What do we benefit in lies in forum

[GiftedMAN]

The only reason I can possibly think of right now is “merit fishing”.

If you check those threads that the stories were obviously made up, you’ll notice that the first set of people that made threads like that were actually awarded with merits because forum members thought they were being sincere but after discovering that they were all spitting out bullshits none of the recent ones got merit.

Apart from merit fishing I think some of them fabricate the  stories to attract the attention of readers to commend and congratulate them for a job well done since the stories are in connection with the importance and usefulness of bitcoin and it's promotion.

Most of the threads no longer  get merits  because most forum most members has discovered their new tricks of getting attention so they will rather advice them to stop spreading fake stores.

[Blitzboy]

Your point is valid! Why tell tales when there are so many Bitcoin adventures? Some may use the forum as their stage, telling stories taller than Bitcoin price increases. Is it the digital age's allure? Stories are fluid like digital currencies today. Anonymity makes it simple to become lost in the story. Please lead this ship back to authenticity. How about a "Fact-check" badge or "Community Verified" stamp? It will highlight real sharers and help beginners traverse crypto's perilous waters.

[Nwada001]

The question to be asked are as followed;

Without even fabricating your own story, without even giving some threads a second reading, and without even digging deep into some threads, you can tell that the whole story is fiction from the beginning. I also view things from the OP's point of view.
 
I have read so many posts like that in the forum that most times I don't even have to comment on them; I just have to look at them and pass them by. That is why most times I tell the OP's face that they are all fabricated stories.
 
One thing that baffles me most times is what they think of the reader sometimes. Is it that they think people in this forum have a little level of reasoning that we can just swallow whatever anyone comes up with without any single doubt? Because some of the stories I read around here, the OPs don't even give it any effort to make it appear real. At least if the story is not real, we can applaud the OP for a nice storyline.
 
Most times, I don't really think the stories formulated by the OP are only for merit fishing alone, like others might have pointed out. Sometimes they use their stories to indirectly promote their beliefs, promote other projects, or advertise their side business, whatever gives them enough reason to come up with any kind of story.

[Faisal2202]

I'm not creating this thread to wrong or offend anyone, because i have read so many post that is like fiction, even though cooperate with system, so many thread in Bitcoin discussion mostly newbies like me do frame a story that is not real in Bitcoin and also said a story of what they achieve in Bitcoin that is not real and present to the public to read and take as real story whereas it's a fiction, I want the reason behind someone given a fiction story to the forum. I want ask a question as an old forum user, is it not prohibited when someone discussed something that is not contrary to bitcoin education in this board.

You have made a good topic here, as many members are telling lies and creating fictional stories just to get some attention and, of course, merit. That's why we only see such posts or topics coming from newbies. Why legendary members do not create such fictional stories? In my time here, I also read some, and one of the most strange stories was the following:

I was not able to find the link, but the context was that OP's neighbor's daughter was kidnapped, and the kidnappers asked for payment in BTC, and OP was asking whether his neighbor should sell his BTC or not. I mean, what! Many people at that time indicated that it was a fictional story, but such stories are sometimes hard to forget and leave some sad impact too. I mean, what if the OP is telling the truth, but still, I and many others think that's also a fictional story?

We all should really avoid it. If we really want to gain some trust, we cannot get it from anyone, either in BTT or in real life. We cannot earn trust by telling lies. That truth will be temporary, so please, all newbies should avoid it.

[Accardo]

I'm not creating this thread to wrong or offend anyone, because i have read so many post that is like fiction, even though cooperate with system, so many thread in Bitcoin discussion mostly newbies like me do frame a story that is not real in Bitcoin and also said a story of what they achieve in Bitcoin that is not real and present to the public to read and take as real story whereas it's a fiction, I want the reason behind someone given a fiction story to the forum. I want ask a question as an old forum user, is it not prohibited when someone discussed something that is not contrary to bitcoin education in this board.

You have made a good topic here, as many members are telling lies and creating fictional stories just to get some attention and, of course, merit. That's why we only see such posts or topics coming from newbies. Why legendary members do not create such fictional stories? In my time here, I also read some, and one of the most strange stories was the following:

I was not able to find the link, but the context was that OP's neighbor's daughter was kidnapped, and the kidnappers asked for payment in BTC, and OP was asking whether his neighbor should sell his BTC or not. I mean, what! Many people at that time indicated that it was a fictional story, but such stories are sometimes hard to forget and leave some sad impact too. I mean, what if the OP is telling the truth, but still, I and many others think that's also a fictional story?

We all should really avoid it. If we really want to gain some trust, we cannot get it from anyone, either in BTT or in real life. We cannot earn trust by telling lies. That truth will be temporary, so please, all newbies should avoid it.

It's easier to lie online and get away with it. Any thread that centers on things regarding money, bragging or show off most a times tends to be lies. But how can we verify this? That's the problem. The only way out is to avoid such threads and move ahead to read relevant discussion that'll worth your time. The story you reffered to above might be complicated, in either to believe it or not. Yet its attributed to lack of contents to share in the forum. Because such serious problems shouldn't require an uncalculated question; if the Op's friend should sell their bitcoin. That's not pure, since nobody will joke with the lives of their loved ones because of bitcoin. So, if a reader is in doubt of a thread, they can try to verify or ignore it.

[Adbitco]

The question to be asked are as followed;

Without even fabricating your own story, without even giving some threads a second reading, and without even digging deep into some threads, you can tell that the whole story is fiction from the beginning. I also view things from the OP's point of view.
 
I have read so many posts like that in the forum that most times I don't even have to comment on them; I just have to look at them and pass them by. That is why most times I tell the OP's face that they are all fabricated stories.
 
One thing that baffles me most times is what they think of the reader sometimes. Is it that they think people in this forum have a little level of reasoning that we can just swallow whatever anyone comes up with without any single doubt? Because some of the stories I read around here, the OPs don't even give it any effort to make it appear real. At least if the story is not real, we can applaud the OP for a nice storyline.
 
Most times, I don't really think the stories formulated by the OP are only for merit fishing alone, like others might have pointed out. Sometimes they use their stories to indirectly promote their beliefs, promote other projects, or advertise their side business, whatever gives them enough reason to come up with any kind of story.

I don't even give credits to such low effort post and topics as merely looking at them you could connotes the simple action towards the composition of those topics which I say no to types of topic, but whenever the open seems to be real or trying to use their selves as a case study then we can it's a personal experience gained from whatever lesson they might have learnt subsequently.

I can easily gets those real posters and fake people trying to impressed the people around here while they are going worst in their own way of creating superstitious stories.

[qwertyup23]

Instead of formulating what is not real to write, it's better to make research of bitcoin and educate others through your research, some people make some posts without making it to be informative, some gives testimonies of their achievement with bitcoin without proven the evidence. I think we are to exchange of bitcoin knowledge and share experience's of bitcoins to each other not to give a fake information of what Bitcoin has done to you without evidence.

Well, this forum is considered as a haven for everyone who seeks to learn about all the information regarding cryptocurrencies. Unfortunately, some abuse this freedom by providing fake stories/information who ultimately deceives everyone. From this point, it is now the responsibility of the person to at least understand and depict which stories to believe or not.

Personally, lots of users have been faking their claims in order to fish for "merit" for them to rank-up. I just hope that every person should be held accountable for all of their statements in order to prevent any form of abuse and deception as it goes contrary on why the forum was created in the first place.

[Russlenat]

The forum allows you the freedom to share your ideas as long as you respect others and do not conflict with bitcointalk rules. So unless the story is completely fictional, you are allowed to share it.
The problem lies in lying and trying to fabricate stories to attract, arouse sympathy, or obtain donations or merits, and sometimes this may be to complete paid posts.
I understand that such posts are not good, but trying to ban them will require us to fully verify them, and sometimes that is difficult, such as the stories that I built my house with Bitcoin or bought my first phone or computer with my posts in this forum.

Just click on ignore and people will stop when no one intract with them

We cannot actually deny some fictional stories in the forum as the forum itself is widely open to all its members to share stories based from their own experience, or even to those who are fake ones. However, the old members in the forum know it already probably for merit purposes, but my suggestion is just let them be. After all they won’t be making merits for that until they get tired of making such stories and leave the forum. As long as they received no appreciation post from other members, perhaps they will not be encouraged to do it again.

[nakamura12]

It's either they are planning to earn merit or merit fishing as what Cantsay said or they are just doing it to meet the required posts needed to get stakes if they are joining a bounty campaign. This forum may be a haven for those who are looking to learn or increase their knowledge about cryptocurrency but also be able to earn money that's why they are sharing stories that didn't even happen at all.

[Agbe]

Exactly there is nothing else buy for merit if not those fabricated stories wouldn't be created, those newbies are looking for all ways to grow their accounts so they came up with accepting bitcoin in their shops while in real life they don't even have a table shop. Well these days it is not hard to detect those threads again even with evidences. Op as you said, it is better to make extra research and share the knowledge gotten from there than making false stories because of Merit. If they share the real story with evidences they will have more merits on it than the frame up stories.

[BIT-BENDER]

Well I would say I understand where you coming from and yes I have seen some post like that, some newbies feel that they can touch other users on their soft spot so as to probably get recognition and even merit from such post and it's really sad to see that some newbies don't want to go through the right road to achieve their goal

But regardless I still see this your post in the same light, if you see a post that is not Bitcoin concerned there is no need to start your own thread I believe that why you can use the REPORT TO MODERATOR option.

[Smartvirus]

The forum allows you the freedom to share your ideas as long as you respect others and do not conflict with bitcointalk rules. So unless the story is completely fictional, you are allowed to share it.
The problem lies in lying and trying to fabricate stories to attract, arouse sympathy, or obtain donations or merits, and sometimes this may be to complete paid posts.

What makes the forum rich is the uniqueness of every individual, shown in their contributions. To that extent, one is expected and has the free will to write what would be as well educative and can result in some good learning.
Unfortunately, it becomes a lot challenging for some that leads to fabrications of what could be untrue and deceiving at the same time, aimed at certain purposes.
This is out rightly bad as, you pose a completely fictional situation to be true with the aim of archiving a goal. Some even do it for the fact that, they haven’t created a thread in a long time. How do you tell, you really can’t other than have the hunch and inferences from what you’ve seen over the years.
The bad news is, most still get caught free and it’s still happening till today but with no means to prove a story, you just have to go with it, criticize what you can and don’t let there deals play on you.

[cabron]

You will find proof after the BTC halving. Its the only season where they can show how much money they've made since they were hodlers. They definitely have reasons to hold because of the benefits.

Proof you might be interested are those futures traders who made money whichever the market goes. No lies about that but then they may not post proof because sometimes, if you do you get more PMs from scammers luring you to their den.

[ZAINmalik75]

The question to be asked are as followed;
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I think this completely gives the best answers to op's post..
The time spent in phising out fake post why not use those time to share his or her own stories instead of busy looking for fake stories.

You are right; we should definitely avoid spending our time and energy on negative people and negative vibes. But the treatment of such a fictional writer must be done. (hehe). I mean, they are wasting their energy on the wrong forum; they should write fictional stories for drama or movie makers. Why they are spending their time and energy here?

Finding answers to your query is so difficult, and yeah, we cannot really blame or tag someone's story as fake without getting into the answers to the questions you mention. But most of the time, some stories are so bold and fake that they tell us by themselves that I am fake.  

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

so many thread in Bitcoin discussion mostly newbies like me do frame a story that is not real in Bitcoin and also said a story of what they achieve in Bitcoin that is not real and present to the public to read and take as real story whereas it's a fiction, I want the reason behind someone given a fiction story to the forum. I want ask a question as an old forum user, is it not prohibited when someone discussed something that is not contrary to bitcoin education in this board.

It's true this is a bitcoin discussion forum, but that doesn't mean ones achievement with Bitcoin can't be shared here, as such is meant to encourage othets/newbies not to give up in their journey about Bitcoin. But if I may ask, what proof have you to tell that a story is true or not true on this forum? Because in as much as the authenticity of a story remains unprovable otherwise, such story remains valid til further notice.

However, there are 2 main reasons why people fake stories up, that is;

1. To get merit: As this has to do with someone writing a sweet fake story so as to please people to gain merit for ranking up.

2. To complete weekly post count: As this has to do with someone writing a fake story so as to meet up with his/her weekly post count to get paid on a signature campaign.

[Adbitco]

The question to be asked are as followed;
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I think this completely gives the best answers to op's post..
The time spent in phising out fake post why not use those time to share his or her own stories instead of busy looking for fake stories.

You are right; we should definitely avoid spending our time and energy on negative people and negative vibes. But the treatment of such a fictional writer must be done. (hehe). I mean, they are wasting their energy on the wrong forum; they should write fictional stories for drama or movie makers. Why they are spending their time and energy here?

Finding answers to your query is so difficult, and yeah, we cannot really blame or tag someone's story as fake without getting into the answers to the questions you mention. But most of the time, some stories are so bold and fake that they tell us by themselves that I am fake.  

I can't even imagine myself looking into someone's post or content to see how legit those information are but at some point without you digging into detail you could know they are just cooked up stories which I don't give credits to it (I look at the value it carries). Despite we can't get into detail with it shows we shouldn't call some post fake. Yes we know they are posting for something which we all know but if those aren't provable to him doesn't show they are fake, the best option are to skip it or ignore them and go to the area s/he knows are legit..

...maybe the technical support section are filled with real fact he can decide to post that area to tackle some problems. All I can say is that the general board can be cooked up and you can't stop them flooding since they all want to prove to everyone that can make quality post.

[rachael9385]

This is another method of merit fishing by fabricating stories and present it to the forum as if it was real. This is the reason why pictures are needed to back up your claims. They don't know that those stories wouldn't give them merits but instead it will make forum members to see them as dishonest people and might even lead to putting them on ignore. It is better in improve yourself my learning and your own research so to grow in the forum rather cooking up lies because for how long will you cook up lies that will make you grow in the forum and improve yourself.

Yes, like you said that it is another way of merit fishing, yes it is, but do you know that some of those stories were not fabricated? Yes, some of them are not because if you see a fabricated story you will know and if you sell a true story you will also know. Yes, it is good to put a clear picture of your claims so that people will know that you are saying the truth and not lies. Some forum members have been red taged because of their lies and their false stories. Members who are doing merit fishing are the ones who are so desperate to grow and some of them are not on bitcointalk.org to learn but here to fetch merits and do the otherwise.
It is an easy task to grow on bitcointalk.org. It is just for members to make their quality post. That's all. The funny part is that some members don't know that every post can not get a merit, but every merit must be given to a post, either a thread or a comment.

[Silberman]

I'm not creating this thread to wrong or offend anyone, because i have read so many post that is like fiction, even though cooperate with system, so many thread in Bitcoin discussion mostly newbies like me do frame a story that is not real in Bitcoin and also said a story of what they achieve in Bitcoin that is not real and present to the public to read and take as real story whereas it's a fiction, I want the reason behind someone given a fiction story to the forum. I want ask a question as an old forum user, is it not prohibited when someone discussed something that is not contrary to bitcoin education in this board.

Instead of formulating what is not real to write, it's better to make research of bitcoin and educate others through your research, some people make some posts without making it to be informative, some gives testimonies of their achievement with bitcoin without proven the evidence. I think we are to exchange of bitcoin knowledge and share experience's of bitcoins to each other not to give a fake information of what Bitcoin has done to you without evidence.

People lie about their bitcoin success for the very same reasons they lie about everything else, to obtain a gain, to prevent a loss, or they lie simply because they like lying, now this can be a difficult problem to tackle because we cannot really ask for proof of their claims and this is because many users here appreciate their own privacy and they will not ask others to give up theirs, especially when we are talking about money matters which could later be exploited by scammers.

[Issa56]

I'm not creating this thread to wrong or offend anyone, because i have read so many post that is like fiction, even though cooperate with system, so many thread in Bitcoin discussion mostly newbies like me do frame a story that is not real in Bitcoin and also said a story of what they achieve in Bitcoin that is not real and present to the public to read and take as real story whereas it's a fiction, I want the reason behind someone given a fiction story to the forum. I want ask a question as an old forum user, is it not prohibited when someone discussed something that is not contrary to bitcoin education in this board.

Why will you frame a story for no reason? Definitely,  they have what they are looking for, which we all know is merit. They are looking for an easy way to get merit, and they believe if they can frame up a story, that’s the only time they can get enough merit. There are some posts where, from the way the poster is going to compose it, you will know the story is not real, but I notice posts like that are not really getting merits again, so members have reduced the way they frame story’s.

Instead of formulating what is not real to write, it's better to make research of bitcoin and educate others through your research, some people make some posts without making it to be informative,

Most newbies are not here to learn, they are here to earn, so they are always looking for easy ways to get merit so that they will be able to rank up and join the signature campaign. Only a few newbies are here because they want to learn and impact other forum members, and those are the ones that will grow on the forum here. If you are here primarily because of what you will earn, I don’t think you will be able to build your account because in the process of building your account, you might end up going against the forum rules.

some gives testimonies of their achievement with bitcoin without proven the evidence. I think we are to exchange of bitcoin knowledge and share experience's of bitcoins to each other not to give a fake information of what Bitcoin has done to you without evidence.

I hardly believe the achievements and testimonies people post here without evidence, but I know that most of them do create posts like that because they want to get people’s attention, and maybe the post will be merited.

[GeorgeJohn]

In any comment their is fact that is cogent, we can't judge a book by the cover because their is every tendency that the stories or comments we see as a fabricated stories are real, hugeblack has said it all, if you don't like such stories by any user you can ignore the user,because their no story that is baseless, they most be atoms of truth in that story, so therefore I will like us to not depend on the theory of op, because we have no apparatus or experimental tools to figure out is a comment made here is a fabricated one, some people use what they see or noticed around their vicinity to make a thread or their challenges to compose writing, its necessary and understanding from my view evereveryone to air out his or her views.