Learning from those who have experience

[aylabadia05]

Thank you for providing advice on what steps to take, everyone has their own story and way of doing this, I would like to thank @Drawesome @Die_empty @Kakmakr @bitbollo and @aylabadia05 for providing the steps directly, it would be very useful for me in dealing with this, and on average it conveys the same pattern that I can say it is a credible step to take.
Sorry I can't reply one by one, but I thank you again for the people who have given their advice.

How big is your addiction level that you feel you need tips to get rid of your gambling addiction?
I'm not really sure that you have a big addiction to gambling because not all of your money is used for gambling. My guess is that you only use a small portion of your money for gambling because you also have other needs.

The desire to stop gambling is a quite positive initiative because it can bring about extraordinary changes to financial management. However, all the advice given will be useless if the motivation from within you is not strong. If so, then no more all such suggestions are nonsense.

Just forget what we have said and we are happy if you can apply everything we have said. Good luck.

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[BitcoinPanther]

It is easy to recover from addiction if you have self-control, but if you do not have that, you will not be addicted to gambling, or even if you have control over everything, you won't get addicted. When recovering from addiction, you should have consistency because there are others who tried to minimize their hours of playing for a few days, but after that, they are back to spending too many hours on gambling that they shouldn't, as they are already committed to stopping their addiction by limiting the hours. Also, quitting instantly won't help because you will really find a way to get back. It is better to make it slowly before you quit, as it is less painful and more effective.

Interesting, in most cases, I see the phenomenon of addicts who have difficulty recovering from their addiction. IMO, as far as I know, also referring to my personal experience, self-control does not guarantee that someone will be able to avoid the effects of addiction. Talking about self-control is not as easy as what we talk about. in fact, we have to involve many other elements or factors. For me, self-control is a complement, because there are other elements that are guidelines that gamblers should have if they don't want to become addicts. The problem is, when we play or bet, emotional factors will play a role in our gambling session. When we are in lucky mode, emotions of joy will fill our adrenaline. but in this phase, sometimes we don't know the right time to stop.

I agree with you, when a person got addicted, the first thing that he losses is the self control.  Just like in gambling, a gambler in the beginning have all the control in his gambling engagement but once he got hooked and his discipline starts deteriorating, he will be having a hard time to stop or moderate his own gambling session.  The difference between a gambler when he is starting out is that he can control his gambling urge while when he got addicted to gambling, the urge to gamble in uncontrollable.  So anyone who is addicted really needs a third party support and understanding. Aside from that the gambling addict also needs medical treatment to get cured and at the same time prevent lapses. 

So we should always make sure while we still have control over our gambling session that we gamble responsibly and moderate our engagement with gambling.  Learn from others experience and set it as an example or warning so that we can avoid gambling addiction and keep ourselves sane.

[Cryptmuster]

Learning from experienced players how to control our gambling habits is the best method to escape addiction. Most times it's best to have them around you in real life, watch how they go about their daily activities, it'll help the addicted player to shape his/her bad gambling attitude. One of the things to learn from experts, may include, managing our money by setting out a specific amount that we must stake for the day. If exhausted gambling for the day ends.

The worst part of addiction, is lack of self control. If an addicted person doesn't manage their funds,  when they go broke, you'll see that such person will do anything possible just to gamble or win. Another good strategy is to stay with people friends or relatives who are not gamblers, join them in their daily activities, like sports or useful discussions. This will help the addicted player to forget gambling for some times, thereby reducing the urge to gamble as usual.

How do you imagine it, someone should constantly be near you while you study? It doesn’t work like that, everything happens the other way, you make a mistake and try to understand what needs to be changed so that it doesn’t happen again, in fact, for this you need to make a lot of mistakes that will help you make your own rules that will help you become a better gambler. If you are unable to learn from mistakes, then no experienced teacher will help you...

[Gozie51]

Learning from experienced players how to control our gambling habits is the best method to escape addiction. Most times it's best to have them around you in real life, watch how they go about their daily activities, it'll help the addicted player to shape his/her bad gambling attitude. One of the things to learn from experts, may include, managing our money by setting out a specific amount that we must stake for the day. If exhausted gambling for the day ends.

The worst part of addiction, is lack of self control. If an addicted person doesn't manage their funds,  when they go broke, you'll see that such person will do anything possible just to gamble or win. Another good strategy is to stay with people friends or relatives who are not gamblers, join them in their daily activities, like sports or useful discussions. This will help the addicted player to forget gambling for some times, thereby reducing the urge to gamble as usual.

How do you imagine it, someone should constantly be near you while you study? It doesn’t work like that, everything happens the other way, you make a mistake and try to understand what needs to be changed so that it doesn’t happen again, in fact, for this you need to make a lot of mistakes that will help you make your own rules that will help you become a better gambler. If you are unable to learn from mistakes, then no experienced teacher will help you...

The best teacher in terms of gambling is what we have come to tell ourselves, the realities that have come to our faces and one of it is that if we lack the finance to keep playing hugely the way we use to play then our addiction will start to reduce. If you have a reduced playing time because of lack of money and no one to borrow from, naturally the habit will be curtailed to bearest minimum and with time even if we come back, we should have learnt our lessons and play reasonably.

It is not a source of income, this is another factor that will help an addict gambler to be cautious of what he is doing. This factor is difficult to be assimilated by those who see it as source of income but that is the reality, gambling is not a means of source of income because it doesn't profit you all the time.

[Jody.Drummer]

How do you imagine it, someone should constantly be near you while you study? It doesn’t work like that, everything happens the other way, you make a mistake and try to understand what needs to be changed so that it doesn’t happen again, in fact, for this you need to make a lot of mistakes that will help you make your own rules that will help you become a better gambler. If you are unable to learn from mistakes, then no experienced teacher will help you...

The best teacher in terms of gambling is what we have come to tell ourselves, the realities that have come to our faces and one of it is that if we lack the finance to keep playing hugely the way we use to play then our addiction will start to reduce. If you have a reduced playing time because of lack of money and no one to borrow from, naturally the habit will be curtailed to bearest minimum and with time even if we come back, we should have learnt our lessons and play reasonably.

It is not a source of income, this is another factor that will help an addict gambler to be cautious of what he is doing. This factor is difficult to be assimilated by those who see it as source of income but that is the reality, gambling is not a means of source of income because it doesn't profit you all the time.

Maybe you mean that the best teacher in gambling is the first with the bitter experience we have experienced and the second is by looking at the downturn of others, well that's very true, indirectly by for example seeing the downturn of others then surely at least we will be more discouraged to continue gambling, and maybe by trying slowly to stop from that activity. In my opinion, if you have run out of money, it is better for you to rest than to borrow from others to gamble again, because obviously the final result is not necessarily winning but losing is very possible. Remember rest is very important, don't stay there too long because not only do you lose money but you might also get stressed.

Well that's very clear, I also never thought there would be people who have the mindset of gambling to make money or even consistently it's just nonsense. So the point is how can a result that only relies on luck be made as a place to earn income, it doesn't make sense.

[Crypt0Gore]

I want to ask those of you who have a hard addiction experience in gambling and then you can treat it yourself, and today still playing gambling but with the principle of good management and financial management in gambling.
I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

"I want to find out because I think your experience in the case as I mentioned will be useful for readers, especially for me personally"

The perfect way to break free from gambling addiction is to understand how gambling truly works, know the facts, and accept the facts, gambling is wired in a way that it favors the casinos more than the gamblers.

If you can understand this very well you will see the true image of gambling and it's not worth taking unnecessary risks on, It's not a do-or-die something, your business and your other investment ways are better than gambling.

Those who get addicted to gambling lacks a true understanding of what gambling is, or probably they are the one that is fooling themselves, It's possible to understand gambling and still get addicted but such people are fools, your friend can make a lot of money from gambling and that doesn't mean you will get the same luck.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Thank you for providing advice on what steps to take, everyone has their own story and way of doing this, I would like to thank @Drawesome @Die_empty @Kakmakr @bitbollo and @aylabadia05 for providing the steps directly, it would be very useful for me in dealing with this, and on average it conveys the same pattern that I can say it is a credible step to take.
Sorry I can't reply one by one, but I thank you again for the people who have given their advice.

How big is your addiction level that you feel you need tips to get rid of your gambling addiction?
I'm not really sure that you have a big addiction to gambling because not all of your money is used for gambling. My guess is that you only use a small portion of your money for gambling because you also have other needs.

I guess the simply answer is that your priority is gambling, simply as that. In my case during that time, even if I have work, then I will gamble till the early part of the morning, to the point that I can't go and come to the office the next day because I have lose so much money and then I don't have enough sleep.

The desire to stop gambling is a quite positive initiative because it can bring about extraordinary changes to financial management. However, all the advice given will be useless if the motivation from within you is not strong. If so, then no more all such suggestions are nonsense.

Just forget what we have said and we are happy if you can apply everything we have said. Good luck.

Well as for my experience, I really have to learn it the hard way when I lost my job. And so the the following days I have to scramble and how to make money again for my gambling and for my kids and how to bring food in the table. So I guess that is the way up call for me to get out of my gambling addiction and to totally break from it. And with that, although I'm stlll gambling in sports betting and then playing slots in land base and offline, I come to realized that I have been wrong in the past with myself becoming a gambling addict.

[khiholangkang]

Thank you for providing advice on what steps to take, everyone has their own story and way of doing this, I would like to thank @Drawesome @Die_empty @Kakmakr @bitbollo and @aylabadia05 for providing the steps directly, it would be very useful for me in dealing with this, and on average it conveys the same pattern that I can say it is a credible step to take.
Sorry I can't reply one by one, but I thank you again for the people who have given their advice.

How big is your addiction level that you feel you need tips to get rid of your gambling addiction?
I'm not really sure that you have a big addiction to gambling because not all of your money is used for gambling. My guess is that you only use a small portion of your money for gambling because you also have other needs.

The desire to stop gambling is a quite positive initiative because it can bring about extraordinary changes to financial management. However, all the advice given will be useless if the motivation from within you is not strong. If so, then no more all such suggestions are nonsense.

Just forget what we have said and we are happy if you can apply everything we have said. Good luck.

I am confused about how much gambling addiction I experience today, because there are no concrete parameters to indicate the level or amount.
The small amount of money that I budget for my gambling is true, but sometimes there are many X factors that make me make deposits continuously, whether it's the environment, feelings and others that can make me impulsive in gambling, so with advice from friends it will be useful for me .

I opened this thread based on my personal desire to find out what I should do, if I didn't care about advice maybe I wouldn't open this thread, that's logical.
And these past few days I've been doing it gradually, and I think I'm better than before.

[summonerrk]

I want to ask those of you who have a hard addiction experience in gambling and then you can treat it yourself, and today still playing gambling but with the principle of good management and financial management in gambling.
I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

"I want to find out because I think your experience in the case as I mentioned will be useful for readers, especially for me personally"

According to statistics, only a small percentage of players recover from gambling addiction on their own. This is because the approach to treatment draws attention to many factors:
1) the age of the player - I think the younger the player, the harder his gambling addiction is. Young people do not know how to earn money with an honest qualified shopping mall, and when they win and get a large amount of money, they are almost unstoppable.
2) the presence of gamblers-friends and how many of them are dependent - no comments here, the environment strongly affects us.
3) the presence of money in the family - the rich are more addicted.

[aylabadia05]

I am confused about how much gambling addiction I experience today, because there are no concrete parameters to indicate the level or amount.
The small amount of money that I budget for my gambling is true, but sometimes there are many X factors that make me make deposits continuously, whether it's the environment, feelings and others that can make me impulsive in gambling, so with advice from friends it will be useful for me .

I opened this thread based on my personal desire to find out what I should do, if I didn't care about advice maybe I wouldn't open this thread, that's logical.
And these past few days I've been doing it gradually, and I think I'm better than before.

Aren't you offended by what I have said. I think that is not true because you know that the discussion you are making is for the purpose of change for gambling addicts even though other members have already opened topics like this.

You want to know why I asked you about the level of addiction you have. Many people ask how to stop addiction even though they only mean something else, one of which is to make them look serious about it.
The old me barely knew how to stop making deposits to be able to play. Not enough from morning to evening, continue again at night. Not much if the exchange rate is in dollars, but if the exchange rate is in fiat currency, a day and a night are quite large.

I give advice based on my experience. So now I've stopped playing. The answer is no. I still actively play but only on weekends at football matches.
A close friend of mine once asked me how I could stop using my old habits. After I gave it to him and he couldn't do it until now his habit hasn't changed. That's what I mean, it's useless to give advice or ways to stop addiction given by everyone on this topic if there is no motivation from within yourself.

Hopefully you can get through it.

[Z390]

By default I've always grow the fear of gambling addiction and that's coming from experience in my local area where lives of men turned upside down because of gambling addiction, they later result into drinking heavily and that makes them turn into drunkard because they can't get over the losses and damages they have done.

It's terrifying as a kid to grow up seeing such things unfold and at that time I have always promised my parents to never grow up to be a gambler, I know that gambling is not the issue here but the impact it could create on someone's life is very scary.

Today I do gamble on a few casinos but damn I am very active inside of me, the past stories of those men living close to us still haunt me, I don't want to end up like them that's why I cautiously engage in gambling activities.

[abel1337]

By default I've always grow the fear of gambling addiction and that's coming from experience in my local area where lives of men turned upside down because of gambling addiction, they later result into drinking heavily and that makes them turn into drunkard because they can't get over the losses and damages they have done.

It's terrifying as a kid to grow up seeing such things unfold and at that time I have always promised my parents to never grow up to be a gambler, I know that gambling is not the issue here but the impact it could create on someone's life is very scary.

Today I do gamble on a few casinos but damn I am very active inside of me, the past stories of those men living close to us still haunt me, I don't want to end up like them that's why I cautiously engage in gambling activities.

It's the fear that make you avoid being an addict. Maybe it's a good thing I guess? Though you still gamble with the caution of not turning into an addict. Being addicted to something really turn the table upside down, there are bunch of vices that you can be addicted but one thing is for sure, it can possibly destroy your life and gradually affect you in aspects of life like mentally, physically and financially. I myself learned from my own experience of being an addict and now that I recovered, I'm trying my best not to be the same man that is being destroyed because of gambling addiction.

[qwertyup23]

I want to ask those of you who have a hard addiction experience in gambling and then you can treat it yourself, and today still playing gambling but with the principle of good management and financial management in gambling.
I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

I am not speaking of personal experience but I have witnessed someone making a big comeback from gambling addiction.

I remembered that my friend used to tell me stories about his relative that was suffering from drug and gambling addiction. It came to a point where that person sold the personal belongings of his mother just to satisfy the cravings of drug and gambling addiction. In fact, there were also times were this addict threatened his own life while he was so high with drugs. But after that experience, everything went uphill due to his urge to change his lifestyle.

My friend told me that the journey took roughly years for him to recover and be sober. Gladly enough, that relative is now 7 years sober and he is drug and gambling-free!

[CODE200]

By default I've always grow the fear of gambling addiction and that's coming from experience in my local area where lives of men turned upside down because of gambling addiction, they later result into drinking heavily and that makes them turn into drunkard because they can't get over the losses and damages they have done.

It's terrifying as a kid to grow up seeing such things unfold and at that time I have always promised my parents to never grow up to be a gambler, I know that gambling is not the issue here but the impact it could create on someone's life is very scary.

Today I do gamble on a few casinos but damn I am very active inside of me, the past stories of those men living close to us still haunt me, I don't want to end up like them that's why I cautiously engage in gambling activities.

Fear has always been connoted as something that is cowardly, but I think having fear is actually a great thing because it helps us to be cautious and careful about such things. It help us to avoid possible consequences that we might encounter along the way. I am sorry to hear that you have to experience and witness such things at such a very young age. But what you've done is right, you turn those experiences into a positive thing and make it as a lesson so that you will not have to experience what these men had suffered from. But still, these gambling addicts need attention and care, because if we took immediate action we can stop their addiction from getting worse.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I want to ask those of you who have a hard addiction experience in gambling and then you can treat it yourself, and today still playing gambling but with the principle of good management and financial management in gambling.
I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

"I want to find out because I think your experience in the case as I mentioned will be useful for readers, especially for me personally"

I have never been addicted to gambling before , but I have have a couple of friends who have been addicted to gambling, though it was a long time ago and we are separated now, but before we got separated, one of them managed to gain freedom from the addiction, but this was after he gambled away money a group of individuals contributed and gave him to keep, probably that was when his eyes got opened and he realized how much damage gambling has done to him, he was arrested and he spent about 3 months in a police cell, there was no gambling facility there so probably his long stay in the cell without access to gambling helped him heal from the addiction .

When he eventually came out from police custody after 3 months, he wasnt gambling anymore, when you talk to him about gambling, he assumes you are mocking him and picks up a fight with you ..

We still communicate on the phone though and I am glad he is doing really well today, even though he now gambles again from time to time, he is no longer addicted to it .

[maydna]

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Of course, whether a regular gambler or an addicted gambler wants to stop or reduce his gambling activities, it depends on the gambler's awareness and serious intentions. And if there is no serious intention they will continue gambling until they realize it after their life becomes poor, and this often happens and they stop and realize it after losing everything.
Gambling activities are not an opportunity to seek passive income, because winnings in gambling are inconsistent and if they cannot be controlled it will actually make the gambler suffer.

That's true because if the gambler has no serious awareness and intention, he will not be able to stop or reduce his gambling activities. Everything will return to the person who lives it, and even if someone forces him to stop gambling, he still can't stop, and he might gamble secretly. And even though his life has become poor, he still cannot give up gambling, he will return to gambling, but maybe his gambling will adjust to his finances. Gambling activities are only for fun and entertainment, so they cannot use it as a way to make money, let alone passive income. They should know that it will be difficult for them to win regularly because gambling is not designed to give wins to the gambler but to the casino.

[slapper]

How do you imagine it, someone should constantly be near you while you study? It doesn’t work like that, everything happens the other way, you make a mistake and try to understand what needs to be changed so that it doesn’t happen again, in fact, for this you need to make a lot of mistakes that will help you make your own rules that will help you become a better gambler. If you are unable to learn from mistakes, then no experienced teacher will help you...

The best teacher in terms of gambling is what we have come to tell ourselves, the realities that have come to our faces and one of it is that if we lack the finance to keep playing hugely the way we use to play then our addiction will start to reduce. If you have a reduced playing time because of lack of money and no one to borrow from, naturally the habit will be curtailed to bearest minimum and with time even if we come back, we should have learnt our lessons and play reasonably.

It is not a source of income, this is another factor that will help an addict gambler to be cautious of what he is doing. This factor is difficult to be assimilated by those who see it as source of income but that is the reality, gambling is not a means of source of income because it doesn't profit you all the time.

Maybe you mean that the best teacher in gambling is the first with the bitter experience we have experienced and the second is by looking at the downturn of others, well that's very true, indirectly by for example seeing the downturn of others then surely at least we will be more discouraged to continue gambling, and maybe by trying slowly to stop from that activity. In my opinion, if you have run out of money, it is better for you to rest than to borrow from others to gamble again, because obviously the final result is not necessarily winning but losing is very possible. Remember rest is very important, don't stay there too long because not only do you lose money but you might also get stressed.

Well that's very clear, I also never thought there would be people who have the mindset of gambling to make money or even consistently it's just nonsense. So the point is how can a result that only relies on luck be made as a place to earn income, it doesn't make sense.

It seems like a dice roll can impart a semester's worth of life lessons. However, "discouraged to continue gambling" may be underestimated. Do you think watching someone else fall might make you want to win, ironically? Borrowing money to keep gambling is clearly a terrible decision. More casino debts are like holes on a sinking ship - the faster you sink. Gambling as a source of income is like chasing rainbows for gold. The charm fades under inspection. Unpredictability is a career gamble, not a business model

[Kasabus]

Learning from experienced players how to control our gambling habits is the best method to escape addiction. Most times it's best to have them around you in real life, watch how they go about their daily activities, it'll help the addicted player to shape his/her bad gambling attitude. One of the things to learn from experts, may include, managing our money by setting out a specific amount that we must stake for the day. If exhausted gambling for the day ends.

The worst part of addiction, is lack of self control. If an addicted person doesn't manage their funds,  when they go broke, you'll see that such person will do anything possible just to gamble or win. Another good strategy is to stay with people friends or relatives who are not gamblers, join them in their daily activities, like sports or useful discussions. This will help the addicted player to forget gambling for some times, thereby reducing the urge to gamble as usual.

How do you imagine it, someone should constantly be near you while you study? It doesn’t work like that, everything happens the other way, you make a mistake and try to understand what needs to be changed so that it doesn’t happen again, in fact, for this you need to make a lot of mistakes that will help you make your own rules that will help you become a better gambler. If you are unable to learn from mistakes, then no experienced teacher will help you...

@Accardo also have a point and we should give him that, but I think there's something missing because you can never have both when it comes to these things. I know what he is trying to say but what he is trying to suggest is also a very risky path because instead of learning from other's mistake by keeping them near, they will in turn give you a negative impact and you will be a gambler as well even before you realized it. Taking this path is not easy but if you're courageous enough, then it's up to you but you should know the risks and its consequence if it turns out trouble along the road.

[Westinhome]

That's true because if the gambler has no serious awareness and intention, he will not be able to stop or reduce his gambling activities. Everything will return to the person who lives it, and even if someone forces him to stop gambling, he still can't stop, and he might gamble secretly. And even though his life has become poor, he still cannot give up gambling, he will return to gambling, but maybe his gambling will adjust to his finances. Gambling activities are only for fun and entertainment, so they cannot use it as a way to make money, let alone passive income. They should know that it will be difficult for them to win regularly because gambling is not designed to give wins to the gambler but to the casino.

If you find the people who had quit the gambling after the addiction,you can use their strategy to reduce the gambling activities.Many gamblers won’t quit the gambling after the advice from the other friends.Because his mind will not accept the other words,the gambler start to play the game secretly.Some gambler are taking the gambling as the serious one,they forgot the fact gambling is just for the fun.The gambling had the enough entertainment giving possibilities.The gambler should use the gambling to get away from all the stress factor due to their real job stress.

[Maslate]

That's true because if the gambler has no serious awareness and intention, he will not be able to stop or reduce his gambling activities. Everything will return to the person who lives it, and even if someone forces him to stop gambling, he still can't stop, and he might gamble secretly. And even though his life has become poor, he still cannot give up gambling, he will return to gambling, but maybe his gambling will adjust to his finances. Gambling activities are only for fun and entertainment, so they cannot use it as a way to make money, let alone passive income. They should know that it will be difficult for them to win regularly because gambling is not designed to give wins to the gambler but to the casino.

If you find the people who had quit the gambling after the addiction,you can use their strategy to reduce the gambling activities.Many gamblers won’t quit the gambling after the advice from the other friends.Because his mind will not accept the other words,the gambler start to play the game secretly.

You will not get addicted if you know how to handle things yourself and just having an idea what these addicts will do will be sufficient enough for you to stay in the safe zone. Gambling might be hard to ignore but this is just a challenge that we need to endure if we are really inclined to gamble and we need to face it so that we cannot be one of those list who need help but chose not to because they don't know how deep they are already.