Learning from those who have experience

[madnessteat]

That's the way to go around it, as long as you have money available, you will keep gambling if you are addicted to it, and if you see that you don't have any money for it, you will most probably stop doing it and eventually get rid of the addiction. However, there are some people who will get into bad things once they run out of money if their addiction has reached a different height. They will look for ways that they can use to get some money only to continue gambling.

Some people have an addiction to loans, or perhaps it is an addiction to spending money, they constantly need to buy something, it is clear that the money will quickly run out and they will be obliged to take out even more loans. If such a person becomes addicted to gambling, then it will definitely become a very big problem, he will not stop when he runs out of money.

I think that it is not addiction to credit or some psychological disease that forces a person to spend money all the time, rather it is a credit trap into which many people who do not have sufficient income and level of knowledge in the financial sphere fall. Credit addiction leads to the fact that at some point a person has to take out a new loan to pay off the old one. In my country there are organizations that give loans to the poor at 400% per annum. If the government of my country cared about its citizens, this would not be the case. The same illiterate people can easily afford to gamble with borrowed money.

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[Cryptmuster]

Yes, the point is that whatever the type of addiction is basically the average addiction always leads us to something worse or even very bad, those who live dependently by utilizing loans will not be able to get progress in their lives and especially for some of those who like to spend money it is very clear that when one day they experience something unexpected and urgent that really needs money then they can't do anything except borrow again. I think saving money is a better thing to minimize the unexpected in the future.

I believe that even the habit of spending everything you managed to earn is a bad habit and will not lead to anything good. Yes, sometimes this is a necessary measure, because the income is too small to be able to save something, perhaps many have gone through such periods in life, but if you develop, then your level of income will grow, and in this case you need to make sure that save part of your income.

If you believe that you can make money in gambling, then allocate some part of your money and try, but credit money in gambling should be taboo.

[lienfaye]

Yes, the point is that whatever the type of addiction is basically the average addiction always leads us to something worse or even very bad, those who live dependently by utilizing loans will not be able to get progress in their lives and especially for some of those who like to spend money it is very clear that when one day they experience something unexpected and urgent that really needs money then they can't do anything except borrow again. I think saving money is a better thing to minimize the unexpected in the future.

I believe that even the habit of spending everything you managed to earn is a bad habit and will not lead to anything good. Yes, sometimes this is a necessary measure, because the income is too small to be able to save something, perhaps many have gone through such periods in life, but if you develop, then your level of income will grow, and in this case you need to make sure that save part of your income.

If you believe that you can make money in gambling, then allocate some part of your money and try, but credit money in gambling should be taboo.

Sometimes it's inevitable to borrow money because the salary is not sufficient for overall needs. That's understandable however let's not be used to it. If your income is not enough then do something to increase it but not through gambling. Gambling is not even an answer to double your money, you can lose it all instead.

Thus gamble only the money that you can live without. If you don't have excess money for gambling then forget about it and focus on how to improve your financial status. This way, you don't have to borrow money just because you're in short of funds for essential things.

[maydna]

Sometimes it's inevitable to borrow money because the salary is not sufficient for overall needs. That's understandable however let's not be used to it. If your income is not enough then do something to increase it but not through gambling. Gambling is not even an answer to double your money, you can lose it all instead.

Thus gamble only the money that you can live without. If you don't have excess money for gambling then forget about it and focus on how to improve your financial status. This way, you don't have to borrow money just because you're in short of funds for essential things.

Borrowing money for things other than gambling is okay because our needs may increase, so we run out of money. But if we use the money for gambling, we shouldn't need to borrow because that could cause problems for us. After all, if we only use gambling as entertainment, we will not always gamble and only occasionally. And we won't budget our money too often for gambling, so it's better to use it to meet our living needs. And, indeed, we should only use the money we can afford to gamble so that we don't lose too much money and still have money for other things. Or it's better if we just save the money for emergency needs.

[nara1892]

Yes, the point is that whatever the type of addiction is basically the average addiction always leads us to something worse or even very bad, those who live dependently by utilizing loans will not be able to get progress in their lives and especially for some of those who like to spend money it is very clear that when one day they experience something unexpected and urgent that really needs money then they can't do anything except borrow again. I think saving money is a better thing to minimize the unexpected in the future.

I believe that even the habit of spending everything you managed to earn is a bad habit and will not lead to anything good. Yes, sometimes this is a necessary measure, because the income is too small to be able to save something, perhaps many have gone through such periods in life, but if you develop, then your level of income will grow, and in this case you need to make sure that save part of your income.

If you believe that you can make money in gambling, then allocate some part of your money and try, but credit money in gambling should be taboo.

Ya benar seperti yang saya katakan di atas itu akan selalu menjadi kebiasaan yang buruk yang berdampak buruk, dimanapun anda melakukan kebiasaan itu, apalagi dalam sebuah perjudian yang memiliki dampak yang sangat buruk. Dan ya saya setuju dengan anda perihal menabung, saya benar - benar paham bahwa anda mendapatkan uang itu dari hasil kerja keras dari keringat anda dan yang lebih tidak masuk akalnya jika anda merelakan uang itu untuk berjudi di bandingkan untuk di simpan sebagai tabungan masa depan, dan jelas keterpurukan akan segera menghampiri anda suatu saat. Tetapi yah saya juga paham jika memang mereka memiliki pekerjaan yang tidak bisa menopang semua beban hidup anda dan secara tidak langsung wajar saja jika mereka sulit untuk menyisihkan sedikit uangnya untuk menabung. Tetapi benar ini bukan pilihan terakhir kawan, roda terus berputar dan saya yakin jika anda terus berusaha dengan bekerja keras maka pasti hidup anda akan bisa berkembang, hanya satu yang akan sedikit saya sarankan jangan sampai anda mencoba untuk terjun dalam perjudian karena jelas walaupun ada peluang menang tetapi tetap sistem kasino di buat untuk menguntungkan kasino bukan untuk penjudi dan kekalahan jelas akan selalu mendominasi.

Honestly I never thought that there are some of them who can make a consistent income in gambling, for the winnings maybe you can but it's only once or twice and if calculated then obviously still more of your losses, this is not an option to improve your finances.

[Stedsm]

Well, let me speak about myself.
I was badly addicted in both gambling and trading (yeah I know this is gambling related thread so I'll only discuss my gambling journey).
I was a very consistent gambler with mixed results which actually never bothered me to quit gambling. I did great for around 2-3 years since 2013, but later on, I started losing a lot and even incurred a debt which later on, got bigger and bigger. However, I managed to repay it through gambling only but with some fixed amounts to gamble each week with, and a fixed % after which I used to withdraw immediately and repaid. This helped me gain my credibility back and I started meditating a lot, went out with friends and gave a lot of time to books so that I remain busy with something and don't feel like I should gamble. Later on, I've made myself stubborn enough to only gamble once a month and stopped doing it the way I used to do. I had goals and I can proudly say that I achieved them through decent gambling, not like an addicted one but as an average gambler.

[Oasisman]

Yes, the point is that whatever the type of addiction is basically the average addiction always leads us to something worse or even very bad, those who live dependently by utilizing loans will not be able to get progress in their lives and especially for some of those who like to spend money it is very clear that when one day they experience something unexpected and urgent that really needs money then they can't do anything except borrow again. I think saving money is a better thing to minimize the unexpected in the future.

If you believe that you can make money in gambling, then allocate some part of your money and try, but credit money in gambling should be taboo.

If someone believe they can make money in gambling then they should limit their expectations to never think that it would give them a progress in life because it would never give them that, regardless of how huge the winning amount is, when there is always an urge to go back to gambling, all these money you've won will drain down eventually.
I just realized that this is where some of the gambling addictions came from, as some gamblers think they could make a fortune one day when they hit their biggest jackpot. Well, it's sad to say gambling isn't designed to make someone reach other than the owner lol, gambling should always be treated as an entertainment.

[KTChampions]

I want to ask those of you who have a hard addiction experience in gambling and then you can treat it yourself, and today still playing gambling but with the principle of good management and financial management in gambling.
I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

"I want to find out because I think your experience in the case as I mentioned will be useful for readers, especially for me personally"

It seems to me that if a person has survived a severe gambling addiction but still plays with “good financial management,” then he is simply deceiving himself. Any financial management in gambling leads to loss, that is, financial losses still continue, plus there is always the possibility of a return to a severe form of addiction.
It seems to me that if a person realizes the harmfulness of what he is doing, then he should completely get rid of it.

[khiholangkang]

I want to ask those of you who have a hard addiction experience in gambling and then you can treat it yourself, and today still playing gambling but with the principle of good management and financial management in gambling.
I want to know how you break away from the addiction, you can mention the actions taken or what kind of steps? And how long do you need time to break away from the addiction that has been experienced?

"I want to find out because I think your experience in the case as I mentioned will be useful for readers, especially for me personally"

It seems to me that if a person has survived a severe gambling addiction but still plays with “good financial management,” then he is simply deceiving himself. Any financial management in gambling leads to loss, that is, financial losses still continue, plus there is always the possibility of a return to a severe form of addiction.
It seems to me that if a person realizes the harmfulness of what he is doing, then he should completely get rid of it.

Maybe from the various facts that people who have experienced serious addiction then recover and have good financial management afterwards, that is very rare, and as you say has great potential to return to gambling madness, that is also true.
But I don't think that's the case if his principles of managing money and gambling awareness are very strong after recovery, it will probably work out fine.
At least when ambition flares up in him due to annoyance, there are limits that he remembers beforehand that make him stop for a moment and let calm surround his thoughts, that can still be worked on, sir.

[Pamadar]

Sometimes it's inevitable to borrow money because the salary is not sufficient for overall needs. That's understandable however let's not be used to it. If your income is not enough then do something to increase it but not through gambling. Gambling is not even an answer to double your money, you can lose it all instead.

Thus gamble only the money that you can live without. If you don't have excess money for gambling then forget about it and focus on how to improve your financial status. This way, you don't have to borrow money just because you're in short of funds for essential things.

Borrowing money for things other than gambling is okay because our needs may increase, so we run out of money. But if we use the money for gambling, we shouldn't need to borrow because that could cause problems for us. After all, if we only use gambling as entertainment, we will not always gamble and only occasionally. And we won't budget our money too often for gambling, so it's better to use it to meet our living needs. And, indeed, we should only use the money we can afford to gamble so that we don't lose too much money and still have money for other things. Or it's better if we just save the money for emergency needs.

Use the money that you can afford to let go and not to exceed to the point that you will be needed to barrow just to please your gambling. If you practice, you are good at dealing with your gambling.

But if not, chances that you will overspend your money and the amount that you will barrow will be added
to your problem when you lose everything, it will be added to your obligation and will be deducted o supposedly
budget for you and for your family.

[Webetcoins]

I believe that even the habit of spending everything you managed to earn is a bad habit and will not lead to anything good. Yes, sometimes this is a necessary measure, because the income is too small to be able to save something, perhaps many have gone through such periods in life, but if you develop, then your level of income will grow, and in this case you need to make sure that save part of your income.

If you believe that you can make money in gambling, then allocate some part of your money and try, but credit money in gambling should be taboo.

It's logically and technically not possible for someone to keep earning an income from gambling and it has been proven millions of times throughout the history of gambling. One might get lucky and manage to get a big win someday, which might make them eligible to gamble for a lot of days without having to spend anything from their pocket, but eventually, it will run out, and then they will be back at spending their own money again for gambling.

When someone manages to win something significant, they need to save the most part and only use a small portion of it to try their luck again but if it doesn't work, they should just use the money that they've won on something more important in life that they needed or wanted to do but couldn't due to financial inabilities.

[maydna]

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Use the money that you can afford to let go and not to exceed to the point that you will be needed to barrow just to please your gambling. If you practice, you are good at dealing with your gambling.

But if not, chances that you will overspend your money and the amount that you will barrow will be added
to your problem when you lose everything, it will be added to your obligation and will be deducted o supposedly
budget for you and for your family.

Yes, that means we have to be responsible for the gambling we do so that we don't experience more serious problems. By making a budget for gambling, at least we can keep gambling within certain limits so that we won't gamble excessively. By staying within these limits we can gamble comfortably and calmly and don't need to worry about gambling addiction. But if we lose self-control and even exceed the limits in gambling, we will experience problem after problem which may get worse in the future. We will have difficulty solving the problem if we don't want to return to the limits we have created and that is what will make us addicted to gambling. So it's also a good idea for us to learn from those who are experienced so we can gain more knowledge that will be useful for us.

[blockman]

Thus gamble only the money that you can live without. If you don't have excess money for gambling then forget about it and focus on how to improve your financial status. This way, you don't have to borrow money just because you're in short of funds for essential things.

And that's where many gamblers find themselves at fault. They gamble with the money that they can't live without and also when they don't have money but want to gamble, they push themselves and find a lot of ways they can just gamble. It is a very wrong move when you do that as a gambler and you're just adding the flame to the people who think that all gamblers are irresponsible and don't have a future. That's why that thought for gamblers never changes because of the kind of irresponsible gambler that makes it look even worse in the eyes of those non-gamblers. And in every side of it upon looking at it, never borrow money or ask for a loan just for you to gamble.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

Well, let me speak about myself.
I was badly addicted in both gambling and trading (yeah I know this is gambling related thread so I'll only discuss my gambling journey).
I was a very consistent gambler with mixed results which actually never bothered me to quit gambling. I did great for around 2-3 years since 2013, but later on, I started losing a lot and even incurred a debt which later on, got bigger and bigger. However, I managed to repay it through gambling only but with some fixed amounts to gamble each week with, and a fixed % after which I used to withdraw immediately and repaid. This helped me gain my credibility back and I started meditating a lot, went out with friends and gave a lot of time to books so that I remain busy with something and don't feel like I should gamble. Later on, I've made myself stubborn enough to only gamble once a month and stopped doing it the way I used to do. I had goals and I can proudly say that I achieved them through decent gambling, not like an addicted one but as an average gambler.

        -  I was impressed by the experience, although it didn't lead to an addiction. Rarely have I seen a gambler overcome his addiction to the point where it nearly destroyed his own life and that of others. From what I saw based on your story, you really focused on trying to change your gambling addiction.

Usually, it is very difficult for addicted gamblers to overcome their addiction, but for you, because you are determined to change and eliminate the addiction that was formed by being a gambler, you were able to change it and eliminate it little by little, and it is amazing that you actually did. Because of that, I congratulate you for overcoming your addiction to gambling.

[Westinhome]

Borrowing money for things other than gambling is okay because our needs may increase, so we run out of money. But if we use the money for gambling, we shouldn't need to borrow because that could cause problems for us. After all, if we only use gambling as entertainment, we will not always gamble and only occasionally. And we won't budget our money too often for gambling, so it's better to use it to meet our living needs. And, indeed, we should only use the money we can afford to gamble so that we don't lose too much money and still have money for other things. Or it's better if we just save the money for emergency needs.

Some people start to borrow the funds and make this as the habit.Borrowing the funds is not the wrong thing,but making it as the habit was the wrong one.Because the money you are going to use for the gambling.So the returns from the gambling is not the confirm one,the profit based on the probability of steps followed by the gamblers.If the gamblers use the money on business,he can handle the money and return the money to the borrower.The gambling based on your luck,So no one knows the today luck.The borrowing in the gambling is not highly recommended one.

[maydna]

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Some people start to borrow the funds and make this as the habit.Borrowing the funds is not the wrong thing,but making it as the habit was the wrong one.Because the money you are going to use for the gambling.So the returns from the gambling is not the confirm one,the profit based on the probability of steps followed by the gamblers.If the gamblers use the money on business,he can handle the money and return the money to the borrower.The gambling based on your luck,So no one knows the today luck.The borrowing in the gambling is not highly recommended one.

You are right because borrowing funds to gamble will only put them in trouble, especially if they don't have the money to repay the borrowed money. Gambling with borrowed money will pose a greater risk than using your own money because we don't know when we will win, but we can lose all the money, so we can't pay the borrowed money. If we win, we can pay the loan, but this is gambling where the chances of us winning are not big. And if we lose in gambling where we bet all the money, we will be confused about how we can pay the loan. So it's better not to borrow money from anyone just to gamble. That is highly not recommended.

[KTChampions]

It seems to me that if a person has survived a severe gambling addiction but still plays with “good financial management,” then he is simply deceiving himself. Any financial management in gambling leads to loss, that is, financial losses still continue, plus there is always the possibility of a return to a severe form of addiction.
It seems to me that if a person realizes the harmfulness of what he is doing, then he should completely get rid of it.

Maybe from the various facts that people who have experienced serious addiction then recover and have good financial management afterwards, that is very rare, and as you say has great potential to return to gambling madness, that is also true.
But I don't think that's the case if his principles of managing money and gambling awareness are very strong after recovery, it will probably work out fine.
At least when ambition flares up in him due to annoyance, there are limits that he remembers beforehand that make him stop for a moment and let calm surround his thoughts, that can still be worked on, sir.

Let’s say a person has iron discipline, but still, why bother with the past? I don’t think that he will experience those old emotions (insane ones must be assumed if they harmed him). Why play for money at all if you don’t play “like before” and don’t experience those emotions? Then it would be right to install a casino emulator on your PC and play completely free of charge.

[reagansimms]

Initially it is quite difficult to change a serious addiction to gambling, someone can do it slowly by looking for other activities in their free time. Changing gambling habits can be done by making a list of monthly expenses for family needs. It is necessary to adjust income to expenses to change habits that absorb greater expenses. Financial management can change a person's habits that are considered addictive. A positive mindset by reducing desires in favor of prioritizing obligations will change a person's habits slowly.

[2double0]

I was not addicted to gambling but kept losing whenever I gambled. My family always urged me to stop gambling, and according to my thoughts, if you want to leave an addiction, you need to start another one as iron cuts iron. So I started drinking, and drinking a lot of alcohol stopped me from being a gambling addict as I had no senses left ever so I didn't gamble and lost my money in buying expensive whiskey bottles. Now, I'm not doing either of them as I stopped both these things.

[Mst.Wangdan$]

When a person is addicted to gambling he falls under family stress and stress that's why I want to say gambling is not good for anyone that's why we all stay away from tide slowly we go far away then our future will be very good I have seen people who gamble  lost all his possessions after gambling and then he wants to commit suicide and he dies by suicide I am proof my elder brother dies by suicide that's why I want to say to all of you don't gamble it's a big risky game for your life  You stay away from this tide, your family will be happy, you will be happy, your future will be bright.