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September 10, 2023, 08:16:58 PM
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People do good things for bad reasons while they also do bad things for good reasons and this is always the main reason behind what makes people tell lies on the forum. However, this is one of the major drawbacks of a decentralized platform, and since they don't go against the forum rules or do something to someone else it is all good.


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September 10, 2023, 08:19:16 PM
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I'm not creating this thread to wrong or offend anyone, because i have read so many post that is like fiction, even though cooperate with system, so many thread in Bitcoin discussion mostly newbies like me do frame a story that is not real in Bitcoin and also said a story of what they achieve in Bitcoin that is not real and present to the public to read and take as real story whereas it's a fiction, I want the reason behind someone given a fiction story to the forum. I want ask a question as an old forum user, is it not prohibited when someone discussed something that is not contrary to bitcoin education in this board.

Instead of formulating what is not real to write, it's better to make research of bitcoin and educate others through your research, some people make some posts without making it to be informative, some gives testimonies of their achievement with bitcoin without proven the evidence. I think we are to exchange of bitcoin knowledge and share experience's of bitcoins to each other not to give a fake information of what Bitcoin has done to you without evidence.
It is evidently so, but what an individual Bitcoin forum member can do from their own end is to be genuine and remember that there are eyes and bots here that know when one is spamming or using A.I generated text. I don't need to stress on the repercussion of such act, but anyone who does so has no interest of learning about BTC in the slightest bit, mostly when the lies told here is not on point or related to what is discussed or related to what the idea of this forum stand to promote.

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September 10, 2023, 09:11:06 PM
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The reason why people fabricate tall tales is best known to them, it could be for merit, reputation, monetary gains or just trolling. There are less of “bitcoin sucess stories” threads in bitcoin discussion than last year, it wasn’t a newbie thing. Many of the OPs were full member rank and above, I think at the time those threads gave them a opportunity to share a part of their personal life with the forum. Ofcourse there are stories that are not genuine and seem like they were pinched from the stories of others, the fakes are easy to tell. If we can spot a scam crypto project, we can for sure spot a made up story when we see one.

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September 10, 2023, 09:20:03 PM
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Nothing, even merits are never earned if these members will keep on making fabricated post and lies. There's always a difference if the members will provide real and based on experience stories because other members will eventually feel empathy and appreciate those post through giving merits. Lies are prohibited actually, but sometimes it's hard to control in a forum where everyone is free to share and post.

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September 10, 2023, 09:36:55 PM
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Some people may have managed to deceive themselves by saying they have invested in bitcoin, but in fact they are only holding altcoins. I'm not sure what the benefits are, but one of the most dominant things in mind is that attracting the sympathy of others who support bitcoin gives them merit. I don't think that's a good thing to imitate considering that merit won't be that hard to get, I mean only if they have quality posts.

Rather than deceiving themselves, then I think it would be good for them to speak frankly and share healthy arguments about what they are interested in. Just because of the rise of signature campaigns that pay for bitcoin, you don't have to lie that you only support bitcoin while all altcoins are shitcoins.

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September 10, 2023, 09:39:55 PM
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People do good things for bad reasons while they also do bad things for good reasons and this is always the main reason behind what makes people tell lies on the forum. However, this is one of the major drawbacks of a decentralized platform, and since they don't go against the forum rules or do something to someone else it is all good.
I concur with you on this point because the forum specifically prohibited lying, and your information must be supported by facts if it is to be helpful to the public. If a liar nevertheless helps others by his lies, it can be educational. If the lies did not violate the rules and guidelines of the forum, it is also acceptable. For example, someone might write in a forum that they introduced their family and friends to bitcoin for the sole purpose of earning points, yet other people might still be inclined to follow their example. Someone has benefited from his efforts with this.

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September 10, 2023, 09:57:10 PM
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Merit fishing primarily. These people spin "vaguely-relatable" stories and narratives that they make out to be either an experience of theirs or an experience of someone in their circle. While it's not inherently bad since after all, they impart really nice stories for one and at the same time they're not really spreading "misinformation" since most of the stories they spin are either cautionary tales or informative and descriptive, it's still lies being said and I get why you'd be upset about it. Anywho, let's just wing it for now, no one's meriting these people anyway lol, and the mods are great at cracking down posts that are not that contributive to the whole narrative of the forum. So let them have it for now, the forum needs a couple court jesters anyway lol (no offense to these people)

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September 10, 2023, 10:21:12 PM
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The only reason I can possibly think of right now is “merit fishing”.

If you check those threads that the stories were obviously made up, you’ll notice that the first set of people that made threads like that were actually awarded with merits because forum members thought they were being sincere but after discovering that they were all spitting out bullshits none of the recent ones got merit.
And most importantly you forget to mentio ed that the consequence for sharing such fake story and making it look real is that when the higher rank member discoverd that you lied just to get some form of compensation from them it could result into them placing the under under ignore and never read anything writen by such member again.


So aside from the fact that those newbies looking for ways to deceive older members with lies must have a rethink, and lately such activities have reduced any ways and that may be because a lot of them are not getting the results they're expected from creating and putting up with those lies.

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September 10, 2023, 10:32:51 PM
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Asking about making fake stories in forums, of course, there will be no benefits.
I often comment on several threads that only contain fictional stories about adopting Bitcoin in the community, creating a business with Bitcoin payments, and various other fictional stories.

Usually, they only make long text stories without any evidence of transactions or photos showing the events they are telling.
They want to be praised and appreciated for being involved with Bitcoin directly, but in reality, they are just making up the story.

It's easy to spot those who are lying.
Besides, they won't grow with the fake stories that are always posted.

Instead of just making up imaginary stories, it's better to share the latest news, concerns about being in the crypto space, or events that have actually been experienced in real life.
This forum is created to share genuine experiences, not share fake stories.
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September 11, 2023, 01:34:30 AM
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The only reason I can possibly think of right now is “merit fishing”.

If you check those threads that the stories were obviously made up, you’ll notice that the first set of people that made threads like that were actually awarded with merits because forum members thought they were being sincere but after discovering that they were all spitting out bullshits none of the recent ones got merit.

That's what I was thinking as well.
People get creative just to receive those merit, move up the latter and get into campaigns to earn those delicious btc.

As long as people treat this forum as their job this will always be a problem.

On the other hand, there are also always people that are just looking for attention and recognition. And to achieve they that they are going through great lengths for whatever reason.

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September 11, 2023, 02:10:17 AM
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Instead of formulating what is not real to write, it's better to make research of bitcoin and educate others through your research, some people make some posts without making it to be informative, some gives testimonies of their achievement with bitcoin without proven the evidence. I think we are to exchange of bitcoin knowledge and share experience's of bitcoins to each other not to give a fake information of what Bitcoin has done to you without evidence.
Even though there are many posts that are made fictionally or slightly exaggerated, what we need to know is that many of the posts made on this forum are very useful for everyone. Post-based forums that will be discussed by every visitor like us and it is impossible for all of them to be able to verify the level of truth and if you think a post is a public lie or can actually mislead people. Then all you need to do is hit the report to moderator button and let them do the rest, either the post is deleted or moved to a more relevant subboard.

The most important thing is that if you intend to provide good education to everyone, don't use the methods of people like the ones you mentioned. This forum also provides freedom for anyone to speak as long as you do not violate the forum and another thing we can do is ignore posts that you think are not useful, so that there will be no cynical responses between each other.

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 #52

There may be some members of this forum who lie, such as creating topics and so on, and indeed if create information it would be better if our spoke honestly and according to reality, but of course it would be better if our were anonymous in certain. such as identity, wallet and so on.

Yes, in my opinion should have good discussions and produce good benefits.
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September 11, 2023, 02:35:23 AM
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Yes, there are many of these stories on the forum that seem unrealistic or false, but no one has proof that they are false stories. Investigating such stories would be a waste of time because it is very difficult to prove whether they are true or not.

The main reason behind such stories is either to attract attention or gain merit, but as long as they do not violate the rules of the forum and do not offend anyone, nothing can be done.

Also, some of these stories are true even though they do not seem so, so it would be unfair to accuse everyone of their stories being fictional or false.

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Just like real life, there are millions of liars living among us but we have no way to stop those liars.  they have the right to say whatever they want and we have the right to ignore them if we suspect they are lying.  for me, if there is a topic that I feel is not suitable for me or suspect that the topic is somewhat fictional, I will choose to ignore it and move on to a topic that is more suitable for me.  you don't need to worry too much about what you don't like, focus on the things you like and you will feel the beauty of the forum or even in life.

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We all know that they fabricate the story, but yet more people will continue to do same, but at least if they can provide evidence to all those stories it would have be better than making a generic stories.

You write with confidence and concluded they fabricate the story as if you have the evidence against them. Quiet alright, there a lot of fabricated stories in the forum just to get some merits and it work for them before but not any longer. On the other hand, it's unfair to conclude that all the stories are fabrication. Of course, there are genuine stories with or without evidence and it's left for you to believe the story or ignore. Just like someone suggested in the first page, it's not a big deal when you come across such posts. Kindly scroll past or ignore such user but I will advice you do the former because if you go with the latter, there's probability they might change in the future and share important information.

Funny enough, either fictional or real, there might be lesson to pick from the story and apply it to our real life. Fictions are someone's idea and imagination. We already know that anything that can be imagined is capable of happening. So sharing fictional stories is not entirely bad as people will learn something out of it but making the stories too real is actually bad. I will suggest such stories should be identify as "fiction" in the heading by the writer so we can distinguish between a fictional story and real life story.

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September 11, 2023, 06:55:39 AM
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It is evidently so, but what an individual Bitcoin forum member can do from their own end is to be genuine and remember that there are eyes and bots here that know when one is spamming or using A.I generated text. I don't need to stress on the repercussion of such act, but anyone who does so has no interest of learning about BTC in the slightest bit, mostly when the lies told here is not on point or related to what is discussed or related to what the idea of this forum stand to promote.
I find it incredibly annoying that people use artificial intelligence to generate text. Well, sooner or later, this fact will become known. Don't they understand this? What type of head do you need to be in order to use it here?
I have already written more than once that this will lead to a similar situation. There are benefits from AI somewhere, but certainly not in our case. This requires live communication, not machine communication.

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Just like real life, there are millions of liars living among us but we have no way to stop those liars.  they have the right to say whatever they want and we have the right to ignore them if we suspect they are lying.  for me, if there is a topic that I feel is not suitable for me or suspect that the topic is somewhat fictional, I will choose to ignore it and move on to a topic that is more suitable for me.  you don't need to worry too much about what you don't like, focus on the things you like and you will feel the beauty of the forum or even in life.
However, we have to understand, so we can analyze the liars who want to take what is ours. Many are tempted by his words, so they get prey, but we have to understand that this is a trick they use and we have to be able to ignore it so as not to fall into their trap. do something positive for us to produce maximum results, remembering that if negative energy is maintained it will actually make us lose money.

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Instead of formulating what is not real to write, it's better to make research of bitcoin and educate others through your research...
How do you think Satoshi Nakamoto arrived at creating Bitcoin if not that he allowed his imagination got a better of him, and then followed it up with research? I don't think there's any issue with allowing one's mind run wild or amok with imagination. After all, there's a part of writing that's called fiction. We read books, and most of them in prose are fiction. Meaning that the stories in those fictious books never happened to the authors at the time the books were set. The only issue I see when users put up stories here that aren't real will be if the intent of those putting them up is to deceive. To that I condemn. Otherwise, let the entertainment begin. Behind every story there's a lesson to be learnt.

How about a "Fact-check" badge or "Community Verified" stamp? It will highlight real sharers and help beginners traverse crypto's perilous waters.
Doing that would be tantamount to bridling free speech (in this case, free post). I know how that feature will be misused if it's allowed here.

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Not every poster is serious about what they are doing; some just post to meet the requirements of a certain campaign. If you are a reader, you can always choose information that you would like to absorb, something that could help you grow as an investor. For me, the most valuable posts that help me are the opinions of the users in the forum. I know some forum users who provide valuable comments; let's say they are experts in a certain topic, so I benefit from their insights.

Mate, this is a big forum, just like a community; not everyone is helpful, so choose what you think is helpful for you. And since it's a forum, we can get honest opinions here from different users, unlike in a certain channel or a well-written article that provides information and opinions solely based on the writer's mind.

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Instead of formulating what is not real to write, it's better to make research of bitcoin and educate others through your research, some people make some posts without making it to be informative,
You do your research or not, nothing will change if those stories were just made. No offense to the ones that can be said guilty of what they say and didn't happened in real life but research is part of everyone's duty and responsibility about their own investments such as Bitcoin.

some gives testimonies of their achievement with bitcoin without proven the evidence.
Yes, that's it. Everyone can say a testimony on how bitcoin did things change and how it had made their lives better. We're in a forum and this is an open place of discussion, if someone asks you a proof that it did happened, it's up to you whether to oblige and comply or not.

I think we are to exchange of bitcoin knowledge and share experience's of bitcoins to each other not to give a fake information of what Bitcoin has done to you without evidence.
That's it, you'll also notice stories were just there and fabricated for the sake of discussion or truly happened indeed.

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