Hero, where you practically reach the peak of the signature campaign payment rates.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

Most conditions attached to change of campaign is because of payrate, this payrate we are also talking about is not the fault of the campaigns manager, it's what their clients wants, you could discover some are paying high while some moderately, we can also look into the organization financial strength and capability, we all know what we want irrespective of the type of campaign, high paying campaigns last and same also are some low paying campaigns which do last as well, but our individual conclusion on wether staying or not depends on the campaign requirements and payrate as well.

[TheUltraElite]

I am one of those users who tend to stick with the campaign as long as it runs even if a new campaign comes up with a bigger pay for my rank. Call me lazy but having to adjust to a routine that would be new, I tend to not change campaigns unless the last one ends or shuts down or plain stops paying.

Considering the reason for being on this forum is making money for most people, I can understand that they will look for better opportunities that pay their posts, but I like to stress the manager less from my side. Can only start to think the sheer amount of extra work that managers have to put in when a large volume of flux happens.

[johnsaributua]

~snipp~And for those who move always, is it money driving the motive? ~snipp~

  Maybe, some posters who already have a good reputation, the quality of their posts and have the required merits they will take the opportunity and look for several managers who have a relatively long campaign duration, managers are not all the same and rarely even given esrow first, in other words there are also paid impromptu by the dev himself [the manager only checks to manage the posts of participants who are accepted], sometimes it is so and it is not an open secret to know the manager one by one and the campaign signature project that is managed means that it already has a characteristic and rating in the eyes of the posters here.

  On the other hand for posters who are difficult to accept in the weekly campaign will definitely regret and swear, it's normal  . the value I take is that there are posters who are easy and there are those who are difficult in applying, even though the potential is the same but the correction is only in each person.

I do feel like merit is a popularity contest. It's totally worthless for Legendary members, just bragging rights yet you see Legendary members getting merited for everything.

It depends. If you are an active campaign participant, the merits are important even for legendary accounts. We have seen many campaigns where the earned merits in the last 120 days are taken into account. Nowadays, we are seeing campaigns where there is a merit-rank, enabling those with 3k or 4k of earned merits better pay rates than the rest of the participants. If you earn 2k and start thinking, now I don't care anymore and can relax, your position may be filled by someone who didn't relax. So, they have their uses. Let's call it that.  

Someone who's capable of acquiring 2.000 merit in the first place is likely to earn more without any extravagant effort, firstly due to their status and secondly due to their knowledge. It's unlikely that someone with a legendary account with so much merit would sit back and relax and start posting gibberish. Creating constructive content isn't that difficult after all; it's possible if you're determined and patient enough.

However, I understand your point; this scenario is more probable with someone who ranks up from Full Member to Sr.Member or Hero, where you practically reach the peak of the signature campaign payment rates.

  Excuse me sir, I realized that there are several legendary members or rank up above me, which I admire and have not put up a signature or not followed any manager's siganture campaign for a long time, their activeness is very loyal and the merits they get are increasing drastically from day to day, I assume that quality posts by some people are based on daily habbits by strengthening themselves and getting used to having a good quality mindset, that's why I'm excited until now and embarrassed, even accounts like mine are even lazy to look for new things, they have to keep learning and not just expect fortune to come, it makes me a little surprised with myself.

  Regarding merit as popularity or pride, for me it is natural with his results up to that point, because I am struggling to increase rank, the biggest rival is with myself. in the past I was satisfied with my performance or did not want to develop. and in the end I blamed the situation because it was difficult to find a signature, now I am aware and sincere that fortune will not come if I am silent, and my presence rarely may affect the views of others.

  Whatever the number of merits and pay will not be the main goal if the habit is to be active and contribute to the forum, but if there are few merits for people who are always complacent, of course they will feel themselves better than others like I felt before, and I had a vacuum, a few years ago, It's been 12 months since I became active again and I'm enjoying the ride, sir.

[Z-tight]

like campaign managers remove participants from their campaigns without prior warning so with that there is no loyalty from the participants again. Campaign managers have to respect the participants as well so that there would be mutual friendship so that when a participant want to leave a campaign then the both parties would understand themselves and peaceful exit would take place.

It is hard to take if a member is removed from a campaign that they enjoy advertising, but take note that every campaign manager reserves the right to remove participants without warning or notice and you can find that information in the rules of every campaign thread.

There should be respect from the both sides.

I agree, and i think most managers usually leave notes of warning to participants that they think aren't advertising the project well and even for some who don't leave notes, they do not just remove members if they have a 'bad' few weeks, but after months and months of really poor posting habits.

[taufik123]

Someone who's capable of acquiring 2.000 merit in the first place is likely to earn more without any extravagant effort, firstly due to their status and secondly due to their knowledge. It's unlikely that someone with a legendary account with so much merit would sit back and relax and start posting gibberish. Creating constructive content isn't that difficult after all; it's possible if you're determined and patient enough.
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Extensive knowledge will affect the quality of the constructive content created.
Seniors or even those who are new but have good knowledge and content quality will easily get many merits, they are really serious in responding to every discussion, thus providing a solution, not just nonsense.

Some other legendary accounts with minimal merit may just create nonsense posts, because they are already in a safe zone with a signature campaign that pays for it, but in the end, when the rules change it will be the reason why they are kicked out.

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I agree, and i think most managers usually leave notes of warning to participants that they think aren't advertising the project well and even for some who don't leave notes, they do not just remove members if they have a 'bad' few weeks, but after months and months of really poor posting habits.

A manager who leaves a note about how they did in 1 week is a warning that should be evaluated.
Sometimes there are managers who don't give any warnings, but as the rules change in the campaign and developers want quality participants, those who don't have good progress will be kicked out immediately.

Improving all the time is necessary.
It's also a warning to myself to keep improving and not just give crap.

[Agbe]

It is hard to take if a member is removed from a campaign that they enjoy advertising, but take note that every campaign manager reserves the right to remove participants without warning or notice and you can find that information in the rules of every campaign thread.

I know that all the campaigns have that warning but one thing the managements have to know is that the participants are not robots but humans who use their brains and also have other works in real life. So they are sometimes they might produce low and high. There are sometimes a participant might not even know what he is writing, and many reputable members have also testified to this. As I said earlier, some managers understand those things and give warning from one to two and if the user is still on low quality then he or she would be kick out. And one thing we have to know is that mistake must come the matter the person is knowledgeable and brilliant. Well forum frown at low quality and there are different ways low quality post can be produced. And everyone view post from different perspective.

[yahoo62278]

I do feel like merit is a popularity contest. It's totally worthless for Legendary members, just bragging rights yet you see Legendary members getting merited for everything.

It depends. If you are an active campaign participant, the merits are important even for legendary accounts. We have seen many campaigns where the earned merits in the last 120 days are taken into account. Nowadays, we are seeing campaigns where there is a merit-rank, enabling those with 3k or 4k of earned merits better pay rates than the rest of the participants. If you earn 2k and start thinking, now I don't care anymore and can relax, your position may be filled by someone who didn't relax. So, they have their uses. Let's call it that. 

I suppose you have a point. I have been getting custom sig deals for years now that usually have no merit requirement, so I don't really pay attention to merits. I have used a must earn 1 merit per week rule in a couple campaigns and wasn't really a fan of it. Should merit earning be taken into consideration? Maybe, but post history and quality is much more important to look at. Some deserve merits and don't get them which makes the system unfair. Wouldn't like to see a great forum contributor over
looked because he didn't earn x amount of merits.

[Ultegra134]

Someone who's capable of acquiring 2.000 merit in the first place is likely to earn more without any extravagant effort, firstly due to their status and secondly due to their knowledge. It's unlikely that someone with a legendary account with so much merit would sit back and relax and start posting gibberish. Creating constructive content isn't that difficult after all; it's possible if you're determined and patient enough.
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Extensive knowledge will affect the quality of the constructive content created.
Seniors or even those who are new but have good knowledge and content quality will easily get many merits, they are really serious in responding to every discussion, thus providing a solution, not just nonsense.

Some other legendary accounts with minimal merit may just create nonsense posts, because they are already in a safe zone with a signature campaign that pays for it, but in the end, when the rules change it will be the reason why they are kicked out.

That's correct; your rank doesn't necessarily mean that you're knowledgeable. I've seen plenty of Jr. Members up to Full Members contributing vastly to the forum and assisting other users by providing technical knowledge regarding Bitcoin, networks, wallets, and so on. On the other hand, there are high-ranking members who had ranked up before the merit system was introduced and are still posting gibberish in known spam sections of the forum.

A manager who leaves a note about how they did in 1 week is a warning that should be evaluated.
Sometimes there are managers who don't give any warnings, but as the rules change in the campaign and developers want quality participants, those who don't have good progress will be kicked out immediately.

Improving all the time is necessary.
It's also a warning to myself to keep improving and not just give crap.

I also believe that warnings should be given before removing a signature campaign member if a deteriorating performance is found. It could be a case of personal matters that may have impacted his or her performance. However, if it's a continuous issue, no more than two warnings should be given.

[Rikafip]

Wouldn't like to see a great forum contributor overlooked because he didn't earn x amount of merits.

There's so much merit being shared (combination of theymos increasing merit source allocation 2 years ago and fewer quality membera) that even average members make pretty solid amount of merit so chances that someone very good to be overlooked when it comes to merit are slim. Unless that person is mostly writing in gambling board which is still seriously undermited.

[Pmalek]

There's so much merit being shared (combination of theymos increasing merit source allocation 2 years ago and fewer quality membera) that even average members make pretty solid amount of merit so chances that someone very good to be overlooked when it comes to merit are slim. Unless that person is mostly writing in gambling board which is still seriously undermited.

Perhaps that can change in the near future if theymos or Cyrus approve cryptofrka's merit source application that specifically targets the gambling board as a destination to distribute merits. I also wonder if there is a handful of quality contributors in the altcoin boards or is that a cancer that no one can control any longer? Some time ago, a user applied to become an altcoin-board merit source, but I can't remember how that story ended.

[Rikafip]

Perhaps that can change in the near future if theymos or Cyrus approve cryptofrka's merit source application that specifically targets the gambling board as a destination to distribute merits.

I do believe that his merit appliucation will be eventually approved but I don't think that it will happen anytime soon. From what I noticed, theymos usually introduce new merit sources/removes inactive ones and generlaly readjust merit source allocation only when there's a big drop in the amount of merit shared and if you check the merit stats you will notice that those number still look pretty good compared to 2 years ago when theymos did the last readjustment. Add on that the fact that activity has been constantly decreasing (not in gambling board though) which is another factor that might affect his decision

Some time ago, a user applied to become an altcoin-board merit source, but I can't remember how that story ended.

Probably not good given their measly merit/post ratio (for example, Altcoin Discussion board had only 0.05 merits/post last month).

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Some time ago, a user applied to become an altcoin-board merit source, but I can't remember how that story ended.

Probably not good given their measly merit/post ratio (for example, Altcoin Discussion board had only 0.05 merits/post last month).

I very rarely go to the altcoin section, I only check a few coins sometimes to see if there is any news. However, I saw that almost all campaign managers do not count posts from altcoin discussions, I believe they recognized the poor quality of the posts there. But 0.05 merits/post is a really bad ratio, it seems to be worse than I thought.

[Rikafip]

But 0.05 merits/post is a really bad ratio, it seems to be worse than I thought.

As a matter of fact, that 0.05 merit/post ratio is actually pretty decent for Altcoin Discussion as their total average since 2018 up until now is only 0.02. To put things into perpsective and to show how low that is, even Off Topic board has higher overall merit/post ratio (0.07) and we all know about generally poor quality of posts there.

Anyway, if you are curious about some other boards merit/post ratios, you can find them on Merit Dashboard.

[Pmalek]

Probably not good given their measly merit/post ratio (for example, Altcoin Discussion board had only 0.05 merits/post last month).

Even if there is a merit source there, I still wouldn't expect impressive results when you consider how many posts that board generates and how much of that is complete nonsense. If that person had 100 merits to allocate, they would probably still suffer finding enough good posts in any given month.