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September 11, 2023, 04:28:30 PM
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Even if all the rich people out there in world gathered around in a circle to claim that they will put free BTC in my own seed phrase, I ain't going to bite even if it was a legitimate one. I would be more curious to how they got my deets so that they can contact me, although I would already assume this is the usual method by scammers in gathering raw contact information for cold emails/calls/messages just to bait the crap out of them.

If possible as well, just use a separate wallet that would be entirely for "utilized purposes" not for hodling. I do have separate wallet for hodling and many others for "utility" where active transactions come by.

Airdrops are kinda 80/20 for me especially when back in the days, one project in here claimed to have partnership with MEW that was just attempting to phish me. I couldn't keep track of the airdrops I joined back around 2018, so I cannot say which is which.
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September 11, 2023, 04:47:04 PM
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Even if all the rich people out there in world gathered around in a circle to claim that they will put free BTC in my own seed phrase, I ain't going to bite even if it was a legitimate one. I would be more curious to how they got my deets so that they can contact me, although I would already assume this is the usual method by scammers in gathering raw contact information for cold emails/calls/messages just to bait the crap out of them.

If possible as well, just use a separate wallet that would be entirely for "utilized purposes" not for hodling. I do have separate wallet for hodling and many others for "utility" where active transactions come by.

Airdrops are kinda 80/20 for me especially when back in the days, one project in here claimed to have partnership with MEW that was just attempting to phish me. I couldn't keep track of the airdrops I joined back around 2018, so I cannot say which is which.

Yeah, I am using a hardware wallet to hold assets for the long term and I also have a wallet that I use for everyday transactions. Precaution is good and we all should take it. The area of airdrop is a bit different now than before. Now users need to do a lot of tasks and use their funds to be eligible for an airdrop. It is not easy nowadays so people don't fall for those free few hundred dollars worth of tokens anymore. But when they saw a potential airdrop project made an announcement about the airdrop that why were working for they could not resist themself not to clicking the link because of the hard work they had done to get it. They don't think twice because of FOMO. But we should be cautious because we have see how official discord and twitter can be hacked easily and promote fake link by the scammers.


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September 11, 2023, 05:26:53 PM
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So are you telling me that if the real Elon Musk or Vitalik account on Twitter ask you to provide your seed phrase to them for some checkups or freebies you will not think twice? Simply because the request is coming from the real Elon or Vitalik account?
Elon musk and /or Vitalik or anyone at all doesn't have the right to ask you to send your seed phrase, your seed phrase is meant to be super private and anyone demanding it definitely has some shady motives, crypto-currency is transparent so with just your address they can view the wallet but demanding seed phrase is going to far.

Also their are hackers that can and in history has hacked the account of reputable people and deceived many into sending them funds so it's not wise giving out your private details.

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September 11, 2023, 05:59:05 PM
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So are you telling me that if the real Elon Musk or Vitalik account on Twitter ask you to provide your seed phrase to them .......................
I as a person stay the hell away from every freebies and that includes airdrops too, because even if they are legit the amount isn't going to be much anyway, why waste your time? Hackers are increasing their standards every day, make sure you are increasing yours as well, even Vitalik Buterin and Satoshi himself is not safe, if you get messages from them, even if it's the real them, and they ask for your key, my brother and sisters RUN.
I did not really knew that Twitter account of Vitalik has been hacked and it leads to the stolen of $691K dollars. I don't even follow him but that's really sad. I feel sorry for those who lost funds. Your suggestion are really valid but dear OP try to look this from an eye of a Airdrop Hunter who have made hell lot of money out of such adventures. People used to take risk with the money they have earned from the same type of adventures.

People do knew the risks involved but still they should have stop themselves from falling for this shit. I mean it is easy to say but I can feel the FOMO which must have created among those who became victim to this hack. I have seen people sending money to CEO and other influencer's account and they are sending hell lot of money just because the author said something about Airdrop and shared a wallet address too.

Then how those people could stop themselves from sending money to Real Vitalik's address while they knew him. I really amazed to see people to today generation still fall for such shit. The hacker must be chilling and making fun of the victims. But I do not want to stretch this thing out more and I came to agree with you on the fact that we should not send our assets to anyone and not even think of giving our key to someone even not to our loved ones. Because directly or indirectly hackers could get to them.

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September 11, 2023, 06:16:28 PM
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Why would Satoshi or Elon musk be requesting for my private keys I think that should be the first question that will pop from my head for me to quickly code that it's all coming from a scam attempt. How much coins do I even own that will be sufficient for these personalities that of all people in the universe I am the one they're chose to request for my private key through a PM.

When we also do take time to question ourselves about these categories of messages if received I think it will quick send a signal to us that this is scam in daylight so run. Even in Freetown there are no free things and athe vast scam attempts that has been successful were mainly those done on people who take liken to free things on the crypto space like airdrops,
virtual  mining and multiplers, ponzi scheme etc.
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September 11, 2023, 06:32:44 PM
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So are you telling me that if the real Elon Musk or Vitalik account on Twitter ask you to provide your seed phrase to them for some checkups or freebies you will not think twice? Simply because the request is coming from the real Elon or Vitalik account?

People need to wake the hell up, Vitalik created Ethereum, and because of this he won't dare ask me to provide my seed phrase, hell NO,  what the hell is wrong with people?

Apart from the fact that it's hackers at play here, even if the real people ask for your private key you will give them? It seems many people don't even understand crypto.

Only naive people will fall into this trap.  No matter who asks me about the seed phrase that holds my fund, I won't give it to them.  Or let us say they are legit people asking for my seed phrase for them to check for errors, I would create a new wallet and give the seed phrase of that empty wallet to them.  Since it comes from the same application, there is no difference between the one that has holdings of my fund.
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Satoshi can not wake up today on the forum and send me message to provide my bitcoin wallet key, I will tell him to fu*k off, because this is the right way to protect my fund.

In my case, I will just ignore the message like it is nothing.


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September 11, 2023, 06:38:18 PM
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Why would Satoshi or Elon musk be requesting for my private keys I think that should be the first question that will pop from my head for me to quickly code that it's all coming from a scam attempt. How much coins do I even own that will be sufficient for these personalities that of all people in the universe I am the one they're chose to request for my private key through a PM.
Generally, they would never ask for such confidential things because to my knowledge they had not asked till now. But after the Twitter account of Vitalik got hacked and then hackers posted a tweet in which they shared a link to connect their wallet to in order to gain some NFT and those who attached their wallets to that link got hacked. And till now, according to news people have lost almost $691,000.

When we also do take time to question ourselves about these categories of messages if received I think it will quick send a signal to us that this is scam in daylight so run. Even in Freetown there are no free things and athe vast scam attempts that has been successful were mainly those done on people who take liken to free things on the crypto space like airdrops,
virtual  mining and multiplers, ponzi scheme etc.
You have made valid statements but still, people fall for this scam because they did not know it was not the Vitalik behind this post. If they knew the author of this post was not Vitalik then they might not act on his post. I hope the hacker will come to an end and will face punishment once he gets caught. But till then, we all can and should ignore such types of following and reacting upon such CTA post that requires us to attach our wallets or send some money.

The first thing that if I even have to do or think is, I will make a new wallet address to link it to that wallet from where I can get the NFT but those who connected the main wallet are the ones who definitely did not see it coming. People really should think before doing anything that would make them stupid. We call it FOMO because in FOMO people forget to think for another second and act fast.

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September 11, 2023, 07:44:23 PM
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So are you telling me that if the real Elon Musk or Vitalik account on Twitter ask you to provide your seed phrase to them for some checkups or freebies you will not think twice? Simply because the request is coming from the real Elon or Vitalik account?

People need to wake the hell up, Vitalik created Ethereum, and because of this he won't dare ask me to provide my seed phrase, hell NO,  what the hell is wrong with people?

Apart from the fact that it's hackers at play here, even if the real people ask for your private key you will give them? It seems many people don't even understand crypto.

Satoshi can not wake up today on the forum and send me message to provide my bitcoin wallet key, I will tell him to fu*k off, because this is the right way to protect my fund.

I am really sorry that many people lost their funds to hackers who hacked vitalik account on Twitter but we need to discuss this, it's for your own good when people on here tell to stop seeking for free stuffs, because if it's free you are the product.

The best ways to stay safe in crypto space now is to just DCA, stake if you want and enjoy your life, nothing comes easily anymore, there is no free stuffs in the world, those who want to give up free stuffs want something else too.


1. Avoid clicking links and claiming freebies online, most especially giveaways on social media.
2. Do not hook up your wallet to websites you don't know.

3. Air drops are not even safe too, most from social media are scam, if you are a Airdrop fan, please dedicated a separate wallet for Airdrops only.

I as a person stay the hell away from every freebies and that includes airdrops too, because even if they are legit the amount isn't going to be much anyway, why waste your time? Hackers are increasing their standards every day, make sure you are increasing yours as well, even Vitalik Buterin and Satoshi himself is not safe, if you get messages from them, even if it's the real them, and they ask for your key, my brother and sisters RUN.






Internet scammer are getting sophisticated day by day with their online scams.
The other day, a friend of my was sent a message on Facebook, immediately she clicked the link sent, her Facebook log in details where changed. She couldn't access her account anymore. The next day, the person that hacked the account started asking for money from her friends on her Facebook account, this is a habit she doesn't indulge in.

So everybody should be mindful of scammers especially on social media, It will save you greatly for being cautious.

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September 11, 2023, 07:54:30 PM
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Why most people forget that someone who has access to your private key is 100% in control of that account , once Bitcoin or any Cryptocurrency is widrawn from such account it is irreversible, do most people think before making decision, some times we need to apply wisdom.
I do not need to become a victim before knowing how to secure my funds, it's kind of frustrating losing my investment.
I also believe sharing this Forum to other Crypto holders is necessary, let them come and secure more knowledge from here, it has helped many already including me
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September 12, 2023, 04:25:00 AM
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So are you telling me that if the real Elon Musk or Vitalik account on Twitter ask you to provide your seed phrase to them for some checkups or freebies you will not think twice? Simply because the request is coming from the real Elon or Vitalik account?

It always surprises me when someone gets scammed due to hunting for free stuff online, and most of these things are due to greed if not someone who wants to help you will not respect your privacy. If you check it well, you will know that Elon Musk won't ask for your seed phrase, and even if someone claims to do that, at least one has to think well first because scammers are everywhere now, and why Elon Musk would even request it is what is supposed to come to their mind, but these people are blind; the only thing they see are these freebies that they promise to give them or that they can claim without putting in their funds. Or efforts  Seriously, I’m in the place where anything I see online about crypto I don’t believe until I DYOR or come in to the forum and confirm if it was to scam people, and from there someone will know.

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September 12, 2023, 05:11:03 AM
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Lol. Didn't you know your seed phrase automatically gets censored when you post it? Here's mine: **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****!
No really, don't! People fall for anything.
Too many people are too naive to be their own bank.

In all seriousness though, there isn't a conceivable way to detect what words are seed phrases or not, because you can use any wordlist you want and the algorithm would be fooled easily.

Private keys though.... you can easily spot a base58 WIF so it should be quite easy to block all base58 sequences, since overwhelmingly, they are for storing addresses and private keys. I mean, Twitter (when it was still called that) did just that a few years ago but only for addresses, but it's keys that need to be censored here.

<then again, free speech market economics dictate that it's a bad idea to censor anything that is legal, so it might be a pill that few can swallow.>

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September 12, 2023, 06:39:34 AM
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Private keys though.... you can easily spot a base58 WIF so it should be quite easy to block all base58 sequences, since overwhelmingly, they are for storing addresses and private keys. I mean, Twitter (when it was still called that) did just that a few years ago but only for addresses, but it's keys that need to be censored here.

<then again, free speech market economics dictate that it's a bad idea to censor anything that is legal, so it might be a pill that few can swallow.>
As theymos wrote in another topic: you can't help everyone if they're that naive. I've only once seen someone post funded private keys, but I've seen many more posts that contain a private key for valid reasons. Split-key vanity address creation for instance. Let's not start censoring those.

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This may look very ridiculous but people fall for this scam almost every day. It's just wild out there. Sometimes I try to understand their thought process, I try to understand what anybody at all, talk more figures like Elon Musk and celebrities will want with their seed phase. I guess it's just naivety. That's the only explanation I can come up with. Some people say greed, but I don't think greed alone will do because no matter how greedy a person is he won't fall for such scams if he understands what it means.

Even banks tell their customers that they will never ask them for their login details or card details. So why would anybody think a different person altogether asking for your seed phase or log in details to bank accounts and so on is fine? That kind of scam is too cheap for people to fall so easily.

Sometimes hackers hack the accounts of these influential people and ask their followers to send a certain amount of Bitcoin to their wallets so it can be double back to them. That's just insane. Anybody at all that asked you for that, be it Bitcoin or any other currency is a scammer.
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September 12, 2023, 09:18:49 AM
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So are you telling me that if the real Elon Musk or Vitalik account on Twitter ask you to provide your seed phrase to them for some checkups or freebies you will not think twice? Simply because the request is coming from the real Elon or Vitalik account?

People need to wake the hell up, Vitalik created Ethereum, and because of this he won't dare ask me to provide my seed phrase, hell NO,  what the hell is wrong with people?


It is like giving your vault keys to someone who is popular but doesn't make sense right?

Why do we need to give our keys to someone else, That is the purpose of our decentralization which is to be your own bank so if anything goes wrong then it can only be possible if we make mistakes.



I remember the famous incident that happened on a Twitter platform which is about messages coming from verified profiles of rich people from Bill Gates, Elon, and hundreds of others asking you to send BTC to an address and mentioning they will double the funds back in the next few hours and actually people fell for it cause it's coming from verified profits and they thought rich people may feel generous today.

But in the end, it's coming from hackers who entirely hacked the Twitter platform.









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September 12, 2023, 11:26:30 AM
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So are you telling me that if the real Elon Musk or Vitalik account on Twitter ask you to provide your seed phrase to them for some checkups or freebies you will not think twice? Simply because the request is coming from the real Elon or Vitalik account?

Let's use the forum for instance. If I eventually recieve a message from theymos for my private key. I'll assume he was referring to my address because I don't have it on my profile, I will send him my address and sit back to see how much will be paid into it Grin

It's amazing how different the information is here on the forum and on social networks. People on social networks are zombies; what the crowd does is force every greedy individual user to be tempted and rush to not miss the train.
You have been in this forum for many years before I registered as a newbie. From my newbie days till today, I can say that I am 10x wiser than I used to be before joining this forum. If I should claim x10 wiser, you should be x50 wiser. No matter how intelligent people on social media may pose to be, not many of them are wise. There is a special kind of exposure this forum gives that they lack.

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Apart from the fact that it's hackers at play here, even if the real people ask for your private key you will give them? It seems many people don't even understand crypto.
This reminds me of someone I tutored a few years ago. In one our classes I told him on no account should he release his passphrase or password to anyone, including me. Few days later, I tested him and asked him to release the passphrase to me. He refused. I told him I wanted to check for something. Guess what? He released it. I told him he just messed up. I was his tutor and I let him know he shouldn't do that. Then I wonder how those who release theirs to random strangers reason.

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Frankly, I don't feel any pity for such people. Their greed got them into it. Those who always crave freebies as if money grows on trees will always be victims to such.

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People need to wake the hell up, Vitalik created Ethereum, and because of this he won't dare ask me to provide my seed phrase, hell NO,  what the hell is wrong with people?

Vitalik Buterin has revealed how his account was hacked through a sim swap, a mistake he must have done maybe through  a kyc process in signing up on X formerly twitter.

This is why KYC is discouraged and frowned at because of the risk it can put you, exposing your data to any successful phishing attacks on these centralized companies or exchanges.

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I mean this is just pretty common these days because there are already a lot of hackers and scammers online that really want to get some money from people or investors so they are really desperate making every possible move just to get one victim. I mean for sure there are a lot of people and investors that get caught in this kind of work, and for sure they are getting scammed because these people still continue to do this kind of thing because they are still earning on this dirty work, for sure if they are not earning anymore, or they didn't scam a single people they are going to stop doing this already.

So for sure, there was no work around it What we really need is just to learn about this kind of thing because if we know what they are doing we can easily protect ourselves from this scammer and they can't do anything for us if we have knowledge about it. It doesn't really matter if it's Elon Musk or it's some famous person out there First of all they for sure not going to message you at all, as well as you should not give your seed phrase to anyone.

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I as a person stay the hell away from every freebies and that includes airdrops too, because even if they are legit the amount isn't going to be much anyway, why waste your time? Hackers are increasing their standards every day, make sure you are increasing yours as well, even Vitalik Buterin and Satoshi himself is not safe, if you get messages from them, even if it's the real them, and they ask for your key, my brother and sisters RUN.

Free things in the cryptocurency industry are so old school as they're not worth our time anymore because majority are just worth nothing. Airdrop that are worth participating in doesn't demand you to like or retweet their post on twitter or other platforms. Those projects now demand their product to be tested by you and give them feedback so they can work on improving their product. Airdrop that are worth participating in now demand you be among their first adopters and make use of their platforms through testnet or mainnet. If the airdrops aren't in this form then they're as good as nothing and  a total waste of your time. The only time airdrop were worth something was back in 2016/2017 during the bull market that projects where looking for means to make their projects more popular.

So are you telling me that if the real Elon Musk or Vitalik account on Twitter ask you to provide your seed phrase to them for some checkups or freebies you will not think twice? Simply because the request is coming from the real Elon or Vitalik account?

Those affected by this types of scams are the greedy people that are thinking the industry is a get rich quick scheme because they made some profits with beem lucky on some investment that they made profits from without knowing they could have lost everything because those projects didn't even last in the market. Also those that aren't rightful informed (newbies joining the industry without a mentor or getting the right information on the security of the wallet, investment etc). This type of scams has been happening for sometime now so anybody that's up to date with what's happening on the industry should be aware of this type of scams. People should learn to stay up to date and they won't be victim in the future.

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So are you telling me that if the real Elon Musk or Vitalik account on Twitter ask you to provide your seed phrase to them for some checkups or freebies you will not think twice? Simply because the request is coming from the real Elon or Vitalik account?
I will never give out my personal details to him or her because I know that Elon or Vitalik will never demand for my seeds phrase because they keep telling us on social media never to believe in any message using the name of the company to demand for any seeds phrase or money from anybody which they will never make such decision to any of their users.
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People need to wake the hell up, Vitalik created Ethereum, and because of this he won't dare ask me to provide my seed phrase, hell NO,  what the hell is wrong with people?
if you look very well, you will discovered that those falling victim to those scammers are lazy people for my personal research, because it's only a lazy person that will be looking for where he or she didn't sow to reap, and it will lead them to loss fund. How can someone will be telling you on social media to send your seeds phrase to confirm something before they can believe you are the owner of the wallet before they can send the coins to your wallet. I don't think there is a free money anywhere in the world my people, and if you don't want to loose your money to hackers don't display your personal details to anybody.
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if you get messages from them, even if it's the real them, and they ask for your key, my brother and sisters RUN.
Once I discovered that the message carry congratulations you have won amount of money from our platform and we want you to verify, if truly you are the one that participate in that train to be among the best, and I will quickly delete the message after reading without fear of missing an opportunity because,some people see it as an opportunity to them and  land in the hands of hackers.

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