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September 13, 2023, 10:01:01 PM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

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September 13, 2023, 10:07:53 PM
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I prefer to DCA based on set percentage all the way up,  because no one knows what the ATH price of Bitcoin will be so at that it becomes obviously clear that we all have to depend on speculations to make our final price prediction and that will all be based on just speculations,  and in most cases some people may miss the train trying to reach a set amount before sell.

It is good to have a speculated amount/price in mind for your long-term Bitcoin holding,  but if the all-time high should happen you shouldn't set a target but rather take a percentage of profits that put you in the best position.
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September 13, 2023, 10:25:35 PM
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How do you determine when is the good time to sell?

It is very simple to do, if i enter the market as at when the market was $32 and i invested and hold till now when the market run dip as low as $26,000, this meas obviously I can't sell than to keep holding, next year if the market surges and we had a bullrun and there's a new all time high, whereby bitcoin rise pass the $68,000 to about $150,000 or more, then i can sell, the difference is in the patient to hold and the time required in doing so.

in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

If the market rises and keep rising, the peak could be depict when we begin to have nothing less than $100,000 and after then the market will run dip below that ATH.
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September 13, 2023, 10:32:05 PM
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For now, perhaps many people's dream is to see BTC at $100k and that will be our target to sell some of our BTC holdings. But to know in detail when that will happen, of course everyone will not know. In other words, investing in BTC has a better direction to target their dream of selling BTC, whether it is passing the new ATH or approaching the new ATH and it all depends on the target of each individual's stance.

Now for the second answer |  How can we say that the price of BTC has reached its peak while currently the BTC price is below a 61% decline from the highest price. So it is not appropriate for those who invest in the long term to sell their BTC holdings below the highest price. Unless they are in an urgent situation or need money quickly and have no other choice but to sell BTC and for sure they will regret that decision. So, if they trade daily, they will definitely continue to sell when profits come to them.

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September 13, 2023, 10:35:00 PM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?
If you are making profit already, you can sell at anytime that you want.

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up?
If some peak prices are not gotten to, you may not be able to set a goal price. My goal price is $100000. If it fall from $100000, I will buy more and expected higher price.

Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?
It is not easy like this. In the last bull run, you remember that bitcoin got to $50000, fall back to $28900. It increased back to $50000 and reach $63500 or so and it fall again to $30000. It increased again and reach $69000 before the bear market started.

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September 13, 2023, 11:01:51 PM
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We all do want to profit on the next bull run.  And to determine when to sell, I simply set a target selling price.  When the market hits the price regardless of the market condition, I sell my holdings. I always wanted to keep it simple when it comes to making a profit in Bitcoin.  By doing this kind of approach, I save myself from the frustration and dissappointment when the price of BTC drops since BTC always recovers and then breaks its ATH.

I do not plan on selling on the ATH, it would be hard to determine but with the target selling price, it is easy for me to decide when it hits that target price.

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September 13, 2023, 11:02:34 PM
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Will be taking profits in batches and that batches will be base on price and not time frame, once it reaches each price target will withdraw certain percentage. For example the price clocks around the current all time high then I will withdraw some percentage of my intended profit and after that will take next profit around 100k.

How do I know if we reached the peak is certainly when the price is doubling the current all time high which would be above 100k at that point I would place my believe of it surpassing that much again and will consider it the peak.

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September 13, 2023, 11:13:34 PM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?
This is a nice question but the question is answerable because determining when to sell bitcoin is depend on the amount you bought Bitcoin bitcoin because the amount you bought a coin will give or make you to have a target of particular time bitcoin should be sell if you it happens to enter a bullrun, selling your coin during a bullrun is a choice of individual person not choice of many people, so I believe that every one who wants to sell his or her coin during bullrun doesn't not rush to sell but they calculated their profits and lose before they will sell bitcoins or any other coins

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September 13, 2023, 11:29:07 PM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
My personal satisfaction to sell and when I think I need to sell, that's all just based on my feeling and also my needs.

in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?
I wouldn't know that because at most times when I sell, there goes a higher price that comes but then it pulls back so that makes me satisfy that I've sold in a quite high price.

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens?
Yes, I do have and that's why I'm saving a certain amount for that price.

Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?
About determining the peak, it doesn't matter to me. As long as I'm able to sell at a higher price when I bought it or acquired it, that's already a win to me. And yes, I'd probably sell incrementally when the price keeps on going up but for a certain price, I've said that I have determined a quantity that it should be just sold on that particular price.

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September 14, 2023, 01:21:13 AM
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Bitcoin is a life changing technology, so I would say that you probably shouldn’t sell it until you can get a life changing sun of money for your investment. There’s a chance that all you have to do is stack and wait. So rather than focus on a certain price, I would say to focus on what you would do with the money. Eliminate debt or secure your future and I’d say selling was worth it.

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September 14, 2023, 02:22:36 AM
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No one will ever know for sure when the peak will be and as long as you are already in a big profit position then any time is a good time to sell unless you are targeting a price that is higher than the price that will be achieved in the bull run later because there are people who have very high patience to wait any longer because you know the profits will be greater the longer you keep it.
However, usually the price will start to increase a year later and at the end of the year it will start to fall, for example, the halving will be in 2024 then the bull run will be in 2025 and the end of that year will have experienced a decline so if you are targeting to make a profit, do it when the price has shown a decline, especially if you have collected it now.

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No one can know what is the lowest low of this bear season and no one knows what is the highest peak of bitcoin in the upcoming bull season. Therefore, selling according to the goals you have set is the best thing. I have also set a target for my investment and I will only sell when bitcoin reaches that target, and $100k and $150k are my goals. I will sell half when bitcoin reaches 100k$ and the rest will only sell when it reaches 150k$. But if in case bitcoin cannot reach that level, I will continue to hold bitcoin until another bull season comes. I have enough time to play long term with bitcoin Wink.

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Well last cycle everyone wanted to sell at $100K or at least close to it. I think I wanted to sell at like $90-95K. But I guess many people decided to not be greedy and sold earlier at $69K. Hence it was the top.

This is why you can’t predict the top. If bitcoin touches $100k it won’t be the top, it will most likely go higher. Same reason why $10k wasn’t the top in 2017 and $50K wasn’t the top on 2021.

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There are indicators in chart to identify we are at the peak like the RSI. Its somehow can decieve chart readers though but obviously when it touches 70, its already a good time to sell.

It could go up more than the selling price you set but eventually the market will come down making your decision to be right still. Generally, as long as you profit, there is no bad decision.


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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?
for me , it doesn't need to be Peak because what I only wanted is a breaking again of the recent ATH and I'm good, though i will try to wait more to 100k , but if this hinders the increase for a week then i will sell at the range.

There are indicators in chart to identify we are at the peak like the RSI. Its somehow can decieve chart readers though but obviously when it touches 70, its already a good time to sell.

It could go up more than the selling price you set but eventually the market will come down making your decision to be right still. Generally, as long as you profit, there is no bad decision.
don't think that 70 is a good time to buy because that is just a 1k above the past ATH, for me it is at least 80k and up to best making decisions.









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Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?
There is a target selling price, but when there is already a profit from the purchase price, when certain conditions require selling, I will release it as much as necessary, not release everything because the basic target cannot be removed.
Regarding selling bitcoin, I try to hold until the target return is achieved. If there is another option that can cover urgent needs without having to sell it, then that is the option I will do.

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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

You’re never going to sell the exact top but there are clues when to sell some. Obviously never sell your entire stack, that’s just insanity. There are many charts & models that tell you when the market is overbought which could indicate a top such as following the RSI. Do your own research though, some point from Q2 of 2025 towards the end of the year is a good time to sell some.

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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Perhaps, no one can predict the actual peak value so it is all about our profit margin and how long we can stretch it out which may involve simple strategies like I am going to sell when I made this amount of profit or other strategies like selling their stacks in batches so at some point they might be able to sell at the near value of ATH.

I would say when you make 2x of profits then its already a really good time to sell your entire stack and wait for the next dip but as we know, nobody is going to be satisfied no matter how profitable they are now.









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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?
The question looks so simple, but it is not easy to give the answer even though it sounds very simple. However, on this occasion I will still provide a few answers regarding when is the right time to sell? then the answer is when you see the profits and feel satisfied with those profits. But for the answer to when we know a price has reached a peak, this is a little difficult to say because the guideline doesn't necessarily have to look at the ATH number that has been reached on a particular coin or cryptocurrency in the market in the past.

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Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?
My goal in selling is because there is already a profit, but if conditions are experiencing a downturn I will not immediately sell even though I have not yet made a loss and can still make a profit. I will continue to hold it until I see the next increase in the market because usually after a price decrease there will definitely be another price increase in the future and those are two things that I see very often in the market so I don't really care about the peak price because it is very it is difficult to know what peak price will occur in a coin like Bitcoin for example.

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No one knows how far the highest value of Bitcoin or the coins we will hold until the bull run will reach. But we should really have a target price for when we will sell it, knowing that we already have big savings no matter what. And when our target is not reached, it is now up to us if we should extend our holdings in the coins we hold. Now, if, for example, our target price is still 50% less than our expected price value, meaning you have a profit anyway, it's up to us if we sell it; it's that simple.

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in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?
When everyone is greedy and greedy about Bitcoin and the price will increase, yet trading volumes decrease and positive news flows, all of which is fake, then you know that it is time to sell. I will sell somewhere near $100k to $125k and will buy again when the price is 70k, I don't plan on spending Bitcoin for the next 4 years so my goal is to try to double what I have.

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Its important thing in trading have to use set goals for selling assets, actually if investing in Bitcoin we have target until how long investing in bitcoin and our goals price of bitcoin for selling it. To make less greedy with some trader when getting their assets have been in higher price is very important for setting goal target when time for selling bitcoin, its not important in the future have any good news and many outside predicting when in the higher price make them blame and hold until bitcoin or another coins investment back to lower price.

I have long term planning with bitcoin investment and selling Bitcoin or good time for selling assets when raising up above 40% of my investment price, its not matter have adopt with long or short term investment during not raise with my target selling price I don't try to sell and keep holding after researching with bitcoin target or altcoin possibility raise up with my predict price in the future.

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It depends on the target selling price of each trader. But if the Bitcoin price in the bull run can exceed $60k and reach above $80k, that is a good price target to sell Bitcoin. But every trader must have a target selling price so it will vary.

But if you use the strategy "buy at a low price and sell at a higher price," it will only depend on market movements. You don't wait for the price to get a bull run but instead sell the Bitcoin every time it reaches a high price. It will give you profits; if you can repeat it, your profits will be even greater.

The important thing is that you have to know the target selling price you want. You can sell if the Bitcoin price has reached the target selling price. And don't be greedy because you expect bigger profits because usually, that will cause us not to get the biggest profits.

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That’s an interesting question. I feel many people sell the coins when it reaches a particular price. They set the price target for the bull run, and once it reaches it, they sell the coins. But if you ask me then my answer will be different. As I am treating Bitcoins as a lifetime investment opportunity, so I don’t have any plans to sell them, no matter what’s the price is. I only sell the coins whenever I am in need of emergency funds. Otherwise I don’t have any plans to sell these valuable coins.

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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

I guess no one can time the market, same time as we don't know when we are going to see the lowest low during bear market. However, if we look at the past history of bitcoin, 2017 peaks in December, and then 2021 it's around November. So perhaps around that time in 2025, last quarter of the year will be the best bet that we might reach the highest price for that bull cycle.

So for me, that is my goal on when to sell, it might not be the highest price, but at least around that ball park time frame and see how big the price will be.

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How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?
When it reaches ATH, let's say the price at that time is at $80k, it means that ATH has been passed and it has become our profit because when we bought btc at a price around $30k.
You never know but people say 100k is already at the top so that's their target.

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?
Of course we have a goal price of let's say 100k or 150k, or it's a good idea to sell defensively in the range of 100k and above or slightly below, I think when they have pocketed 3x profit then that's big enough.

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I prefer to DCA based on set percentage all the way up...

Me too. I tentatively plan to make two sales: when the price approaches the previous ATH and when it approaches $100K. If you're in the mood for cash in the profit it's best to do it a few thousand earlier because when those figures are approached a lot of sell orders are placed and they are hard to beat. So better to sell at $95K than at $105K, but if you are not in a hurry better wait for $105K and you will have an approximate 10% more profitability. I did something like that in the last bull market and depending on how things go I will sell more if we have a very good bullish cycle, and if after the second sale the price goes down and becomes bearish I will keep accumulating.

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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

I have a ladder up set at

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5% of my coins for each step up

If we reach 151515.15 I would still have 50% of my btc Not sure if I would set a new ladder up if we get there.

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It is very simple to do, if i enter the market as at when the market was $32 and i invested and hold till now when the market run dip as low as $26,000, this meas obviously I can't sell than to keep holding, next year if the market surges and we had a bullrun and there's a new all time high, whereby bitcoin rise pass the $68,000 to about $150,000 or more, then i can sell, the difference is in the patient to hold and the time required in doing so.

So if it reaches $67k and starts gradually falling from there, would you not sell at all? And how exactly do you determine whether to sell just above $68k or wait for potential $150k?

If the market rises and keep rising, the peak could be depict when we begin to have nothing less than $100,000 and after then the market will run dip below that ATH.

What do you mean "keep rising"? You will never see a situation when it goes up every day. Zoom in the chart for any period and you'll see that even during the rally you have periods of the price going down.

A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
My personal satisfaction to sell and when I think I need to sell, that's all just based on my feeling and also my needs.

Are you a woman?

Bitcoin is a life changing technology, so I would say that you probably shouldn’t sell it until you can get a life changing sun of money for your investment. There’s a chance that all you have to do is stack and wait. So rather than focus on a certain price, I would say to focus on what you would do with the money. Eliminate debt or secure your future and I’d say selling was worth it.

That's a "hodler" strategy, but I'm more interested in the aproach from a trader's point of view. i.e. If you only have 1btc (most people have much less than that) and consider the "life changing amount" to be, say $2 millions, then sitting and waiting might not be a best idea. You're much more likely to hit your target by trading.

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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

I always use the fibonacci level to determine the sweet spot on taking profit. You can use different time frame on when to apply the level to get the perfect take profit since fibonacci level is base on previous high low and it reflects its counterpart future predictions which trader typically follow.

It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. Use longer time frame such as monthly to apply fibo so that you can have an idea to what is the possible price to take profit. Just take profit on price within each level to have a greater chance to sell on a price resistance which is the sweet spot for selling.

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Well last cycle everyone wanted to sell at $100K or at least close to it. I think I wanted to sell at like $90-95K. But I guess many people decided to not be greedy and sold earlier at $69K. Hence it was the top.

This is why you can’t predict the top. If bitcoin touches $100k it won’t be the top, it will most likely go higher. Same reason why $10k wasn’t the top in 2017 and $50K wasn’t the top on 2021.

Similar. I wasn't dead-set on selling and didn't mind holding till another cycle, but virtually every expert was predicting $100k as a minimum so was aiming to sell around that and buy back later.

There are indicators in chart to identify we are at the peak like the RSI. Its somehow can decieve chart readers though but obviously when it touches 70, its already a good time to sell.
It could go up more than the selling price you set but eventually the market will come down making your decision to be right still. Generally, as long as you profit, there is no bad decision.

Whether or not selling at $70k was a good move is something you will know only after the bull run ends. If it goes up to $500k and never goes back down to sub $100k, then I'd consider selling at $70k as a big mistake. I don't subscribe to the opinion that any profit is a success.
RSI is an indicator definitely worth considering, but I wouldn't rely on that alone.

But if the Bitcoin price in the bull run can exceed $60k and reach above $80k, that is a good price target to sell Bitcoin. But every trader must have a target selling price so it will vary.

For anyone who held through the previous ATH, selling at $80k is a really poor return and doesn't even beat inflation. I wouldn't never sell all stash at that price, maybe max 20%.

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45454.50
55555.50
65656.50
76767.60
87878.70
98989.80
121212.12
131313.13
141414.14
151515.15

5% of my coins for each step up

If we reach 151515.15 I would still have 50% of my btc Not sure if I would set a new ladder up if we get there.

Wouldn't you be tempted to sell more if it becomes evident that the $150k was the peak and we're only going down from there? Also, are you going to buy back after the bull run, or just consume the profits?

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I have a ladder up set at

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55555.50
65656.50
76767.60
87878.70
98989.80
121212.12
131313.13
141414.14
151515.15

5% of my coins for each step up

If we reach 151515.15 I would still have 50% of my btc Not sure if I would set a new ladder up if we get there.

Wouldn't you be tempted to sell more if it becomes evident that the $150k was the peak and we're only going down from there? Also, are you going to buy back after the bull run, or just consume the profits?

Don't know we are not there yet.

I am old for the crypto world.

I am 66 years old I am not wealthy and I am not poor.

I do not have a ton of btc , but I do mine and am stacking at the moment.

If we go into the bull in 2025 I will have more stacked coin than if we go bull in fall of 2024.

So if we sunup and I start sell in 2025 from 44k to 150k ladder up would likely mean I had 2btc  sold 1 netted 100k and have a coin left  It would be very tempting to sell at least 1/2 of the remaining btc at 130-140 k

I would end up selling about 1.5 btc for about 165k.  It would be a nice supplement to what I have and I may continue mining. And setting up a downwards buy ladder.

I have other monies and by 2025 could have enough from other holdings that I do not give a shit about btc. I would simply hodl all of it.

realistically having 5btc in hand  for the 2025 bull run is not likely unless something weird happens.


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September 14, 2023, 05:17:52 PM
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Of course we want to sell at the highest price possible as an act of greed but we have always dreamed of $100K to offload some bitcoins defensively if the price continues to rise.

We see from this goal is with the previous cycle how much the increase from the previous ATH whether it is 1x, 2x or 3x but in the sense that when people buy the lowest price let's say with a price below $15K they already get to multiply with a price of $70K but the average of us is unlikely to buy at $15K of course it is above that and see how our average purchase with DCA.

Obviously I want to do it defensively with sales, I don't even want to spend all of it, after there is 30% left I want to accumulate more.

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It makes no sense to sell now. Almost all possible negative news has already happened, and the time for positive news should come soon. I think that such news will start to appear in the spring of 2024, so we don't have long to wait. Soon is halving, and that's something to remember.
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It makes no sense to sell now. Almost all possible negative news has already happened, and the time for positive news should come soon. I think that such news will start to appear in the spring of 2024, so we don't have long to wait. Soon is halving, and that's something to remember.

Frankly 40k is needed soon due to the 1/2 ing approaching us.

If we are in march 2024  and not close to 40k we have serious issues for miners. I am wondering if we get a pre 1/2ing  rally.

march 2015 $244

sept    2015 $236
oct      2015 $314
nov     2015 $376
dec     2015 $430
jan     2016  $369
feb.    2016  $437
mar.   2016  $416
apr.    2016  $448
may.   2016 $531
jun      2016 $672
1/2 ing  600 or so
jul.      2016. $624

so we may get a relief rally  for miners which will have us over 40k in time for the 1/2ing

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Not really, just because it's here, doesn't mean that it will crash, and just because we feel like it "may" crash doesn't mean that we are right. We should let it be and that should be a lot better on the long term. I get that it is going to be a tough job, but as long as we make it work, we should be fine.

I believe that it is going to take some time but as long as we let it be as it is, it should be making us profit the more we wait. I get that life is not that simple in most cases, waiting is hard, but we can do it. Crashing is something that could hurt it, but you could DCA and do fine. Life is not simple, and doing something like this could result with a great profit without doing much, take the simple pleasures of life.

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You don't have to know if we have reached the peak, all you need to look out for is Bitcoin beating it's old all time high, that's when you should start taking profits, you don't have to sell everything at once, that's wrong way of taking profit, you want to slowly take profit because you can't tell how further the price of Bitcoin wants to go.

It's possible for Bitcoin to reach a new all time high, it's pretty clear if you look at it's past price actions, maybe we will reach 120k in the next bull market? No one knows, but instead of waiting it's better to start taking profit somewhere between 80k range and above, once we hit 80k im good, that's where I will start taking my own profit and I will wait for the dominance to start falling, then I will bounce on altcoins too.

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Don't we already plan something when we invest? That includes the return target that we will take, right?
So if I have gotten a return in line with my initial target, then it is very likely that I will completely get out of the investment regardless of whether I will exceed a few percent by that level or maybe completely.

This of course does not depend on the time frame, but clearly depends on the price. However, I might be able to make some adjustments such as still holding 20% ​​- 30% of my bitcoins if 70% of them have covered the initial target. This means that I will still hold the other 30% if market conditions are still very supportive.

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Awful time to sell but its always personal because you might just need the money.  Presuming you are able then you dont sell here you hold and ideally you add some on the basis that over time the situation is improving.  The price is almost an irreverent variable, whatever price is there is less important then purely the continuation and progression of BTC to greater things simple as that.   Same goes for any product, sector, commodity, choose something which gains value which is good in position for demand vs supply.
    Speculation is secondary sometimes profitable juggling done by some but its not a requirement, if your base case is sell or hold absolutely all then you dont sell all so long as you agree this market is valid and improving.
  Forget price its the end result of a thousand cogs and gears but main deal to me always has been the machine is continuing its work and price is just a label, its a skin deep guess by the market to enable bid and orders on that particular day.

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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

Sell when in greens - How much? It would really be according into your set goals or targets and this would really vary on each of everyone.
Determining on when to sell would be always be pertaining about the positive side of things, the only differs on here is on how much in % you have gain and it is it really worth the wait?

Knowing the peak? There's no knowing about the peak because if theres one then for sure we had sold out all of our Bitcoin stashes on the time that it did hit 69k and would really be having  that instant crash.
Selling decisions will really vary on someones profit taking measures which there are ones who do mind for short term and there are ones who do really come after for long term holds on which
it doesnt really matter on what are the current present approach because they dont really care on how it should be because there's no way that they would be making up some closure
in regarding into their position.

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The timing of selling has a relation with profit therefore if a person can attain maximum amount of money then thoughts about previous and coming  Bull and bear market is not a concern.

Everyone plans differently some plans to get the chance by waiting for longer time while those of the other investor will fix the amount for profit and as the market reach to that value they will immediately make a profit by selling their coin.

The market is so unpredictable that one will choose profit instead of waiting for more increase but in one case they can wait like that of waiting for halving.
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How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
In general, the good time to sell is of course when the price is already increasing. But many of us prefer to wait longer (this is understandable) for wanting more then ending up missed the opportunity to take profit. Anyway, it depends on what we prefer, if you're already happy with what you gained, sell. Small or big, that's still a profit and that's what matter here.

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens?
I actually I have a set target price on when to sell. But I can't say for now if I will go all in, then buy again when the price decreased or just take profit and still hold some. Let's just see if the time comes.

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No I do not think this is a good time to sell your Bitcoin. If you are feeling you want to sell some Bitcoin I think you should just wait until the next 'bull run'. Right now in this time will not be a good idea.

Or if you want to wait longer we are going to see bigger profits next year. In April or May of next year will be the next halving. And we always see gains when this happens.

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September 15, 2023, 05:55:01 AM
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I use the DCA method as a specific way to sell bitcoins. And it's all based on guesswork because no one can say exactly what Bitcoin will be worth. So since we have to engage in all our activities based on assumptions. Most people wait for the price to be determined correctly and they are more likely to miss the train. No one can determine exactly what the ATH price will be that's why most people face losses when selling at the exact price. In such a case we use the DCA method is the best way since all activities are based on assumptions.

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September 15, 2023, 07:08:22 AM
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No I do not think this is a good time to sell your Bitcoin. If you are feeling you want to sell some Bitcoin I think you should just wait until the next 'bull run'. Right now in this time will not be a good idea.

Or if you want to wait longer we are going to see bigger profits next year. In April or May of next year will be the next halving. And we always see gains when this happens.

I can't understand why they are thinking of selling Bitcoin when there is so little time left until the bull season according to forecasts. They can sell their Bitcoin if you are in debt or need money, but other than these reasons there is no point in selling Bitcoin. They cannot make enough profits, especially when the price is at this level. They can wait for the bull season to come and make more profits.

People should not consider selling Bitcoin every time its price drops. What those who want to make a profit need to do is very simple; Buying when the price of Bitcoin falls and selling when it rises.
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September 15, 2023, 07:57:54 AM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

IMO, the perfect time to sell since nobody knows whether or not we reached the peak during bullrun, it is when bitcoin hits your target. That only if you have set and calculated your profit during the time when you start accumulating bitcoin.
Though seeking for the peak or selling incrementally maybe a good strategy, especially when it exceeded your target, but that will give you enough stress for sure as you will be monitoring the market movement, because bitcoin is so volatile that it would literally drop massively after it peaks. So, chances are you'll miss your target and might probably sell a little below your target.

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September 15, 2023, 08:11:35 AM
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But if the Bitcoin price in the bull run can exceed $60k and reach above $80k, that is a good price target to sell Bitcoin. But every trader must have a target selling price so it will vary.
For anyone who held through the previous ATH, selling at $80k is a really poor return and doesn't even beat inflation. I wouldn't never sell all stash at that price, maybe max 20%.
Maybe it was a bad return. But at least those people who missed out on selling Bitcoin at $60k yesterday could have made quite a profit if they sold it at $80k. And the number of Bitcoins they will sell will also depend on the number of Bitcoins they have.

After the price reaches $80k, there will be another correction if the price is unable to break through the higher price. And that has happened often. We just have to observe how the Bitcoin price moves.

Each of us wants to sell at the highest price. But unfortunately, not many of us can see or discover when the highest price will be reached. So we can only place a sell order at what we think is the highest price we want and wait until it is filled.

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September 15, 2023, 08:51:39 AM
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I have bought my BTC in mix prizes as I take the opportunity when there is a price fall. If ever the bull season will come (probably) I set my selling price to $60k, quite already a double price from the last time I bought BTC at $28k. Might it happen that I sell some earlier before it reaches that price or after depending on the market trend? Of course, the first plan can be changed depending on the market condition but I'm not sure if I still have to wait for the ATH knowing that it was hard to predict it. 

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September 15, 2023, 09:43:54 AM
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I have bought my BTC in mix prizes as I take the opportunity when there is a price fall. If ever the bull season will come (probably) I set my selling price to $60k, quite already a double price from the last time I bought BTC at $28k. Might it happen that I sell some earlier before it reaches that price or after depending on the market trend? Of course, the first plan can be changed depending on the market condition but I'm not sure if I still have to wait for the ATH knowing that it was hard to predict it. 

While you are not wrong to sell BTC because you have made a profit, if you already believe that BTC can recover back to $60k, why don't you put more faith and sell it when it surpasses the old ATH to make a little more profit?

None of us can analyze or predict exactly what bitcoin's highest peak will be in the upcoming bull season, so selling according to a set target is wisest. Don't sell bitcoin based on emotions because greed will always harm us, it never brings good results.

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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

We cannot know for sure that we have peaked but we can adjust our entry and exit times in line with certain paradigms. If you are new to the market, you can support your investment just by looking at halving years. The golden rule is to be patient and not get carried away. If you need to get rich quick, this is not for you. The trend is never just up or down. Therefore, knowing when to buy can help you plan when to sell.

The first step is to know what you want and have a clear strategy. For example, buying a car, paying off debts, etc. To determine when it's time to sell a cryptocurrency you've bought, we first need to follow the rise of the cryptocurrency, and if you've reached two or three times the price of your purchase, you can consider selling all or part of your asset. Selling gradually should always be at the forefront. Because whether you're selling at a loss or at a profit, you'll always have a chance to take a step towards the next move. When investing in a new cryptocurrency, you may be tempted to sell because the project has lost its purpose, is not making progress or innovations. In this case, you should aim to reduce your losses by trying to sell at a reasonable price.

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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

We know it's easy to make an entry, but it is not that easy to exit. Many use different tactics to plan their exit strategy, and I think sharing my own strategy can help others. I usually use three tools to identify different market phases. Here is the name and how I am using it. I will not make this a big post. So I will not explain how they work; instead, I will add a link to where you can learn more about them, and I will only explain how I am using them.

EMA: can be used to identify bitcoin market trends.
Setting: Daily 200 EMA.
Use: Below 200 EMA indicates a bearish market trend, and above it shows a bullish market trend.

S2F Model: Can be used to predict the future price of bitcoin. This uses a simple calculation to calculate the scarcity of bitcoin.
Circulating supply of bitcoin (stock) / newly added bitcoin every year (flow) = Bitcoin S2F ratio.
Use: Red dot = starting of bull, orange and yellow = continuation of bull, green = market peak, blue = starting of bear


Hash Ribbons: Tracking bitcoin hashrate ups and downs can also give us an idea about the market. A drop in the hashrate means the market is bearish sentiment.
Setting: Weekly Chart (that green line is 30 MA and the grey line is 60 MA).
Use: When 30 MA crosses below 60 MA, that indicates a sharp fall in hashrate, and when it is opposite, it indicates an increase in hashrate, which is a bullish signal.


I use some other indicators as well, but these are mostly used to understand market sentiment. They help me to plan my stratgey to accumulate bitcoin for the long term.

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September 15, 2023, 02:37:25 PM
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I have bought my BTC in mix prizes as I take the opportunity when there is a price fall. If ever the bull season will come (probably) I set my selling price to $60k, quite already a double price from the last time I bought BTC at $28k. Might it happen that I sell some earlier before it reaches that price or after depending on the market trend? Of course, the first plan can be changed depending on the market condition but I'm not sure if I still have to wait for the ATH knowing that it was hard to predict it. 

While you are not wrong to sell BTC because you have made a profit, if you already believe that BTC can recover back to $60k, why don't you put more faith and sell it when it surpasses the old ATH to make a little more profit?

None of us can analyze or predict exactly what bitcoin's highest peak will be in the upcoming bull season, so selling according to a set target is wisest. Don't sell bitcoin based on emotions because greed will always harm us, it never brings good results.

Yes I understand what you mean, there are some of them who were initially very confident in the potential for bitcoin to recover to $ 60k soon but maybe there are also some concerns that cross their minds that encourage them to sell now while still in a position of profit and well they will immediately make their sales because maybe they prioritize better prevention than cure even though at first they were sure, honestly in my opinion this is not a problem and also not the wrong thing to do because they are already in a position of profit even though not by a significant amount.
Therefore, I have also said to some of my colleagues if you want to invest, it is better to use money that will not be used for other needs or the point is that you will not be afraid if later that is lost due to losses, if you use money that is ready for any condition then I think there will not be any pressure for yourself to then HOLD longer until bitcoin reaches ATH and obviously you will get more profit there.

Yes I agree with this statement, because it is a fact that it is very difficult to fully predict at what price bitcoin will rise to in the upcoming bullish season, and yes we will return to the decision that you think is best, even though the profit is not too big but it doesn't matter.

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September 15, 2023, 04:19:08 PM
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Of course we want to sell at the highest price possible as an act of greed but we have always dreamed of $100K to offload some bitcoins defensively if the price continues to rise.

The problem with the $100k is that it's psychologically-heavy. When too many people set this as a target, they'll be setting sell orders slightly below, just to make sure they get fulfilled and the rally might end up at a little below the $100k mark. But if we cross that mark with ease, we could see the ath significantly above the $100k. Similarly to the 2017 rally when, after crossing $10k, we went all the way up to almost $20k. Of course it's way harder and takes more capital to get to the $100k than it was to $10k.

It makes no sense to sell now. Almost all possible negative news has already happened, and the time for positive news should come soon. I think that such news will start to appear in the spring of 2024, so we don't have long to wait. Soon is halving, and that's something to remember.

It's a good thing nobody is proposing that. Maybe try to read a bit more than just the topic.

If we are in march 2024  and not close to 40k we have serious issues for miners. I am wondering if we get a pre 1/2ing  rally.

Out of curiosity, since you're a miner, what will you do if we're not at $40k after the halving. Will you just switch your hardware off and wait for how the situation unfolds, or just quit for good and try to sell your mining gear?
And how unprofitable will the mining be at block reward of BTC3.125 and the electricity price at the current levels?

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Nobody knows the peak price of Bitcoin, but I'm sure, it's probably not just me. That the price of Bitcoin in the future will be very expensive because I see the development or progress of Bitcoin which continues to grow, and this is what makes me believe that the future of Bitcoin will be very bright.
And all that doesn't mean I didn't sell Bitcoin during this time, and I still sold it when it hit a new ATH and only sold part of the profits. And to enjoy the benefits, the goal is to buy or fulfill desires that I have planned beforehand and require large costs and I rely on profits from Bitcoin.
And I still buy periodically in small quantities as long as I think the price is reasonable, and I will also increase my purchase amount when the price goes down and normalize it again when it starts to rise.

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With the higher inflation this 2023, a lot of big names including Tucker Carson become a Bitcoiner. We are going to be seeing a much higher BTC than expected. If you expect BTC to be just $100K, you might just scramble to buy back to chase the profit when it rallies higher.

This is the usual thing that some of the investors do in the bull market. Price may drop back to $60k again after touching $100k and then bounce back up again to $128K so you'll never know how much you missed when you sell too early/.

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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

You will never know the peak of the market, and there are only a few investors that are going to get lucky that might predict the peak price of the market, We can't really predict the movement of the market even with the analysis thing, because they're just too many factors that affect the market price of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. The market price depends on supply and demand so it doesn't really have some kind of basis or it isn't guarantee that you are always going to make a good amount of profit on it.

The best time to sell is if it is a fair price already, just based on buy low and sell on high, You always going to make a profit, and it just depends on you when you going to sell or how high can you risk your money you can't predict the peak but at least try to make a good profit on it, Just based on the timeline and structure of bitcoin it would surely skyrocket its market price because of its low supply of only 21 million so if nothing bad happened it might just continue to increase its market price and we could make a good profit in the future the longer we HODL our investments.


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September 15, 2023, 07:22:20 PM
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The timing of selling has a relation with profit therefore if a person can attain maximum amount of money then thoughts about previous and coming  Bull and bear market is not a concern.

Everyone plans differently some plans to get the chance by waiting for longer time while those of the other investor will fix the amount for profit and as the market reach to that value they will immediately make a profit by selling their coin.

The market is so unpredictable that one will choose profit instead of waiting for more increase but in one case they can wait like that of waiting for halving.
One of the goals of investment is to get a return, so if the investor sees that he deserves a profit then he can sell it even if it is not at ATH. I know that many people hope to sell their bitcoins or investments at ATH to gain maximum profits, but I cannot deny that someone who is able to take advantage of market volatility will likely make much greater profits than selling at ATH.

This approach may be thought of by some people and has been put into practice, meaning they can accumulate bitcoin by taking advantage of volatility periodically without buying with additional budget. I tend not to, but such an approach seems good for accumulating bitcoins especially if they understand the market well.

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September 15, 2023, 07:31:40 PM
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Generally good time to sell is when raising profit but depend on how much percent set up for taking profit, if you invested with Bitcoin since price under $20k I think is good time for selling it right now if you have urgent needed and potential for Bitcoin raise to higher price again if your capital is not urgent have to sell. Don't be greedy with investing in Bitcoin when profit target have reached actually above 10% until 20% and never hold it for seeing Bitcoin will raise to $100k.
Its seems difficult how to get moment with Bitcoin will up to higher price and your moment have earn much profitable with bitcoin its time for selling it. Buy back or investing later when moment bitcoin get crash and always has chance for correction to see Bitcoin in lower price.

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September 15, 2023, 07:33:32 PM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

IMO, the perfect time to sell since nobody knows whether or not we reached the peak during bullrun, it is when bitcoin hits your target. That only if you have set and calculated your profit during the time when you start accumulating bitcoin.
Though seeking for the peak or selling incrementally maybe a good strategy, especially when it exceeded your target, but that will give you enough stress for sure as you will be monitoring the market movement, because bitcoin is so volatile that it would literally drop massively after it peaks. So, chances are you'll miss your target and might probably sell a little below your target.
There's no way on knowing the peak and no man on this world would really be able to know, this is why it would really be that always wise that you should really be that setting those goals or targets for you to secure your
profits on the time that you do see that this might be the peak.Either it would be a hit or miss and since this market is unpredictable then there's no way that you could really be able to know on whats ahead.
This is why it would really be always wise on having that selling point, or else you would really be missing out the current cycle and you would be waiting for another one on which it is something that
we dont really like.

Majority of us are really that impatient when it comes to this but there were people who do hold no matter how many years would be passing as long they do know that they could really be able to benefit out
on what are the actions that they had done.Although, there would really be no assurance as always as this had being the main risks when you do make yourself get involved with investment.
You should really be wise on making decisions because outcome or results would really be entirely basing with those.

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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?
At least to me, when to sell is a combination of factors, I will need to see a big drop on the price of bitcoin after a strong bull run and we will have to be at the last quarter of 2025, which is when historically the bull run weakens and traders begin to sell their holdings, now this is not a foolproof solution but it should allow anyone to sell close enough to the top and obtain good profits during that upward movement, however traders need to be realistic and accept that anyone selling at the very peak of the market simply got lucky, and it is impossible to replicate their results.

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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?
At least to me, when to sell is a combination of factors, I will need to see a big drop on the price of bitcoin after a strong bull run and we will have to be at the last quarter of 2025, which is when historically the bull run weakens and traders begin to sell their holdings, now this is not a foolproof solution but it should allow anyone to sell close enough to the top and obtain good profits during that upward movement, however traders need to be realistic and accept that anyone selling at the very peak of the market simply got lucky, and it is impossible to replicate their results.

During the bull run it's very tricky to sell and if you are not strong enough with your hold you might end up selling at the wrong time because during the bull market all coins tend to push up at a very rapid speed so knowing the actual time sell is very hard well not hard but some just tend to sell very early that they just miss the highest pick point or some wait too long and then sell when the coins have started dropping again.

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September 16, 2023, 12:11:43 AM
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Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?
I have set my goal to sell some part of my bitcoin assets by the second quarter of 2025 that's when I deem fit that the crypto space will be experiencing a bull run by then. Whatever price I see by then, I feel like if I have gotten the profits I desire from Bitcoin investment, nothing stops me from selling some part of my Bitcoin. The rest of the bitcoin not sold will be kept by applying a DCA strategy to it

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The peak is hard to know as long as we are in the bull run, there are times when the price might start dropping bit by bit and you assume that we have reach the peak and now coming down, you jump and sell, and only to return back after a few hours to realized that the rally has continued again and that the previous peak as been surpassed easily, you end up regretting for selling too early .

What I will personally advice is to set a sell target, a realistic one, once that target is reached, you can decide to sell 50 percent of what you plan to sell, then wait and see if the price will continue to go up, if it continues, you can divide the remaining 50 percent into two, and sell 25 percent at a higher price, and also try to sell the remaining 25 percent at a higher price too if the prices continue to grow .

All in all, try as much as possible to be contented with what ever you got and at what price you sold, it is only the lucky ones that manages to sell at the peak .

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After I managed to sell bitcoin for $57k, I haven't decided when I will sell the bitcoin that I bought again at a low price.
Maybe I will start gradually selling the bitcoins once the price goes beyond $90k-$100k but if that can't happen in 2 years, I still have to be patient and keep accumulating more bitcoins.
But we will have a hard time knowing when we have reached the top but I think if the price manages to make a new ATH and it is over $100k, that means we are already at the peak of the bitcoin price high.
Usually, I will sell gradually, starting from the smallest amount first while monitoring the situation and I am also not in a rush to sell the bitcoin.

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I have set my goal to sell some part of my bitcoin assets by the second quarter of 2025 that's when I deem fit that the crypto space will be experiencing a bull run by then. Whatever price I see by then, I feel like if I have gotten the profits I desire from Bitcoin investment, nothing stops me from selling some part of my Bitcoin. The rest of the bitcoin not sold will be kept by applying a DCA strategy to it
That is a clear target for you.
and before reaching the second quarter of 2025 what you can do now is buy Bitcoin gradually to increase your Bitcoin accumulation and of course, there will be more benefits that you can get.

I am targeting Bitcoin for the new ATH in 2024-2025 and $100k is the target price I need to reach to sell some of my Bitcoin holdings.

That's quite realistic with $100k being the target price for most long-term investors today.
Just need to buy and hold and of course be patient.

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September 16, 2023, 05:46:52 AM
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After I managed to sell bitcoin for $57k, I haven't decided when I will sell the bitcoin that I bought again at a low price.
Maybe I will start gradually selling the bitcoins once the price goes beyond $90k-$100k but if that can't happen in 2 years, I still have to be patient and keep accumulating more bitcoins.
But we will have a hard time knowing when we have reached the top but I think if the price manages to make a new ATH and it is over $100k, that means we are already at the peak of the bitcoin price high.
Usually, I will sell gradually, starting from the smallest amount first while monitoring the situation and I am also not in a rush to sell the bitcoin.
Waiting for the price of $90k-$100k I think will take quite a long time, and you have to be patient for that, but regarding whether that will happen or the latest ATH I think a lot of people believe it will happen, even though in a slightly longer period of time.
And indeed the right time for us to sell is when we really see the latest ATH (if we can be patient) or many people have different opinions, sell when we already have or have reached our target.



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September 16, 2023, 09:13:52 AM
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Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?
Before now I had said to myself that immediately bitcoins makes a new all-time high,  that is to say about 70,000 dollars, I will sell. But after going through some posts in the forum, I understood that that was a very long position. Then I have now decided that from all time high I will begin to sell in percentage. Maybe 30% and I will now sell 20% another 20%. I will decide on this as time approaches, but I know that whenever we are on new all-time high, we are already on a big profit.

Some people are expecting a hundred thousand dollars. Surely it is possible, but we should remember that it failed the last time but I have also seen a projection that bitcoin is going to $173k. This is very high expectation. I think it is a ploy make the market crash on people.

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We cannot know for sure that we have peaked but we can adjust our entry and exit times in line with certain paradigms. If you are new to the market, you can support your investment just by looking at halving years. The golden rule is to be patient and not get carried away. If you need to get rich quick, this is not for you. The trend is never just up or down. Therefore, knowing when to buy can help you plan when to sell.

The first step is to know what you want and have a clear strategy. For example, buying a car, paying off debts, etc. To determine when it's time to sell a cryptocurrency you've bought, we first need to follow the rise of the cryptocurrency, and if you've reached two or three times the price of your purchase, you can consider selling all or part of your asset. Selling gradually should always be at the forefront. Because whether you're selling at a loss or at a profit, you'll always have a chance to take a step towards the next move. When investing in a new cryptocurrency, you may be tempted to sell because the project has lost its purpose, is not making progress or innovations. In this case, you should aim to reduce your losses by trying to sell at a reasonable price.
Reaching the goal of "retirement" is the end goal for me, it allows me to know that I will never have to work for money again. That is not same as being rich, because you do not become rich with the amount I am planning to retire with, it's a much smaller amount than most peoples houses worth here, and it still enough for me to retire.

That doesn't mean I will quit working, maybe I will work a little less, but I wouldn't know what to do with myself if I didn't work, which means that I will work as a hobby basically, but my goal for my investments would be reaching to a level where I have financial freedom to never worry about money again, and that type of thing is a lot more important and would make me happy.
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September 16, 2023, 07:21:25 PM
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Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?
I have set my goal to sell some part of my bitcoin assets by the second quarter of 2025 that's when I deem fit that the crypto space will be experiencing a bull run by then. Whatever price I see by then, I feel like if I have gotten the profits I desire from Bitcoin investment, nothing stops me from selling some part of my Bitcoin. The rest of the bitcoin not sold will be kept by applying a DCA strategy to it

There will be a bull run for sure, but the bear market following that bull can be different from all the historical ones. There will be the world's biggest institution onboard, so we may not see that 45% fall over night like most of the bear market. There will be corrections, but not like before. Those big institutions will try to keep the market stable so that they won't lose their customer funds. I can be totally wrong, but I think something like this will happen. There won't be the kind of bear market we are facing now. It will be more like a sideways move and slow market growth after a certain point. This is just a prediction.

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No one knows what Bitcoin's next ATH will be, so if someone wants to sell, they have to guess and figure out a selling price. Because here everyone wants profit so if a certain amount of profit can satisfy someone then it is their own strategy. Bitcoin is a life changer, Bitcoin can change an investor's life as we have seen in past bull markets. So the most important thing here for me is that I haven't set any target yet, so I think about taking decisions based on market conditions.

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September 16, 2023, 08:48:37 PM
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No one knows what Bitcoin's next ATH will be, so if someone wants to sell, they have to guess and figure out a selling price. Because here everyone wants profit so if a certain amount of profit can satisfy someone then it is their own strategy. Bitcoin is a life changer, Bitcoin can change an investor's life as we have seen in past bull markets. So the most important thing here for me is that I haven't set any target yet, so I think about taking decisions based on market conditions.
You don’t need to make a guess before you sell, all you have to do is to set-up your target price and make sure that you are happy with the profit because you cannot chase the market always and you have to sell in order to satisfy yourself. Buying and selling is easy, and it will always depend on your choice and contentment, if you are happy with a 20% profit then so be it, don’t aim for a high one because it might not happen.

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September 16, 2023, 09:40:17 PM
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No one knows what Bitcoin's next ATH will be, so if someone wants to sell, they have to guess and figure out a selling price. Because here everyone wants profit so if a certain amount of profit can satisfy someone then it is their own strategy. Bitcoin is a life changer, Bitcoin can change an investor's life as we have seen in past bull markets. So the most important thing here for me is that I haven't set any target yet, so I think about taking decisions based on market conditions.
Even the expert doesn't know well about the ath. The crypto market used to behave in a different way from the traditional market. With the stock market, the predictions used to be precise from the analysts. With cryptomarket the predictions from the analysts used to be coincidence and doesn't look like perfect one. With bitcoin it is good to go along with the market, so that it'll be easy to take decisions. However our minds should be prepared enough not to think once we've sold it, because the next day after we sell it could've bounced big.

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Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?
I have set my goal to sell some part of my bitcoin assets by the second quarter of 2025 that's when I deem fit that the crypto space will be experiencing a bull run by then. Whatever price I see by then, I feel like if I have gotten the profits I desire from Bitcoin investment, nothing stops me from selling some part of my Bitcoin. The rest of the bitcoin not sold will be kept by applying a DCA strategy to it

There will be a bull run for sure, but the bear market following that bull can be different from all the historical ones. There will be the world's biggest institution onboard, so we may not see that 45% fall over night like most of the bear market. There will be corrections, but not like before. Those big institutions will try to keep the market stable so that they won't lose their customer funds. I can be totally wrong, but I think something like this will happen. There won't be the kind of bear market we are facing now. It will be more like a sideways move and slow market growth after a certain point. This is just a prediction.
There's no way on knowing on what would be the bull run looks like on this upcoming bull run when halving happens because this is where usually it do starts to kick on. No one could ever tell on how it

would looks like but definitely there would really be a bull run.We cant really be just having a market without having a bull run and just remaining to be bearish? thats not how a normal market behaves or works and this is why it would really be just that normal that it is really that wise on taking up the opportunity on accumulating while the prices are still cheap or something that could really be able to take chances on getting those in bargain because once the market would really be having that u-turn then you would definitely be ending up on having regrets on what you had missed.

Just dont make yourself do say that common line "how i wish i do able to buy more when its still cheap" kind of tag which people do mostly be saying on the time that
we are breaking new all time highs which it isnt limited only on Bitcoin but also in other altcoins as well.

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BTC used to more bound to its own economy when it still involved many home miners and a fairly small scale digital economy.  Basically gambling and other small sites using BTC, but since then its come away from that isolated market flow and mining BTC personally is not half as common since it went over to ASIC.
  Having said that, the main markets are not especially negative or challenged.  We'd be booming in BTC imo if only the dollar index were to lose 100 on the dxy but it failed to beat that level, the higher rates are having some effect in retaining that level .   I think its temporary and we do find easier progress.

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September 17, 2023, 04:59:30 AM
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No one knows what Bitcoin's next ATH will be, so if someone wants to sell, they have to guess and figure out a selling price. Because here everyone wants profit so if a certain amount of profit can satisfy someone then it is their own strategy. Bitcoin is a life changer, Bitcoin can change an investor's life as we have seen in past bull markets. So the most important thing here for me is that I haven't set any target yet, so I think about taking decisions based on market conditions.
You don’t need to make a guess before you sell, all you have to do is to set-up your target price and make sure that you are happy with the profit because you cannot chase the market always and you have to sell in order to satisfy yourself. Buying and selling is easy, and it will always depend on your choice and contentment, if you are happy with a 20% profit then so be it, don’t aim for a high one because it might not happen.
Guessing before selling may be an option for those who want to keep it or sell it, this can be profitable or vice versa. I really agree with what you said if we have set a profit target then we are better off selling it because with the market conditions moving very fast then if we don't sell it there is a possibility that we will miss the opportunity to take profit and make us have to wait for it if we don't want to make a little profit.
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Waiting for the price of $90k-$100k I think will take quite a long time, and you have to be patient for that, but regarding whether that will happen or the latest ATH I think a lot of people believe it will happen, even though in a slightly longer period of time.
And indeed the right time for us to sell is when we really see the latest ATH (if we can be patient) or many people have different opinions, sell when we already have or have reached our target.
If the selling price is what we want, we really have to be patient until the price reaches our target selling price.
And even though that means we have to wait quite a long time, that's okay because while we wait, we can accumulate more bitcoins to increase the number of bitcoins.
The price of bitcoin will rise in the future, although there is no certainty when that will happen, so we have to be more patient in waiting for it.
When the Bitcoin price reaches the target selling price, immediately sell it, even if not all of it, because we don't know if the price can stay at that price or will immediately decline due to a correction.
So use the time to sell at the price we want.

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The problem with us humans is that we like to copy what others are doing, you here someone doing the DCA strategy we want to jump on it, we watching several whale wallets and the second coins move we also think that's the signal to sell...

Tbh if we want to survive the crypto markets,  we need to find what works for us and for me I believe if you bought or caught a low you should sell at a premium when everyone is talking about the bull run, better yet use technical analysis to determine when to buy and when to sell and this way you get better ROI than waiting for an ATH or something.

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The problem with us humans is that we like to copy what others are doing, you here someone doing the DCA strategy we want to jump on it, we watching several whale wallets and the second coins move we also think that's the signal to sell...

Tbh if we want to survive the crypto markets,  we need to find what works for us and for me I believe if you bought or caught a low you should sell at a premium when everyone is talking about the bull run, better yet use technical analysis to determine when to buy and when to sell and this way you get better ROI than waiting for an ATH or something.

What strategy works for other may or may not works for me. That's why its best to create your own strategy and that can created only after you spend time and effort exploring the crypto market.

What I have learned from my experience is that there is no way we can predict the future price of bitcoin. Accumulate Bitcoin when you think its best and don't hesitate in selling whenever you are getting adequate profit. TA/FA are good things to follow but also fail very often in volatile crypto market.
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The problem with us humans is that we like to copy what others are doing, you here someone doing the DCA strategy we want to jump on it, we watching several whale wallets and the second coins move we also think that's the signal to sell...

Tbh if we want to survive the crypto markets,  we need to find what works for us and for me I believe if you bought or caught a low you should sell at a premium when everyone is talking about the bull run, better yet use technical analysis to determine when to buy and when to sell and this way you get better ROI than waiting for an ATH or something.

What strategy works for other may or may not works for me. That's why its best to create your own strategy and that can created only after you spend time and effort exploring the crypto market.

What I have learned from my experience is that there is no way we can predict the future price of bitcoin. Accumulate Bitcoin when you think its best and don't hesitate in selling whenever you are getting adequate profit. TA/FA are good things to follow but also fail very often in volatile crypto market.

I don't even believe in technical analysis, I'm not saying they're useless but they really don't work well in this volatile market.

@Woodie, if you believe that relying on technical analysis will help you find the right time to buy and sell bitcoin, do you analyze $15k as the bottom of bitcoin and you bought it last year? Because when bitcoin went down to $15k, I saw a lot of people screaming that it was going to go down to $12k and that was the bottom where they would start buying. But those people ended up buying bitcoin at a higher price, while those who implemented the DCA strategy bought bitcoin at $15k.

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September 17, 2023, 09:09:09 AM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

I have already made a decision to sell when bitcoin gets to $150k in the next bull market and from what I have understand from other bull market, the price of Bitcoin gets to the highest price before the year ends and it'll be after halving therefore if $150k can be reached any month in 2025 which is when I expect the bull market to be in it's peak then I'll sell all my bitcoin and hold cash while I wait for the next bear market to come before I can buy through DCA again.

What I'm doing now is accumulating through DCA and I don't mind the condition of the market. I have tired holding before through the bear market but I'm not at peace so to avoid having same experience in the next bear market, I'll sell and be buying during the bear market.

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I have set my goal to sell some part of my bitcoin assets by the second quarter of 2025 that's when I deem fit that the crypto space will be experiencing a bull run by then. Whatever price I see by then, I feel like if I have gotten the profits I desire from Bitcoin investment, nothing stops me from selling some part of my Bitcoin. The rest of the bitcoin not sold will be kept by applying a DCA strategy to it

From history, Bitcoin is known to have two seasons or market types: the bear market and the bull market. During the bull market, most people sell and take profits, while in the bear market, a lot of investors, both old and new, usually buy and hold. Your assumptions might be right that Bitcoin will become bullish during the second quarter of 2025, but it might not also be in that second quarter. Even if it doesn't become bullish by then, you just need to hold your asset until the bull market finally comes. Even if you sell a fraction of your Bitcoin, you don't need to sell a lot because the bull market usually comes so gradually before it really shoots up, and if you are so quick to sell during the early phase of the bear market, you will only make less profit compared to if the market were so bullish like it was in the last ATH.

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September 17, 2023, 02:07:21 PM
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I have set my goal to sell some part of my bitcoin assets by the second quarter of 2025 that's when I deem fit that the crypto space will be experiencing a bull run by then. Whatever price I see by then, I feel like if I have gotten the profits I desire from Bitcoin investment, nothing stops me from selling some part of my Bitcoin. The rest of the bitcoin not sold will be kept by applying a DCA strategy to it

From history, Bitcoin is known to have two seasons or market types: the bear market and the bull market. During the bull market, most people sell and take profits, while in the bear market, a lot of investors, both old and new, usually buy and hold. Your assumptions might be right that Bitcoin will become bullish during the second quarter of 2025, but it might not also be in that second quarter. Even if it doesn't become bullish by then, you just need to hold your asset until the bull market finally comes. Even if you sell a fraction of your Bitcoin, you don't need to sell a lot because the bull market usually comes so gradually before it really shoots up, and if you are so quick to sell during the early phase of the bear market, you will only make less profit compared to if the market were so bullish like it was in the last ATH.

Well these two market cycles will continue to repeat and I will quote a little conclusion that only those who can HOLD longer until reaching the last ATH can get maximum or even significant profits. Well that might happen in the second quarter of 2025 but it is also very possible not to happen because it is very difficult to be able to ascertain what will happen in a certain period on bitcoin itself. Well that's true even if things don't go according to our initial prediction of when the bullish highs will occur, I think there is nothing wrong with you waiting a little longer, I'm sure you want to make a big profit rather than selling all your bitcoins too early at a price that is just starting to rise (just starting and not too significant).

Yes that's right, as you said it's better to be a little patient. On the other hand nothing forces them to sell too early except fear, and for that yes maybe it will come back to their decision, but still I would suggest that if you are very confident in the bull market phase then you can continue to hold it until the time comes and make significant profits there.

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September 17, 2023, 02:12:55 PM
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There is truly no right answer here. I have seen costs are lower promptly in the first date of the month and the prices is always begin to fluctuate. Nobody really know the best time for selling your crypto assets. Just you chooses and gets ready for the unusual outcomes in the process of making a transaction
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September 17, 2023, 02:49:08 PM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

I have already made a decision to sell when bitcoin gets to $150k in the next bull market and from what I have understand from other bull market, the price of Bitcoin gets to the highest price before the year ends and it'll be after halving therefore if $150k can be reached any month in 2025 which is when I expect the bull market to be in it's peak then I'll sell all my bitcoin and hold cash while I wait for the next bear market to come before I can buy through DCA again.

What I'm doing now is accumulating through DCA and I don't mind the condition of the market. I have tired holding before through the bear market but I'm not at peace so to avoid having same experience in the next bear market, I'll sell and be buying during the bear market.
You have a good strategy. It is really better to buy coins now, because in a few years there might be a new bull run. But I'm not sure it will be 150k. Usually after halving the price always started to rise, but no one knows to what marks it can happen. With each cycle the increase becomes less and it is possible that next time the price will not increase much.

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The problem with us humans is that we like to copy what others are doing, you here someone doing the DCA strategy we want to jump on it, we watching several whale wallets and the second coins move we also think that's the signal to sell...

Tbh if we want to survive the crypto markets,  we need to find what works for us and for me I believe if you bought or caught a low you should sell at a premium when everyone is talking about the bull run, better yet use technical analysis to determine when to buy and when to sell and this way you get better ROI than waiting for an ATH or something.

What strategy works for other may or may not works for me. That's why its best to create your own strategy and that can created only after you spend time and effort exploring the crypto market.

What I have learned from my experience is that there is no way we can predict the future price of bitcoin. Accumulate Bitcoin when you think its best and don't hesitate in selling whenever you are getting adequate profit. TA/FA are good things to follow but also fail very often in volatile crypto market.
Everyone has a different way of doing something whatever they do, you are right it could be the way that people do and it works and we cannot use this method for ourselves personally because everyone has different luck. Choosing to continue learning from people who are experts in this field and have this experience will make us better understand when is the right time to buy or sell it and we must set targets that we want to achieve so that we stick to the targets we have set.

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September 17, 2023, 03:49:46 PM
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I have a selling strategy with all my investments and it really centres around retirement. It’s with all the other stuff and it’s solely to be used as income until other age restricted things come into play.

Assuming we stay in the cyclical nature of btc will do a little bit of selling in 2029, to hit a certain fiat target. Then every 4 yrs in the “usual” ath year will sell a bit more.

I’m kinda lucky I have an established investment portfolio, if things play out the way I expect Btc will enable me to  live a bit larger when I retire ( well before actual retirement age in my country ).
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September 17, 2023, 04:15:04 PM
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How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?
There is never a specific time to make sales. It’s not like the market has a point where it just pause or holds. Recall. The ATH of 2016 has been long beaten by that of 2020 and the ATH of 2020 isn’t where we are expecting the next bullrun to maintain. That’s to say, even the ATH that might be resulted as a result of the expected bullrun of 2024/5 should it play out as we hope, it’s not going to be hooked up at $69k. A range just above that would be the place to hope for and even at that, we could possibly have yet another come next bullrun and the bullrun of 2024/5 would not serve.
This promotes the idea that there isn’t a specific time to sell.

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Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?
The most sensible thing to do is sell when the need arises and make sure your in profit. If I weee to take a page out of what your projecting, it would be well when it starts to dump as, you can’t confidently speculate on the peak but, don’t get to exhaust your portfolio.

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September 17, 2023, 04:48:09 PM
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Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?
I have set my goal to sell some part of my bitcoin assets by the second quarter of 2025 that's when I deem fit that the crypto space will be experiencing a bull run by then. Whatever price I see by then, I feel like if I have gotten the profits I desire from Bitcoin investment, nothing stops me from selling some part of my Bitcoin. The rest of the bitcoin not sold will be kept by applying a DCA strategy to it
It's all about reaching your financial goals and desires and the approach you are talking about is exactly what everyone should practice so that they don't miss an opportunity. If I have bought Bitcoins worth $500 when it was priced at $25k and when I see I'm getting $1.5k for my Bitcoins, I will probably sell 50% of it so that I get my initial capital and some profits on top of that, and I will hold the remaining balance to see if the price goes up more or not.

If I see the market is declining, I will probably sell the remaining Bitcoins as well so that I don't get my profits cut down, but if the market keeps going up, I will also sell them in portions as you said so that I keep getting more profits as the market moves forward, that's how it should be for everyone.
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September 17, 2023, 05:39:52 PM
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No one knows what Bitcoin's next ATH will be, so if someone wants to sell, they have to guess and figure out a selling price. Because here everyone wants profit so if a certain amount of profit can satisfy someone then it is their own strategy. Bitcoin is a life changer, Bitcoin can change an investor's life as we have seen in past bull markets. So the most important thing here for me is that I haven't set any target yet, so I think about taking decisions based on market conditions.
You don’t need to make a guess before you sell, all you have to do is to set-up your target price and make sure that you are happy with the profit because you cannot chase the market always and you have to sell in order to satisfy yourself. Buying and selling is easy, and it will always depend on your choice and contentment, if you are happy with a 20% profit then so be it, don’t aim for a high one because it might not happen.
When a bull market starts, an emotion works in everyone to book more profits, and this is where many traders cannot control their emotions. As I said before I think about making decisions based on market conditions. Everyone has a different strategy now it depends on the person how to use his strategy. Bitcoin's next ATH cannot be predicted right now so setting any target now is not a good decision. But yes, any amount of profit is satisfying for those who consider profit as the main thing, then he can sell his bitcoins to any target if that trade is in profit.

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September 17, 2023, 06:54:32 PM
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No one can know what is the lowest low of this bear season and no one knows what is the highest peak of bitcoin in the upcoming bull season. Therefore, selling according to the goals you have set is the best thing. I have also set a target for my investment and I will only sell when bitcoin reaches that target, and $100k and $150k are my goals. I will sell half when bitcoin reaches 100k$ and the rest will only sell when it reaches 150k$. But if in case bitcoin cannot reach that level, I will continue to hold bitcoin until another bull season comes. I have enough time to play long term with bitcoin Wink.
I think we already have the lowest low last year. This year seems a recovery of the bear so I don't think we can experience a hard dump. As for the highest peak, they say it was $100k. After that, it may take a long time again for us to experience a new all-time high. Each of us has their own goals and it's not always when there is a new All-Time-High.

Sometimes we might also need a money so we can sell earlier than our expected time. I think it's okay to sell all because we can still buy when the price dips again, and doing so can only maximize the profits that we can get. Investing is not time-taxing so it's no surprise if you can say that you have lot's of time doing it.

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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

It is almost impossible for us to accurately predict the peak price of Bitcoin this year, even in previous years this has always been the case. Therefore, I support the opinion of some people who say that the peak in Bitcoin prices is just speculation (market sentiment and politics are quite influential) and is more personal. However, the thing that continues to be used as a benchmark by Bitcoin observers is the halving, usually before the halving the Bitcoin price will increase drastically (we can also use this benchmark as a consideration to sell)



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September 18, 2023, 03:08:12 AM
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The right time to sell is of course very difficult to predict because we won't know until the BTC price rises, so in selling I will use the DCA system and gradually, and I think using the DCA system is a good way to do it. sell BTC because if you don't use the DCA system I'm afraid all BTC won't be sold. and I also in selling will look at the market situation and news.
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Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up?

Once I discovered that the price has changed from bearish to bullish season, it show that the market is looking good for me to get something good from my investment by releasing my crypto to the market. We have been experiencing a long bearish market in the community, and many traders are waiting for the green light to be constant in the market for the price of Bitcoin to hit back $50,000 because that is the target of many traders before they can start trading their Bitcoin to prepare ahead for another bearish to come. If you trade your coins in this bearish season, it will not help you to enjoy massive income from your investment because bearish season is still on ground for traders to exercise patience for bullish season to appear.

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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

The current phenomenon is that the BTC price position is still sideways. Investors may become too optimistic when there is an increase or panic when the price falls, resulting in impulsive decisions. Well, regarding Market Timing I think it is not easy and a bit very difficult and if you notice even experienced investors have difficulty predicting price peaks accurately so and if one makes a wrong move it leads to missed opportunities or premature selling.

Personally, now is not the time to sell and HODL is better because the long-term potential of BTC investment is very large and those who try to play short are in vain in the end.

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After the price reaches $80k, there will be another correction if the price is unable to break through the higher price. And that has happened often. We just have to observe how the Bitcoin price moves.

If the market is dominated by retail and primarily driven by psychological factors (i.e. investors' mood) then yeah, we might see a correction (if not crash) if the price fails to go significantly above the old ath.
But if institutional investors enter the game via ETFs, that could be a game changer and we could see a more panic-resistant market.

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I don't if I have responded In this thread before, but it's obvious that a good investors knows when to sell and when not sell it coin, because during investment of any you will have a budget and also a target so that when the market skyrocket to bullrun then you will know the exact time to sell, but when you don't have the exact time to sell that means you doesn't have a target of selling your bitcoin as well, because what deceived some people is they think that bitcoin price will be going up, secondly greediness is another thing that makes some people not sell their coin.

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I don't if I have responded In this thread before, but it's obvious that a good investors knows when to sell and when not sell it coin, because during investment of any you will have a budget and also a target so that when the market skyrocket to bullrun then you will know the exact time to sell, but when you don't have the exact time to sell that means you doesn't have a target of selling your bitcoin as well, because what deceived some people is they think that bitcoin price will be going up, secondly greediness is another thing that makes some people not sell their coin.

I agree, a good investors always have a target selling price.  He will not just invest and just go with the flow.  Good investors knows the basic of investing and trading like the idea of  buy low, sell high, and they also study the movement of the market of their investment.  So they project a reasonable target selling price and not just any unrealistic price speculations.  Wise investors make use of the time very well and always want to repeat the profit they made.  So they tend to invest during the bear market and sell at the bull market.  Then re-enter the market when the market situation goes back to being bearish.

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I don't if I have responded In this thread before, but it's obvious that a good investors knows when to sell and when not sell it coin, because during investment of any you will have a budget and also a target so that when the market skyrocket to bullrun then you will know the exact time to sell, but when you don't have the exact time to sell that means you doesn't have a target of selling your bitcoin as well, because what deceived some people is they think that bitcoin price will be going up, secondly greediness is another thing that makes some people not sell their coin.

I agree, a good investors always have a target selling price.  He will not just invest and just go with the flow.  Good investors knows the basic of investing and trading like the idea of  buy low, sell high, and they also study the movement of the market of their investment.  So they project a reasonable target selling price and not just any unrealistic price speculations.  Wise investors make use of the time very well and always want to repeat the profit they made.  So they tend to invest during the bear market and sell at the bull market.  Then re-enter the market when the market situation goes back to being bearish.
Actually your right because their is no investors that will invest that doesn't scrutinised the market, as we investors you most target when the market is low and when the market is higher, so therefore what us to understand is the going to invest you most have a plan and that plan most be something you have observed very well before doing anything. So selling low when you purchased at higher rate is  a total loss to the person, that is while every investors is targeting high.

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Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?
I have set my goal to sell some part of my bitcoin assets by the second quarter of 2025 that's when I deem fit that the crypto space will be experiencing a bull run by then. Whatever price I see by then, I feel like if I have gotten the profits I desire from Bitcoin investment, nothing stops me from selling some part of my Bitcoin. The rest of the bitcoin not sold will be kept by applying a DCA strategy to it
It's all about reaching your financial goals and desires and the approach you are talking about is exactly what everyone should practice so that they don't miss an opportunity. If I have bought Bitcoins worth $500 when it was priced at $25k and when I see I'm getting $1.5k for my Bitcoins, I will probably sell 50% of it so that I get my initial capital and some profits on top of that, and I will hold the remaining balance to see if the price goes up more or not.

If I see the market is declining, I will probably sell the remaining Bitcoins as well so that I don't get my profits cut down, but if the market keeps going up, I will also sell them in portions as you said so that I keep getting more profits as the market moves forward, that's how it should be for everyone.
When a goal is established, a plan is created to gradually bring it about. It may take some time to complete, but if you are completely focused and make the appropriate strategies, you may realize that you have already completed some of your goals.
I'm glad to see that you are aware of bitcoin's volatility and are taking appropriate action to profit when the market moves in an upward and downward direction. Maintain it as you acquire and sell bitcoins to generate profits for yourself

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The right time to sell is of course very difficult to predict because we won't know until the BTC price rises, so in selling I will use the DCA system and gradually, and I think using the DCA system is a good way to do it. sell BTC because if you don't use the DCA system I'm afraid all BTC won't be sold. and I also in selling will look at the market situation and news.

Right now we should not think of selling.
This is the time of buying bitcoin as bitcoin is well under its price of the all time high. This is why people need the knowledge when they come in financial markets to either trade or invest in bitcoin.

For me, I will plan and think to sell when we reach all time high again or make new highs. Believe me, if you buy bitcoin at around 26-27k and sell it at 30k, you might be happy making a few hundred dollars but you will miss the big moves as the bull market first phase is very near now.

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Right now we should not think of selling.
This is the time of buying bitcoin as bitcoin is well under its price of the all time high. This is why people need the knowledge when they come in financial markets to either trade or invest in bitcoin.

For me, I will plan and think to sell when we reach all time high again or make new highs. Believe me, if you buy bitcoin at around 26-27k and sell it at 30k, you might be happy making a few hundred dollars but you will miss the big moves as the bull market first phase is very near now.
Current market condition still drop I think right with your opinion right now is not worth time for selling cryptocurrency assets but moment for us buy back and as much possibility accumulate with potential altcoin. Don't forget with investing in Bitcoin because price still drop under $27,000 and yesterday success wake up drastically from $25k to be $27k. I have long term planning during Bitcoin price under $30k can't stopping for re investing as much possible depend with my financial condition, its become my saving with bitcoin than spent or hold my money in the bank without get increasing up forever than how much profitable earn trough investment in Bitcoin.

For awhile is not moment to sell our investment assets and keep hold it until Bitcoin and altcoin back to the top price when halving time are closing forward.

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The right time to sell bitcoin, bitcoin holders must have their own target at what price we sell at when the bull market arrives, many influences in various countries predict $100k is the same as $150K, we don't know for sure whether what we are selling will reach its peak or No . It is difficult to predict the selling price at the peak price, the price we sell is the highest price we predict, if it exceeds the price we predicted, that's it, that is our best price to make a profit.

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Right now we should not think of selling.
This is the time of buying bitcoin as bitcoin is well under its price of the all time high. This is why people need the knowledge when they come in financial markets to either trade or invest in bitcoin.

For me, I will plan and think to sell when we reach all time high again or make new highs. Believe me, if you buy bitcoin at around 26-27k and sell it at 30k, you might be happy making a few hundred dollars but you will miss the big moves as the bull market first phase is very near now.
Current market condition still drop I think right with your opinion right now is not worth time for selling cryptocurrency assets but moment for us buy back and as much possibility accumulate with potential altcoin. Don't forget with investing in Bitcoin because price still drop under $27,000 and yesterday success wake up drastically from $25k to be $27k. I have long term planning during Bitcoin price under $30k can't stopping for re investing as much possible depend with my financial condition, its become my saving with bitcoin than spent or hold my money in the bank without get increasing up forever than how much profitable earn trough investment in Bitcoin.

For awhile is not moment to sell our investment assets and keep hold it until Bitcoin and altcoin back to the top price when halving time are closing forward.

Well that's right, now bitcoin is still in the $27k price range, and this is the starting point of the price journey to go up after a correction at $25k yesterday which indicates that the trend will go back up, and as a reference point the price of $25k is the current low point that has touched the support area that occurred in the past few months. So it's true as you say, now is not the time to sell but now is the right time to increase the amount of your bitcoin, I think there may be some who got it at $25k yesterday when it was correcting and now they have got a few percent profit after finally bitcoin is right according to their predictions, which now just rose to the price of $27k.

Well I agree with you, you have done the right action by buying more bitcoin in conditions like this, in the way that you do this you indirectly like giving advice to others that use the money you can invest, and I say that you allocate money that will not be disturbed for other needs, because obviously it will greatly help you in doing HOLD longer until your target is reached. Obviously I think some people also think that bitcoin is a good place for you to keep your money instead of keeping it in some bank with an interest rate that might hurt you.

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September 19, 2023, 07:07:14 PM
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Right now we should not think of selling.
This is the time of buying bitcoin as bitcoin is well under its price of the all time high. This is why people need the knowledge when they come in financial markets to either trade or invest in bitcoin.

For me, I will plan and think to sell when we reach all time high again or make new highs. Believe me, if you buy bitcoin at around 26-27k and sell it at 30k, you might be happy making a few hundred dollars but you will miss the big moves as the bull market first phase is very near now.
What exists is accumulation not selling. For now never think but what about more bitcoins.
Sometimes there are people who waste this opportunity and they are even willing to wait for the price of $20K I think it's a little excessive and don't know why not take advantage of the market situation in the $25K and $27K area, well they have their own judgment.

Even if the price passes the previous ATH price of $69K then I will try to hold it, this is a little further from the original plan that $100K might happen, but still whoever buys now and waits at least at the price of $69K he has made a decent profit, but it will be bigger to wait a little patiently for the next phase.

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The right time to sell bitcoin, bitcoin holders must have their own target at what price we sell at when the bull market arrives, many influences in various countries predict $100k is the same as $150K, we don't know for sure whether what we are selling will reach its peak or No . It is difficult to predict the selling price at the peak price, the price we sell is the highest price we predict, if it exceeds the price we predicted, that's it, that is our best price to make a profit.
Bitcoin doesn't have right time to sell and right time buy, but many people who is novice in bitcoin think that bitcoin have a specific price and time you can buy bitcoin, if you want to invest in bitcoin for long periods don't reason the particular amount is bitcoin at that point before buying bitcoin, what I encourage people concerning buying and selling of bitcoin is that we should have your target and when you have your target no matter what happens in tye matter in cryptocurrency you will be a beneficiary, what matters in cryptocurrency investment especially bitcoin is that you must have a durable time you will sell your bitcoin

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September 19, 2023, 11:13:24 PM
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The right time to sell bitcoin, bitcoin holders must have their own target at what price we sell at when the bull market arrives, many influences in various countries predict $100k is the same as $150K, we don't know for sure whether what we are selling will reach its peak or No . It is difficult to predict the selling price at the peak price, the price we sell is the highest price we predict, if it exceeds the price we predicted, that's it, that is our best price to make a profit.
Bitcoin doesn't have right time to sell and right time buy, but many people who is novice in bitcoin think that bitcoin have a specific price and time you can buy bitcoin, if you want to invest in bitcoin for long periods don't reason the particular amount is bitcoin at that point before buying bitcoin, what I encourage people concerning buying and selling of bitcoin is that we should have your target and when you have your target no matter what happens in tye matter in cryptocurrency you will be a beneficiary, what matters in cryptocurrency investment especially bitcoin is that you must have a durable time you will sell your bitcoin
What you said here is somehow contradicting. If Bitcoin doesn't have the right time to sell and the right time to buy there's no point in setting a durable time to sell.
Having said that, I think what created this misunderstanding is just what people said "opportunity comes but once" We know that's not true because opportunities come every day but only those that you have missed or benefit from are the opportunities that come once. The same thing applies to the cryptocurrency market, the time you invest or sell that seems good to you is your own right time but it may not be someone else right time.

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September 19, 2023, 11:44:28 PM
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All the best assets I've observed or been involved in some way, it was quite valid to buy regularly along the way as it became more highly priced and valued by the rest of the market.  Just finding the lowest price and only buying there is a mirage, its very unlikely and excludes this real worth to consistency in gains over the long term.  
  BTC is a surprisingly long term momentum asset.  We are worried about each week or month when even just picking the right year to buy or sell would be close enough alot of the time to do well.   So lets quickly consider, 2022 was a year price did descend with some gradient.   A year BTC could be sold, is the year after that loss also likely to be a good time to sell going on this very macro view.   It would seem BTC is not as likely to lose so much 2 years in a row, it already compressed that amount of action into that last year.   Possibly you dont want to buy but OP asked about selling, its appearing wrong or hard to justify this stance from the very beginning without zooming in barely at all.

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September 20, 2023, 02:35:26 AM
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 Obviously I think some people also think that bitcoin is a good place for you to keep your money instead of keeping it in some bank with an interest rate that might hurt you.
In my opinion, bitcoin is an asset, a tool for investment, not a place to keep money like a bank. Don't forget that we only invest what we can lose, not that we put all our assets in bitcoin and believe that it will definitely protect our money and bring us huge profits without risk. We should stop comparing depositing money in bitcoin and banks because they are not the same at all. Bitcoin is still just a highly volatile and high-risk asset, it is not yet a safe haven or perfect store of value.

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The right time to sell bitcoin, bitcoin holders must have their own target at what price we sell at when the bull market arrives, many influences in various countries predict $100k is the same as $150K, we don't know for sure whether what we are selling will reach its peak or No . It is difficult to predict the selling price at the peak price, the price we sell is the highest price we predict, if it exceeds the price we predicted, that's it, that is our best price to make a profit.
Bitcoin doesn't have right time to sell and right time buy, but many people who is novice in bitcoin think that bitcoin have a specific price and time you can buy bitcoin, if you want to invest in bitcoin for long periods don't reason the particular amount is bitcoin at that point before buying bitcoin, what I encourage people concerning buying and selling of bitcoin is that we should have your target and when you have your target no matter what happens in tye matter in cryptocurrency you will be a beneficiary, what matters in cryptocurrency investment especially bitcoin is that you must have a durable time you will sell your bitcoin
What you said here is somehow contradicting. If Bitcoin doesn't have the right time to sell and the right time to buy there's no point in setting a durable time to sell.
Having said that, I think what created this misunderstanding is just what people said "opportunity comes but once" We know that's not true because opportunities come every day but only those that you have missed or benefit from are the opportunities that come once. The same thing applies to the cryptocurrency market, the time you invest or sell that seems good to you is your own right time but it may not be someone else right time.

Totally depends on what kind of investor or trader you are whether you would really be going for long term or would be going fort short term.We do know that not all people would really be able to afford on holding for too long when it comes into their positions on which they would really be simply be liking to deal with the price movement in shortest time as possible.This is why it would really be that good that you do set your goals on when you should sell. The most important thing on here is that you do able to accumulate while its still cheap and able to sell out if ever the price do moves up or above that entry point. Gain is gain no matter how small it would be
which this what matter the most. Always set your selling points but if you are going for long term then this is really just that no sense on doing so if you are accumulating for long term holds. Each person would really be
holding and doesnt really like to risks out on dealing with the movement or simply with the volatility but there are really people who are really risks takers on which loving to take advantage with those movements
and wont really be tending to hold for too long before they could be able to see profits.Although it would really be that so risky but its something that would really be worth if you have done it right.
It is really just that not all people would really be able to succeed on this kind of path to take and this is why most of them would rather choose on holding instead.

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September 20, 2023, 07:10:52 AM
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Your question may be simple, but it seems you have a big question mark behind your question, sir.
This selling time has a tentative nature because it is based on whether the market is rising or not, what is certain for me personally to sell bitcoin is when the price reaches $90k+, that answers two of your questions at once, and yes I will sell half of my bitcoin holdings when the price reach the target price that has been determined, the rest I want to wait for the increase to continue to add more profits, and I think this strategy can anticipate losses and regrets when the price of bitcoin continues to rise after making the first sale.
I am well aware that we will never know when is the right time for bitcoin to reach its peak again, even analysts who already have experience in predicting prices, they cannot predict this, but we also need to open our eyes to the potential that will happen to bitcoin Don't do anything stupid.

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September 20, 2023, 11:14:48 AM
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Your question may be simple, but it seems you have a big question mark behind your question, sir.
This selling time has a tentative nature because it is based on whether the market is rising or not, what is certain for me personally to sell bitcoin is when the price reaches $90k+, that answers two of your questions at once, and yes I will sell half of my bitcoin holdings when the price reach the target price that has been determined, the rest I want to wait for the increase to continue to add more profits, and I think this strategy can anticipate losses and regrets when the price of bitcoin continues to rise after making the first sale.
I am well aware that we will never know when is the right time for bitcoin to reach its peak again, even analysts who already have experience in predicting prices, they cannot predict this, but we also need to open our eyes to the potential that will happen to bitcoin Don't do anything stupid.
You are right to say that now is not the best time to sell both bitcoins and altcoins. Considering that the bearish trend has been going on for more than two years now, selling at the bottom is not the best idea. There is a chance that the trend will change soon and it is better to just hold the coins.

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 Obviously I think some people also think that bitcoin is a good place for you to keep your money instead of keeping it in some bank with an interest rate that might hurt you.
In my opinion, bitcoin is an asset, a tool for investment, not a place to keep money like a bank. Don't forget that we only invest what we can lose, not that we put all our assets in bitcoin and believe that it will definitely protect our money and bring us huge profits without risk. We should stop comparing depositing money in bitcoin and banks because they are not the same at all. Bitcoin is still just a highly volatile and high-risk asset, it is not yet a safe haven or perfect store of value.

Well I understand for that, maybe I was not clear enough in describing what I mentioned above so maybe there are some who misunderstood it. Honestly I'm glad you've corrected what I said above, I didn't mean to save money in bitcoin like we save in some banks along with interest every year that will continue to drain the amount, but in detail I said that bitcoin is a good place for you to allocate some of your money with the aim of growing it along with the increase in bitcoin itself. Honestly I am not saying that there is no risk whatsoever in bitcoin, of course both banks and investments have their pluses and minuses, both have their own risks and I think only investments provide a higher chance of increasing the amount we have there than in banks only absolutely will not make our money grow and on the contrary little by little your money will be drained because of some deductions there.

As we know, every time there is profit, there will also be certain risks in it, and as much as possible we should be able to minimize that risk in the best way we have because our goal there is profit. Oh well to be honest I will not force anyone to put everything they have on bitcoin because of course it is very true as you say that we have to allocate money that can be accounted for if it is lost due to losses, and I also previously said the same thing because of course this will greatly affect your defense in doing HOLD, and in addition it is also very true that bitcoin is very volatile and I agree that this still cannot be said to be the safest place with all the risks that are there.

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September 20, 2023, 01:13:18 PM
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Your question may be simple, but it seems you have a big question mark behind your question, sir.
This selling time has a tentative nature because it is based on whether the market is rising or not, what is certain for me personally to sell bitcoin is when the price reaches $90k+, that answers two of your questions at once, and yes I will sell half of my bitcoin holdings when the price reach the target price that has been determined, the rest I want to wait for the increase to continue to add more profits, and I think this strategy can anticipate losses and regrets when the price of bitcoin continues to rise after making the first sale.
I am well aware that we will never know when is the right time for bitcoin to reach its peak again, even analysts who already have experience in predicting prices, they cannot predict this, but we also need to open our eyes to the potential that will happen to bitcoin Don't do anything stupid.
You are right to say that now is not the best time to sell both bitcoins and altcoins. Considering that the bearish trend has been going on for more than two years now, selling at the bottom is not the best idea. There is a chance that the trend will change soon and it is better to just hold the coins.
I didn't say that but in the interpretation it has the same meaning as the other point of view, it should be remembered that we are not involving altcoins here as a means of discussion in the context that the OP gave.
Following your response, the fact that we have been in a bearish phase for a long time until today which can be counted as more than two years, we agree that selling bitcoin at a price in a bearish phase (declining) is certainly a stupid decision, but this depends your personal situation and conditions. If you have a problem between life and death and you have no other money apart from the investment in bitcoin, the step you need to take is to sell the bitcoin you have to support yourself or your family, even if the situation is bearish and you experience a loss ( whenever that time is).

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September 20, 2023, 03:52:43 PM
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You are right to say that now is not the best time to sell both bitcoins and altcoins. Considering that the bearish trend has been going on for more than two years now, selling at the bottom is not the best idea. There is a chance that the trend will change soon and it is better to just hold the coins.
I also think that at the moment, because it would be a shame if Bitcoin and the best altcoins had to be sold at the current price, which still tends to be cheap in my opinion. So I think that keeping it well is the right choice rather than selling now which could cause regret when the bullish trend occurs again in the market. I also believe that changes for the better will soon return to the market with increasing prices in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.
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September 20, 2023, 04:21:51 PM
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Well that might happen in the second quarter of 2025 but it is also very possible not to happen because it is very difficult to be able to ascertain what will happen in a certain period on bitcoin itself. Well that's true even if things don't go according to our initial prediction of when the bullish highs will occur, I think there is nothing wrong with you waiting a little longer, I'm sure you want to make a big profit rather than selling all your bitcoins too early at a price that is just starting to rise (just starting and not too significant).

Well, yeah, like you said, it's very difficult to specifically know the price of Bitcoin in the next bull market. People can only speculate on the price, but that doesn't mean that it's going to be so. And in the aspect of selling one's Bitcoin asset, well, you know that every investor, be it in Bitcoin or other assets, has their own individual goals, which are usually different, so some people can decide to sell so early at any price they feel they are ok with, while others will keep holding for the next and upcoming bull market. For me, I have some goals I want to archive, but the way I planned it, I can only archive them if Bitcoin spikes and gives me a huge profit that can be used to settle them. But again, even if the Bitcoin price spikes today, I definitely will not sell everything at once; it's just to sell a few fractions of my holding.

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September 20, 2023, 07:09:44 PM
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Well that might happen in the second quarter of 2025 but it is also very possible not to happen because it is very difficult to be able to ascertain what will happen in a certain period on bitcoin itself. Well that's true even if things don't go according to our initial prediction of when the bullish highs will occur, I think there is nothing wrong with you waiting a little longer, I'm sure you want to make a big profit rather than selling all your bitcoins too early at a price that is just starting to rise (just starting and not too significant).

Well, yeah, like you said, it's very difficult to specifically know the price of Bitcoin in the next bull market. People can only speculate on the price, but that doesn't mean that it's going to be so. And in the aspect of selling one's Bitcoin asset, well, you know that every investor, be it in Bitcoin or other assets, has their own individual goals, which are usually different, so some people can decide to sell so early at any price they feel they are ok with, while others will keep holding for the next and upcoming bull market. For me, I have some goals I want to archive, but the way I planned it, I can only archive them if Bitcoin spikes and gives me a huge profit that can be used to settle them. But again, even if the Bitcoin price spikes today, I definitely will not sell everything at once; it's just to sell a few fractions of my holding.

Every investor has his own goals. At a price that one person's Bitcoin would never sell, someone else might sell it because they made a profit and reached their goal. I think this is one of the things that makes the market beautiful. If everyone's target was the same price, there would be no point. Such a thing is not possible anyway.

There are many predictions for when the bull will come, but none can know the truth. We must invest and wait in line with our goals. We all set a goal, and for this goal to be achieved, the market must reach the point we want. The aim is to both make a profit and reach the day when Bitcoin receives the value it deserves and is accepted in the world.

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September 20, 2023, 10:42:17 PM
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I don't if I have responded In this thread before, but it's obvious that a good investors knows when to sell and when not sell it coin, because during investment of any you will have a budget and also a target so that when the market skyrocket to bullrun then you will know the exact time to sell, but when you don't have the exact time to sell that means you doesn't have a target of selling your bitcoin as well, because what deceived some people is they think that bitcoin price will be going up, secondly greediness is another thing that makes some people not sell their coin.

That smells a bit like a True Scotsman fallacy.

I don't think any expert traders would actually have a hard-fixed selling price and/or time. They'd probably rely more on various metrics indicating that the market gets overheated, meaning it has reached the peak (or is close to).
Some people say that any profit is a good profit, but I couldn't disagree more.

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September 21, 2023, 12:59:31 PM
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Well that might happen in the second quarter of 2025 but it is also very possible not to happen because it is very difficult to be able to ascertain what will happen in a certain period on bitcoin itself. Well that's true even if things don't go according to our initial prediction of when the bullish highs will occur, I think there is nothing wrong with you waiting a little longer, I'm sure you want to make a big profit rather than selling all your bitcoins too early at a price that is just starting to rise (just starting and not too significant).

Well, yeah, like you said, it's very difficult to specifically know the price of Bitcoin in the next bull market. People can only speculate on the price, but that doesn't mean that it's going to be so. And in the aspect of selling one's Bitcoin asset, well, you know that every investor, be it in Bitcoin or other assets, has their own individual goals, which are usually different, so some people can decide to sell so early at any price they feel they are ok with, while others will keep holding for the next and upcoming bull market. For me, I have some goals I want to archive, but the way I planned it, I can only archive them if Bitcoin spikes and gives me a huge profit that can be used to settle them. But again, even if the Bitcoin price spikes today, I definitely will not sell everything at once; it's just to sell a few fractions of my holding.

But as time goes by it doesn't mean we have to stay silent by just speculating and waiting, I think we should be able to take more advantage of every condition, just like bitcoin which is very volatile there and that means we shouldn't waste any time or opportunity we have to keep learning because bitcoin will continue to grow and we also as investors must be able to keep up with the new things that arise from bitcoin by continuing to learn from various best references according to you. Well on the other hand I understand that indeed every investor must have the best way and planning to be able to achieve their respective goals, and of course because of that we can see some of them who are always firm and follow the plan and there are also those who even stop halfway because for example there is something more important for example so they sell some of their bitcoin at a time that can be said to be less appropriate or even a little loss.

Yes and indeed I think all bitcoin players should be able to stick to their stance to get bigger profits, like you said, you will never want to sell if it is far from the target you have set, but well there are always conditions that will force us because of urgent needs maybe. That's the point, I think everyone has their own perspective in making every decision that they think is best.

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September 21, 2023, 05:36:15 PM
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I didn't say that but in the interpretation it has the same meaning as the other point of view, it should be remembered that we are not involving altcoins here as a means of discussion in the context that the OP gave.
Following your response, the fact that we have been in a bearish phase for a long time until today which can be counted as more than two years, we agree that selling bitcoin at a price in a bearish phase (declining) is certainly a stupid decision, but this depends your personal situation and conditions. If you have a problem between life and death and you have no other money apart from the investment in bitcoin, the step you need to take is to sell the bitcoin you have to support yourself or your family, even if the situation is bearish and you experience a loss ( whenever that time is).
That has been said a million times and yet the crash is actually the proof itself that people sell. How do we think that we have come all the way down to 25k? People selling during the bear market made that happen, if they didn't sell then the price wouldn't have gone down, that's how market works, you have to sell to make it go down.

So, in a way we are saying that "you shouldn't sell during bear market" means you are not going to have a bear market at all, in order to see it low like this, they have to sell so we can buy at cheaper price. I would never do this, but I am not against others doing it, it allows me to make as much profit as I possibly could from it and makes me richer than I want to be thanks to them.

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Well that might happen in the second quarter of 2025 but it is also very possible not to happen because it is very difficult to be able to ascertain what will happen in a certain period on bitcoin itself. Well that's true even if things don't go according to our initial prediction of when the bullish highs will occur, I think there is nothing wrong with you waiting a little longer, I'm sure you want to make a big profit rather than selling all your bitcoins too early at a price that is just starting to rise (just starting and not too significant).

Well, yeah, like you said, it's very difficult to specifically know the price of Bitcoin in the next bull market. People can only speculate on the price, but that doesn't mean that it's going to be so. And in the aspect of selling one's Bitcoin asset, well, you know that every investor, be it in Bitcoin or other assets, has their own individual goals, which are usually different, so some people can decide to sell so early at any price they feel they are ok with, while others will keep holding for the next and upcoming bull market. For me, I have some goals I want to archive, but the way I planned it, I can only archive them if Bitcoin spikes and gives me a huge profit that can be used to settle them. But again, even if the Bitcoin price spikes today, I definitely will not sell everything at once; it's just to sell a few fractions of my holding.

But as time goes by it doesn't mean we have to stay silent by just speculating and waiting, I think we should be able to take more advantage of every condition, just like bitcoin which is very volatile there and that means we shouldn't waste any time or opportunity we have to keep learning because bitcoin will continue to grow and we also as investors must be able to keep up with the new things that arise from bitcoin by continuing to learn from various best references according to you. Well on the other hand I understand that indeed every investor must have the best way and planning to be able to achieve their respective goals, and of course because of that we can see some of them who are always firm and follow the plan and there are also those who even stop halfway because for example there is something more important for example so they sell some of their bitcoin at a time that can be said to be less appropriate or even a little loss.

Yes and indeed I think all bitcoin players should be able to stick to their stance to get bigger profits, like you said, you will never want to sell if it is far from the target you have set, but well there are always conditions that will force us because of urgent needs maybe. That's the point, I think everyone has their own perspective in making every decision that they think is best.
Depends on what kind of investor are you because there are ones who would really be just simply decide on holding and accumulating for long years before they would considering on selling out and there are ones who

cant really afford on holding for years before they could be able to see profits and thats why they would really be deciding on trading up with the market on active manner despite of the risks that impose. It all matters with preference or liking because we do really share up on the same sentiments on which is on to make money or profits.It do really just differs on how you would really be able to do it on which it wont really be that an issue
because each of us does have different plans and preferred method on dealing with this unpredictable space. Good to sell would be always into those positive numbers or gains which it is really just that common sense.

The important thing on here is that you should not really make yourself greedy along the way and secure out as much as possible and rinse and repeat the process.Sounds simple but its not
but doesnt mean that its impossible.

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September 21, 2023, 09:54:31 PM
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You are right to say that now is not the best time to sell both bitcoins and altcoins. Considering that the bearish trend has been going on for more than two years now, selling at the bottom is not the best idea. There is a chance that the trend will change soon and it is better to just hold the coins.
I also think that at the moment, because it would be a shame if Bitcoin and the best altcoins had to be sold at the current price, which still tends to be cheap in my opinion. So I think that keeping it well is the right choice rather than selling now which could cause regret when the bullish trend occurs again in the market. I also believe that changes for the better will soon return to the market with increasing prices in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.
Because we think that bull season will come and make us hold instead of selling it now. Of course, if we are into the aim of earning more profit, I could not really think of someone to sell their Bitcoin at the current price while buying it at $28k that was certainly wrong. But if that person buys Bitcoin at $20k, well, he could still make a profit from that but because we are greedy and we are hopeful about the upcoming bull season, so we decide to wait for that rather than deciding to sell it now.

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How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens?

It is always better to set a price target for selling your token. When the market reaches your targeted price, sell your holding regardless of how the market is behaving because you never know when the market will go the other way. If you are waiting to sell at an ATH, you are making a mistake because the person might get greedy when he sees the price pumping and end up losing his profit margin. Another scenario is that you invested in a coin for the long term, then forget your investment for 5 or 10 years.

Let's say, for example, if you invest in BTC at $26k. One thing is clear: in the next bull run, the price will surpass the past ATH ($69k). And if you sell your holding around this price, you can earn a good profit. So, there is no point in holding the coins if you are looking to buy again at lower rates (bear market).
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But as time goes by it doesn't mean we have to stay silent by just speculating and waiting, I think we should be able to take more advantage of every condition, just like bitcoin which is very volatile there and that means we shouldn't waste any time or opportunity we have to keep learning because bitcoin will continue to grow and we also as investors must be able to keep up with the new things that arise from bitcoin by continuing to learn from various best references according to you. Well on the other hand I understand that indeed every investor must have the best way and planning to be able to achieve their respective goals, and of course because of that we can see some of them who are always firm and follow the plan and there are also those who even stop halfway because for example there is something more important for example so they sell some of their bitcoin at a time that can be said to be less appropriate or even a little loss.

Yes and indeed I think all bitcoin players should be able to stick to their stance to get bigger profits, like you said, you will never want to sell if it is far from the target you have set, but well there are always conditions that will force us because of urgent needs maybe. That's the point, I think everyone has their own perspective in making every decision that they think is best.
Depends on what kind of investor are you because there are ones who would really be just simply decide on holding and accumulating for long years before they would considering on selling out and there are ones who

cant really afford on holding for years before they could be able to see profits and thats why they would really be deciding on trading up with the market on active manner despite of the risks that impose. It all matters with preference or liking because we do really share up on the same sentiments on which is on to make money or profits.It do really just differs on how you would really be able to do it on which it wont really be that an issue
because each of us does have different plans and preferred method on dealing with this unpredictable space. Good to sell would be always into those positive numbers or gains which it is really just that common sense.

The important thing on here is that you should not really make yourself greedy along the way and secure out as much as possible and rinse and repeat the process.Sounds simple but its not
but doesnt mean that its impossible.

Yes, that's right, basically it will come back to depending on themselves, whether you are the type of investor who likes the technical or fundamental analyst style it depends on your best planning which basically according to your own comfort. In my opinion, whether or not someone is able to hold bitcoin also depends on the conditions in his life, as we know that there will always be unexpected things in the future, for example like you need money very urgently and that can encourage you to sell some bitcoins that you should sell in the next few years according to the target but because of this urgent condition has indirectly thwarted your plans for greater profits and you will sell it for your own good. I honestly don't think this is wrong because these conditions can happen and are certainly beyond our expectations. So only they are able to choose and find the best decision according to them and as I said it will not always be able to reach the target in the next few years because there will always be conditions that you don't want to come to you, as I said before.

Yes, you mentioned a very important point here by forbidding people not to be greedy in investing, obviously this always happens and it is not uncommon for some investors to experience it. It is very clear that greed always ends up hurting and regretting, so the point is that if you have already made a profit according to the target then there you can immediately stop and secure the amount you managed to get, then after that you can start again from the beginning with the same goal. You will be able to get the same profit again in future bullish situations.

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I will say there is no good time to sell the coins. Don’t keep targets to cash out if you want to yield maximum profits from it. Whenever you need emergency amount, at that time only sell the coins. If there is no emergency funds required, then don’t sell the coins. Don’t keep any expectations from Bitcoins and it will automatically give you the maximum profit when required. Just accumulate and HODL.

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You are right to say that now is not the best time to sell both bitcoins and altcoins. Considering that the bearish trend has been going on for more than two years now, selling at the bottom is not the best idea. There is a chance that the trend will change soon and it is better to just hold the coins.
I also think that at the moment, because it would be a shame if Bitcoin and the best altcoins had to be sold at the current price, which still tends to be cheap in my opinion. So I think that keeping it well is the right choice rather than selling now which could cause regret when the bullish trend occurs again in the market. I also believe that changes for the better will soon return to the market with increasing prices in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.
Because we think that bull season will come and make us hold instead of selling it now. Of course, if we are into the aim of earning more profit, I could not really think of someone to sell their Bitcoin at the current price while buying it at $28k that was certainly wrong. But if that person buys Bitcoin at $20k, well, he could still make a profit from that but because we are greedy and we are hopeful about the upcoming bull season, so we decide to wait for that rather than deciding to sell it now.
It's pretty simple in words, but in practice people often lose money, even if they hold coins for a long time. There are collapses in the markets and people can panic. It is very difficult psychologically to see your deposit decreasing and sometimes you have thoughts of selling all the coins. The main thing is to be able to fight such thoughts.

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September 22, 2023, 08:33:54 PM
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I didn't say that but in the interpretation it has the same meaning as the other point of view, it should be remembered that we are not involving altcoins here as a means of discussion in the context that the OP gave.
Following your response, the fact that we have been in a bearish phase for a long time until today which can be counted as more than two years, we agree that selling bitcoin at a price in a bearish phase (declining) is certainly a stupid decision, but this depends your personal situation and conditions. If you have a problem between life and death and you have no other money apart from the investment in bitcoin, the step you need to take is to sell the bitcoin you have to support yourself or your family, even if the situation is bearish and you experience a loss ( whenever that time is).
That has been said a million times and yet the crash is actually the proof itself that people sell. How do we think that we have come all the way down to 25k? People selling during the bear market made that happen, if they didn't sell then the price wouldn't have gone down, that's how market works, you have to sell to make it go down.

So, in a way we are saying that "you shouldn't sell during bear market" means you are not going to have a bear market at all, in order to see it low like this, they have to sell so we can buy at cheaper price. I would never do this, but I am not against others doing it, it allows me to make as much profit as I possibly could from it and makes me richer than I want to be thanks to them.
In terms of market performance mechanisms are true as you say, it is necessary to have sales to cause Bitcoin to fall, and we see it together so as to form a pattern of bullish and bearish trends throughout the year and its cycles.
Theoretically it is true that we "do not sell when the bearish state" I agree that it is a mistake, but the context I mean is, for those of you who have life problems do not force too much if you or your family experience threats, Bitcoin sales at the time of the situation Bad in your life/family is the best decision in this case.

Yes, it should indeed be at the time of bearish when everyone sells bitcoin, we should collect bitcoin to increase greater wealth.

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September 22, 2023, 09:10:17 PM
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I will say there is no good time to sell the coins. Don’t keep targets to cash out if you want to yield maximum profits from it. Whenever you need emergency amount, at that time only sell the coins. If there is no emergency funds required, then don’t sell the coins. Don’t keep any expectations from Bitcoins and it will automatically give you the maximum profit when required. Just accumulate and HODL.

So your advice is just to hold forever? You're not going to live forever, so it makes sense to have some goals in mind and answer yourself a question what is the purpose of you holding bitcoins?
If you want to pass it on to the next generation (building intergenerational wealth) - that's fine. But sitting on your coins just for the sake of it, with no end in sight makes no sense.

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So your advice is just to hold forever? You're not going to live forever, so it makes sense to have some goals in mind and answer yourself a question what is the purpose of you holding bitcoins?
If you want to pass it on to the next generation (building intergenerational wealth) - that's fine. But sitting on your coins just for the sake of it, with no end in sight makes no sense.
I think when we already feel profitable then it is not wrong to also sell some of the profits obtained because in this case everyone must have their own targets but when the investment we make has not yet made a profit then why do we release it now.

I agree that if we don't do anything then why invest because everyone also has a desire for profit but in other cases I still feel that everyone has their own goals even though it is not wrong to sell and no one forbids it but I still want to hold for now because my target in profit has not been achieved and I am sure that when I still hold my assets then the target I want to exit sooner or later will definitely happen.

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I will say there is no good time to sell the coins. Don’t keep targets to cash out if you want to yield maximum profits from it. Whenever you need emergency amount, at that time only sell the coins. If there is no emergency funds required, then don’t sell the coins. Don’t keep any expectations from Bitcoins and it will automatically give you the maximum profit when required. Just accumulate and HODL.

So your advice is just to hold forever? You're not going to live forever, so it makes sense to have some goals in mind and answer yourself a question what is the purpose of you holding bitcoins?
If you want to pass it on to the next generation (building intergenerational wealth) - that's fine. But sitting on your coins just for the sake of it, with no end in sight makes no sense.
Building intergenerational wealth is not as easy as one might think, there is a lot to do.
thinking about security, who will hold it, and who will be truly trusted.

Then how much Bitcoin to hold?
But in the end, we as the original holders will enjoy nothing, and take no advantage if what is done lasts forever.

After all, why should it last forever without a target to make a profit?
I may be a long-term holder, but there will be targets to be achieved and then I will enjoy the benefits. 

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September 22, 2023, 11:34:45 PM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

There's no way we can determine that honestly. It's hard even how simple the question is.

Generally, as far as most traders are concerned, their own sentiment rules over their strategies.

Yes, they sell because of mostly instincts depending on the market behavior. Personally, that's a risk but sometimes it works. Especially if we talk about bitcoin, it's tough to determine when to buy and sell. As always, a good practice would be, a continues DCA and of course, only sell in profits and not the other way around "buy high sell low" lol.
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in the next bull run, the price will surpass the past ATH

I dont assume that, I think we can retrace those prior losses just partially and then come right back to here without making a new ATH.   I reckon we can go another 2 years and its not overdue for any new high.  Partially because the last high followed a hundred year event and exceptional excess of money printing by multiple nations which helped boost weakness in currency.    So its a spring high tide mark maybe, hundred year storms can change landscapes for generations and not be repeated; perhaps its quite that unique but not everything will be as predictable as the daily tide & natural variation is a known thing.

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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

None of us here can say when we should sell, because everyone has their own prediction in mind, according to their understanding of analyzing and reading the chart or graph in the trading view or exchange. I think, instead of asking that, it's better to have a set target price for when you want to sell it. It's simple: when you reach your target price, sell it.

Now, the decision is up to us. If we think the price will go up a lot in the market, we can extend the wait before selling it. Because no one really knows. That's why we have a deep understanding of performing technical and fundamental analysis in trading, because this way it can really help us a lot, and it's proven and tested by those who know crypto or Bitcoin trading.


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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

I don't have any intentions of selling anytime soon but if I did it would not matter if it was at the peak of a bull run or when prices had started to decline. As long as I sell at a significantly higher price than at the time the BTC was acquired I would be satisfied. I would only sell if there was a really big purchase I wanted to make. Afterward I would begin to accumulate once again. Bitcoin is too important and valuable to me that I would feel the necessity to acquire and hodl more after having cashed out a large sum.

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September 23, 2023, 06:49:23 AM
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The right time to sell is of course very difficult to predict because we won't know until the BTC price rises, so in selling I will use the DCA system and gradually, and I think using the DCA system is a good way to do it. sell BTC because if you don't use the DCA system I'm afraid all BTC won't be sold. and I also in selling will look at the market situation and news.
Right now we should not think of selling.
This is the time of buying bitcoin as bitcoin is well under its price of the all time high. This is why people need the knowledge when they come in financial markets to either trade or invest in bitcoin.

For me, I will plan and think to sell when we reach all time high again or make new highs. Believe me, if you buy bitcoin at around 26-27k and sell it at 30k, you might be happy making a few hundred dollars but you will miss the big moves as the bull market first phase is very near now.
It basically depends on one's personal financial goals and targets whether they want to sell or hold for the long term. Most of us might buy and hold our assets for as long as we can because we always aim to sell when the bull run is there since those are the times when the price of Bitcoins goes significantly high as we have seen that happening in the past, but some people won't have the same thought and they believe in buying and selling for quick profits.

However, I believe that if someone can afford to do so, they should go for doing both. They should buy some Bitcoins and hold them for the long term, and if they have more liquid assets left, they should buy and sell Bitcoins or other cryptocurrencies and sell them after a short while to gain some profit.

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I don't have any intentions of selling anytime soon but if I did it would not matter if it was at the peak of a bull run or when prices had started to decline. As long as I sell at a significantly higher price than at the time the BTC was acquired I would be satisfied.

A lot of people say that, but I have my doubts if you'd be satisfied if you bought in at $10k, sold at $20k just to witness BTC going to say $250k. It makes every sense to try to figure out how to maximise your profits i.e. by using metrics that people mentioned in this thread.
During the 2017 rally, I sold a lot of my stash at 4-6k, if I waited just a little bit longer I could get x3 that. It didn't feel like a win.

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After all, why should it last forever without a target to make a profit?
I may be a long-term holder, but there will be targets to be achieved and then I will enjoy the benefits. 

Exactly. Someone has to take some benefits out of the holding, otherwise, it's pointless. If you trust that Bitcoin will keep gaining in value over time, a tactic of cashing out small portion i.e. each time the price doubles (or something similar) would make sense.

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September 23, 2023, 08:47:15 AM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

I don't have any intentions of selling anytime soon but if I did it would not matter if it was at the peak of a bull run or when prices had started to decline. As long as I sell at a significantly higher price than at the time the BTC was acquired I would be satisfied. I would only sell if there was a really big purchase I wanted to make. Afterward I would begin to accumulate once again. Bitcoin is too important and valuable to me that I would feel the necessity to acquire and hodl more after having cashed out a large sum.
I believe this is still directed to the time of the bull run, and I'm sure that people would be affected by FOMO and some afterwards bearish threats which might make them panic and want to sell after some initial gains. It's easier said than done for many hodlers to wait for Bitcoin to effectuate the bull run completely. The reason is simple, it's due to the dynamism of the market mixed with its uncertainty. For this, people's emotions might be able to carry it and many would not want to lose the money they had already gained, it's until the time comes before you fully understand this, especially if you've not benefited from the initial bull run or inexperienced about trader's psychology in line with the market.

As for me, I would rather not say I will not sell at any time, I will only let my technical chart guide me.

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September 23, 2023, 12:14:36 PM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

I don't have any intentions of selling anytime soon but if I did it would not matter if it was at the peak of a bull run or when prices had started to decline. As long as I sell at a significantly higher price than at the time the BTC was acquired I would be satisfied. I would only sell if there was a really big purchase I wanted to make. Afterward I would begin to accumulate once again. Bitcoin is too important and valuable to me that I would feel the necessity to acquire and hodl more after having cashed out a large sum.
I believe this is still directed to the time of the bull run, and I'm sure that people would be affected by FOMO and some afterwards bearish threats which might make them panic and want to sell after some initial gains. It's easier said than done for many hodlers to wait for Bitcoin to effectuate the bull run completely. The reason is simple, it's due to the dynamism of the market mixed with its uncertainty. For this, people's emotions might be able to carry it and many would not want to lose the money they had already gained, it's until the time comes before you fully understand this, especially if you've not benefited from the initial bull run or inexperienced about trader's psychology in line with the market.

As for me, I would rather not say I will not sell at any time, I will only let my technical chart guide me.

Yes, it's easy to say, but when we are in that situation we will see that making the decision to sell while the price is still increasing is not easy. I also see many investors who are very confident and assertive when saying that they will sell as soon as they make a profit or achieve their goals. But I don't think many people will be able to do that because everyone is greedy and wants to gain more profits. Even many long-time and experienced investors sometimes find it difficult to avoid this temptation, let alone first-time investors who feel they have made significant profits.

Honestly, I myself also set a plan but I'm not sure if I can execute the plan I set and this is not my first bull season.

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September 23, 2023, 03:27:17 PM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

Investors hoarded their bitcoins only to sell them in a bull market. When to sell the amount of money I have invested and Hodl it must be sold from my point of view when the market reaches its peak. We can assume that the Bitcoin market will touch $100,000 in the next bull market, and we are holding the Bitcoins, I will sell my invested BTC as soon as Bitcoin clears this price.
We've seen many pundits predict and confirm that Bitcoin price will move to this position when the next bull run occurs. And we put Bitcoin away with this hope, and we think Bitcoin will reach this goal very soon, and we can see a bull market.

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September 23, 2023, 07:43:56 PM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

I don't have any intentions of selling anytime soon but if I did it would not matter if it was at the peak of a bull run or when prices had started to decline. As long as I sell at a significantly higher price than at the time the BTC was acquired I would be satisfied. I would only sell if there was a really big purchase I wanted to make. Afterward I would begin to accumulate once again. Bitcoin is too important and valuable to me that I would feel the necessity to acquire and hodl more after having cashed out a large sum.
I believe this is still directed to the time of the bull run, and I'm sure that people would be affected by FOMO and some afterwards bearish threats which might make them panic and want to sell after some initial gains. It's easier said than done for many hodlers to wait for Bitcoin to effectuate the bull run completely. The reason is simple, it's due to the dynamism of the market mixed with its uncertainty. For this, people's emotions might be able to carry it and many would not want to lose the money they had already gained, it's until the time comes before you fully understand this, especially if you've not benefited from the initial bull run or inexperienced about trader's psychology in line with the market.

As for me, I would rather not say I will not sell at any time, I will only let my technical chart guide me.

Yes, it's easy to say, but when we are in that situation we will see that making the decision to sell while the price is still increasing is not easy. I also see many investors who are very confident and assertive when saying that they will sell as soon as they make a profit or achieve their goals. But I don't think many people will be able to do that because everyone is greedy and wants to gain more profits. Even many long-time and experienced investors sometimes find it difficult to avoid this temptation, let alone first-time investors who feel they have made significant profits.

Honestly, I myself also set a plan but I'm not sure if I can execute the plan I set and this is not my first bull season.
You would really be always having those thoughts in mind that, what if the price would be increasing or shooting up even more? We would really be hesitating on doing such action or step because
we dont really like on selling out early and this is the main reason on why we do hold up our position until it would be hitting up those numbers that we do have in mind but sadly due to extreme holding position then majority of people would really be that ending up on missing those opportunities on selling on the right spot or time but since this market is unpredictable then there's no way on knowing on whats the peak price. Therefore, any decisions would be made up along the way would really be neither be ending up on positive or negative and this is something that cant be known but
doesnt mean that you cant really be able to point out on what are the best decisions would be or should be made on.

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September 23, 2023, 09:57:21 PM
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but well there are always conditions that will force us because of urgent needs maybe. That's the point, I think everyone has their own perspective in making every decision that they think is best.

Coincidentally, this time around, I am fond of saying that "we are all different people." And everyone has their needs and some immediate financial problems that they need to solve, but as we frequently discuss the investment strategy of Bitcoin, it becomes obvious that some people personally put themselves in a financial dilemma because of how they either overinvested in Bitcoin or did not invest what they know they can hold for a long time. Some people invest, and they don't allocate some funds as emergency funds so that any time needs arise, they will not have to sell their crypto asset.

We invest towards the future, so that when we reap our profit, we could use it to solve some needs, and like you said (I agree with you), some people pass through some challenges that force them to sell their assets, like health issues or some issues when the person is at the point of life and death. If selling one's asset more quickly than speculated is the only solution to the person's problem, then it's not a bad decision to sell off. Perhaps we invest so our investment can save the day someday.

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September 23, 2023, 10:03:44 PM
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I don't have any intentions of selling anytime soon but if I did it would not matter if it was at the peak of a bull run or when prices had started to decline. As long as I sell at a significantly higher price than at the time the BTC was acquired I would be satisfied.

A lot of people say that, but I have my doubts if you'd be satisfied if you bought in at $10k, sold at $20k just to witness BTC going to say $250k. It makes every sense to try to figure out how to maximise your profits i.e. by using metrics that people mentioned in this thread.
During the 2017 rally, I sold a lot of my stash at 4-6k, if I waited just a little bit longer I could get x3 that. It didn't feel like a win.


Bitcoin has not had a 25x price growth in many years. If that was my target then I could probably sell today and easily earn it all back and a lot more before seeing that sort of opportunity. I've been through this many times before. I held some ETH in its early days. I held Doge when it was less than a cent and only made about 100x profit when it could've been 1000x. There is almost always a better time to sell, maybe not for some shitcoins but for BTC this is always the case. I don't really have any regrets because bear markets will always return to provide us with an opportunity to recover.

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September 24, 2023, 05:56:33 AM
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Bitcoin has not had a 25x price growth in many years. If that was my target then I could probably sell today and easily earn it all back and a lot more before seeing that sort of opportunity.
Certainly, it has happened. If you bought Bitcoin in early 2017 and sold it today, on September 24, 2023, it's already x25 increase. That's within a 6-year time span. Even if you sold it on November 5, 2021, your asset would have multiplied by x60 within just 4 years.

The higher the volatility of crypto assets, the greater the potential for profit multiplication. However, remember that market trends can also move in the opposite direction of profit, and I believe you already understand the associated risks.

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in my opinion this is the good time for buy not for sell , i advise people to stop listen to news about crypto especially bad news about bitcoin because bitcoin will go up everytime . sell bitcoin now is a bad idea , more good events will come for bitcoin very soon , every traders or investors should forgot about sell because the current prices very very low
 
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Quote from: pawel7777
A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Once the price of Bitcoin increase above $50,000 in the market, show that am good to release my Bitcoin for sale and it will help me to make profits I have never make before in my Bitcoin investment, because every of my Bitcoin holding, I aways make progress by increasing my profits. Now that the end of the year is approaching and many holders need money to finance their budget so that Christmas and new year celebration will be a beautiful one in their various environment, I don't think they will joke with the next move of the price of Bitcoin because the price will definitely increase higher before the end of this year. If you have some Bitcoin to sell now, I will advise you to exercise patience with the current price by holding for the price to increase higher before you can sell.

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I will sell it when the price of bitcoin rises above 100k. After Bitcoin is worth 100k, I will enjoy selling half of my investment profit and keep the other half for the next bull market. No matter how late it takes for Bitcoin to reach 100k, I will sell it as soon as it reaches 100k. And I know that it won't be too late for Bitcoin to hit 100k.

Don't change your mind in the middle of the trip. Yes. it took a long time to reach that price. If many people support it and the FUD News about BTC disappears for a moment it will be easy and the FED will be calm and no longer busy with events such as interest rate rationalization and other agendas. Currently, many market players are probably tired of seeing market conditions because most of them are waiting for information from the government.

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Well, yeah, like you said, it's very difficult to specifically know the price of Bitcoin in the next bull market. People can only speculate on the price, but that doesn't mean that it's going to be so. And in the aspect of selling one's Bitcoin asset, well, you know that every investor, be it in Bitcoin or other assets, has their own individual goals, which are usually different, so some people can decide to sell so early at any price they feel they are ok with, while others will keep holding for the next and upcoming bull market. For me, I have some goals I want to archive, but the way I planned it, I can only archive them if Bitcoin spikes and gives me a huge profit that can be used to settle them. But again, even if the Bitcoin price spikes today, I definitely will not sell everything at once; it's just to sell a few fractions of my holding.
But as time goes by it doesn't mean we have to stay silent by just speculating and waiting, I think we should be able to take more advantage of every condition, just like bitcoin which is very volatile there and that means we shouldn't waste any time or opportunity we have to keep learning because bitcoin will continue to grow and we also as investors must be able to keep up with the new things that arise from bitcoin by continuing to learn from various best references according to you. Well on the other hand I understand that indeed every investor must have the best way and planning to be able to achieve their respective goals, and of course because of that we can see some of them who are always firm and follow the plan and there are also those who even stop halfway because for example there is something more important for example so they sell some of their bitcoin at a time that can be said to be less appropriate or even a little loss.

Yes and indeed I think all bitcoin players should be able to stick to their stance to get bigger profits, like you said, you will never want to sell if it is far from the target you have set, but well there are always conditions that will force us because of urgent needs maybe. That's the point, I think everyone has their own perspective in making every decision that they think is best.
That is hard for some people because they do not end up getting what they want out of this. I feel like it's a tough thing to handle and I understand why that would be a bad feeling as well, it's totally understandable and should be considered as a good thing. I believe that we are going to end up with something that would be a lot better, I think it should be something that would be a lot better but also a tough one.

People can't just buy and hold, there are many reasons for it, there could be bills to pay, emergency, just fear, there are plenty of reasons really. I do agree that they should, and I am sure that half of all the people who sold do agree that they shouldn't, but they had to and that's a valid reason.
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September 25, 2023, 08:48:16 PM
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Well, yeah, like you said, it's very difficult to specifically know the price of Bitcoin in the next bull market. People can only speculate on the price, but that doesn't mean that it's going to be so. And in the aspect of selling one's Bitcoin asset, well, you know that every investor, be it in Bitcoin or other assets, has their own individual goals, which are usually different, so some people can decide to sell so early at any price they feel they are ok with, while others will keep holding for the next and upcoming bull market. For me, I have some goals I want to archive, but the way I planned it, I can only archive them if Bitcoin spikes and gives me a huge profit that can be used to settle them. But again, even if the Bitcoin price spikes today, I definitely will not sell everything at once; it's just to sell a few fractions of my holding.
But as time goes by it doesn't mean we have to stay silent by just speculating and waiting, I think we should be able to take more advantage of every condition, just like bitcoin which is very volatile there and that means we shouldn't waste any time or opportunity we have to keep learning because bitcoin will continue to grow and we also as investors must be able to keep up with the new things that arise from bitcoin by continuing to learn from various best references according to you. Well on the other hand I understand that indeed every investor must have the best way and planning to be able to achieve their respective goals, and of course because of that we can see some of them who are always firm and follow the plan and there are also those who even stop halfway because for example there is something more important for example so they sell some of their bitcoin at a time that can be said to be less appropriate or even a little loss.

Yes and indeed I think all bitcoin players should be able to stick to their stance to get bigger profits, like you said, you will never want to sell if it is far from the target you have set, but well there are always conditions that will force us because of urgent needs maybe. That's the point, I think everyone has their own perspective in making every decision that they think is best.
That is hard for some people because they do not end up getting what they want out of this. I feel like it's a tough thing to handle and I understand why that would be a bad feeling as well, it's totally understandable and should be considered as a good thing. I believe that we are going to end up with something that would be a lot better, I think it should be something that would be a lot better but also a tough one.

People can't just buy and hold, there are many reasons for it, there could be bills to pay, emergency, just fear, there are plenty of reasons really. I do agree that they should, and I am sure that half of all the people who sold do agree that they shouldn't, but they had to and that's a valid reason.
You wont really be putting up yourself into a situation or condition if you do really just make use of the amount which is extra or something that it isnt really intended for emergency funds or something that really

in priority because this would really be mainly be affecting you whenever you do see the market is making out some shit movement or totally opposing on what you had placed.This is why it would really be
that just important that you should really know about those differences so that you would really be able to make yourself having that control and dont lost up track due to emotions.
Selling points would really be that common on which it would be pertaining about those higher prices on where you have entered.

Buy high Sell low concept? Yes, this is the basic principle of trading but its not really that something simple on which you could really be able to do so easily.
Selling out on higher price but how to make out those buying positions? This is where struggle do starts but if you cant bare up with the risks and the pressure then people
would be having other options too on which they could just simply hold for long term.

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September 25, 2023, 09:49:40 PM
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I will sell it when the price of bitcoin rises above 100k. After Bitcoin is worth 100k, I will enjoy selling half of my investment profit and keep the other half for the next bull market. No matter how late it takes for Bitcoin to reach 100k, I will sell it as soon as it reaches 100k. And I know that it won't be too late for Bitcoin to hit 100k.

What's so special about 100k? Why not 99k or 110k? People like round numbers, but every trader should be cautious of such to not get caught in a psychological trap. If you're truly hoping to cash out at that level, it would make every sense to set your selling price at least a little bit bellow the 100k mark.

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September 28, 2023, 10:50:48 AM
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Bitcoin has not had a 25x price growth in many years. If that was my target then I could probably sell today and easily earn it all back and a lot more before seeing that sort of opportunity. I've been through this many times before. I held some ETH in its early days. I held Doge when it was less than a cent and only made about 100x profit when it could've been 1000x. There is almost always a better time to sell, maybe not for some shitcoins but for BTC this is always the case. I don't really have any regrets because bear markets will always return to provide us with an opportunity to recover.

Yes, this is a very good time to sell Bitcoin. This is the time of the going up of Bitcoin. Bitcoin's price is around 26,000 dollars and 28,000 dollars. This is a great opportunity to sell Bitcoin, don’t wait for Bitcoin to go more up, sell the Bitcoin in the current situation. It’s better for you. Smiley

But for us, we are not selling until we see a $100,000 bitcoin  Wink
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Bitcoin has not had a 25x price growth in many years. If that was my target then I could probably sell today and easily earn it all back and a lot more before seeing that sort of opportunity. I've been through this many times before. I held some ETH in its early days. I held Doge when it was less than a cent and only made about 100x profit when it could've been 1000x. There is almost always a better time to sell, maybe not for some shitcoins but for BTC this is always the case. I don't really have any regrets because bear markets will always return to provide us with an opportunity to recover.

Yes, this is a very good time to sell Bitcoin. This is the time of the going up of Bitcoin. Bitcoin's price is around 26,000 dollars and 28,000 dollars. This is a great opportunity to sell Bitcoin, don’t wait for Bitcoin to go more up, sell the Bitcoin in the current situation. It’s better for you. Smiley

But for us, we are not selling until we see a $100,000 bitcoin  Wink
Whether or not the time to sell is right depends on the initial target that we have set. If we look at the Bitcoin price which is always moving, of course there are all possibilities for us to be able to make big or small profits, but it all comes back to the target of the planning that we have done. .

And for those people who are waiting for $100k I think it is quite logical considering the possible possibilities that many people are talking about about the Halving and the next ATH, I am also waiting for that.

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September 28, 2023, 12:48:36 PM
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On bitcoin, it is best to hold long-term. But if someone needs funds selling a portion of it in 2025 is reasonable enough. In the meantime, I quit trading so I also stopped using indicators. But I might sell part of my holding when bitcoin reaches the previous ATH of $67k and then once again around $95k. In the previous bull runs I waited too much which was $20k in 2017 and $70k in 2021. It didn't happen so I will be a little conservative this time. But it is still better to use indicators and I might also trade again during that time.

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September 28, 2023, 01:02:31 PM
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Bitcoin has not had a 25x price growth in many years. If that was my target then I could probably sell today and easily earn it all back and a lot more before seeing that sort of opportunity. I've been through this many times before. I held some ETH in its early days. I held Doge when it was less than a cent and only made about 100x profit when it could've been 1000x. There is almost always a better time to sell, maybe not for some shitcoins but for BTC this is always the case. I don't really have any regrets because bear markets will always return to provide us with an opportunity to recover.

Yes, this is a very good time to sell Bitcoin. This is the time of the going up of Bitcoin. Bitcoin's price is around 26,000 dollars and 28,000 dollars. This is a great opportunity to sell Bitcoin, don’t wait for Bitcoin to go more up, sell the Bitcoin in the current situation. It’s better for you. Smiley

But for us, we are not selling until we see a $100,000 bitcoin  Wink
Whether or not the time to sell is right depends on the initial target that we have set. If we look at the Bitcoin price which is always moving, of course there are all possibilities for us to be able to make big or small profits, but it all comes back to the target of the planning that we have done. .

And for those people who are waiting for $100k I think it is quite logical considering the possible possibilities that many people are talking about about the Halving and the next ATH, I am also waiting for that.

Those who can afford to hold until the next bull season will only sell when bitcoin makes a new ATH, which is something to celebrate because the profits will then be much larger. But I also don't see anything wrong with someone selling bitcoin now if they have a good reason given their circumstances or it's a goal they set years ago. The best time to sell bitcoin is to sell at the target we set, not at the highest price because no one can know what the highest price is.

I'm also waiting for bitcoin's new ATH but I'm not waiting for $100k, I will only sell when bitcoin reaches my target. I think an ATH of $100k in the next bull season is quite modest and I expect $150k or more, I will sell the majority of my bitcoin.

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September 28, 2023, 01:13:58 PM
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On bitcoin, it is best to hold long-term. But if someone needs funds selling a portion of it in 2025 is reasonable enough. In the meantime, I quit trading so I also stopped using indicators. But I might sell part of my holding when bitcoin reaches the previous ATH of $67k and then once again around $95k. In the previous bull runs I waited too much which was $20k in 2017 and $70k in 2021. It didn't happen so I will be a little conservative this time. But it is still better to use indicators and I might also trade again during that time.
If you have known Bitcoin for a long time, you should be wiser in determining when to sell, and as you say is quite true and the reasons are very strong.
It is very possible for bitcoin to reach its latest price peak and if we look at the many speculations from experts and look at what has happened in the past then I think there is no need to doubt anything, so if this Bitcoin investment is quite promising then there is no reason to release it early if it is not due to urgent needs or other things beyond your control.
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September 28, 2023, 02:59:26 PM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?
For me personally, whenever it looks profitable then that's the right time to sell, so far I often sell or buy in stages because for me this method allows me not to miss any momentum that occurs in the market and using this method may be a little better than targeting the peak price because sometimes when it has risen to the highest peak it will encourage investors to become greedy so they don't immediately release their bitcoin at that price, they hope there will be an even higher peak than that, lucky if the market moves according to expectations but if not it will cause regret.

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September 28, 2023, 03:51:25 PM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

If I were to decide those days that I still have Bitcoin at my wallet, maybe I shouldn't sell it until the time bullrun hits during pandemic. There no specific goals or targets can be established, because Bitcoin is certainly unpredictable and that's a legit scenario. Everybody was shocked during those old days, and if I could turn back time holding bitcoin will be my most priority. Nowadays, I'm financially drowned because of wrong decisions I've made of my crypto assets during the peak of coins and altcoins.

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September 28, 2023, 09:02:27 PM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?
For me personally, whenever it looks profitable then that's the right time to sell, so far I often sell or buy in stages because for me this method allows me not to miss any momentum that occurs in the market and using this method may be a little better than targeting the peak price because sometimes when it has risen to the highest peak it will encourage investors to become greedy so they don't immediately release their bitcoin at that price, they hope there will be an even higher peak than that, lucky if the market moves according to expectations but if not it will cause regret.
At least you make a profit and feel contentment in just small amounts. Playing the market volatility is a smart idea and are able to make more profit rather than just holding and waiting for the next bull season. Indeed, I play the same as you and I take the opportunity to sell them in the moment that the price goes high. I would tell you that the volatility of the market helps a lot, it is our advantage in generating a profit but, it also need to study it well as this will be a reason for our losses if we make a mistake.

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September 28, 2023, 09:39:40 PM
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I will sell it when the price of bitcoin rises above 100k. After Bitcoin is worth 100k, I will enjoy selling half of my investment profit and keep the other half for the next bull market. No matter how late it takes for Bitcoin to reach 100k, I will sell it as soon as it reaches 100k. And I know that it won't be too late for Bitcoin to hit 100k.
Some investors doesn't rush and sell out their coins, they only wait and make sure that their coins grow before selling, when you sell your coin will indicates how much profits you make for your investment, when you invest with a money you did not plan to cash it out anytime or have it back anytime you will on your own allow it to stay till when you will make profit, bitcoin investment have to be mature for the investor to make profit through target, when you don't have a particular time in mind you will not know when to cash out your funds

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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?
For me personally, whenever it looks profitable then that's the right time to sell, so far I often sell or buy in stages because for me this method allows me not to miss any momentum that occurs in the market and using this method may be a little better than targeting the peak price because sometimes when it has risen to the highest peak it will encourage investors to become greedy so they don't immediately release their bitcoin at that price, they hope there will be an even higher peak than that, lucky if the market moves according to expectations but if not it will cause regret.
At least you make a profit and feel contentment in just small amounts. Playing the market volatility is a smart idea and are able to make more profit rather than just holding and waiting for the next bull season. Indeed, I play the same as you and I take the opportunity to sell them in the moment that the price goes high. I would tell you that the volatility of the market helps a lot, it is our advantage in generating a profit but, it also need to study it well as this will be a reason for our losses if we make a mistake.

Profit is profit and no matter how small it is as long it would really be that positive or green then make yourself get contented with that. Dont make yourself that been dragged with those regrets and hesitations on the time that you do see the price shoots up even more because it do really  give out that kind of odd and regret feeling which it isnt something ideal because it would really be causing that kind of impulsive approach which might cause up some mistakes and errors towards with your future decisions in your trading which i would say that it would really be just that bad.
Good time to sell would always be pertaining about those positive gains and never ever consider yourself on making those panic selling or sell on lose because there's no way that you could really be able to get it back
unless if you do hold your position then it would really be ideal on doing such thing but if not then you would be suffering losses which recovery might took long. This is why its always that important that you should
really be wise on when to take some entry and when to make some exit basing up on the market condition or situation.

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I agree, if you are in profit that would make sense but that doesn't mean that we are not going to end up with something that would benefit everyone, it would lead to something that you would regret on the short term. I personally believe that the best thing to do would be making sure that its going to end up with some losses one way or another, and that means you are not going to end up with a good result all that easily, so you should try to avoid it if possible. If you can hold, even while you are in profit, that would be better if the price keeps going up, you just need to make sure that its still going up and not really going down, which is a hard thing to do but can be done.

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I always try to look for couple different indicators. Main mathematical indicator is obviously pi cycle top. But many people consider those indicators as something very manipulative. So I also look for sentiment of markets. I especially observe my local people. At one point crypto market becomes so good that everyone starts to say they buy some Bitcoin. But as I say, its actually good time to sell. I mean even your local grocery guy buys Bitcoin (not as user but short term profit seeker) its a point to worry.
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On bitcoin, it is best to hold long-term. But if someone needs funds selling a portion of it in 2025 is reasonable enough. In the meantime, I quit trading so I also stopped using indicators. But I might sell part of my holding when bitcoin reaches the previous ATH of $67k and then once again around $95k. In the previous bull runs I waited too much which was $20k in 2017 and $70k in 2021. It didn't happen so I will be a little conservative this time. But it is still better to use indicators and I might also trade again during that time.
If you have known Bitcoin for a long time, you should be wiser in determining when to sell, and as you say is quite true and the reasons are very strong.
It is very possible for bitcoin to reach its latest price peak and if we look at the many speculations from experts and look at what has happened in the past then I think there is no need to doubt anything, so if this Bitcoin investment is quite promising then there is no reason to release it early if it is not due to urgent needs or other things beyond your control.
If you have long-term knowledge of Bitcoin, you will not sell your holdings of Bitcoin, but rather try to hold them for a long time. Of course, Bitcoin has a future that is very near, and it won't take long to reach that point, many experts have researched that it is going to build up to the high level of Bitcoin very soon. Of course, if we look at Bitcoin's history in the past, we can trust it now and rest assured that there is no doubt that Bitcoin is waiting to achieve great things ahead. Of course, Bitcoin investing should never be left to an emergency; it should wait to get to that point. You need to be patient until your risk of profit appears, and you must wait for your investment to pay off.

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I always try to look for couple different indicators. Main mathematical indicator is obviously pi cycle top. But many people consider those indicators as something very manipulative. So I also look for sentiment of markets. I especially observe my local people. At one point crypto market becomes so good that everyone starts to say they buy some Bitcoin. But as I say, its actually good time to sell. I mean even your local grocery guy buys Bitcoin (not as user but short term profit seeker) its a point to worry.

True, many items influence and are tied together. Yes. Market conditions always make us think, but one thing we feel is that trading consumes a lot of energy. If it rises, we feel happy and vice versa. But. I think if you want to set up buying and selling, it's better to just do it once a week (Short Term) maybe it's better for now.

Of course, there are lots of indicators that are used, but from the several sources that we have looked for and tried, none of them work perfectly, there are shortcomings and it comes back to us when we make decisions about when to buy and sell .

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October 02, 2023, 04:09:20 AM
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On bitcoin, it is best to hold long-term. But if someone needs funds selling a portion of it in 2025 is reasonable enough. In the meantime, I quit trading so I also stopped using indicators. But I might sell part of my holding when bitcoin reaches the previous ATH of $67k and then once again around $95k. In the previous bull runs I waited too much which was $20k in 2017 and $70k in 2021. It didn't happen so I will be a little conservative this time. But it is still better to use indicators and I might also trade again during that time.
If you have known Bitcoin for a long time, you should be wiser in determining when to sell, and as you say is quite true and the reasons are very strong.
It is very possible for bitcoin to reach its latest price peak and if we look at the many speculations from experts and look at what has happened in the past then I think there is no need to doubt anything, so if this Bitcoin investment is quite promising then there is no reason to release it early if it is not due to urgent needs or other things beyond your control.
If you have long-term knowledge of Bitcoin, you will not sell your holdings of Bitcoin, but rather try to hold them for a long time. Of course, Bitcoin has a future that is very near, and it won't take long to reach that point, many experts have researched that it is going to build up to the high level of Bitcoin very soon. Of course, if we look at Bitcoin's history in the past, we can trust it now and rest assured that there is no doubt that Bitcoin is waiting to achieve great things ahead. Of course, Bitcoin investing should never be left to an emergency; it should wait to get to that point. You need to be patient until your risk of profit appears, and you must wait for your investment to pay off.
When it comes to investing in Bitcoin we can say that it is a precondition for long term holding. Because we know that the market goes from long bullish to bearish and then bullish again through which bitcoin continues. If an investor is interested in earning large amount of money from Bitcoin, he must invest for the long term or else he will not be able to get to the desired position. However, there are some investors who are interested in taking short term profits. It totally depends on an investor. Short term investment has high probability of loss so long term investment must be done to avoid risk. But an investor's decision is the main point to consider profit or loss his investment. I am profitable with Bitcoin investment but I definitely want to hold it longer.

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True, many items influence and are tied together. Yes. Market conditions always make us think, but one thing we feel is that trading consumes a lot of energy. If it rises, we feel happy and vice versa. But. I think if you want to set up buying and selling, it's better to just do it once a week (Short Term) maybe it's better for now.
Everyone can actually make arrangements for buying and selling based on their own tastes, but what is certain is to see what level of profit we can get when we want to sell. Because basically buyers or traders in the short term have to look at the profits they can get so that it can be balanced enough with the energy they use when trading on the market.

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Of course, there are lots of indicators that are used, but from the several sources that we have looked for and tried, none of them work perfectly, there are shortcomings and it comes back to us when we make decisions about when to buy and sell .
Most people will continue to take advantage of falling prices to continue buying as much as they can and selling when they see an increase in prices as has happened today in the market. It is very likely that traders who once bought Bitcoin at $25K will be quite happy to see that Bitcoin has risen back to more than $28K and possibly back to $30K if there are no more price corrections this month.

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October 02, 2023, 11:45:41 AM
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I always try to look for couple different indicators. Main mathematical indicator is obviously pi cycle top. But many people consider those indicators as something very manipulative. So I also look for sentiment of markets. I especially observe my local people. At one point crypto market becomes so good that everyone starts to say they buy some Bitcoin. But as I say, its actually good time to sell. I mean even your local grocery guy buys Bitcoin (not as user but short term profit seeker) its a point to worry.

True, many items influence and are tied together. Yes. Market conditions always make us think, but one thing we feel is that trading consumes a lot of energy. If it rises, we feel happy and vice versa. But. I think if you want to set up buying and selling, it's better to just do it once a week (Short Term) maybe it's better for now.

Of course, there are lots of indicators that are used, but from the several sources that we have looked for and tried, none of them work perfectly, there are shortcomings and it comes back to us when we make decisions about when to buy and sell .
I am not really a fan of short term buying and selling as it require sophisticated skills to be profitable. From experience, it is most profitable buying and selling in a market under consolidation ( market moving within a range). But when there is a clear trend in the market,it becomes a problem. I usually do not encourage those who are not technically and psychologically prepared to venture into this style of Bitcoin investment.

Gradually we are seeing some positive response from the market, signalling that the much anticipated bull marketing is setting in. This is indeed a good time to buy rather than sell. Besides, who will hold Bitcoin through the prolonged consolidation only to sell when the marketing is showing signs of bullishness? Next year might be late to buy so all buying will be best suited now.

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October 02, 2023, 08:53:47 PM
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On bitcoin, it is best to hold long-term. But if someone needs funds selling a portion of it in 2025 is reasonable enough. In the meantime, I quit trading so I also stopped using indicators. But I might sell part of my holding when bitcoin reaches the previous ATH of $67k and then once again around $95k. In the previous bull runs I waited too much which was $20k in 2017 and $70k in 2021. It didn't happen so I will be a little conservative this time. But it is still better to use indicators and I might also trade again during that time.
If you have known Bitcoin for a long time, you should be wiser in determining when to sell, and as you say is quite true and the reasons are very strong.
It is very possible for bitcoin to reach its latest price peak and if we look at the many speculations from experts and look at what has happened in the past then I think there is no need to doubt anything, so if this Bitcoin investment is quite promising then there is no reason to release it early if it is not due to urgent needs or other things beyond your control.
If you have long-term knowledge of Bitcoin, you will not sell your holdings of Bitcoin, but rather try to hold them for a long time. Of course, Bitcoin has a future that is very near, and it won't take long to reach that point, many experts have researched that it is going to build up to the high level of Bitcoin very soon. Of course, if we look at Bitcoin's history in the past, we can trust it now and rest assured that there is no doubt that Bitcoin is waiting to achieve great things ahead. Of course, Bitcoin investing should never be left to an emergency; it should wait to get to that point. You need to be patient until your risk of profit appears, and you must wait for your investment to pay off.
When it comes to investing in Bitcoin we can say that it is a precondition for long term holding. Because we know that the market goes from long bullish to bearish and then bullish again through which bitcoin continues. If an investor is interested in earning large amount of money from Bitcoin, he must invest for the long term or else he will not be able to get to the desired position. However, there are some investors who are interested in taking short term profits. It totally depends on an investor. Short term investment has high probability of loss so long term investment must be done to avoid risk. But an investor's decision is the main point to consider profit or loss his investment. I am profitable with Bitcoin investment but I definitely want to hold it longer.
Im a type of investor on which it i do divide up my stash specially on Bitcoin which one is for holding up for long term and one would really be that good for making some short trades because it would really be that a

little boring if you do just simply wait up and sit down on how the market moves and it would really be just that wise on trying to make use of your time on dealing with the market actively on which it could really give out that kind of opportunity on which you could really make money in shortest time as possible or doesnt really need to wait but somehow it would really be that needing that more risks taking which not all
would really be able to do so. Time to sell? Or the best time to release those bags? Then this would really be falling down on someones preference yet know that we do have  that different selling point.

Doesnt matter on what would be the numbers as long it would really be sharing up on the same idea or goal on which is on to make those gains. Positive is positive or profit is profit and
doesnt matter on how small or big it is, the important is that you do really be able to make money out of those decisions that you had made.

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October 02, 2023, 09:52:48 PM
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I always try to look for couple different indicators. Main mathematical indicator is obviously pi cycle top. But many people consider those indicators as something very manipulative. So I also look for sentiment of markets. I especially observe my local people. At one point crypto market becomes so good that everyone starts to say they buy some Bitcoin. But as I say, its actually good time to sell. I mean even your local grocery guy buys Bitcoin (not as user but short term profit seeker) its a point to worry.

That's 100% true, you can tell we reached the peak when almost every person you talk to starts mentioning Bitcoin/crypto. I noticed that in the previous bull run. The problem with it is that this is hard to measure and therefore not very reliable.

Ideally I'd be looking at a combination of 3-4 easily measurable metrics, that could help you decide when is the best time to sell without relying on emotions at all.

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October 03, 2023, 03:43:50 PM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

If you are a long-term holder who is an investor, you should really have time to decide which part of your portfolio you want to sell. For example, your goal target is to sell the holdings you have when the profit from the capital you used is x5, or it depends on you if that's x10 or more. It is important that you have such settings. Because when there is no such timeframe, what will happen in the end is that you will have second thoughts about what you will do.

Is it the kind, you will think, am I going to sell it? or don't at first; maybe it will increase these thoughts that can enter our brains at the height of the bull run. Meaning if there are not enough settings, it can give us future problems when it comes to decisions.


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October 03, 2023, 03:59:14 PM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

From my point of view, if you are an experienced person then it is easy for you to set the right time. Because veterans and experimenters always benefit. If you hold a coin for a long period of time, you can sell that coin a few days after the bullrun starts.

Yes, I follow some rules, that is, when the price of the coin I hold increases a lot, I slowly sell that coin. Because if I want to sell 100% of the fund's coins at a high price, it is not possible to sell. It falls very quickly.
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October 03, 2023, 08:26:58 PM
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I believe this is still directed to the time of the bull run, and I'm sure that people would be affected by FOMO and some afterwards bearish threats which might make them panic and want to sell after some initial gains. It's easier said than done for many hodlers to wait for Bitcoin to effectuate the bull run completely. The reason is simple, it's due to the dynamism of the market mixed with its uncertainty. For this, people's emotions might be able to carry it and many would not want to lose the money they had already gained, it's until the time comes before you fully understand this, especially if you've not benefited from the initial bull run or inexperienced about trader's psychology in line with the market.

As for me, I would rather not say I will not sell at any time, I will only let my technical chart guide me.
FOMO is a natural condition that can affect those investors who entered the bull market and found after the price rise that, the market might correct and decline again, so they panic that the high price will not return again after huge sales and disposals. They are forced to sell to secure some small gains that are not worth the time of their long holding. This is often attributed to their lack of experience and control over their emotions, driven by anxiety, fear, and uncertainty, in addition to their failure to rely on charts and technical and analytical indicators and to adopt a fixed strategy and clear goals in their actions. For me, the excellent time to sell is when the price of the currency that I invested reaches the target specified for sale, which will ensure that I am able to recover my capital investment and generate good profits. However, greed makes many ignore good selling opportunities, Ideally, they could have sold gradually when the price pump to recover their initial capital and some profits while still retaining some exposure to potential gains in the future.

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October 08, 2023, 10:40:45 AM
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I think now is the time to buy, we can still get opportunities at cheap prices, to get big profits of course we have to be patient waiting for the halving day which will occur in about 5 months, many experts believe that when the halving day the price can reach at least $100k, it might sound difficult to happen when looking at the current conditions.


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October 08, 2023, 02:16:29 PM
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I think now is the time to buy, we can still get opportunities at cheap prices, to get big profits of course we have to be patient waiting for the halving day which will occur in about 5 months, many experts believe that when the halving day the price can reach at least $100k, it might sound difficult to happen when looking at the current conditions.

Yeah, there's no point in waiting for the next dips. If you believe that BTC will repeat the cycle and reach the new ATH, buying now is a good bet. It's better to make a little smaller profit than risk waiting for too long for a dip that might never happen.
I wouldn't even bother DCAing at this point.

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October 08, 2023, 05:01:45 PM
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I think now is the time to buy, we can still get opportunities at cheap prices, to get big profits of course we have to be patient waiting for the halving day which will occur in about 5 months, many experts believe that when the halving day the price can reach at least $100k, it might sound difficult to happen when looking at the current conditions.

That's right, if we look at how bitcoin conditions in the period of one month ago until now, the lowest price is still in the $25k area last month and now bitcoin is stagnant in the area or at $27k. It is very clear that this is a good price to buy, which a few months ago bitcoin was at $ 31k, both resistance in April and July were at the same point. I think this condition is enough to give us a clue that this is the right price to buy more before the halving phase arrives, don't wait for another decline because you might be too late and I think just by seeing the confirmation of the breakout from the previous resistance area when sideways it is enough to give us a signal to buy. I hope you or whoever it is don't waste this opportunity, look at the formation it's clear that the bullish phase is about to start.

If indeed you are very sure of some facts that have clearly occurred and also then indeed have prepared money to be allocated then my advice is to start now before you miss again, and you will be able to enjoy significant profits in the upcoming halving phase.

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I think now is the time to buy, we can still get opportunities at cheap prices, to get big profits of course we have to be patient waiting for the halving day which will occur in about 5 months, many experts believe that when the halving day the price can reach at least $100k, it might sound difficult to happen when looking at the current conditions.
Yeah, there's no point in waiting for the next dips. If you believe that BTC will repeat the cycle and reach the new ATH, buying now is a good bet. It's better to make a little smaller profit than risk waiting for too long for a dip that might never happen.
I wouldn't even bother DCAing at this point.
Waiting for a decline is the same as delaying making a profit, I feel that the decline will never happen, except for a return to $25K but I have little hope at that price but a recovery to $30K will be very possible, once again not a reference not to buy even when the price Still $40K, for example, I will continue to buy using the DCA method until the price is really high.

Yes, that's right, it's better for a little, because waiting for it to go down is already uncertain, and when the price goes up you don't buy then there's only regret, now don't think about our decline, it's not for the short term, so increase the price now as much as possible or by DCA is still a good method.

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October 08, 2023, 06:04:39 PM
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I think now is the time to buy, we can still get opportunities at cheap prices, to get big profits of course we have to be patient waiting for the halving day which will occur in about 5 months, many experts believe that when the halving day the price can reach at least $100k, it might sound difficult to happen when looking at the current conditions.
Yeah, there's no point in waiting for the next dips. If you believe that BTC will repeat the cycle and reach the new ATH, buying now is a good bet. It's better to make a little smaller profit than risk waiting for too long for a dip that might never happen.
I wouldn't even bother DCAing at this point.
Waiting for a decline is the same as delaying making a profit, I feel that the decline will never happen, except for a return to $25K but I have little hope at that price but a recovery to $30K will be very possible, once again not a reference not to buy even when the price Still $40K, for example, I will continue to buy using the DCA method until the price is really high.

Yes, that's right, it's better for a little, because waiting for it to go down is already uncertain, and when the price goes up you don't buy then there's only regret, now don't think about our decline, it's not for the short term, so increase the price now as much as possible or by DCA is still a good method.

The best option is to ignore the negative news in the market, apply the DCA method and wait. Bitcoin price may fall, but when it does, more can be purchased. If we believe Bitcoin's ATH, the current price is very cheap.

If the Bitcoin price falls, it will take a short time for the price to recover again. That's why I think buying at the current level and waiting or acting with the DCA method will pay off.
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Last edit: October 08, 2023, 08:12:17 PM by erep
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The best option is to ignore the negative news in the market, apply the DCA method and wait. Bitcoin price may fall, but when it does, more can be purchased. If we believe Bitcoin's ATH, the current price is very cheap.

If the Bitcoin price falls, it will take a short time for the price to recover again. That's why I think buying at the current level and waiting or acting with the DCA method will pay off.
We need to ignore negative news on the market so that we are not affected emotionally, but some investors take advantage of this negative news and have the opportunity to increase their investment using the DCA method at lower market prices. I will increase investments if market prices fall lower at annual lows for future investment portfolios.

The countdown to the halving period is getting closer and the price history after the halving can trigger an increase in market prices reaching ATH, we will not know future price predictions but I am very confident that the price history reaching ATH will definitely come true.

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October 09, 2023, 06:21:25 AM
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We are in the month of October and I do say that this season is the season we should all make good use of the DCA method because now is the best time to buy more Bitcoin and hold, since the price of Bitcoin is still at the same spot (like still at the same range).

Now is the best time to take advantage of Bitcoin as the long-waited run is about to near. Bitcoin's price might still drop lower or increase, but that doesn't mean we should be scared to buy when it's high. We should buy as much as we can and if Bitcoin's price increases, we should also buy a lot that we can afford. The $100k price might be interesting next year.

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October 09, 2023, 08:25:03 AM
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I think now is the time to buy, we can still get opportunities at cheap prices, to get big profits of course we have to be patient waiting for the halving day which will occur in about 5 months, many experts believe that when the halving day the price can reach at least $100k, it might sound difficult to happen when looking at the current conditions.

Bitcoin won't be $100,000 before or on the halving day, those individuals giving that prediction aren't expert, anybody can give a prediction but most of them aren't accurate because nobody can predict Bitcoin correctly. When we judge from history, Bitcoin will rise due to the increase in interest from investors as the halving day nears but for Bitcoin to get a new all time high, it has to be after the halving. This is what has been happening in previous bull market and this time wouldn't be different.

A good time to sell would be when Bitcoin reach a new all time high and the price starts falling, you can sell your Bitcoin and wait for the bear market to come before you buy again. Now isn't a good time to sell but a good time to buy so you can get cheap Bitcoin and hold for the bull market that's coming.

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October 09, 2023, 08:38:20 AM
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I think now is the time to buy, we can still get opportunities at cheap prices, to get big profits of course we have to be patient waiting for the halving day which will occur in about 5 months, many experts believe that when the halving day the price can reach at least $100k, it might sound difficult to happen when looking at the current conditions.

Bitcoin won't be $100,000 before or on the halving day, those individuals giving that prediction aren't expert, anybody can give a prediction but most of them aren't accurate because nobody can predict Bitcoin correctly. When we judge from history, Bitcoin will rise due to the increase in interest from investors as the halving day nears but for Bitcoin to get a new all time high, it has to be after the halving. This is what has been happening in previous bull market and this time wouldn't be different.

A good time to sell would be when Bitcoin reach a new all time high and the price starts falling, you can sell your Bitcoin and wait for the bear market to come before you buy again. Now isn't a good time to sell but a good time to buy so you can get cheap Bitcoin and hold for the bull market that's coming.

Bitcoin will start to increase in price and the real bull season usually takes place a few months or a year after the halving takes place, bull season will not take place immediately as many expected at the time of the halving.

But how do we know what bitcoin's all-time high price will be during the upcoming bull season? There is no way to know where bitcoin's bottom is, just as there is no way to determine bitcoin's all-time high. We should have a specific selling target rather than expecting a high price to sell because greed will stop us when the price increases.



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October 09, 2023, 09:12:18 AM
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I think now is the time to buy, we can still get opportunities at cheap prices, to get big profits of course we have to be patient waiting for the halving day which will occur in about 5 months, many experts believe that when the halving day the price can reach at least $100k, it might sound difficult to happen when looking at the current conditions.
Any time that bitcoin isn't surging continuously for weeks or days is a good time to buy because this time of bitcoin prices wavering between rise and dumps would be an opportunity in hindsight when bitcoin finally gets to a new ATH and there's also the possibility that when the new ATH will happen, bitcoin might increase it's price floor and this 27k USD won't be seen ever again. It's not difficult to see because we've seen bitcoin touch 70k last time so it's not that difficult to wrap your head around it.
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October 09, 2023, 01:26:52 PM
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I think now is the time to buy, we can still get opportunities at cheap prices, to get big profits of course we have to be patient waiting for the halving day which will occur in about 5 months, many experts believe that when the halving day the price can reach at least $100k, it might sound difficult to happen when looking at the current conditions.
Any time that bitcoin isn't surging continuously for weeks or days is a good time to buy because this time of bitcoin prices wavering between rise and dumps would be an opportunity in hindsight when bitcoin finally gets to a new ATH and there's also the possibility that when the new ATH will happen, bitcoin might increase it's price floor and this 27k USD won't be seen ever again. It's not difficult to see because we've seen bitcoin touch 70k last time so it's not that difficult to wrap your head around it.

Yes, but on the other hand we also have to see where the price of bitcoin is, and also by using some clear analysis to predict, if it is possible, or simply bitcoin is in the support phase with confirmation of several other indications then that is the right time to buy before finally going back up.

Buying when the price is cheap and selling when the price is at the highest resistance point according to your analysis is quite simple. Of course, over time, bitcoin will continue to run to reach a new ATH, and well the lowest price will most likely change, it will not always be at $27k, but higher than that. So the point is to take advantage of all the opportunities that come to you, look at it from various sides and if you are sure then you can start by implementing the planned targets.

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October 09, 2023, 03:27:15 PM
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I think now is the time to buy, we can still get opportunities at cheap prices, to get big profits of course we have to be patient waiting for the halving day which will occur in about 5 months, many experts believe that when the halving day the price can reach at least $100k, it might sound difficult to happen when looking at the current conditions.
Any time that bitcoin isn't surging continuously for weeks or days is a good time to buy because this time of bitcoin prices wavering between rise and dumps would be an opportunity in hindsight when bitcoin finally gets to a new ATH and there's also the possibility that when the new ATH will happen, bitcoin might increase it's price floor and this 27k USD won't be seen ever again. It's not difficult to see because we've seen bitcoin touch 70k last time so it's not that difficult to wrap your head around it.
When Bitcoin starts to fall and the price of Bitcoin is dumping for a few weeks, we think we can profit by buying here. But we can see a milestone that when the price of bitcoin fluctuates in a steady state for some time, it will be good for us if we buy and HODL. And if we invest from this dumping market, then definitely a good time is waiting for us when bitcoin marketing will grow. As the price of Bitcoin is above $27k right now, if we buy from here, we may get good amount of profit in the future. Also, when bitcoin market ATH starts, we will no longer see the price of bitcoin in the location from which we buy bitcoin. We have seen Bitcoin price peak in 2021 and touch $69k which was really interesting for that time. So we can expect that another bull is waiting for us ahead, and then we will see the price of BTC at $1M, and it will be confirmed.

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October 09, 2023, 04:40:48 PM
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Buying when the price is cheap and selling when the price is at the highest resistance point according to your analysis is quite simple. Of course, over time, bitcoin will continue to run to reach a new ATH, and well the lowest price will most likely change, it will not always be at $27k, but higher than that. So the point is to take advantage of all the opportunities that come to you, look at it from various sides and if you are sure then you can start by implementing the planned targets.
After all, you can sell BTC at the highest resistance level of our currently time and still face a sudden rise in price right after that, being unable to acquire the same portion of Bitcoin you had before with the profit made from the sale. I believe a good time to sell is when you can cashout more money than you put into your investment. The perfect opportunity is unreachable, as it consists in an unpredictable thin fraction of time, and therefore shouldn't be pursued by investors. Realistic and concrete goals must be set by investors, such as next ATH, next bull run or as soon as BTC reaches X value.

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October 09, 2023, 09:49:30 PM
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I think now is the time to buy, we can still get opportunities at cheap prices, to get big profits of course we have to be patient waiting for the halving day which will occur in about 5 months, many experts believe that when the halving day the price can reach at least $100k, it might sound difficult to happen when looking at the current conditions.
Any time that bitcoin isn't surging continuously for weeks or days is a good time to buy because this time of bitcoin prices wavering between rise and dumps would be an opportunity in hindsight when bitcoin finally gets to a new ATH and there's also the possibility that when the new ATH will happen, bitcoin might increase it's price floor and this 27k USD won't be seen ever again. It's not difficult to see because we've seen bitcoin touch 70k last time so it's not that difficult to wrap your head around it.

Yes, but on the other hand we also have to see where the price of bitcoin is, and also by using some clear analysis to predict, if it is possible, or simply bitcoin is in the support phase with confirmation of several other indications then that is the right time to buy before finally going back up.

Buying when the price is cheap and selling when the price is at the highest resistance point according to your analysis is quite simple. Of course, over time, bitcoin will continue to run to reach a new ATH, and well the lowest price will most likely change, it will not always be at $27k, but higher than that. So the point is to take advantage of all the opportunities that come to you, look at it from various sides and if you are sure then you can start by implementing the planned targets.
On traders who do really likes to deal up with the market on active manner then they would really be that risking up their positions whether selling on profit and buying when its low but the main question is, WHEN?.

Good time to sell would always pertain on the time that you would see that you had gained on your initial purchase price and sell it out on certain % on which you had set. Some doesnt really like on small gains
and this is why they would really be deciding on holding a little bit more longer for more profits but without even trying out to realize that if you are that active on selling and buying then profits is much more huge but
not all does have that kind of risk appetite and this is why they are really that deciding that they will really be that holding instead on dealing with the market actively.

Success on trading would really be that definitely be that depending on how well you do be able to handle yourself within this volatile market.Not all would really be that good nor capable enough on doing
so on which outcomes and results would really be that entirely be different to each other. This is why you should really be that wise on taking up decisions on which path you would really be taking
because not all would really be able to succeed and this is something that you should bare in mind.

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October 09, 2023, 10:21:37 PM
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Any time that bitcoin isn't surging continuously for weeks or days is a good time to buy because this time of bitcoin prices wavering between rise and dumps would be an opportunity in hindsight when bitcoin finally gets to a new ATH and there's also the possibility that when the new ATH will happen, bitcoin might increase it's price floor and this 27k USD won't be seen ever again. It's not difficult to see because we've seen bitcoin touch 70k last time so it's not that difficult to wrap your head around it.

I disagree with the first part of your post. "Not surging for weeks" alone is a crappy "buy" indicator. You wouldn't want to buy when prices are falling after reaching the peak of the cycle ("don't try to catch a falling knife" rule).
Even if the price seems like the bottom, you don't necessarily want to buy too soon before the next bull-run. Hodling 2-3 years means a lot of opportunity cost.

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October 10, 2023, 10:04:56 AM
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Buying when the price is cheap and selling when the price is at the highest resistance point according to your analysis is quite simple. Of course, over time, bitcoin will continue to run to reach a new ATH, and well the lowest price will most likely change, it will not always be at $27k, but higher than that. So the point is to take advantage of all the opportunities that come to you, look at it from various sides and if you are sure then you can start by implementing the planned targets.
After all, you can sell BTC at the highest resistance level of our currently time and still face a sudden rise in price right after that, being unable to acquire the same portion of Bitcoin you had before with the profit made from the sale. I believe a good time to sell is when you can cashout more money than you put into your investment. The perfect opportunity is unreachable, as it consists in an unpredictable thin fraction of time, and therefore shouldn't be pursued by investors. Realistic and concrete goals must be set by investors, such as next ATH, next bull run or as soon as BTC reaches X value.

It's always like that and that's our goal to be able to achieve a definite profit, buying at the lowest area according to your analysis and selling at the next few resistance points, and well I hope you will be able to see first from various sides, if there is some confirmation that indicates that the price will continue to rise then you can continue to hold and wait for it until a more perfect or profitable selling point is reached, but if you really don't want to take too much risk then some not too significant increases can be used to sell, the most important thing is that we must remain healthy investors by always taking profits even if they are small.

As you said the right time to sell is when you can reach a higher price than your previous purchase price in order to achieve profit, but I think it will not be that easy because the market will not always be in our favor. So therefore we have to really prepare a good plan especially to minimize the possibility of losses there and well the last thing I think planning is like a bridge for you to be able to achieve real profits and that's very important.

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October 10, 2023, 01:39:20 PM
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The best option is to ignore the negative news in the market, apply the DCA method and wait. Bitcoin price may fall, but when it does, more can be purchased. If we believe Bitcoin's ATH, the current price is very cheap.

If the Bitcoin price falls, it will take a short time for the price to recover again. That's why I think buying at the current level and waiting or acting with the DCA method will pay off.
They should be able to ignore negative news, but when they spend more time in the crypto space it's hard to ignore - some people use negative news to buy bitcoin regularly in these situations.

We already know, when bitcoin goes down - buy - HOLD sometimes they wait for it to get even cheaper.

There is nothing wrong at the current price level, there are always many who remind us to keep buying at all costs, I feel this advice has become common, let this become part of us to keep buying forever with the DCA method.

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October 10, 2023, 01:53:06 PM
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A simple question to those who are hoping to profit on the next Bitcoin bull-run:
How do you determine when is the good time to sell?
in other words: how would you know we've reached the peak?

Do you have a set "goal" price at which you'd be selling no matter what happens? Do you intend to sell incrementally as the price goes up? Or maybe when the price gradually drops (e.g. it goes down for X days in a row), indicating we're past the peak?

All of below is based on USA taxpayer and you do not need the money.

If you are 2x the investment no.

If you are 3x the investment maybe.

If you are 4x the investment yes.


If you put in 10,000 usd and could sell for 20,000 usd by the time you pay taxes of 28 % or more.

you would be down to 16,500 so no big deal not worth the sale.

If you put in 10,000 and could sell for 30,000 by the time taxes are paid you are at 23,000

which with todays inflation is meh.


If you put in 10,000 and could sell for 40,000  it means you could sell half get 16,500 be ahead and let the other half ride or

you could sell all and get about 29,500 after taxes which is about  3x your investment and it would have beaten inflation.

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Given how things are shaping up, it seems like there are two possible futures for Bitcoin in 2023-2025. Either the world enters a bad recession and everyone is selling assets like 2008 causing Bitcoin to enter a downward feedback loop with miners going bankrupt and the price collapsing at unseen rates, or we continue to see what we’ve always seen, the price rises significantly over the next 24 months, and Bitcoin continues it’s growth story. I personally think the odds are better we’ve got one last pump on the way.

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October 10, 2023, 06:52:57 PM
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Given how things are shaping up, it seems like there are two possible futures for Bitcoin in 2023-2025. Either the world enters a bad recession and everyone is selling assets like 2008 causing Bitcoin to enter a downward feedback loop with miners going bankrupt and the price collapsing at unseen rates, or we continue to see what we’ve always seen, the price rises significantly over the next 24 months, and Bitcoin continues it’s growth story. I personally think the odds are better we’ve got one last pump on the way.
People should at least having that time on trying to look about into these probabilities about recession on which it could really cause the entire market would really be having it crash or free fall and this is one of the risks involved when dealing up with this market and it isnt really just that limited to crypto but also in other markets as well or to those traditional ones on which means that there's no way on avoiding it.
This is why it would really be that advisable that you should really be that getting prepared on whatever things that might happen in the future because there's no one would really be able to know
on what would happen ahead.

This is why it would really be always better and wise on taking up profits as much as you could or as much as possible because we dont really know on whats next. Diversify on different income earning
kind of business or investment as much as possible whether physical or online as long it would be beneficial to us then this what really counts. Dont make yourself that having those regrets
and ending up on whining just because you didnt really make out such step or action while its still early.

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