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[bitmover]

Yes, some ask depending on the amount you win, if the money is very huge they'll feel you're trying to launder money with their platforms and request for it, although it's true that some use it as a market strateg, knowing fully well that lots of gamblers would prefer casinos that offers privacy to one's that would require them to expose their important documents online. Just that some gamblers don't read TOS to see where casinos that claim to be KYC free specify that they have the right to change their policy if need be.

This makes no sense. If you win big, there is no money to be launder. You sent a few bucks and you are withdrawing thousands of dollars that you made betting.

Launder money would be a situation where you sent a big amount of dirty money before betting. It would make sense to convert to another coin and withdrawal, or make a few low risk bets and withdrawal another coin, etc.  Just to get different coins

[SilverCryptoBullet]

Yes, some ask depending on the amount you win, if the money is very huge they'll feel you're trying to launder money with their platforms and request for it, although it's true that some use it as a market strateg, knowing fully well that lots of gamblers would prefer casinos that offers privacy to one's that would require them to expose their important documents online. Just that some gamblers don't read TOS to see where casinos that claim to be KYC free specify that they have the right to change their policy if need be.

It's not like this.

Laundering money is when you deposit your money and withdraw it without playing or limited bets. If you bet normally, bet a lot and later win big, it's not money laundering but perhaps casino will try to investigate whether you cheat their casino. If no cheating found, they will pay you for your big wins, it's only possible issues of how you bet and win, and it's not related to your fund deposited to their casino.

Generally, KYC card can be used by many casinos but in different ways, some will write it clearly in ToS as mandatory KYC for better AML, some will not write it in ToS or write it vaguely and they can pull the KYC card against users when they don't want to pay you or see that your account has suspicious activities.

[arwin100]

Yes, some ask depending on the amount you win, if the money is very huge they'll feel you're trying to launder money with their platforms and request for it, although it's true that some use it as a market strateg, knowing fully well that lots of gamblers would prefer casinos that offers privacy to one's that would require them to expose their important documents online. Just that some gamblers don't read TOS to see where casinos that claim to be KYC free specify that they have the right to change their policy if need be.

This makes no sense. If you win big, there is no money to be launder. You sent a few bucks and you are withdrawing thousands of dollars that you made betting.

Launder money would be a situation where you sent a big amount of dirty money before betting. It would make sense to convert to another coin and withdrawal, or make a few low risk bets and withdrawal another coin, etc.  Just to get different coins

Right, since winning big from small amount they bet is not really a case of laundering. That's provably legit withdrawal especially if the money came from their winning, I don't see any disguising and doing such illegal act with that scenario.

Money laundering schemes would only happen if they try place low risk and small bets for a while then immediately withdraw their funds then they try to make it look like those funds they withdraw is clean which came from the casino.

[Gentle_Soul]

Exactly! I have seen someone complaining bitterly in one of the casino announcement thread, they asked him KYC to withdraw which he was not willing to do that and he wants his money.  If casinos will ask KYC later in the future when the gambler win big or in the tone of withdrawal, they should make it clear at the beginning so they will prepare themselves. I gambled in a new casino this week, and I withdraw the small winning without KYC.

Yes, some ask depending on the amount you win, if the money is very huge they'll feel you're trying to launder money with their platforms and request for it, although it's true that some use it as a market strateg, knowing fully well that lots of gamblers would prefer casinos that offers privacy to one's that would require them to expose their important documents online. Just that some gamblers don't read TOS to see where casinos that claim to be KYC free specify that they have the right to change their policy if need be.

The thing is casinos should stop the idea of kyc free when somewhere along the line they will definitely request for kyc it doesn't make sense at all it looks somehow like they are kind of manipulating people into using there casino and later hold there funds because of kyc because offcourse there a lot of people who obviously will not want to use a casino if kyc is operational or mentioned from the start due to personal security reasons.

[Coloma612]

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[Zwei]

We are hosting a 500$ Wagering Contest

    is there a leaderboard where we can track the progress of the contest in real time? it is always better when the wagering stats are transparent for all participants

the contest is already over. if you bothered to click the link (which you removed after you quoted that post) you would have known that. but i don't think you care since you are only here to spam.

OP, maybe it's time to remove "500$ wagering contest" from the title and the topic?

[noorman0]

The thing is casinos should stop the idea of kyc free when somewhere along the line they will definitely request for kyc it doesn't make sense at all it looks somehow like they are kind of manipulating people into using there casino and later hold there funds because of kyc because offcourse there a lot of people who obviously will not want to use a casino if kyc is operational or mentioned from the start due to personal security reasons.

You can base your assumption that "no KYC" is nonsense as long as they have an AML terms and are partners with the gaming providers. Consider them simply delaying your KYC process until your account is upgraded (making your first withdrawal indicates a tier 1 upgrade; and you should be prepared for verification requests at any time from then on.

[Hazink]

Exactly! I have seen someone complaining bitterly in one of the casino announcement thread, they asked him KYC to withdraw which he was not willing to do that and he wants his money.  If casinos will ask KYC later in the future when the gambler win big or in the tone of withdrawal, they should make it clear at the beginning so they will prepare themselves. I gambled in a new casino this week, and I withdraw the small winning without KYC.

Do you know that most of this casinos don't just come out with thesethese KYC rules out of no where some might but when you check some of the cases this casinos actually do have them on their policy because they did not ask you to verify first before using their casinos doesn't mean you won't be asked to verify when something is off, if anyone is afraid of given out their document they should avoid using casinos which have KYC as part of their policy as long as you agreed with the terms and conditions you should either obey or live the money with them.

[Franklyn-wood]

Exactly! I have seen someone complaining bitterly in one of the casino announcement thread, they asked him KYC to withdraw which he was not willing to do that and he wants his money.  If casinos will ask KYC later in the future when the gambler win big or in the tone of withdrawal, they should make it clear at the beginning so they will prepare themselves. I gambled in a new casino this week, and I withdraw the small winning without KYC.

Do you know that most of this casinos don't just come out with thesethese KYC rules out of no where some might but when you check some of the cases this casinos actually do have them on their policy because they did not ask you to verify first before using their casinos doesn't mean you won't be asked to verify when something is off, if anyone is afraid of given out their document they should avoid using casinos which have KYC as part of their policy as long as you agreed with the terms and conditions you should either obey or live the money with them.

I have thought of this too, and could because the are avoiding any situation that will limit people from patronizing them, so they arrangements of there rules can be very tactical so as to allow more people engage and after wards they will be left with no choice than to comply to the rules and regulations of the site.
I have also noticed that the important side of the rules governing the site are mostly between the long elaborate writeup which many don't have the time to read through it.

[Joy- maker]

The thing is casinos should stop the idea of kyc free when somewhere along the line they will definitely request for kyc it doesn't make sense at all it looks somehow like they are kind of manipulating people into using there casino and later hold there funds because of kyc because offcourse there a lot of people who obviously will not want to use a casino if kyc is operational or mentioned from the start due to personal security reasons.

There is something I would like you to understand about casinos, casinos trick people by saying that they are KYC free why they not. only few persons understand this trick from casinos. Casinos can mislead gamblers by advertising themselves as KYC free, but deep down that is what they mean, what they actually mean is that no KYC during registration.

Outside this trick,  casinos do request for KYC when they notice unusual activity in any of their customer's account. I know that this act can provoke people a lot, but when you look at it from another angle, they are requesting for KYC to be sure that their customer account is been operated by the real owner. And this also apply when a large withdrawal is initiated for the first time.  And this act is to be sure that they're giving the winning to real owner.

[Promocodeudo]

Exactly! I have seen someone complaining bitterly in one of the casino announcement thread, they asked him KYC to withdraw which he was not willing to do that and he wants his money.  If casinos will ask KYC later in the future when the gambler win big or in the tone of withdrawal, they should make it clear at the beginning so they will prepare themselves. I gambled in a new casino this week, and I withdraw the small winning without KYC.

Don't you think that any casino asking for KYC when a player has won big amount might be doing that intentionally in a calculated attempt to prevent the player from withdrawing his winning, I agree with you that it will be better for casinos to make things known to players from the onset if they will be needing anything like KYC from them in the future but i still believe that situation can call for urgent need of KYC which should be communicated to all players,that apart,  it becomes suspicious when casinos ask for KYC when a player luckily win, my question is why didn't they ask for it earlier, why asking when there's winning.

[khaled0111]

There is something I would like you to understand about casinos, casinos trick people by saying that they are KYC free why they not. only few persons understand this trick from casinos. Casinos can mislead gamblers by advertising themselves as KYC free, but deep down that is what they mean, what they actually mean is that no KYC during registration.

I know that many members won’t agree with this but, to me, as long as the casino only requests identity verification for a limited number of users who are suspected of suspicious activity, then I wouldn’t call it tricking or lying (this needs to be mentioned clearly in their terms).
When a casino notices that a user is trying to cheat or abuse their system (especially in cases of multi-accounting) then I don’t know what else they can do to protect themselves except imposing kyc on that user in order to identify all of his other alt accounts and prevent him from using their services in the future.

[Bushdark]

Exactly! I have seen someone complaining bitterly in one of the casino announcement thread, they asked him KYC to withdraw which he was not willing to do that and he wants his money.  If casinos will ask KYC later in the future when the gambler win big or in the tone of withdrawal, they should make it clear at the beginning so they will prepare themselves. I gambled in a new casino this week, and I withdraw the small winning without KYC.

Yes, some ask depending on the amount you win, if the money is very huge they'll feel you're trying to launder money with their platforms and request for it, although it's true that some use it as a market strateg, knowing fully well that lots of gamblers would prefer casinos that offers privacy to one's that would require them to expose their important documents online. Just that some gamblers don't read TOS to see where casinos that claim to be KYC free specify that they have the right to change their policy if need be.

The proper way to make a deposit on any casino is to first make a smaller deposit, play games and if you exhaust the money, you can make another deposit which could be higher than the first deposit. In this way, the casino can understand that you are a true gambler and you can continue to increase the deposit as time goes on but if you make your first time deposit to be high more than the expected amount, and after then you play few games and you want to withdraw, that behavior can be suspicious.

[khaled0111]

The proper way to make a deposit on any casino is to first make a smaller deposit, play games and if you exhaust the money, you can make another deposit which could be higher than the first deposit. In this way, the casino can understand that you are a true gambler and you can continue to increase the deposit as time goes on but if you make your first time deposit to be high more than the expected amount, and after then you play few games and you want to withdraw, that behavior can be suspicious.

I get your point and it makes sense but the question here is how much is this "expected" amount and who defines it? We know that there are different types of players ranging from small players to high rollers and each of them have very different gambling budgets. What might seem like a small amount for one person could seem like a fortune to another person.
Besides, if casinos’ anti-cheating systems rely only on this approach, then smart individuals can easily exploit it and find ways around it. They will simply do exactly what the casino’s system expects a legitimate user to do in order to avoid suspicions.

[btcfinans]

The proper way to make a deposit on any casino is to first make a smaller deposit, play games and if you exhaust the money, you can make another deposit which could be higher than the first deposit. In this way, the casino can understand that you are a true gambler and you can continue to increase the deposit as time goes on but if you make your first time deposit to be high more than the expected amount, and after then you play few games and you want to withdraw, that behavior can be suspicious.

I get your point and it makes sense but the question here is how much is this "expected" amount and who defines it? We know that there are different types of players ranging from small players to high rollers and each of them have very different gambling budgets. What might seem like a small amount for one person could seem like a fortune to another person.
Besides, if casinos’ anti-cheating systems rely only on this approach, then smart individuals can easily exploit it and find ways around it. They will simply do exactly what the casino’s system expects a legitimate user to do in order to avoid suspicions.

You raise a fair point. The “expected” amount cannot really be a fixed number because, as you said, players range from small bettors to high rollers with very different bankrolls. In practice, most systems do not look at a single amount but at patterns of behavior over time. This includes bet size relative to the account’s history, betting frequency, variance, win and loss cycles, and other indicators. The baseline is usually defined dynamically from a player’s own activity together with broader statistical models of normal play.

That said, I agree that relying only on behavioral expectations would be weak. Any detection system based purely on predictable thresholds can eventually be studied and imitated. That is why most modern anti-cheating or risk systems combine several layers such as statistical analysis, anomaly detection, timing patterns, device and network signals, and sometimes manual review. The goal is not just to check whether someone appears “normal” on the surface, but whether their behavior stays consistent across multiple dimensions.

So while a smart individual might try to mimic what the system expects, doing that consistently across all those signals becomes much harder in practice.

[stadus]

In this way, the casino can understand that you are a true gambler ....

Where did you get this idea? Do you really believe that casinos make judgments based on how much you wager?
They have limits and minimums, that’s all they care about. And the problems that some users face are not based on how much they bet but on how they violate the TOS.

Tell me, is there something in the TOS that says a gambler is not allowed to bet big money when opening an account or that they are required to gradually increase it? I doubt you can see one.

[Odohu]

The proper way to make a deposit on any casino is to first make a smaller deposit, play games and if you exhaust the money, you can make another deposit which could be higher than the first deposit. In this way, the casino can understand that you are a true gambler and you can continue to increase the deposit as time goes on but if you make your first time deposit to be high more than the expected amount, and after then you play few games and you want to withdraw, that behavior can be suspicious.

I don't really understand how you came to this conclusion, it is not making any sense because making deposit in incremental pattern has never been a way casinos identify who a real player is and who is not. Remember that during registration and sometimes login, there is a captcha that identify if the user is human, that is how Casinos simply set their rules in their TOS and expect everyone to play by those rules, if an alien is able to registers account in the casino and play by the rules, the casino will not have a problem with such alien.

[MainIbem]

The thing is casinos should stop the idea of kyc free when somewhere along the line they will definitely request for kyc it doesn't make sense at all it looks somehow like they are kind of manipulating people into using there casino and later hold there funds because of kyc because offcourse there a lot of people who obviously will not want to use a casino if kyc is operational or mentioned from the start due to personal security reasons.

I get your point mate, I'll feel so bad if a casino that claims to be KYC free later wants me to KYC on the longrun to withdraw maybe a huge amount I won. But I'm glad you've understand that (KYC free) is just a strategy that many casinos use to attract more customers, knowing fully well that the majority values privacy than exposing their details online.

[Herold]

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The prize pool is good but how do you handle winners privacy for this wagering contest. I want to be sure that claiming the prize will not require any personal documents later especially given the name of the project.

[Lida93]

Someone told me that all casinos do scam but for some is at random, which is once in a long while but it's hard to easily identify it with those big casinos that have already gained huge market and made good popular reputable for itself. It's easier to catch the small driving ones whether they use KYC tactics or other means, just to deny a lucky gambler some huge funds won.

No, not all casinos do scam. Some people claim a casino scammed them, but it's just a misunderstanding between them and the casino. Most times, it is a result of a mistake made by gamblers. I have seen someone accuse a casino when he did not read the casino's policies before creating an account on their platform. Later on, when he had issues of withrawal, he accused the casino of being a false scam. As a gambler, before accusing a casino of scam, make sure you find out if you are at fault first.

Oh yeah actually wanted to say some and not ALL because logically it can't be all the casinos that are into scamming their customers. And it's just as you explained, for some customers they really feel lazy to go through the few necessary informations in the ToS of the casino they're to use knowing well that all casinos policies can't be same so they can't assume that a new casino could be just same as an old casino they've being gambling with. And that's how misunderstandings and accusations starts to build.