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[henry_of_skalitz]

^ Agreed.

Fine print is the thing that dictates all the rest that's happening.. And it was always like that, it's just that the awareness needed now to not fall into some kind of drama is much bigger than it was, imo.

[Lida93]

Most casinos are not real, no KYC. Even if you see no KYC information on their social media or Bitcointalk forum thread, you should always review their terms and conditions to verify if they genuinely have no KYC. Most casinos use the term 'no KYC' to attract players, and then impose KYC requirements once a player wins a significant amount.

If the online casino is regulated and possesses a valid gambling license, you can be sure that KYC is a requirement, and they may ask players to verify their identities sooner or later. If not, the casino will be the one having problems. But if the casino is not regulated, you are taking on a different type of risk and trusting someone with your money who operates without oversight. That's not necessarily a bad thing nor does that make them scammers, but they can be. Ideally, you should be playing at an unlicensed online casino, run and operated by a trusted group of individuals who would never scam anybody. The real issue is finding them. 

It's the fear of unregulated casino's running away with the gambler money by scam or trick that have made every gambler moved to playing with casinos that are fully licensed as these casinos would obliged to their licensing policies and wouldn't want to take on with attitudes such like scamming of players that could risk them losing their license. Hence, a demand for KYC by any regulated casino is mandatory , and if it hasn't being asked of the gambler, it's just a matter of time before they would.

[Mr Reporter]

Honestly it's crazy certain strategies some casinos adopt just to manipulate people to make deposits and transactions in their casinos I know a couple of times have had to loose my initial deposits in some of this casinos and some were wrong websites i downloaded and and did check properly before making progress with them and that was how I lost some funds too

Note: no casino will force you to make deposits when you are not willing to do so and you should take responsibility for your mistakes if you fail to read their terms of service before choosing the casino so that you don't blame the casinos when it's your fault for not going through the site before signing up with them. Your deposits are safe you followed the necessary funding steps but if you had downloaded the wrong website then you should know that it's from you not the casino.

Hey, totally agree! Casinos can’t force you to deposit, and it’s on you to skim the terms before you sign up—otherwise it’s your own slip‑up, not theirs. Yes and I had mistakenly fallen into this situation couple of months ago having to deposit with reading a dim of the casinos terms and conditions and I had already putting in some funds in it already which later noticed it was a worng site, so in other words it best to go through their terms and conditions before starting to run any deposit, are times this can happen to anyone, but still a lesson to be putting in consideration by others.

[Wakate]

As long as they have their ToS mention anything about KYC, you cannot blame the casino if they ask for it. You can actually blame them for misleading advertisement, where they may claim themself as a No KYC casino. It is now very hard for the players. Players often disregard the rules before signing up. This shady marketing tactic will actually prompt players to read the casino's terms and conditions very carefully.

Almost all casinos that have the no KYC mentality and the ones that have shallow KYC verifications from players do have it in the terms that they can ask you to submit your KYC verification to any level if the need arise. So that means that even though you are not obligated to do KYC, at any time, they can ask for your KYC verification even without a reason of doing that. There are so many simple but severe rules against players freedom on KYC in Casinos' terms of for users.

[ultrloa]

Most casinos are not real, no KYC. Even if you see no KYC information on their social media or Bitcointalk forum thread, you should always review their terms and conditions to verify if they genuinely have no KYC. Most casinos use the term 'no KYC' to attract players, and then impose KYC requirements once a player wins a significant amount.

If the online casino is regulated and possesses a valid gambling license, you can be sure that KYC is a requirement, and they may ask players to verify their identities sooner or later. If not, the casino will be the one having problems. But if the casino is not regulated, you are taking on a different type of risk and trusting someone with your money who operates without oversight. That's not necessarily a bad thing nor does that make them scammers, but they can be. Ideally, you should be playing at an unlicensed online casino, run and operated by a trusted group of individuals who would never scam anybody. The real issue is finding them. 

It's the fear of unregulated casino's running away with the gambler money by scam or trick that have made every gambler moved to playing with casinos that are fully licensed as these casinos would obliged to their licensing policies and wouldn't want to take on with attitudes such like scamming of players that could risk them losing their license. Hence, a demand for KYC by any regulated casino is mandatory , and if it hasn't being asked of the gambler, it's just a matter of time before they would.

Because lots of that situation happened from the past that's why its expected to see lots of people choose those regulated casinos rather than staying on No KYC which also have questionable reputation. Before I'm avoiding those KYC regulated casino. But now everything change and need to adopt on the changes since most of good casinos now asked KYC to their costumers.

But I still see several casino didn't required this just like this casino. But I'm afraid that they might get regulatory issue if they became a big casino.

[MainIbem]

Because lots of that situation happened from the past that's why its expected to see lots of people choose those regulated casinos rather than staying on No KYC which also have questionable reputation. Before I'm avoiding those KYC regulated casino. But now everything change and need to adopt on the changes since most of good casinos now asked KYC to their costumers.

But I still see several casino didn't required this just like this casino. But I'm afraid that they might get regulatory issue if they became a big casino.

That's where the problem lies, I mean the regulatory issues, ever since the government stepped in to start regulating casinos many have deviate from their initial purpose just tp keep their business going, I don't blame them anyways since they could attract fines for going against government regulations. Anyways if this casino can find a way to keep going without deviating cause of government regulations then it would make lots of sense, although I don't see any reason to be scared of KYC if my account is clean but then different people got their preferences.

[gunhell16]

Honestly it's crazy certain strategies some casinos adopt just to manipulate people to make deposits and transactions in their casinos I know a couple of times have had to loose my initial deposits in some of this casinos and some were wrong websites i downloaded and and did check properly before making progress with them and that was how I lost some funds too

Note: no casino will force you to make deposits when you are not willing to do so and you should take responsibility for your mistakes if you fail to read their terms of service before choosing the casino so that you don't blame the casinos when it's your fault for not going through the site before signing up with them. Your deposits are safe you followed the necessary funding steps but if you had downloaded the wrong website then you should know that it's from you not the casino.

You’re absolutely right about this, dude. I agree with all online or offline casinos they don’t really insist that gamblers deposit money. All deposits made on their casino platforms
are entirely the decision of each gambler.

And they also shouldn’t forget that once they deposit, they need to play in the casino, regardless of the games they have. Because if you deposit and want to withdraw immediately without even trying to play the games available on their platform, in my opinion, you won’t be able to withdraw it right away because you first need to meet their wagering requirements.

[God Of Thunder]

Almost all casinos that have the no KYC mentality and the ones that have shallow KYC verifications from players do have it in the terms that they can ask you to submit your KYC verification to any level if the need arise. So that means that even though you are not obligated to do KYC, at any time, they can ask for your KYC verification even without a reason of doing that. There are so many simple but severe rules against players freedom on KYC in Casinos' terms of for users.

I am afraid I couldn't agree with the first line of your post. Not all casinos have a KYC mentality. In fact, 95% of regulated casinos are KYC-driven, and most of them do not advertise themselves as no-KYC casinos. However, there are a few KYC casinos that advertise themselves as no-KYC casinos, but reserve the right to conduct KYC according to their terms and conditions. So their ToS actually contradicts their advertisement directly.

Some casinos like Stake now even require KYC upon registration. Some allow users to make a deposit, but users need to verify their account to be able to request a withdrawal. I am sure you are aware of these things.

[Odohu]

As long as they have their ToS mention anything about KYC, you cannot blame the casino if they ask for it. You can actually blame them for misleading advertisement, where they may claim themself as a No KYC casino. It is now very hard for the players. Players often disregard the rules before signing up. This shady marketing tactic will actually prompt players to read the casino's terms and conditions very carefully.

Almost all casinos that have the no KYC mentality and the ones that have shallow KYC verifications from players do have it in the terms that they can ask you to submit your KYC verification to any level if the need arise. So that means that even though you are not obligated to do KYC, at any time, they can ask for your KYC verification even without a reason of doing that. There are so many simple but severe rules against players freedom on KYC in Casinos' terms of for users.

They have the rules but hardly ask for it unless they suspect abuse if their system such as using their platform for money laundering or trying to cheat the system with multiple accounts that is generally forbidden by most casinos. If you are playing fairly and by the rules, they will hardly ask for KYC maybe when you win something big, they will ensure that the money is going to someone with good record and not a known terrorist or criminal that is why they will ask for KYC in such a situation.

[Wakate]

Some casinos like Stake now even require KYC upon registration. Some allow users to make a deposit, but users need to verify their account to be able to request a withdrawal. I am sure you are aware of these things.

I am aware of what you have written and you are absolutely correct. My test is that if all those KYC casinos disguise themselves in the name of no KYC, this would be a problem for players that are looking for where to gamble without any KYC verification. You no that not all gamblers like to submit their information to online casinos.

I think that more hornest to require KYC upon registration then during the withdrawing money.

This is better so that players can get prepared for what is yet to come which is the completion of their KYC verification than to ask for phone number as KYC with some limit you can withdraw them after you will be asked to complete it without any earlier awareness.

[Promocodeudo]

That's where the problem lies, I mean the regulatory issues, ever since the government stepped in to start regulating casinos many have deviate from their initial purpose just tp keep their business going, I don't blame them anyways since they could attract fines for going against government regulations. Anyways if this casino can find a way to keep going without deviating cause of government regulations then it would make lots of sense, although I don't see any reason to be scared of KYC if my account is clean but then different people got their preferences.

If the Government is the reason for casinos to ask their customers for KYC from the beginning or during a huge win withdrawal, it is not too bad afteral regulation is part of strengthening the business by laying off shady characters, casinos don't just act on their own, you know what, some folks don't like to give out their informations not that they are afraid but for some reason best known to them, one thing I have come to understand is, some players don't trust casinos with KYC and it is because they aren't sure if their details will be safe with them, many players would've have preferred KYC from the onset not as a surprise from the casino when players want to withdraw their win and at this point things might go wrong, the player funds might be gone just like that, some players are not just comfortable with casinos with KYC for obvious reasons.

[Siddarth24]

Are these sites Decentralized too? Can I bet without deposit? Currently I can bet without deposit only on DexWin Bet or Polymarket

[virasog]

That's where the problem lies, I mean the regulatory issues, ever since the government stepped in to start regulating casinos many have deviate from their initial purpose just tp keep their business going, I don't blame them anyways since they could attract fines for going against government regulations. Anyways if this casino can find a way to keep going without deviating cause of government regulations then it would make lots of sense, although I don't see any reason to be scared of KYC if my account is clean but then different people got their preferences.

If the Government is the reason for casinos to ask their customers for KYC from the beginning or during a huge win withdrawal, it is not too bad afteral regulation is part of strengthening the business by laying off shady characters, casinos don't just act on their own, you know what, some folks don't like to give out their informations not that they are afraid but for some reason best known to them, one thing I have come to understand is, some players don't trust casinos with KYC and it is because they aren't sure if their details will be safe with them, many players would've have preferred KYC from the onset not as a surprise from the casino when players want to withdraw their win and at this point things might go wrong, the player funds might be gone just like that, some players are not just comfortable with casinos with KYC for obvious reasons.

If the government has forced the casinos to become KYC complaint, that's one aspect of getting the gamblers money track but why they also not ensure that the casinos will keep the customers KYC data save. All the focus from the regulators is to collect the KYC data but those regulators do not care if any casino misuses that data. Some casinos may even sell those KYC data to get more money and no one care about this aspect.

The point is that if the government is keen to enforce KYC they should also make casinos liable to keep that data safe and in case found any data breaches, that should be taken seriously too.  

[PrivacyG]

If the government has forced the casinos to become KYC complaint, that's one aspect of getting the gamblers money track but why they also not ensure that the casinos will keep the customers KYC data save.

Your Government cares to track you down and know where each penny that you own goes and comes from.  In most situations, when they launch such laws they come with zero preparation for the companies to get used to the new change and adapt even Security wise to it.  They are in a hurry to grab your Money through Taxes and stupid regulations.

This is why they do not care about ensuring the companies are securely storing Know Your Customer data.  They do not care about you, they care about your behavior and Money.

[bitmover]

Are these sites Decentralized too? Can I bet without deposit? Currently I can bet without deposit only on DexWin Bet or Polymarket

No. Those casinos are centralized, they just don't request KYC (at least under certain conditions).

It is very hard to achieve true decentralization in such services. Polymarket is certainly an exception

[God Of Thunder]

I think that more hornest to require KYC upon registration then during the withdrawing money.

This will actually minimize the scam-related issues. Stake is the leading casino in the world at this moment, and they require KYC upon registration. If you check the scam accusation board today, I think zero scam accusations against them were created in the last 30 days. When it comes to a casino-like BC game, you will see multiple scam accusations in the same week against them. I am not saying it is because of the KYC, BC game is a shady online casino that does not care about its customers. They have terrible customer support, which is why the players create scam accusation here and there after failing to reach the customer support.

[Bushdark]

Are these sites Decentralized too? Can I bet without deposit? Currently I can bet without deposit only on DexWin Bet or Polymarket

Take a look at what you have written and tell me if you think a casino will allow you to bet with any deposit. How is that possible if you are not kidding here. If you are using a decentralized platform, that does not mean that you are not going to make deposit before you bet. Your deposit should be what will allow you to have full access of the casino you are using and even if you are given a bonus, you will have to bet with a certain amount of your deposit for you to get full access to the bonus. No deposit, no access to the casino features.

[Lida93]

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Because lots of that situation happened from the past that's why its expected to see lots of people choose those regulated casinos rather than staying on No KYC which also have questionable reputation. Before I'm avoiding those KYC regulated casino. But now everything change and need to adopt on the changes since most of good casinos now asked KYC to their costumers.

But I still see several casino didn't required this just like this casino. But I'm afraid that they might get regulatory issue if they became a big casino.

I think people sees much advantages with centralised casinos than they do about non-regulated casinos and that's what has made every gambler fall back on regulated casinos overlooking the KYC involved. Many of the big casinos that have made popularity and good reputation for themselves started with a no KYC until they began growing and got to the size where they began having regulatory issues which in reverse led to compulsory KYC requirements from users, in other that they can still operate.

[Joy- maker]

Almost all casinos that have the no KYC mentality and the ones that have shallow KYC verifications from players do have it in the terms that they can ask you to submit your KYC verification to any level if the need arise. So that means that even though you are not obligated to do KYC, at any time, they can ask for your KYC verification even without a reason of doing that. There are so many simple but severe rules against players freedom on KYC in Casinos' terms of for users.

I am afraid I couldn't agree with the first line of your post. Not all casinos have a KYC mentality. In fact, 95% of regulated casinos are KYC-driven, and most of them do not advertise themselves as no-KYC casinos. However, there are a few KYC casinos that advertise themselves as no-KYC casinos, but reserve the right to conduct KYC according to their terms and conditions. So their ToS actually contradicts their advertisement directly.

Some casinos like Stake now even require KYC upon registration. Some allow users to make a deposit, but users need to verify their account to be able to request a withdrawal. I am sure you are aware of these things.

I have to gree with you on this one because all the casinos will see out there request for kyc, if they don't request for your KYC during the registration process, they will definitely request for it if you want to make a withdrawal. I know that Some person's will argue that casinos that are requesting for KYC are going against the decentralised ethos, although it's actually good to think that way, but I will suggest we think this way, that casinos who are requesting for KYC whether during the registration process or whenever you want initiate a withdrawal, are trying to prevent fraud and money laundry. Now let's assume someone got access to your gambling account with the intention to steal your funds, do you think the person will successful steal your funds if the gambling platform request for kyc before any fund can be move out of your gambling account?

[God Of Thunder]

Now let's assume someone got access to your gambling account with the intention to steal your funds, do you think the person will successful steal your funds if the gambling platform request for kyc before any fund can be move out of your gambling account?

Well, it won't be possible if the casino triggers KYC during the withdrawal process. But believe me, KYC does not keep your account safe. What if someone gains access to your account, which is already KYC verified? The KYC won't help you this time. The hacker will be able to withdraw your funds because it is already verified. But let's forget about it because nobody keeps funds on a casino website these days.

I do not do it, and I want to believe most people do not do it either. I make a deposit whenever I want to gamble, either I lose all, or I withdraw the funds and it happens in a single session. People keep their funds on sportsbooks only if they bet on sports and place bets a couple of days before the match start.