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September 10, 2023, 11:20:33 AM
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So I happened to find a seed phrase for an old wallet used to receive the five free coins from the faucet in 2010. Unfortunately I have no clue about which wallet it is.

The seed phrase is only 8 words of 7 characters, and is not BIP39.

After whole lot of googling I encountered this wordlist, and all the words appear there http://rabbit.eng.miami.edu/dics/amerlen/length07.txt Several of the words are not even proper english words, but do appear on that list and nowhere else relevant. The wordlist has 108824 words, and the words in phrase seem to be spread over the whole range.

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September 10, 2023, 11:22:24 AM
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2010? I'm afraid that whenever wallet you were using at the time, has already shutdown.

Blockchain.info did have their own seed phrase I believe, but wasn't that short and it was not even available back then.

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September 11, 2023, 03:06:14 PM
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The seed phrase is only 8 words of 7 characters, and is not BIP39.
I don't think it is a deterministic wallet aka starting from a seed. the best guess is that it is password recovery (mnemonic words). Use the search feature here https://github.com/blockchain/unused-My-Wallet/blob/master/mnemonic_words_v3.html to see if those words belong to it.

In addition, you will need the wallet UID, which you will find in the email you used to create your account at Blockchain.info/com.

If it is not Blockchain.info, use the image search feature with the names of old wallets and you may remember whether it is a wallet or a faucet.

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September 11, 2023, 06:06:48 PM
Last edit: September 13, 2023, 10:11:59 PM by Saint-loup
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So I happened to find a seed phrase for an old wallet used to receive the five free coins from the faucet in 2010. Unfortunately I have no clue about which wallet it is.

The seed phrase is only 8 words of 7 characters, and is not BIP39.

After whole lot of googling I encountered this wordlist, and all the words appear there http://rabbit.eng.miami.edu/dics/amerlen/length07.txt Several of the words are not even proper english words, but do appear on that list and nowhere else relevant. The wordlist has 108824 words, and the words in phrase seem to be spread over the whole range.

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1088248 is a huge number dude, it's around the same as 204812.17. Nowadays most seeds are still 12words length drawn among a word list of 2048 items. So even if we don't take into account the checksum bits, the entropy of your seed is higher than a current common seed (with the checksum there are 128(11x11+7) real bits of entropy instead of 132(12x11) which is equivalent to 204811.64 combinations)
So if you don't know which software has generated it, you won't be able to break it until several computer generations. Because currently the only way to break that is to know the potential shortcomings of the software that created it

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September 11, 2023, 06:20:31 PM
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So I happened to find a seed phrase for an old wallet used to receive the five free coins from the faucet in 2010. Unfortunately I have no clue about which wallet it is.

The seed phrase is only 8 words of 7 characters, and is not BIP39.

After whole lot of googling I encountered this wordlist, and all the words appear there http://rabbit.eng.miami.edu/dics/amerlen/length07.txt Several of the words are not even proper english words, but do appear on that list and nowhere else relevant. The wordlist has 108824 words, and the words in phrase seem to be spread over the whole range.

Will pay 10% for tip leading to access.


2010? I'm afraid that whenever wallet you were using at the time, has already shutdown.


Something is wrong here. There were no deterministic wallets in 2010.
as far as i know, you only had a bunch of private keys back in 2010. There wasn`t even electrum yet.

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September 11, 2023, 06:36:57 PM
Merited by vapourminer (1), nc50lc (1)
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Maybe it's a brain wallet instead of a seed phrase. Get a Linux live DVD, boot offline without internet, download bitaddress.org on a USB stick, copy it to the offline system, and enter your 8 words as brain wallet. See if it produces the same address that holds your 5 Bitcoin.

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September 13, 2023, 01:10:21 PM
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After whole lot of googling I encountered this wordlist, and all the words appear there http://rabbit.eng.miami.edu/dics/amerlen/length07.txt Several of the words are not even proper english words, but do appear on that list and nowhere else relevant.
Considering how it seems like they've generated these "words" using random sequence of letters, it is possible that what you have is not a seed phrase but some customized encoding with random letters split into 7 letter chunks that look like words.
Does that ring a bell?
Apparently these files were made just by collecting all the alphabetical sequences that appear in a number of text files

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September 13, 2023, 07:22:32 PM
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It is not the seed phrase for an old wallet, because then you have 12 words. And it is also probably not password.
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September 18, 2023, 04:22:34 PM
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So I happened to find a seed phrase for an old wallet used to receive the five free coins from the faucet in 2010. Unfortunately I have no clue about which wallet it is.

The seed phrase is only 8 words of 7 characters, and is not BIP39.

After whole lot of googling I encountered this wordlist, and all the words appear there http://rabbit.eng.miami.edu/dics/amerlen/length07.txt Several of the words are not even proper english words, but do appear on that list and nowhere else relevant. The wordlist has 108824 words, and the words in phrase seem to be spread over the whole range.

Will pay 10% for tip leading to access.



Its either a

1) blockchain.info wallet that used to generate a seed for the password
2) Multibit Classic wallet
3) Electrum custom seed

You can download most of these and check what addresses they generate

Good luck!
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September 19, 2023, 03:57:34 AM
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2) Multibit Classic wallet
3) Electrum custom seed
Both are unlikely.
Multibit generated BIP39 seed phrases that had 12 words whereas OP has a very uncommon and smaller number of words. So it is impossible for it to belong to Multibit.
As for Electrum, considering how it is not user friendly to generate a custom seed which for example would require having a much bigger word list that would generate smaller number of words in the phrase, I'd say it is unlikely.

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September 19, 2023, 08:38:15 AM
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The seed phrase is only 8 words of 7 characters, and is not BIP39.
2) Multibit Classic wallet
3) Electrum custom seed
The user clearly stated that it is not BIP39 and he also searched for BIP39 words list,  I think he did not find them in the list of words in English. The best guess is that he will find them here https://github.com/blockchain/unused-My-Wallet/blob/master/mnemonic_words_v3.html on Although I think it would be part of the solution since he need UID but it's better than nothing.

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September 21, 2023, 04:53:15 PM
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It cannot be any kind of hierarchical wallet because that was not invented until around 2013 or 2014 IIRC. So the secret words probably decode to a single legacy private key.

Whether it is compressed or uncompressed, I don't know, but maybe it's an old version of Armory, if that was even around back then.

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